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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665069 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Nov 08

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#430349 Mar 29, 2013
hojo wrote:
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A blessed Easter week of Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy Saturday and Easter Sunday to you and your family Clay!! I'll be going to the Cathedral for Stations of the Cross (today) Friday at 12:15. Will look for you, in case you happen to be there!
enjoy your pagan holidays.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#430350 Mar 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
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The Bible is indeed the Word of God, written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Human thought entwined with Divine insights created the Bible.
The Holy Catholic Church gathered, edited and compiled the Bible, otherwise you'd have no clue it existed.
Your interpretations of our Sacred Scripture is one of thousands. I'm sticking with the Church that created the Christian Bible when Jesus Christ never commanded them to do so. You can stick with the nomadic evolving world of sola scripture.
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The Holy Catholic Church gathered, edited and compiled the Bible, otherwise you'd have no clue it existed.

We would have the Bible if the Roman Catholic (apostate Church never existed...

as for me I credit the ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH FOR CANONIZING THE BIBLE.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS THE FIRST PROTESTANT CHURCH THAT BROUGHT ABOUT THE GREAT SCHISM...

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

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#430351 Mar 29, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>abortion, homosexual marriage, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia,JETHRO:i find if funny how the church is against things that will benefit man more than hurt them...abortion,the mother does not want the child,so it will be raised in a non-loving type environment,will the church take care of the child instead of having an abortion done? no...homosexual marriage,if two people care and love each other,and bring that love and happiness into each others lives,what's the big deal?they are consenting adults,not like the UN-consenting sex that has been going on in the church for most of the 2000 yrs. it's been around... embryonic stem cell research:all for it,we need to study and develop new ways to fight the diseases of today,in my case a new more effective less harmful way to beat cancer,and other diseases,they do need to figure out a better way to get the cells,hopefully from an umbilical cord.. euthanasia:i have no problem with this,if you read my post about how my friends wife died screaming in horrific pain,you would think twice about this also,if a person has no quality of life,"example" a brain-dead person who'll remain a vegetable the rest of his/her life,confined to a bed,causing the family emotional everyday pain to see there loved one in that condition,you call that a plan from a loving god?? and the financial burden gets so heavy a lot of families split up,cause one spouse blames the other,think back to how many times a couple divorces because of the loss of a child? it happens quite often... if you stop and think about things they are not as bad as they seem in a lot of cases...like i said why is the catholic church so against the advancement and betterment of life for man kind?
Very compassionate and intelligent post. I fully agree with you!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430352 Mar 29, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
You should know by now that great storms of passion are allowed to assail us whenever we have been indulging pride, self-adulation, high opinions of our own intellectual powers; or when we have pandered to the vicious pleasure of humbling others, intentionally. The medicine is simple: humility, a sincere humbling of self. This alone can bring relief: through meekness––harbinger of peace. Elder Marcaius
Did you just mention "Self"?

:o)

Good for you!

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430353 Mar 29, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
"Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ."
-St. Jerome
"Christ be with me, Christ within me, Christ behind me, Christ before me, Christ beside me, Christ to win me, Christ to comfort me and restore me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ in quiet, Christ in danger, Christ in hearts of all that love me, Christ in mouth of friend and stranger." -St. Patrick
Apart from the cross there is no other ladder by which we may get to heaven.- Saint Rose of Lima
Okay, then not following Jesus and all he taught is turning your back on him, as well.

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430354 Mar 29, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Hermeneutics Smutics"You should know by now that great storms of passion are allowed to assail us whenever we have been indulging pride, self-adulation, high opinions of our own intellectual powers; or when we have pandered to the vicious pleasure of humbling others, intentionally. The medicine is simple: humility, a sincere humbling of self. This alone can bring relief: through meekness––harbinger of peace. Elder Marcaius
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Wonderful word. We need to see it practiced on this board.
KM
As soon as you start believing what Jesus taught, you will be able to.
But from your past remarks, that doesn't look like it is going to happen, huh?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430355 Mar 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Who cares why he left the Catholic Church.
Who the Heck is David Riggs anyway?
Man Jethro, who put a quarter in you today? You're on a salivating rampage today!
The one 'history' of the CC post was filled with so many falsehoods I actually laughed out loud.
Today we celebrate the day the Catholic Church began, when Christ's side was pierced and blood poured out.
2,000 yrs later, people are still spreading lies and trying to bring down His Church. You can't win Jethro.
Throw in the towel and join or walk away like Mr. Riggs.
i expected someone would slam my post,these are actual true stories of people who were indoctrinated into the church because their family was catholic,they went they saw they did not agree with the false teachings of the church,they left and told their stories on why they left,why you getting so huffy for? because the truth hurts maybe? these are true corroborated stories,that are hard to deny since there are many and these people did not know each other yet they tell basically the same story as to why they left the church.

