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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 596218 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

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#429805 Mar 26, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Good....because you nor any man has the capacity to understand them.
But know this - I'll be watching your posts, just to see if you test that ground.
Excuse me, but what makes you judge?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429806 Mar 26, 2013
hojo wrote:
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NOWHERE--and I/we as Catholics "never claim" that every word must be in the bible in order for it to be true. It is "YOU FUNDIES" that claim (everything) MUST BE IN THE BIBLE---or it is NOT true!!
Show us Catholics, "where it says---in the bible" (BOOK, CHAPTER AND VERSE) that every word, every sentence, every phrase, MUST be in the bible in order for it to be true. Furthermore--show us Catholics, in the bible (book chapter and verse) that God chose to transmit His divine, infallible word ONLY IN THE BIBLE!!-----NOWHERE!!!---and why???
I agree hojo, Catholics don't have "the fullness of Jesus Christ".

Thanks for proving my points.

Since: Jun 10

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#429807 Mar 26, 2013
794
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Good....because you nor any man has the capacity to understand them.
But know this - I'll be watching your posts, just to see if you test that ground.
I will need a copy of your Code Book to communicate with you!!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429808 Mar 26, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Unfortunately, most stories are like you pointed out. They were engaged in reading something brilliant about scripture, once they realized it was Catholic, they threw it away. That about sums up this forum.
I can see this is the same dilemma that Catholics have to live with too.

They see that Jesus has not been fully revealed thru the Bible, so they throw out any and all texts that are about him that are non-canonical.

Yep - Catholics are the same as the other so-called "Christians" - they too have thrown out the baby with the bathwater.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#429809 Mar 26, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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If we love God, we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS but when we fail WE HAVE GRACE.
There does that make it plain?
Or is that too hard for you?
Isn't it great to know when we fall from God's Grace, we fall into His Mercy.
His Mercy and Grace endureth forever.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#429810 Mar 26, 2013
.....The editing and formation of the Bible came from members of the early Christian Church. Since the fathers of the Church possessed the scriptoria and determined what would appear in the Bible, there occurred plenty of opportunity and motive to change, modify, or create texts that might bolster the position of the Church or the members of the Church themselves.

If high ranking members of the CATHOLIC church today can lie, deceive, deny, and coverup the biggest sexual abuse scandal in the churches history, what kind of catholic leaders were pulling all the strings and manipulating back in 325 AD?

They are not to be trusted!

BUSTED!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429811 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
Psalm 14:1 (KJV)
The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good.

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
A "fool" would only repeat that passage for his own comfort and not through honesty.
Oxbow wrote:
793
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If I had any idea what you are trying to articulate, I would respond...
Of course you don't, because you can only see discourse and emptiness when you read other posts that don't fall within your comfort zone.

Unfortunately, this is a poor characteristic that you possess.

A. Men have designated others as "fools" without affording those individuals their say or verifying that what was implied as "foolish" is accurate. You, like others, just come right out and assume this stance because of your arrogance and ignorance towards those other individuals and those other beliefs.
- Pride will be you undoing.
- Honesty will show that you are inaccurate.

marge

Ames, IA

#429812 Mar 26, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You're right DS. Once they saw "Saint Ignatius Press" on the back, they squirmed in their seat and put the ear muffs on. I mentioned one occasions just before he converted where this particular group all converted as a result of extensive study with an open mind. Unfortunately, most stories are like you pointed out. They were engaged in reading something brilliant about scripture, once they realized it was Catholic, they threw it away. That about sums up this forum.
Clay would you please stop lying about us. We agree with many things your catholic priests have wrote that agree with Scripture.

And when we disagree, it's because what they wrote did not agree with Scripture.
jesus christ blows me

Kingston, PA

#429813 Mar 26, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I get the impression you're going to believe what you want to believe no matter what.
But for the record: Christ died on a Friday and rose on Sunday. This has nothing to do with Pagan Sun gods or the Roman Empire.
Saturday----from Saturn's day.

Sunday....from Sun, as in sky, day.

Friday probably some PAGAN day too.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#429814 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
792
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You first said: He died to provide us miraculous divine grace to empower us to keep the law.
That is saying that once so empowered we keep the law. To keep the law means we don't sin.
Now you say: If we love God, we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS but when we fail WE HAVE GRACE.
This means, because we love God, not because we are empowered to keep the law, we keep His Commandments, which means we don't sin. To fail in keeping His Commandments is to sin.
And all this time I have believed that when we sin, confess and repent, we got forgiveness!!!! Now I know that is not so...we get grace!!!
Thanks for your guidance!!!!!
I did not exclude prayer, repentance and asking for forgiveness.
It is a means of obtaining grace.

Hebrews 10:26.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins...
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#429815 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
794
<quoted text>
I will need a copy of your Code Book to communicate with you!!!
HAHA, I agree.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#429816 Mar 26, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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There is nothing to repent.
Unless you are encouraging me to rebuke Jesus?
If so, then you aren't anyone I should be discussing this with and you really don't know what you are talking about.
FYI - being born again is not a theoretical concept or an analogy of any kind; it's an actual event, a regeneration of one's spirit/nature that happens 'when we put our trust in Jesus'(aka repent of trusting our own understanding and works of righteousness)

i didn't understand or give a lick about spiritual things until the day i was changed instantaneously many years ago:)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429817 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
731
I am not talking about God's capabilities!!!!

