Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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truth

Perth, Australia

#429088 Mar 21, 2013
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

i call your digital..naprdivanje..its predict and produce old ordinary language into as you think modern way.
Even if you split verbal words still you have every my words correct.
n s pr 4;9
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
truth

Perth, Australia

#429089 Mar 21, 2013
eh your calculation..
please explain fully i will except you deeply with my heart but you are not correct..who sustain life in this condition..who destroy perfection and why..who keep us not going further..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#429090 Mar 21, 2013
Peek-a-Boo...lol...Just popped in to say hope you all have a Blessed Easter!!....God Bless You All!!
Clay

United States

#429091 Mar 21, 2013
socci wrote:
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The 'stupid' is the one who doesnt know their Bible, and looks to other text - doctrines of men - You.
Other texts are only good for historic reference, not to found a Church or any Christian doctrine.
This is how the Jewish Talmud began - with the rabbis claiming they had oral traditions directly from Moses. They claimed to sit on the 'seat of Moses' creating many laws not in the written word of God. English 'Seat' is the Greek "kathedras".
Jesus chastises the Pharisees for following doctrines of men..
Mt 23:2 "Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:"
English 'seat'= Greek kathedras.
Jewish pharisees Talmud based on oral tradition same as Catholic phariseessss..
http://youtu.be/4Nf9uTJ14VI
It matters. Rome claims Peter went to Rome and founded the Church. Peter never went to Rome. Paul writes in the book of Romans and does not mention Peter as being there; in the first chapter
1:11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end all of you may be established;
15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Spirit.
Then in chapter 16 Paul never mentions Peter being in Rome. And we cannot add to scripture what is not there.
You can have a bishop of Rome but its not biblical.
There are many other reasons to believe Peter never went to Rome and that Simon Magus was the actual founder of the pagan Roman Church..
www.youtube.com/playlist...
tell me, where did the Bible come from and how do you know the Books that are in it...belong in it?

This is important because you're using those Books to usurp the Church for supposedly not going by it.

The Church never said 'Peter was in Rome because its in the Bible'.
So whatever verses you slice and dice and zig and zag to prove Peter was never in Rome is stupid. The Bible simply does not say he was in Rome and does not say he wasn't. The fact is, it doesn't matter if he was or was not.
Sorry I called YOU stupid, I should have said your logic is stupid.
I don't think I'm interested in talkin with you, Soc. You need to seriously look in the mirror and lose this silly 911 conspiracy UFO Christianity. Its gotta be incredibly insulting to Jesus Christ to be that way.
truth

Perth, Australia

#429092 Mar 21, 2013
You liked be bigger then God..this is problem with you..i am not..but its not good say stupid to others..you never know why i say this to you.
Clay

United States

#429093 Mar 21, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
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Does Guest believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old?
That's an interesting question not discussed a whole lot on here.
I'm guessing they have to believe the Earth is 5,000 or 10,000 yrs old to subscribe to sola scriptura. If they believe its millions of yrs old, then their going against the Bible! wow, what a pickle.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#429094 Mar 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
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tell me, where did the Bible come from and how do you know the Books that are in it...belong in it?
This is important because you're using those Books to usurp the Church for supposedly not going by it.
The Church never said 'Peter was in Rome because its in the Bible'.
So whatever verses you slice and dice and zig and zag to prove Peter was never in Rome is stupid. The Bible simply does not say he was in Rome and does not say he wasn't. The fact is, it doesn't matter if he was or was not.
Sorry I called YOU stupid, I should have said your logic is stupid.
I don't think I'm interested in talkin with you, Soc. You need to seriously look in the mirror and lose this silly 911 conspiracy UFO Christianity. Its gotta be incredibly insulting to Jesus Christ to be that way.
http://www.catholic-legate.com/Apologetics/Th...