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430356 Mar 29, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>God to me is beyond anything I can imagine,H E, will do what He sees fit to do throughout this universe,and our lives.It is too big to deny as far as I am concerned!
This is good Pad, you being honest enough to admit, you have no idea what "God" can or cannot do. This is actually a first step one must take in order to really understand the message of Jesus.

But not accepting Jesus' full message, you will not be able to excel in seeking out the Light he puts forth.

Good post.

Thanks!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430357 Mar 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I belong to the CC. If it was a fraction of the 'horror' everyone says it is, i'd leave in a heartbeat. The fact is, people need to lie, fabricate, and blow up certain things to put down the Church. They need to ignore what the Church really teaches. Then, they need to insert their own slander in place of what the Church believes.
Hey - we are not the one who is disregarding past and present turmoil that was/is caused by the RCC.

But you seem to.....hmmmmm.....and then you write the following.....
Clay wrote:
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Honestly, my faith strengthens every time I come on this forum and read the propaganda based slander about the Catholic Church. It only makes sense that its the original true Church of Jesus Chris, because people reject and hate it, just like they did Jesus.
Many of ya are modern day Scribes and Pharisees- who bludgeoned Jesus with the 'word of God' and condemned Him to death. People on here do the same to His Church.
You are confused...or just find comfort in turning a blind eye to your church's history.

Yes Clay - keep feeding them your money to pay off the pedophiles, we understand.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430358 Mar 29, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>I understand your post here,and why you feel the way you do.This week a man we know at age of 40 died a horrible death,no details,and all are in shock,we are put in that sphere of just being in total blindness as to why he died the way he did,and so on.We went to the funeral,fortunately his mother,a close friend to my wife is holding her own.
Why I mention this,is that God shrouds in mystery with all humanity,but YET, H e reveals Himself to the simple of heart,and confounds the wise.
When we think we know,we are confounded by life and its strange happenings.The father of the man I mentioned died on the same day of the week Thursday,and same date 8 years prior to his son.Who can know how things seem to connect,even though they are terrible to deal with.
GOD, being in us is true as He is omnipresent and He shares of His presence with all the Universe,but He does not force His Will on our will,as humans do to each other.GOD,shows us that there is more to life than just what we see in our own limitation. You do not really know Jethro how often God may have given you insights to things that connected the dots as it were in your own life.
Dates and times often are indicators to what is going on in the spiritual realm verses the material world.
I do not say that G o d should reveal Himself to you from the time you were able to understand such things,but it is clear that He wants you to know Him.
You say we are taught these things,well,God(Father,SON, and Holy Spirit) are Three Persons in ONE God,and community,teaching,instruction and guidance are all the mechanics as it were of life to build up each and every person to the knowledge of the Truth.
Our fathers learned about life,who is given the wherewithall about living from their childhood,(ALL at once)? You were gradually shown everything you now know,over many years,through many mentors,teachers,instruction and so on.
BUT, jethro still you had to come to a personal knowlege of what is important to what you experienced in life,did it all come at once? Know this though that you learned sometimes gradually,and often abruptly.Since you have suffered cancer,you are learning fast,but even you will say(you are a work in progress).
God is there,but He will not reveal the magnitude of His PERSON,especially because we cannot handle it.(How many people have said?) "Is this all there is?" God wants them to know nevertheless that He is involved in every human life,in spite of the fact we do not see Him, or know He is working on our behalf.It is a mystery we all are amazed by.
God to me is beyond anything I can imagine,H E, will do what He sees fit to do throughout this universe,and our lives.It is too big to deny as far as I am concerned!
quote"God is there,but He will not reveal the magnitude of His PERSON,especially because we cannot handle it.unquote i could handle meeting him face to face,what is there to fear from a peaceful loving person/thing? everything I've learned in life was through people and watching them,and through trial an error on my part just like we learn everything in life,god will do what he sees fit,why would god give a two year old child a deadly disease that guarantees this poor thing will suffer in pain an agony and die with in a year? where is he now? the world his going down the tubes faster and faster each day,yet i see no god/Jesus/holy ghost interceding on mans behalf.is he just going to sit back and watch us destroy each other senselessly? from what i'm seeing that's exactly what he is doing if he truly exists.if god is connecting the dots in my life he missed a few,right now my life totally S&$KS. i blame no one but myself,we decide our own fate no one else does.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430359 Mar 29, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
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Very compassionate and intelligent post. I fully agree with you!
thank you,and hello sherlayne,hope your doing OK?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430360 Mar 29, 2013
be back shortly

