Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#428183 Mar 16, 2013
Must run.
Have a blessed 5th Sunday of Lent!

God bless our new Pope Francis.
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#428184 Mar 16, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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COMMENT: History proves that the First Protestant Church was the Lutheran, founded in 1517 by the ex-priest Martin Luther; all other of the some 42,800 sects have been created since then.
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There were others before Martin Luther, but
The Roman Catholic church torched the at stake put them on racks and pulled their bodies apart and put them to death in the most heinous ways. For over a period of 650 years...while burning all the Bibles they could confiscate...
They tried to do away with Luther but God was with Him and kept them from doing so...
Very few dictators in earth's history, destroyed more innocent people than the Roman Catholic Church..and THEY of all things did it in the name of God...
You wrote "There were others before Martin Luther,"

Oh really?!!!! Name them.

You don't even know who founded your church!

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#428185 Mar 16, 2013
Clay wrote:
Tomorrow is Saint Patricks Day.
A couple facts for the fundies:
- Saint Patrick brought Christianity to Ireland WITHOUT a Bible.
- Saint Patrick showed the Irish the Shamrock, to help them understand the Trinity...The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They could not read or write even if he had a Bible to give them. The three leaf shamrock was something they could grasp to 'get' who Jesus is. Yes, a graven image was used if a real shamrock wasn't available.(you think God was jealous of it??)
- Saint Patrick brought the Holy Mass to the Irish and the Eucharist converted them to Jesus Christ with the visual image of the shamrock helping em understand with they were partaking in.
Happy St. Patrick's Day, Clay!

St. Pat pray for us.
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Clay

United States

#428186 Mar 16, 2013
socci wrote:
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This was said of just Peter but the entire churchof believers. And no we do not have any authority to change God's law. There are warnings for changing any part of the Bible in Rev 22.
<quoted text>
There are no Biblical popes. However with this White character I was caught up in that for a while (10 years) so can comment, briefly. Catholics too have many mystics they claim get revelation from God. We are told in the Bible our sons and daughter will dream dreams and have visions. So, each claim has to be looked at seriously. If it agrees with the Bible then there may be something usefull. However today im of the opinion these dreams and visions are for the individual's own personal use as led by the Holy spirit, and not to lead others since there is no way to verify anything new.
Ellen White did not invent the Sabbath. There are over 500 denominations who keep the correct 7th day Sabbath. She is wrong about some things (not as much as the Catholic) but not wrong about the Sabbath.
Ellen white was successful in deceiving people into believing 'vicar of Christ'(in Greek or something) was alphabetically 666. Well, people ate it up because they were morons. She added a conspiracy ideology to the Book of Revelation. The visions John saw from God, are not what Ellen said they are. John forewarned her what would happen if she added to his prophecies. She arrogant ignored him. She is likely in hell as we speak.
That's not a nice thought Socci.

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#428187 Mar 16, 2013
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7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>It will lead you to the same conclusion:
The saved (good seed) and the lost (corrupt seed).
LOL
I must disagree on that one..

It would help you to understand Scripture if you had the correct definitions of key words in said Scripture...

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#428188 Mar 16, 2013
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hojo wrote:
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Let' put it this way! I "couldn't care less" as to what you bible only "fundie" (half-truth, half-heresy) Christians believe.... We,as Catholics (know--"without a doubt") that the TRUE FAITH and TRUE Salvation, is, has, and will ALWAYS be "grounded in Jesus Christ, which is "in and through" His biblically and historically PROVEN One True Catholic Church..... I listened to this anti-catholic distorted and perverted Protestant "bible only" propaganda for over 35 years until God, our Father, thru His Son Jesus--led me out of this "contradicting, condemning and judgmental sola scriptura religious doctrine of "self interpretation or better yet MIS-INTERPRETATION of the bible.... Bible only Protestantism, HAS NOT, nor WILL EVER----be able to- stand on its own beliefs, WITHOUT attacking the TRUTH of Jesus Christs" One True Apostolic Catholic Church....You can continue to spread all of the"exaggerated, distorted and (made up) lies that what which (continually) come "sprewing out of your mouths". The Historical and biblically facts have remained for over 2000 years and "there is ONLY one TRUTH"---"NOT 42,000 conflicting and inconsistent bible only "relative truths". And that TRUTH will always "remain" in Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church
You don't believe your own pope's teaching that clearly says Christ did not build a Catholic Church!!!!

From your NABre pope approved Bible:

this word (Greek ekklsia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original. Jesus’ church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God....