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a87.htm
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#429095 Mar 21, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
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2000 years of supposed "perfection" combined with the Information Age leaves the RCC in a pickle -- especially under the board's
Not perfection---but "verifiable" TRUTH!...... TRUTH of doctrine, TRUTH of Church History and TRUTH of biblical interpretation,---- ALL which have "escaped" your half-truth, half-heresy (bible only) Protestant 42,000 contradicting, inconsistent and confused denominations....... No Catholic believes your sola scriptura National Inquirer opinionated "editorial (gossip)" which is the "entire basis" of holding your Protestant beliefs together....... We as Catholics will (continue to) remain with the TRUTH of the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible and the TRUTH of over 2000 years of TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY with Daily Mass and the Eucharist!!--You can believe what you want! It makes "no difference" to ANY of us Catholics who know the TRUTH!!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#429096 Mar 21, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry Michael, but you are still, "off base" as usual. I never said, nor ever claimed that the Catholic Church is "superior" jethro: you may not have said it,but the catholic church/pope has,they consider other churches inferior because they do not recognize the papacy/papal chair.so mikey is right in a way.
NONE of us Catholics, EVER claimed "superiority" and the other Churches inferior, just because we have the papacy and a pope (as the successor of St Peter) who speaks (THE TRUTH) for the Catholic Church, for TRUE biblical interpretation and for over 1 billion Catholics Christians throughout the world.... BESIDES---, each of you Protestants have "your own individual" 42,000 bible only Popes, of whom EACH speak in "contradiction, inconsistencies and "conflicting self-interpretations of the bible,(IN DISAGREEMENT WITH EACH OTHER), as the successors to Martin Luther, who started this entire chaos of"hodge-podged" denominations and half-truth, half-heresy Christianity!!! Been there and have done that "distorted confusion" for over 35 years!! IT IS ALL YOURS!!! YOU CAN HAVE IT!!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#429097 Mar 21, 2013
guest wrote:
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Which statement is 100% TRUE:
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Jesus said, "Call No Man Father."
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or:
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Jesus said, "Call Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, and Pope Father."
You have had this explained to you "fundies" over and over again
(many times), by Regina so here is in again!

A.
Catholics call their priests "Father" because in

all matters pertaining to Christ's holy faith they

perform the duties of a father, representing God.

The priest is the agent of the Christian's

supernatural birth and sustenance in the world.

"Father" is a title which does not conflict in the

slightest with Matthew 23:9. Christ forbids the

Christian to acknowledge any fatherhood which

conflicts with the Fatherhood of God – just as He

commands the Christian to "hate" his father,

mother, wife, and his own life, insofar as these

conflict with the following of Christ.(Luke

14:26). But Christ does not forbid Christians to

call His own representatives by the name of

"Father." Catholic priests share in the

priesthood of Jesus Christ (not a human

priesthood), and their sacred ministry partakes of

the Fatherhood of God. Like St. Paul (himself a

Catholic priest), every Catholic priest can refer

to the souls he has spiritually begotten as his

children in Christ.(1 Cor. 4:14). St. Paul

considered himself to be the spiritual father, in

Christ, of the Corinthians: "For if you have ten

thousand instructors in Christ, yet not many

fathers. For in Christ Jesus, by the gospel, I

have begotten you." (I Cor. 4:15). The title of

"Father" is entirely proper for an ordained priest

of Jesus Christ.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#429098 Mar 21, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text> jethro:you say this because you can not truthfully answer my questions,because what i said was the truth,and you have no defense for the vile actions of the church,your true historians are catholics naturally they are going to spout history that favors the church,there not going to talk about the evil deeds of the church which are well documented....thank you for proving me correct.
No!! I say this because I am "not going to waste my time" discussing bible interpretation, Church History or ANY Catholic Church doctrine with bible only Protestants, atheists or agnostics that have a "pre-determined anti-catholic agenda". You go "look up (THE TRUTH) of TRUE CHURCH HISTORY and TRUE BIBLE INTERPRETATION "yourself"!!! Like I told you before--read the encyclicals, read the Catholic Catechism, read the biographical lives of the Saints, read the Apologist historian authors and writers (both Catholic and Protestant) and read TRUE CHURCH HISTORY of which you can find over 239 volumes that disprove everything you claim is true. HOWEVER--I/we as Catholics "all know that you won't read ANY of what I suggested to you"----because ---you would rather live in your "isolated world" of anti-catholic, vengeance, hostility and heresy, in which your "personal (editorialized) opinion" is--the final authority!!!!
marge

Ames, IA

#429099 Mar 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
No!! I say this because I am "not going to waste my time" discussing bible interpretation, Church History or ANY Catholic Church doctrine with bible only Protestants, atheists or agnostics that have a "pre-determined anti-catholic agenda". You go "look up (THE TRUTH) of TRUE CHURCH HISTORY and TRUE BIBLE INTERPRETATION "yourself"!!! Like I told you before--read the encyclicals, read the Catholic Catechism, read the biographical lives of the Saints, read the Apologist historian authors and writers (both Catholic and Protestant) and read TRUE CHURCH HISTORY of which you can find over 239 volumes that disprove everything you claim is true. HOWEVER--I/we as Catholics "all know that you won't read ANY of what I suggested to you"----because ---you would rather live in your "isolated world" of anti-catholic, vengeance, hostility and heresy, in which your "personal (editorialized) opinion" is--the final authority!!!!
hey Hojo just so you know we have a ,true church agenda, not a anti-catholic agenda, blessings!
guest