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430361 Mar 29, 2013
before i go,catholics! answer this:If the Roman Catholic church gave the world the Bible, being infallible, then why did Rome reject or question the inspiration of James and Hebrews , then later accept it? Conversely, Rome accepted as scripture books that were later rejected. If the Catholic church really is illuminated by the Holy Spirit so that men can trust her as "God's organization", why was she so wrong about something so simple? Should not the "Holy See" have known?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430362 Mar 29, 2013
If the Roman Catholic church gave the world the Bible in 397 AD, then why did many different versions of canons continue to circulate long afterwards?
Clay

Garden City, MI

#430363 Mar 29, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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The Holy Catholic Church gathered, edited and compiled the Bible, otherwise you'd have no clue it existed.
We would have the Bible if the Roman Catholic (apostate Church never existed...
as for me I credit the ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH FOR CANONIZING THE BIBLE.
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS THE FIRST PROTESTANT CHURCH THAT BROUGHT ABOUT THE GREAT SCHISM...
You'd credit the church of Scientology before you would the Catholic Church! Hate and Jealously has blinded ya.
But yes, the Orthodox were there too. I don't know if you're aware that the Catholic and Orthodox were one Church at the time the Compilation of the NT happened at the Council of Hippo, IN ROME, in the 4th century?
As for the schism? They (Orthodox) left. Rome stayed put.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#430364 Mar 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Before any discussion begins about Christianity on this forum, it should be required that y'all watch Stars video link.
What came first? The Church or the Bible?
Sola Scripture is literally impossible to subscribe to. Its amazing you guys added this teaching to Jesus Christ's Ministry when He never preached, discussed or commanded such a theory. Sola Scripture is a doctrine of men. Its strange and relatively new.
On this Holy day called Good Friday, I pray you reflect and pray on where you stand on Jesus Christ.
Good Friday to you Clay!
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"In the Holy Bible, we read, "If I (St. Paul) am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth. Without any doubt, the mystery of our religion is great..." [1 Tim. 15-16]

In the aforementioned passage, two things stand out. Paul refers to:

i. The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth, and

ii. Our religion.

Most Protestants believe that the Bible is the pillar and foundation of the truth. They also believe that no knowledge outside of the Bible is necessary for salvation.

Such a belief, "Sola Scriptura," (meaning only need the Bible) cannot be found anywhere in the Bible. Not only that, they fall short of recognizing that Saint Paul was referring to "our religion, the Roman Catholic Church and its Rites, the only One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church that was instituted on earth by Jesus Christ.

The Protestant argument that the Bible is the pillar and bulwark of the truth does not make any sense for two reasons:

i) It was not until the fourth century that the Catholic Church completed its selection of the "canon of Scripture." The Bible could not be the pillar and bulwark of the truth prior to the fourth century because the Holy Bible did not exist.[NT]

ii) It was not until the 1600's that the first Bible was printed. Prior to those days, very few Bibles were available, such being hand written and owned by the Church and/or the rich, these being kept under lock and key. So the average person had no access to the Bible. He could not use the Bible as a reference to support that it was the pillar and bulwark of the truth. In fact, the people turned to the Church to learn the tradition, the doctrines, the teachings of the Catholic Church.