I added: The Catholic Church is a denomination.....No denominations are named in Scripture....nor in the definition of ekklsia...

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#428189 Mar 16, 2013
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Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
USA Catholics NEED to be dazed and confused!
Wake up or get out.
I think Pope Francis will be the best thing to happen to the Catholic Church in a long time. Him being Pope is no coincidence. Just like Saint Francis of Assisi heard a voice from Jesus, saying "repair my Church"...Pope Francis 'gets it'.
Everytime the Church gets wobbly, Christ sends a Saint. Sometimes its not a Pope- as in the case of Francis of Assisi - the Pope was the one Francis was called to wake up. I look forward to seeing Bishops and Cardinals taking the city bus to work with the other poor.
(I don't think it'll get that extreme but you never know)
If indeed he heard to voice of Jesus, he was sold some bad left-handed cigarettes from Mexico!!!!!

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#428190 Mar 16, 2013
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socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Breaking bread was an actual meal the believers had on this Saturday evening. The Biblical day begins at sunset. That night Paul preached his farewell sermon, "ready to depart the next day (Sunday)." At "daybreak" (verse 11). They were to go on a long journey. Something they would never do on the Sabbath.
We can give a sermon on any day. But it is the 7th day that remains the Sabbath. The 7th day Sabbath continued to be observed by the Christians.
Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles sought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath... And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Hebrews 4:4-8 For he spoke in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest ... For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remains therefore a rest to the people of God.
and many others too numerous to post: Sabbath Zone
www.whitehorsemedia.com/articles/...
You see if God's law had changed it would say; Jesus would have said upon his resurrection. Instead Jesus told the believers to take heed on the Sabbath.
We are told what was "nailed to the cross" or changed in Col 2:14-17 -- the sacrificial system & yearly sabbaths. Jesus is the high priest (Heb 4:14) there is no earthly priesthood, and God's law remains forever - all ten.
"The Biblical day"?????!!!! Make you a bet....you are a serious student of Hollywood 101 The Robe...Ten Commandments...Ben Hur...

Aren't you the one that argued that Moses built the ark????!!!!

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#428191 Mar 16, 2013
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socci wrote:
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They even passed laws to enforce all Christians to observe Sunday.
"Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day; but the Lord's day they shall especially honour, and as being Christians, shall, if possible, do no work on that day. If, however, they are found Judaizing, they shall be shut out anathema from Christ." Council of Laodicea, c. A.D. 364
There was also an earlier decree or law at the time of Constantine. The quote is online.
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is the Lord's Day. The resurrection is commemmorated in baptism.
"Buried with him in baptism, wherein also you are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead." Colossians 2:12
"Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.... knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." Romans 6:4-6
Pure paganisum!!!! Quote: They even passed laws to enforce all Christians to observe Sunday."Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day; but the Lord's day they shall especially honour, and as being Christians, shall, if possible, do no work on that day. If, however, they are found Judaizing, they shall be shut out anathema from Christ." Council of Laodicea, c. A.D. 364

Pure Christianity!!! Quote: Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

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#428192 Mar 16, 2013
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socci wrote:
<quoted text>
This was said of just Peter but the entire churchof believers. And no we do not have any authority to change God's law. There are warnings for changing any part of the Bible in Rev 22.
<quoted text>
There are no Biblical popes. However with this White character I was caught up in that for a while (10 years) so can comment, briefly. Catholics too have many mystics they claim get revelation from God. We are told in the Bible our sons and daughter will dream dreams and have visions. So, each claim has to be looked at seriously. If it agrees with the Bible then there may be something usefull. However today im of the opinion these dreams and visions are for the individual's own personal use as led by the Holy spirit, and not to lead others since there is no way to verify anything new.
Ellen White did not invent the Sabbath. There are over 500 denominations who keep the correct 7th day Sabbath. She is wrong about some things (not as much as the Catholic) but not wrong about the Sabbath.
Catholics are not bound by any Bible Scripture not to change God's Law...

For starters...The have changed the Ten Commandments to fit their own teaching....they "corrected" God....
Pad

Rockford, IL

#428193 Mar 16, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>gonna call you aliar on this statement since the bible DOESNT SAY A SEED WAS PLACED IN MARYS WOMB AND LIKE THE DEVIL WORSHIPPER, THE WORD [SEED] THAT IS USED IN GENESIS IS A FIGURE OF SPEECH, NOTHING MORE.
SINCE YOU WORK IN A HOSPITAL, WHY DONT YOU GO TO YOUR OB/GYN SECTION AND ASK ANY DOCTOR IF A SPIRIT CAN GET A FLESHLY WOMAN PREGNANT, AND WHEN YOU DO THE WHOLE HOSPITAL WILL WONDER WHY HE IS LAUGHING SO HARD AT YOU.LOL
Preston,what are you saying? Is anything impossible with G o d?"By the Holy Spirit", a virgin is made pregnant. Come on let's not make too much out of artificial insemination.No, preston,I do not intend to ask Ob/GYN about the Virgin Birth,we have to believe it,it is a mystery of faith.

