Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jun 10

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#430051 Mar 27, 2013
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Tiger Lily wrote:
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You are speaking in error.
Can you not understand the simple logic here?
How am I blaspheming in pointing out that Jesus was not in Heaven on Good Friday? A simple error by whoever punctuated the Bible is what is disputed here.
How can you stubbornly continue in thinking Jesus met the thief in Heaven on Good Fridaywhen scripture clearly tells us He was on earth for another 40 days?
Is blasphemy worse than stupidity?
"A simple error by whoever punctuated the Bible is what is disputed here."

You have reaffirmed that you view the Word of God as being fallible.

I am willing to bet you refer to yourself as being a Christian (a follower of the teaching of Christ)

Since: Jun 10

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#430052 Mar 27, 2013
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Tiger Lily wrote:
Please, in fairness study...
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/Lazarus-byH...
It won't take you long and you may profit by being better informed.
As for me and my family, we will always follow the teaching of God's infallible, inspired, Word...the Bible..
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#430053 Mar 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Now you are saying the Bible is wrong ("I say unto you this day" is a common phrase used elswhere in scripture but this one time the punctuation was wrong).
When you present Scripture that you say shows the verses I quoted as being contradicting to what you present....you have been successful in proving the infallible Word of God as being the opposite...in other words, fallible.
You are also saying the dictionary is wrong!!! Quote: heaven: the abode of God, the angels, and the spirits of the righteous after death; the place or state of existence of the blessed after the mortal life.
You have the God given right to reject the truth in His Word, and also deny the correctness of the dictionary!!!!
If you cannot understand that Jesus was NOT in Paradise on the Good Friday, I assume it is willing ignorance and I cannot help you.

Who wrote that dictionary? Holy men inspired by God?
Who punctuated the Bible? Some guy as he rode on a donkey.

Who cannot figure out that Jesus was in the tomb until Sunday morning (the first day of the week)? He was NOT in Heaven for 40 days. SIMPLE BUT YOU CANNOT GRASP THE LOGIC!
socci

Cameron, MO

#430054 Mar 27, 2013

Washington's Pope: Pope Francis and the South American Dirty Wars

http://archive.org/details/WashingtonsPope

article & radio interview
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#430055 Mar 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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As for me and my family, we will always follow the teaching of God's infallible, inspired, Word...the Bible..
Me too. Everything I have quoted from is that Bible.
Yet you remain stubborn.
Jesus never went to Heaven for another 40 days after His Resurrection.

Can you tell me from scripture where it says Jesus went to Heaven at the moment He died?

Did it take a resurrection to allow Him an ascension?

Is that not the way we are to follow?

What about Judgement Day? When we all have been judged already?

What for? And why a resurrection if we are already in Heaven?

You don't have a logical or biblical response, do you?
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#430056 Mar 27, 2013
Rich man and Lazarus

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socci

Cameron, MO

#430057 Mar 27, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
Rich man and Lazarus

Steve Wohlberg explains about as good as any..

Jesus often told “parables” or stories that were symbolic of deeper truths. Although parables contain many practical lessons, not every item should be taken literally. Is this story a parable? We believe so.
Here are 7 reasons why:

1. Jesus often began His parables with the phrase, "a certain…" this or that. If you look up these verses in Luke’s gospel, you will discover that they are all parables. Thus it’s logical to assume the Rich Man and Lazarus story is also a parable.

2. A man cannot physically enter into "the bosom" or chest of another person as Christ described.

3. Can someone literally burning in flames carry on a normal conversation?

4. Can those in heaven and hell talk to each other?

5. Jesus represented the rich man as being bodily in hell, with eyes, a mouth, a tongue, etc. This is obviously symbolic. If you were to dig up a real rich man's grave, wouldn't his body be there? Of course!

6. A real burning man would not request a little water to cool his tongue alone. What about the rest of his body?

7. Consciousness at death contradicts the rest of the Bible.
www.whitehorsemedia.com/articles/...
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#430058 Mar 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
... You have reaffirmed that you view the Word of God as being fallible.
I am willing to bet you refer to yourself as being a Christian (a follower of the teaching of Christ)
I am a rational being. I do not take anything as truth blindly.
Which version of the Bible (and there are many) do you hold to be infallible?
The best Bible version I know of is the KJV but I know for a fact that other vesions are different.

Some have been blatantly added to or altered to reinforce some false doctrine held by the "translator".