New Age wrote:
Good....because you nor any man has the capacity to understand them.

But know this - I'll be watching your posts, just to see if you test that ground.
Sherlayne wrote:
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Excuse me, but what makes you judge?
Hi Sherlayne.

I'm not a judge. I'm just a person with a point of view. You didn't like my wisdom?

It's okay, like you, I also don't understand all the wisdom that is presented to me, but it doesn't cause me to stop and not do anythign concerning it. I'll go check it out and see if it is viable.

Just like I posted above - "I'll be watching your posts, just to see if you test that ground". This basically means that I as a subscriber to this forum, will call out anyone who thinks they "do know what God's capabilities are".

I hate it when people openly lie about what tehy think they know and what they ACTUALLY know.

Soooo...back to your post...."what makes you judge?"

Your question has no bearing on my post. Would you like to rephrase it? Add some clarity to it? Explain what you are suggesting to better express your point.

Thanks!
Clay

United States

#429818 Mar 26, 2013
marge wrote:
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Clay would you please stop lying about us. We agree with many things your catholic priests have wrote that agree with Scripture.
And when we disagree, it's because what they wrote did not agree with Scripture.
So you guys got together and determined a universal agreement on sacred scripture??

you're a sweet lady, but what you determine is 'authentic scriptural teaching' is irrelevant as you're no authority on the Bible.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429820 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
794
<quoted text>
I will need a copy of your Code Book to communicate with you!!!
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429821 Mar 26, 2013
jesus christ blows me wrote:
<quoted text>Friday probably some PAGAN day too.
Nah - some guy came up with this one after smoking a blunt right before he decided to name Saturday and Sunday as "the weekend".

:o)

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#429822 Mar 26, 2013
811
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Oxbow wrote:
Psalm 14:1 (KJV)
The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good.
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
A "fool" would only repeat that passage for his own comfort and not through honesty.
<quoted text>
Of course you don't, because you can only see discourse and emptiness when you read other posts that don't fall within your comfort zone.
Unfortunately, this is a poor characteristic that you possess.
A. Men have designated others as "fools" without affording those individuals their say or verifying that what was implied as "foolish" is accurate. You, like others, just come right out and assume this stance because of your arrogance and ignorance towards those other individuals and those other beliefs.
- Pride will be you undoing.
- Honesty will show that you are inaccurate.
I await a copy of your Code Book....

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429823 Mar 26, 2013
LTM wrote:
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HAHA, I agree.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html

There ya go.

Please be very studious.
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429824 Mar 26, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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.......We can be certain that the first Catholic apologists and Fathers of the Church, who lived very close to the time of the Apostles, were fully aware of the dates associated with the birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
....Michael says...... it was what 180 AD before Ireneous first received the gospels long after all the apostles had died. The first 2 centuries christian groups never believed in a human Jesus but a spirit only. They had no dates of birth because they didn't claim he ever existed in human form.
....One hundred and fifty years after the time for Jesus' death we find the first mention of a gospel in an Apostle's name. That to me is simply amazing. Up to now we have analyzed every important early Christian Father and we saw without a doubt that all references to "sayings" or "passages" construed as coming from a possible existing gospel in their day was nothing more than "remembering" of an oral tradition. Each account showed that any and all references to anything even remotely similar to passages in our New Testaments today comes from memory of an circulating oral tradition and nothing more!
...... No other Pope, Bishop or Father (until Irenaeus), for nearly a century after "Pope Clement," ever mentions or quotes a Gospel, or names Matthew, Mark, Luke or John. So for a century and a half-until the books bobbed up in the hands (out of nowhere!) of Bishop St. Irenaeus and were tagged as "Gospels according to" this or that Apostle, there exists not a word of them in all the tiresome tomes of the Fathers. It is humanly and divinely impossible that the "Apostolic authorship" and hence "canonicity" or divine inspiration of these Sacred Four should have remained, for a century and a half, unknown and unsuspected by every Church, Father, Pope and Bishop of Christendom-if existent.
BUSTED!
Oh my!! Dust Storm's history does not jive with yours either.

Dust Storm wrote (exact words)... "We can be certain that the first Catholic apologists and Fathers of the Church, who lived very close to the time of the Apostles, were fully aware of the dates associated with the birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ."

Yet Dust Storm calls me "ignorant" -- and in the process former Pope Benedict "ignorant" as well -- because I sited the former Pope's book as evidence against Dust Storm's claim.

In summary according to Dust Storm....

Wise = Dust Storm, man of certainty.

Ignorant = former Pope Benedict, Michael, and Free Mind

Dust Storm, please forgive us, but why throw your old Pope under the bus?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429825 Mar 26, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI - being born again is not a theoretical concept or an analogy of any kind; it's an actual event, a regeneration of one's spirit/nature that happens 'when we put our trust in Jesus'(aka repent of trusting our own understanding and works of righteousness)
i didn't understand or give a lick about spiritual things until the day i was changed instantaneously many years ago:)
So why don't you believe the non-canonical Jesus, that is if you "trust in Jesus".

You are, more accurately posting, that you only accept a portion of Jesus - that which men have decided upon....not yourSelf.

You are contradicting yourSelf.

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