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#428194 Mar 16, 2013
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StarC wrote:
Q.
Why do Catholics call their priests "Father" despite the fact that Christ said: "Call no man on earth your father; for one is your Father, who is in heaven"!(Matt. 23:9).
A.
Catholics call their priests "Father" because in
all matters pertaining to Christ's holy faith they
perform the duties of a father, representing God.
The priest is the agent of the Christian's
supernatural birth and sustenance in the world.
"Father" is a title which does not conflict in the
slightest with Matthew 23:9. Christ forbids the
Christian to acknowledge any fatherhood which
conflicts with the Fatherhood of God – just as He
commands the Christian to "hate" his father,
mother, wife, and his own life, insofar as these
conflict with the following of Christ.(Luke
14:26). But Christ does not forbid Christians to
call His own representatives by the name of
"Father." Catholic priests share in the
priesthood of Jesus Christ (not a human
priesthood), and their sacred ministry partakes of
the Fatherhood of God. Like St. Paul (himself a
Catholic priest), every Catholic priest can refer
to the souls he has spiritually begotten as his
children in Christ.(1 Cor. 4:14). St. Paul
considered himself to be the spiritual father, in
Christ, of the Corinthians: "For if you have ten
thousand instructors in Christ, yet not many
fathers. For in Christ Jesus, by the gospel, I
have begotten you." (I Cor. 4:15). The title of
"Father" is entirely proper for an ordained priest
of Jesus Christ.
What a crock!!!!!

Christ said: And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Catholics say: God got it wrong again...it is O.K. to call the priest "Father"...and they do....
Protestant Glasgow

Clydebank, UK

#428195 Mar 16, 2013
The Pope of Rome is the anti Christ.

The Reformed Protestant Faiths are the true religions of the world.

No Pope of Rome.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#428196 Mar 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<continued to Pad>
<quoted text>
Still thinking what pleases "God" and what doesn't?
*sighs*
Are you ever honest?
<quoted text>
*sighs*
<quoted text>
Then participate in my "prayer experiment".
Or are you afraid it will fail, thus showing your ritual is a false teaching?
<quoted text>
Self. Thanks for proving my point.
<quoted text>
Self again.
<quoted text>
Except through honesty, you only believe in a portion of Jesus, but refuse to admit this.
<quoted text>
It does? How?
Please show me where. Maybe you can get "God" to show me through praying for "Him" to guide me.
How 'bout it? Shall we start the pray experiment? It would answer all these questions.
Unless you are afraid of failure (which is also a product of Self)?
IMO - you have alot of strings dangling, and it appears that on any given day of the week, you really don't know which string to pull in order to make your day work for you the way you want. Self.
Why don't you believe Jesus' teachings about the Spirit and Self?
What is this prayer experiment? It is against your better judgment to agree with me on anything it seems,but than again I have found this whole thread basically a constant run around of arguements and so on.

I have been believing in JESUS His Spirit,and how I fit into that equation my whole life,what is this great revelation you want to share?

You do assume a lot,and do not express yourself NAL,really honestly.To say we are arrogant about our faith in the Father and His Son,and the body of Christ lends to assumption on your part.Lets go man,out with it,I want something I can both understand and digest!

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#428197 Mar 16, 2013
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StarC wrote:
Q. Why do Catholics believe that Peter the Apostle was the first Pope, when the word "Pope" doesn't even appear in Catholic Bibles?
Q. Just where does the Pope get his authority to rule over the Catholic Church?
A.
"True, the word "Pope" doesn't appear in the Bible – but then neither do the words "Trinity," "Incarnation," "Ascension" and "Bible" appear in the Bible. However, they are referred to by other names. The Bible, for example, is referred to as
"Scripture." The Pope, which means head bishop of
the Church, is referred to as the "rock" of the
Church, or as the "shepherd" of the Church.
Christ used that terminology when He appointed the
Apostle Peter the first head bishop of His Church,
saying: "Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona ...
Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my
church." (Matt. 16:17-19). "There shall be one
fold and one shepherd." (John 10:16). "Feed my
lambs ... feed my sheep." (John 21:15-17). The
words "rock" and "shepherd" must apply to Peter,
and they must distinguish him as the head Apostle,
otherwise Christ's statements are so ambiguous as
to be meaningless. Certainly the other Apostles
understood that Peter had authority from Christ to
lead the Church, for they gave him the presiding
place every time they assembled in council (Acts
1:15, 5:1-10), and they placed his name first
every time they listed the names of the Apostles.
(Matt. 10:2, Mark 3:16, Luke 6:13-14, Acts 1:13)."
Horse xxxx

