Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429021 Mar 21, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
your kinda an offensive devil-lover!
So sucking up to Mussolini and Hitler was your God's wishes?

So much for stand up to the gates of Hell.
truth

Perth, Australia

#429022 Mar 21, 2013
i don't think so you going give command to me..
as well i don't say against chine..they are smart people..i never explain like you..its wrong from you..o yesssss
please tell me..o don't tell anyone..about what kucice formula..are you for sure nothing inside..yesssssss
don't pretend with your lips you need explain
elements=chemical formula within
grijeh ulazi u usta=food medicine anything as well you cover up your body too
you need explain much more
please be good
what chine india egypt waithing
millenium
chalange something
are you for sure you going win
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429023 Mar 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
935
<quoted text>
First rule in betting. "To collect the bet...you must win it".
i did win,i gave you two correct answers,you said what day of the week it was and i said Tuesday which it was,so that is a correct answer,you did not specify that you were looking for a number of the day of the week which i gave you a correct answer of 3,so i win. you owe me a farm or i'll take cash value instead,or are you going to back out? i'll guess and say back out.
Clay

United States

#429024 Mar 21, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
So sucking up to Mussolini and Hitler was your God's wishes?
So much for stand up to the gates of Hell.
I don't think the Church 'sucked up' to either of those two. I really don't know a whole lot about Mussolini, but Hitler was condemned by the Church from very early on. Unfortunately a book that came out in 1999 called "Hitlers Pope" that was entirely based on unsubstantiated claims, fueled a new round of anti Catholic hate. People ate it up and spread it all as fact.
In reality, Pope Pius XII personally saved thousands of Jews in secret..hiding them in his personal residence and his vacation house.

On Palm Sunday in 1937, Pope Pius XI issued a Papal encyclical in German called "Mit Brennander Sorge" or 'With Burning Concern'(the only one ever written in a language besides Latin) officially criticizing the Nazis.
In the middle of the night before Palm Sunday, Vatican carriers smuggled it into Germany by train, foot, horseback, and whatever means they could. They hand delivered it to every Bishop in Germany with direct orders from the Pope to read it allowed at the Palm Sunday Mass. When Hitler heard about this the day after, he went into a rage, and the SS arrested the Bishops and Priests - many were never seen again. These Martyrs knew what was going to happen to them after they read a Papal letter criticising Hitler and the Nazis, but they did it anyway.

I can't provide links on my phone, but you can Google 'Mit Brennander Sorge' and check it on Wikipedia.

Also, check out Hitlers plans to invade the Vatican and topple the Church 'once and for all'.
(He forgot to read Matthew 16:18 I guess)

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429025 Mar 21, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
True...
Plus, after 1600 years, show us the real-world, real-life evidence of this moral superiority.
Where's the beef?
they briefly had superiority when they had the roman empire backing them,they got away with using fear tactics and murder and torture,that is your real world,real life of the man made christian,pagan church.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#429026 Mar 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Moral superiority or "personal CONDUCT or mis-conduct of some of the members within the Church---have absolutely NOTHING TO DO with what the Catholic Church teaches, proclaims and instructs as being TRUE for over 2000 years of "biblical, Traditional and Historical TRUTH!....Jesus Christ established, formed and initiated HIS ONE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH--for the purpose of "saving sinners" (of which we all are)....... I/We as Catholics follow, adhere to and worship the TRUTH and the TRUE Gospel and Salvation of Jesus Christ (in and through) the His One True Apostolic Catholic Church-(each day at daily Mass and the Eucharist)-because it is the ONLY CHURCH that teaches the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FULLNESS of the Faith!!
HOJO says.....it is the ONLY CHURCH that teaches the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FULLNESS of the Faith!!

MICHAEL says......the Pope stated yesterday meeting with many leaders of different traditional faiths that we are all in this together to strengthen humanity.

Doesn't sound like what you say everyday on here. You better get with the program or get left behind. Pope Francis has no time for people like you who claim superiority over others.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429027 Mar 21, 2013
socci wrote:
Your 1st link:
http://carm.org/wasnt-new-testament-written-h...