The truth is that it is only during the last four hundred years that the Protestants have made claim that the Bible is the pillar and bulwark of the truth. Prior to that, they could not make such a claim because they had no access to the Bible."

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430365 Mar 29, 2013
Jesus said to them,“Why are you troubled? Truly I say to you, all the priests who stand
before that altar invoke my name. Again I say to you, my name has been written on this
[…] of the generations of the stars through the human generations.[And they] have
planted trees without fruit, in my name, in a shameful manner.”

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/...

Where do you stand - before an altar that men have created, or before the altar of "God"?

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#430366 Mar 29, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>thank you,and hello sherlayne,hope your doing OK?
Hi sweetie, I don't get any good days at all any more, but heck, I'm not the only one. I sleep a lot. A nurse came to see me today, and I'll have her or some other nurse twice a week. I have a home health aide but I also need nursing care to monitor my sugar, blood pressure, etc.

I hope you're comfortable; I pray for you a lot (I may be a doubter, but I'm not an atheist, far from it). I sleep during the day a lot which is why I'm on here often during the wee hours. My husband has improved which makes me very happy! God be with you; you are very special to me!
guest

United States

#430367 Mar 29, 2013
guest wrote:
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Yes. Disgusting and shocking. and, marge, the point is scoring "political" points. he's doing this AND ALLOWING PICTURES to be taken - because they last longer ... to garner political points with the people of the world.
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http://niv.scripturetext.com/matthew/6.htm
Giving to the Needy
1 “Be careful NOT to PRACTICE your righteousness in front of others TO BE SEEN BY THEM. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Prayer
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
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Clay wrote:
Man, you're even further removed from Christianity than Marge!
I take no joy in the fact that you reaffirm my Catholic faith every time I converse with you. Not that I need affirmation. I'm just saying I can see the CC is the truth after spending 5 min with a fundie.
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I quoted SCRIPTURE.
I quoted Jesus Christ, himself.
So.
By Catholic standards, Christ's very teachings are not *Christian*.
By Catholic standards, Christ's very WORDS are not *Christian*.
The Catholic Church has TRIED to PREVAIL AGAINST the Scriptures and has failed - OVER AND OVER AGAIN - even as they say they are the "keepers" of God's Word.
The Church has failed because the WORD OF GOD is SHARPER than ANY TWO EDGED SWORD that the church, or anyone else, can wield.
and:
"Call No Man Father," by Catholic Standards, means they can go against the very words of Jesus Christ himself.
and that is just for starters.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#430368 Mar 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Before any discussion begins about Christianity on this forum, it should be required that y'all watch Stars video link.
What came first? The Church or the Bible?
Sola Scripture is literally impossible to subscribe to. Its amazing you guys added this teaching to Jesus Christ's Ministry when He never preached, discussed or commanded such a theory. Sola Scripture is a doctrine of men. Its strange and relatively new.
On this Holy day called Good Friday, I pray you reflect and pray on where you stand on Jesus Christ.
Posted to Clay 3/29/13
socci wrote:
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The new ager sounds pretty catholic to me.
Many Protestants are very joined with Rome about Christmas and Easter, but also Sunday worship. They dont even object to Rome any longer thus are called Evangelical. They are all in error about this. Besides those ecumenical practices there is also the doctrine of the immortal soul and eternal hell, ect. Most Protestants just 100 years ago understood this was romanism. Only since the Civil War and Scofield have Protestants been taken over and redirected in thought and doctrine. Most of the televangelists are deceivers.
Luther and Tyndale correctly rejected the belief that the dead go directly to heaven..
http://biblelight.net/luther-tyndale.htm
All new religions are a spin off, of a spin off, of The One True Church - Catholic.

If you belong to one of the religious organization, Pentecostal, Holiness, Jehovah’s Witnesses, SDA, etc, etc, your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men/women within the past hundred years.

Jesus said his Church would be "the light of the world." He then noted that "a city set on a hill cannot be hid" (Matt. 5:14). This means HIS Church is a visible organization. It must have characteristics that clearly identify it and that distinguish it from other churches. Jesus promised, "I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18). This means that his Church will never be destroyed and will never fall away from him. His Church will survive until his return.

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