How is it that I may not be a Christian if I understand differently from you even though it is not in ignorance?
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#430059 Mar 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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And: Isaac and Jacob are also in Heaven....either they went there upon dying, or the first resurrection has already occurred!!!!
Mt 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
SHALL indicates some time in the FUTURE.
The Kingdom of Heaven is our reward AFTER the resurrection.

John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
We have to be made immortal to never die. We put on immortality AFTER the resurrection.

This is what follows after a resurrection. After not before.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#430060 Mar 27, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Steve Wohlberg explains about as good as any..
Jesus often told “parables” or stories that were symbolic of deeper truths. Although parables contain many practical lessons, not every item should be taken literally. Is this story a parable? We believe so.
Here are 7 reasons why:
1. Jesus often began His parables with the phrase, "a certain…" this or that. If you look up these verses in Luke’s gospel, you will discover that they are all parables. Thus it’s logical to assume the Rich Man and Lazarus story is also a parable.
2. A man cannot physically enter into "the bosom" or chest of another person as Christ described.
3. Can someone literally burning in flames carry on a normal conversation?
4. Can those in heaven and hell talk to each other?
5. Jesus represented the rich man as being bodily in hell, with eyes, a mouth, a tongue, etc. This is obviously symbolic. If you were to dig up a real rich man's grave, wouldn't his body be there? Of course!
6. A real burning man would not request a little water to cool his tongue alone. What about the rest of his body?
7. Consciousness at death contradicts the rest of the Bible.
www.whitehorsemedia.com/articles/...
Thank you socci. Steve Wohlberg is a favourite pastor of mine. He has a television ministry which goes worldwide.

I just wish people would watch his videos so they can understand the truth.
I tire of insults such as I bet you call yourself a Christian and I am blaspheming when I say Jesus was not in Heaven on Good Friday.

Father forgive their unbelief.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430061 Mar 27, 2013
socci wrote:
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Anger is a trait of justice. You do understand justice? Justice is not murder. Why do you defend the satanists?
Please define "satanist".

Please post your support for this definition and how it applies to whomever you are referring to.

I just want to make sure I understand your argument, before I argue against it.

Yes, against it, because your use of this word (satanists) is IMO, incorrect, although it does sound to me like you are judging others by calling these other people this name. To me, that says you are powerful and am "like God" because you have the authority to judge others. I don't believe you are capable of this, but you seem to find comfort posting it.

Live in love - you'll be a better person for it.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430062 Mar 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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"2. Why can't you understand that Jesus was not in Heaven for at least another 40 days after Good Friday. He was seen on earth with friends. He appeared in the upper room. He performed miracles. All the while the thief was waiting."
"all the while the thief was waiting" clearly says Christ was lying when He said "Lu 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."
That is very very close to committing the one unforgivable sin...blasphemy...
I disagree.

Even Jesus disagrees with you.

(44) Jesus says:

(1) "Whoever blasphemes against the Father, it will be forgiven him.
(2) And whoever blasphemes against the Son, it will be forgiven him.
(3) But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither on earth nor in heaven."
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm

Why do you try to instill fear unto others with false teachings?
Clay

Jersey City, NJ

#430063 Mar 27, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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If you cannot understand that Jesus was NOT in Paradise on the Good Friday, I assume it is willing ignorance and I cannot help you.
Who wrote that dictionary? Holy men inspired by God?
Who punctuated the Bible? Some guy as he rode on a donkey.
Who cannot figure out that Jesus was in the tomb until Sunday morning (the first day of the week)? He was NOT in Heaven for 40 days. SIMPLE BUT YOU CANNOT GRASP THE LOGIC!
Do you not believe in the Holy Trinity?

If Jesus and God are one being with the Spirit, then Christ would have been present in Spirit in Heaven on Good Friday.
then it would be valid to say the theif went with Christ to Heaven.

On a side note: you are off the charts cultist. I pray for you and beg you to leave the Bible alone. It belongs to the Church that established it. You're not an authority to be dictating Christianity man..

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430064 Mar 27, 2013
Disciple wrote:
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Where did you read that he killed innocent people?
The question you should be asking is:

Do I believe that "God" had a direct hand in the result when the people of the OT went to war and killed whole villages and their villagers?[for the spoils, no doubt]

If you believe that "God" did guide these hands

Then "He" is an accomplice to murder - against "His" own commandment.

--OR--

You can refer to men had free will then, as we do now, thus "God" had stepped back from the game, but still watched how others praised "Him" when they succeeded in killing hundreds or thousands of innocent people.