"the truth is that it was written before the close of the first century by those who either knew Christ personally"
- No. Luke was a 3rd generation disciple and "Paul" was a 3rd generation disciple. Note the phrase "before the close of the 1st C." - which indicates late in the century, which also implies decades after the supposed death of Jesus. Witnesses?- I doubt it. Oral tradition conveyed thru the generations?- more aptly possible/plausible. Written while witnessing the events?- Highly doubted by many scholars.

"had encountered him, or were under the direction of those who were His disciples"
- The NT is "attributed" to less than six of the original 13 Apostles, which means the true authorship is actually unknown. Which indicates that one cannot be sure the information is valid.

This is honesty.

Your link:
www.datingthenewtestament.com

- due to the fact that there is no reference data, footnotes, or bibliographies attached to this web-site, I'll have to disagree that it is formidable.
- Do you have information on where the data was accumulated from? Is the author reviewed by his/her peers for accuracy?
youtube

AOL

#429028 Mar 21, 2013
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100% PROOF Pope Francis is ANTICHRIST_______



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Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429029 Mar 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think the Church 'sucked up' to either of those two. I really don't know a whole lot about Mussolini, but Hitler was condemned by the Church from very early on. Unfortunately a book that came out in 1999 called "Hitlers Pope" that was entirely based on unsubstantiated claims, fueled a new round of anti Catholic hate. People ate it up and spread it all as fact.
In reality, Pope Pius XII personally saved thousands of Jews in secret..hiding them in his personal residence and his vacation house.
On Palm Sunday in 1937, Pope Pius XI issued a Papal encyclical in German called "Mit Brennander Sorge" or 'With Burning Concern'(the only one ever written in a language besides Latin) officially criticizing the Nazis.
In the middle of the night before Palm Sunday, Vatican carriers smuggled it into Germany by train, foot, horseback, and whatever means they could. They hand delivered it to every Bishop in Germany with direct orders from the Pope to read it allowed at the Palm Sunday Mass. When Hitler heard about this the day after, he went into a rage, and the SS arrested the Bishops and Priests - many were never seen again. These Martyrs knew what was going to happen to them after they read a Papal letter criticising Hitler and the Nazis, but they did it anyway.
I can't provide links on my phone, but you can Google 'Mit Brennander Sorge' and check it on Wikipedia.
Also, check out Hitlers plans to invade the Vatican and topple the Church 'once and for all'.
(He forgot to read Matthew 16:18 I guess)
The Vatican as usual played both sides.

The Second Secret of Fatima was obviously constructed and timed to support Hitler's (and Mussolini) invasion of Russia.

The RCC is not perfect. Get over it.

You don't need a perfect church, just a good one. Thanks to the new Pope, I think you are in luck.
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429030 Mar 21, 2013
Do we get any clue here of how Jesus summed up his teachings?

No.

Are we told in the Bible?

Yes.

I wonder who promotes all the bigotry we see here?

According to Jesus, it must be Satan.
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429031 Mar 21, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
HOJO says.....it is the ONLY CHURCH that teaches the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FULLNESS of the Faith!!
MICHAEL says......the Pope stated yesterday meeting with many leaders of different traditional faiths that we are all in this together to strengthen humanity.
Doesn't sound like what you say everyday on here. You better get with the program or get left behind. Pope Francis has no time for people like you who claim superiority over others.
Pope Satan is his only leader.

We must pray for all the Satan worshipers in this den of evil anti-Christs.
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429032 Mar 21, 2013
"The fundamentalist belief system is one that purports to have all the answers. It also claims to be the only way -- all deviations lead to hell. It follows then that parents who believe this would be very concerned about what their children believe. Any alternative ways of thinking about major life questions would be highly threatening. Consequently, the fundamentalist household rarely encourages children to explore their own thoughts, to be open-minded about ideas, or to come to their own conclusions. In fact, fundamentalist parents are typically vocal in their opposition to the teaching of critical thinking skills or values clarification in schools."