Proof from Scripture that Christ did not found the Catholic Church...In Rev, when He referred to the seven (7) churches, He referred not to any of the Catholic Church..that was years and years after He said anything about building His church...

Besides...the Catholic religion is a denomination of Christianity...there are no denominations mentioned in Scripture...because He found no denominations...

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#428198 Mar 16, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>you didn't tell me anything,if you stop and think about the stories in the bible that is what it boils down too.
Sure I told you something...read any of these posts that end with these three digits: 890 745 473 416....
Pad

Rockford, IL

#428199 Mar 16, 2013
Protestant Glasgow wrote:
The Pope of Rome is the anti Christ.
The Reformed Protestant Faiths are the true religions of the world.
No Pope of Rome.
Calvinism may have some basic truths,but ultimately it is not Biblical Christianity.Cal me Armenian,but I find Calvinism absolutely Calvin,not that of the Holy Scriptures.However if you love the Lord Jesus and realize your need for His salvation,are born again,and walking in His light,and seeing that there is no "Respector of persons with God",and that He is not willing that any should perish,and wanting the GOSPEL to reach all nations,and to make disciples of every nation,than you are in the same boat.

As calling anyone antichrist,that remains to be revealed by the events as they unravel before us.Jesus warns us not to judge things before the time.Every Christian should do all that is possible to relate to one another,not to alienate constantly. If the pope is the antichrist,we will find out soon enough,and the Lord will give us warning first,as He does show these things to the Body.

I am just as concerned about Protestant Christianity as being deceptive i n many ways,as I am alarmed about all churches these days.The Bible does warn us,that, there will be a falling a w a y,apostasy will happen,and it is already in the ranks of all churches now.So who can point a finger at any expression of Christianity as being the anti-christ?

Let God reveal when He so desires.Trouble waits at the door of every heart,we all need to SEE Jesus N o w,in our own lives.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#428200 Mar 16, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You're disagreements are not little theological differences for goodness sakes. The very path to salvation is at stake. Sola fide or fide + works!
One of ya are preaching something that Jesus Christ does did not teach. Yet, you seem oblivious to that fact; as if its all ok so as long as you're united against the 'evil Catholic Church and their anti Christ Pope' lol.
You're perishing in your disputes.
Ww know that the RCC and Papacy is behind the Econimic control and hold the leases over the estates and affairs of this world.

Revelation 18

King James Version (KJV)


18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!



23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#428201 Mar 16, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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<quoted text>
What a crock!!!!!
Christ said: And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Catholics say: God got it wrong again...it is O.K. to call the priest "Father"...and they do....
And before that Jesus said not to call any man Rabbi amongst you.None of us can be placed on a pedestal of higher status as it does delete the role of a servant.It is commendable when Christians see each other as brothers and serving ,not lording over.

We want to avoid elitism in the church.This present Pope Francis,is trying to show a submissive role,already.That may be genuine or not,but only God can judge before the time,we are spared the responsibility of passing judgment,and that is so that PEACE reigns within our hearts.

Nevertheless we are also open to warning and being wise as serpents,but harmless as doves.

It seems that many Christians are quick to be wreckless in our judgment.

As for f a t h e r,I do agree that God shows Himself alone as being our Holy Father!
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#428202 Mar 16, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You agreeing with another anti Catholic doesn't ruffle my feathers at all. I would expect nothing less then for you all to be allied against your common enemy. You guys just masquerade as a united group, guided by Sola Scripture.
You don't think we can't see the ridiculous claim that the Holy Spirit is guiding you to truth with Scripture? How insulting to the perfect flawless Holy Spirit.
Perfect and flawless are great descriptions of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit's preservation of God's Word. The need you claim for the church to interpret the words for us is where we do not agree. I believe if we study to show ourselves approved, as the Bible instructs us to do, we will find the truth. Otherwise, man creates confusion. I don't believe the Holy Spirit can be blamed for our shortcomings.

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