--OR--

You can look at these paradoxes and view that "God" really hasn't any control over anyone in this plane of existence. Therefore, men have killed innocent men, and "God" allowed it to occur, because "God" cannot access this domain.
- more than common is the response that I have rcvd from so-called "Christians" when I've given this statement to them. They like to lean on, "that is because Satan rules this world".
+ which actually collapses their omnipotence theory and their "God has a plan for everything" theory. Because, if "Satan" is in control, "God" either knows about it and allows it to happen, or "God" likes to have "Satan" in control of "His children", because he doesn't care or can't access them.

Do you think "God" has killed innocent people?
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#430065 Mar 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Do you not believe in the Holy Trinity?
If Jesus and God are one being with the Spirit, then Christ would have been present in Spirit in Heaven on Good Friday.
then it would be valid to say the thief went with Christ to Heaven.
On a side note: you are off the charts cultist. I pray for you and beg you to leave the Bible alone. It belongs to the Church that established it. You're not an authority to be dictating Christianity man..
I believe in God the Father, Jesus, God's only begotten Son and the Holy Spirit.

Jesus prayed to God and that would be senseless if they were one and the same.
Clay we know you are in the world's biggest cult so don't accuse me of anything you know nothing of.
The Bible is not yours. No "church" established it.
I am not dictating, I merely point out gross error with scriptutre and logic.

You ignore the reasoning entirely that Jesus was in the tomb until Sunday morning and NOT IN HEAVEN with the thief.

I SUSPECT YOU ARE UNABLE TO GRASP THAT SO STOP YOUR ARROGANCE NOW!
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#430066 Mar 27, 2013
Clay, if you can take a moment, see...
http://www.allabouttruth.org/Who-Wrote-The-Bi...

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#430068 Mar 27, 2013
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Tiger Lily wrote:
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If you cannot understand that Jesus was NOT in Paradise on the Good Friday, I assume it is willing ignorance and I cannot help you.
Who wrote that dictionary? Holy men inspired by God?
Who punctuated the Bible? Some guy as he rode on a donkey.
Who cannot figure out that Jesus was in the tomb until Sunday morning (the first day of the week)? He was NOT in Heaven for 40 days. SIMPLE BUT YOU CANNOT GRASP THE LOGIC!
You have the God given right to view the Bible as being fallible. That is the only way you can support your erroneous beliefs.

You reject the truth in His Word, and also deny the correctness of the dictionary!!!!

Since: Jun 10

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#430069 Mar 27, 2013
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Tiger Lily wrote:
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Me too. Everything I have quoted from is that Bible.
Yet you remain stubborn.
Jesus never went to Heaven for another 40 days after His Resurrection.
Can you tell me from scripture where it says Jesus went to Heaven at the moment He died?
Did it take a resurrection to allow Him an ascension?
Is that not the way we are to follow?
What about Judgement Day? When we all have been judged already?
What for? And why a resurrection if we are already in Heaven?
You don't have a logical or biblical response, do you?
Your "me to" is totally wrong....Your previous words prove it. You do not see the Bible as being infallible...you can't do so and support our erroneous beliefs.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#430070 Mar 27, 2013
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Tiger Lily wrote:
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I am a rational being. I do not take anything as truth blindly.
Which version of the Bible (and there are many) do you hold to be infallible?
The best Bible version I know of is the KJV but I know for a fact that other vesions are different.
Some have been blatantly added to or altered to reinforce some false doctrine held by the "translator".
How is it that I may not be a Christian if I understand differently from you even though it is not in ignorance?
I have never known a Christian who views the Sacred Word of God as being wrong...fallible..that is not the views expressed by any one who follows the teaching of Jesus..
marge

Ames, IA

#430071 Mar 27, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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I believe in God the Father, Jesus, God's only begotten Son and the Holy Spirit.
Jesus prayed to God and that would be senseless if they were one and the same.
Clay we know you are in the world's biggest cult so don't accuse me of anything you know nothing of.
The Bible is not yours. No "church" established it.
I am not dictating, I merely point out gross error with scriptutre and logic.
You ignore the reasoning entirely that Jesus was in the tomb until Sunday morning and NOT IN HEAVEN with the thief.
I SUSPECT YOU ARE UNABLE TO GRASP THAT SO STOP YOUR ARROGANCE NOW!
Once believers are 'in Jesus', they remain there forever, the Bible says the believers that die are asleep in Jesus.

On the Last Day, we get our new bodies and go to Heaven, those who have died and those alive at that time, at the same time we go to Heaven.

I love you too T.

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