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#429033 Mar 21, 2013
truth wrote:
Please tell me where is that church..gates of hell not going prevail..please explain.
HUGE topic which it takes all of the Bible and decades of understanding it to explain, but in short:

the 'Church' as Christ defines it, is His Body of believers as individuals united as one for the purpose of continuing to demonstrate & promote the Gospel which He started through His first advent.

the 'gates of hell', i believe is the kingdom of the darkness which exists behind the physical realm consisting of lucifer and a miriad of other fallen anglels, which opposes the Kingdom of God/Body of Christ on earth.

each one of us wills and chooses which kingdom we pledge our allegiance to promote, whether wittingly or unwittingly based on the moral decisions we make and philosophies we embrace.

i think that's about it in a nutshell:)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#429034 Mar 21, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
So sucking up to Mussolini and Hitler was your God's wishes?
So much for stand up to the gates of Hell.
umm....Jesus and i never did that:)
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429036 Mar 21, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
umm....Jesus and i never did that:)
Never said you did. Never said Jesus did. You are confusing Jesus with the RCC.

Who gave the Vatican independent state status? Why?

Who made it possible for the RCC to own its own bank? Why?

Any treaties between the two?

Hint.....

"When these agreements were signed in 1929, Mussoliniís popularity was at its highest. He had got what he wanted - the support from the members of the public who may not have supported the Fascists but who saw the Roman Catholic Church working with the Fascist government, and that by itself created a tacit acceptance of Mussoliniís government."

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/mussolin...

We know you are not allowed to believe certain facts, but the facts are not going away.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429037 Mar 21, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
And I/we Catholics will "give you" the SAME answer! Where in the bible does it say that "every word, every phrase, every sentence, MUST BE IN THE BIBLE in order for it to be true!!...Furthermore--- Church History, records it, other disciples, followers and Christians "proclaimed the word Catholic (or Universal, or One Church)----(IN THE EARLY CHURCH) beginning in 070 AD and (even in the Churches that Paul wrote to :Ephesus, Thessalonian, Corinth, Philippi, etc. by Apologetic historian authors and writers that confirm it: both as Catholic and Protestant.--Send your "editorial opinions" to the New York times, L.A. Times, or the Mpls Star/Tribune, etc. Jethro8, and then you can "argue the word "Catholic" with the other bible only Protestants, whose bible only opinions have as much credibility as the "hog-wash" that it is printed in the National Inquirer.----There has, is and will (continue) to be "ONLY" (one truth) and that is in Jesus Christ and His One (and only one TRUE-Universal "Catholic Church"!!!
considering the bible is a man made hand picked set of books by a pagan group it is not reliable,not all the books are in there and the morons that put it together saw fit to burn i believe 27 books,so the bible is not an accurate complete source of information.since there is no other options you have no choice but to look in the bible,and nowhere does it state especially in your favorite book mat. that Jesus claimed the catholic church as his true church,he was not catholic or even christian,he was Jewish. i do not gop by hearsay it's not reliable,the only way you can prove that the catholic church is the church of Jesus Christ, you will have to find a passage where he states that fact,and no such passage exists and he never intended to create a religious denomination,his sole intention was to spread his fathers words,and his disciples were to do the same,not create different any type of group,jesus' church is simply "MY CHURCH" which he is the head of and who you answer to when you pass on,the pope, the traditions,praying to saints,changing the Sabbath,changing the commandments,are all heretical acts done by pagan/christian emperor Constantine and his band of 100 scholars.nothing holy or sacred about the catholic church,it's dark history that you refuse to except, tells you that in no way shape or form could it be the church Jesus speaks of building.it is built on the use of fear,death,abuse and thievery. if it were not for the roman empire the catholic church most likely would not exist,because the church did not have an army big enough in the beginning to do it's own looting and pillaging of the middle east,every artifact with-in the walls of the church is stolen property taken from conquered lands of the roman empire....try to prove me wrong,tell me where they got all the treasures they poses including the scriptures they used for the bible and the ones they burned,and the ones hidden to this day in their archives,god jesus did not give it to them so how did they aquire it??