United States

#429100 Mar 21, 2013
guest wrote:
Once AGAIN: the Apostles never taught it ... because JESUS HIMSELF DID and THEY ALL got it the first time! They didn't need to elaborate on the simple, straightforward command of Christ.
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Jesus COULD NOT HAVE MADE IT SIMPLER!
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"Call No Man Father."
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Absolutely, marge!
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SATAN hates the truth and twists even the very words of Christ all out of recognition - Catholics believe the OPPOSITE of what Christ taught. Therefore, they believe EXACTLY what Satan taught.
Clay wrote:
wow. ok guest. you're going 'all in' with that.. just keep in mind if you're taking Our Lords words to mean something He did not intend it to be, it ain't gonna be good.
At least if I'm wrong, I can plead to God that I listened to the Church that told us those words were Biblical. So obviously I would accept their interpretations, rather than take it upon myself to form my own Christianity. I mean, the Bible didn't come labeled 'word of God' for us...
You seem to accept the authority of the Catholic Church that declared those words Biblical, then you reverse the meanings to use against the Church upon which they came!
So please don't tell me how 'Satan twists the truth'.
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Clay: "At least if I'm wrong, I can PLEAD to GOD that I LISTENED to the CHURCH ..."
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*if* you are wrong you can plead that the *Church* lied to you?
and the people on the topix board told you the TRUTH and quoted to you the direct words of Christ himself and STILL you refused to believe the DIRECT COMMAND OF CHRIST HIMSELF?
instead you chose to believe the CHURCH that ordered murders and torture?
the CHURCH that covered up for pedophiles?
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Here's what Jesus has to say about those kinds of *leaders*, Clay, it's right there in Matthew 23 - shortly after he commands us to "call no man father..."
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http://niv.scripturetext.com/matthew/23.htm

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, YOU MAKE THEM TWICE AS MUCH A CHILD OF HELL AS YOU ARE."
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You know Clay, you say the Bible didn't come *labeled* and you obviously don't trust what it says but by YOUR reasoning - ANYONE would be able to pick any religion and follow murderers and torturers and claim naïveté as some sort of *get out of jail free* card. Sounds like a pretty lame excuse to me. Especially when Jesus' words are as plain and as simple as the nose on your face.
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The Bible is NOT from the Catholic church. It has been preserved via Holy Spirit.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#429101 Mar 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
tell me, where did the Bible come from and how do you know the Books that are in it...belong in it?
This is important because you're using those Books to usurp the Church for supposedly not going by it.
The Church never said 'Peter was in Rome because its in the Bible'.
So whatever verses you slice and dice and zig and zag to prove Peter was never in Rome is stupid. The Bible simply does not say he was in Rome and does not say he wasn't. The fact is, it doesn't matter if he was or was not.
Sorry I called YOU stupid, I should have said your logic is stupid.
I don't think I'm interested in talkin with you, Soc. You need to seriously look in the mirror and lose this silly 911 conspiracy UFO Christianity. Its gotta be incredibly insulting to Jesus Christ to be that way.
usurp: to seize, take over, or appropriate (land, a throne, etc.) without authority

How dare Soc!!!!! Of all the nerve!!!! He seized, took over, land and a throne without proper authority!!!!

The very audacity!!!!! He needs to return those illegally gained possessions...NOW!!!!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#429102 Mar 21, 2013
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Clay wrote:
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That's an interesting question not discussed a whole lot on here.
I'm guessing they have to believe the Earth is 5,000 or 10,000 yrs old to subscribe to sola scriptura. If they believe its millions of yrs old, then their going against the Bible! wow, what a pickle.
Quote: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

At what time in history is "In the beginning"?? Unless you know the answer, you, nor no one else, cannot possible know the age of earth.....
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#429103 Mar 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
That's an interesting question not discussed a whole lot on here.
I'm guessing they have to believe the Earth is 5,000 or 10,000 yrs old to subscribe to sola scriptura. If they believe its millions of yrs old, then their going against the Bible! wow, what a pickle.

Many Catholics even have the common sense to reject evolution theories. Pat Buchanan was talking on tv how he views this.

This european professor took part in a creation film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maciej_Giertych
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#429104 Mar 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Quote: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
At what time in history is "In the beginning"?? Unless you know the answer, you, nor no one else, cannot possible know the age of earth.....

The first day, verse 5.
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#429105 Mar 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
NONE of us Catholics, EVER claimed "superiority" and the other Churches inferior, just because we have the papacy and a pope (as the successor of St Peter) who speaks (THE TRUTH) for the Catholic Church,

Yet Jesus said he would send the Holy Spirit to each believer. Have you not read this?

http://bible.cc/john/16-13.htm
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#429106 Mar 21, 2013

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#429107 Mar 21, 2013
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socci wrote:
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The first day, verse 5.
And what date in history did this happen????!!!!

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