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429039 Mar 21, 2013
Adam wrote:
Homosexuals are forcing Jesus to come.There comes a time where the dreams of sodomites and lesbians to live in sin will reach their critical masses. Homosexuals practice will be everywhere from Kindergartens even up in the Vatican. I fear that the world could have a homosexual pope in the times of the anti Christ. Pray to god to safe the mankind from homosexuality and to delay the coming of the anti Christ the leader of the homosexuals.May god have mercy with us.
in the first book of the bible it states we are a creation of gods image,so he is creating straight people,gay people,bi-sexual people and pedophiles and people with bestiality tendencies,what you are is genetic,you are born into your sexuality,there are some who experiment sexually and they find their experience to be pleasurable,but for the most part you are born into your sexual desires.there has been one known pedophile pope,and it's possible that there could of been a homosexual pope as well,but the church would never tell,they are having a hard time admitting to the child abuse scandal.obviously gay people bother you,if they are not hitting on you or bothering you in any way what's the big deal? i work with and have a friend who is gay and they know i'm not and they respect that as i respect their right to choose what ever life style that makes them happy,the only lousy people in the world are people who are just plain ole nasty a-wholes, do not like people like that,they go out of their way to be mean rotten and nasty,given the choice i'd rather have a world of straight and gay people and do away with the a-wholes,and the world would be a nicer place. live an let live.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429040 Mar 21, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Who gave who the permission to say what comes in the bible and what not?
no holy person did,it was created by a pagan/christian roman emperor along with 100 scholared unholy men.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#429041 Mar 21, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
HOJO says.....it is the ONLY CHURCH that teaches the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FULLNESS of the Faith!!
MICHAEL says......the Pope stated yesterday meeting with many leaders of different traditional faiths that we are all in this together to strengthen humanity.
Doesn't sound like what you say everyday on here. You better get with the program or get left behind. Pope Francis has no time for people like you who claim superiority over others.
Sorry Michael, but you are still, "off base" as usual. I never said, nor ever claimed that the Catholic Church is "superior" over others! What I did say, is the Jesus Christs One True Church has been given the "FULLNESS of the FAITH and the TRUTH by Jesus Christ Himself as HIS ONE TRUE CHURCH--------(not the only Church) but the One True Church. Over 500 years ago, that FULLNESS of the FAITH and the TRUTH, has gradually been "rejected since the Protestant Reformation........ Martin Luther began the elimination of the "initial teachings, doctrines, biblical, Historical and Traditional TRUTHS that Jesus established in the Early Churches of Antioch, Galatia, Thessalonica, Colossus, Philippi, Ephesus, ect........that were headed by His Apostles!!! Luther began by discarding 7 books of the bible, Zingli, denied the Eucharist (as the True body and blood of Christ, then Hus, then Wycliff, then Calvin, Knox, Hedio, Flacius, Cranmer, Petri, Tyndale, Vadian, Viret, Capito, Beza and on and on ALL rejected something else (during those later 500 years) that Jesus, His Apostles and the Early Churches had held as TRUE Doctrine, the TRUE Faith and the TRUE Word of God in the Sacred Teachings of Jesus, taught by the Apostle.......We, as Christians ALL (remain) bothers and sisters in Christ, but all "anyone who is a Catholic" has to do is to listen to the distortion, lies, deceit and heresy that is being "thrown around" by bible only Protestants, to see the how much biblical and historical TRUTHS have been "rejected" by beligerence, hostile and vengeful(half-truth), Protestants heretics!!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#429042 Mar 21, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Never said you did. Never said Jesus did. You are confusing Jesus with the RCC.
Who gave the Vatican independent state status? Why?
Who made it possible for the RCC to own its own bank? Why?
Any treaties between the two?
Hint.....
"When these agreements were signed in 1929, Mussoliniís popularity was at its highest. He had got what he wanted - the support from the members of the public who may not have supported the Fascists but who saw the Roman Catholic Church working with the Fascist government, and that by itself created a tacit acceptance of Mussoliniís government."
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/mussolin...
We know you are not allowed to believe certain facts, but the facts are not going away.
friend, you don't hafta convince me that the RCC is of the kingdom of darkness and not the Kingdom of God; i've renounced my membership decades ago.

the RCC DOES NOT promote the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but rather it promotes the sacraments of the vatican.

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