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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#428378 Mar 17, 2013
Excerpt from former post...

As Margaret Thatcher (former Prime Minister of Great Britain) once said

"Socialism is GREAT - UNTIL you run out of other people's money".
Pad

Fishers, IN

#428379 Mar 17, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I won't need the sweet tea starburst-colored Les Paul Classic this morning. We're worshipping in the manner the first century Christians did. Without instruments, with the exception of course of our God given instruments, accapella.
Shouldn't be sinful at all to worship God exactly as the first century Christians did, should it?
Of course not,there is no statute that states Accapella singing is wrong.However,the old Covenant is packed with instruments of that time period used in the worship of God.Flutes,lyres,horns,and so on. Legalism is when we emphatically reject stating that it is a sin if we use instuments,or do not use them.

I have often talked with people from the churches of Christ and elsewhere who do not use instruments,and what is unique Saban fan,many Christian artists who sing accapella,and share it with the rest of the body of Christ,shows maturity.

Often Christians of many groups have enjoyed the quartets and groups that come from your churches to sing wonderfully the same songs we all know and love to worship our Lord.The voice is beautiful,but the instruments are great as well when used to glorify the Lord who is worthy of all of our praise.I find legalism either way repulsive and narrow-minded.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#428380 Mar 17, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
It matters not what your sick cult thinks about Sunday observance. They are no authority.
It only matters what the Apostles established. You guys lied to everybody and said Constantine changed it to Sunday. The truth is, Paul and the Apostles did it. We know from the writings of their Disciples.
You ignorant fools have done enough damage with the Holy Scriptures and you arrogantly are blind to the fact your a cult member. You can't be doing that with Christianity. You teach things that are against the will of the Lord.
Yesterday you tried to manipulate the Book of Revelation to pad your ideology. John did not vision what you claim. You added to his prophecy and are to blind to notice. Repent 7th
The Bible which your church claims to have produced does not even acknowledge it to be the word of God nor does it keep or stay true to the scriptures contained n it's context. Why because the RCC is a man made CULT !!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#428381 Mar 17, 2013
336 240 166
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You keep repeating the same "old" Protestant "distortions" "lies" and bigoted (hypocricy) of Church History and bible (mis-interpretations which you "fundies" rely upon to keep your "bible only" boat from sinking (further) than it already IS, into the depths of "oblivion"!---Prodig al Son (defiant and rebellious Protestants) "founded denominations" in the 16th century--beginning with Luther, at the Reformation----Today, "you can (dig-up) more than 42,000 contradicting-inconsistent Protestant DENOMINATIONS of (bible only) chaos, disorientation, utter confusion, and disordered bible (mis)interpretation!!-----I "lived" this sola scriptura "lie" for over 35 years before God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit "opened my eyes" to the TRUTH of Our Lords TRUE Gospel of (biblical and historical TRUTH in and through "Our crucified and risen Lords" One TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ)----You, Ox and your other "disoriented" (fundie) editorialists----CAN HAVE (your bible only (half truth)(half heresy) Christianity!!!--- IT IS ALL YOURS!--- I/We as Catholic ALL KNOW (what has, is and will CONTINUE) to be the AUTHENTICATED PROVEN HISTORICAL AND BIBLICAL TRUTH!---It is in the faith and salvation of Jesus Christ, that HE left for us, over 2000 years ago, IN AND THROUGH is One (and Only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church!
No "old" Protestant "distortions" "lies" and bigoted (hypocricy) of Church History and bible (mis-interpretations....the Truth...supported by Scripture...the infallible Word of God..
Repeat:
There are no denominations mentioned in Scripture...because He found no denominations...your cult is a denomination....
And: When Christ referred to the seven (7) churches in Rev....He did not refer to any of them as "Catholic"...because there were no Catholic churches...further proof that He did not found your cult...
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#428382 Mar 17, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
...and only one church that Christ built and is the cornerstone of, that the Apostles we read about in scripture are the foundation. It is built on the rock or confession that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. That would make two separate churches therefore one by definition HAS to be a denomination. All of the things I will do and practice and see this morning will have scriptural evidence to confirm the activities were in fact a part of the first century church we read about. I don't think you could say the same about your Apostilistic church.
"Opinion--opinion--and more personal opinions"!... Opinions are the "entire basis of your "bible only" editorialized Protestant beliefs. You "fundies" just "make it up" as you go along....First you start with your "own personal" bible interpretations (or better yet "mis-interpretation of Sacred Scripture. Then---you begin to "re-write" and "manipulate" over 2000 years of (authenticated, proven and verified) Church History (to make it mean ONLY what you want it to mean"! Put it all together with your (tilting, shakey, and collapsing) bible verse "pyramid" of (cafeteria selected) bible passages--"taken out of context) and the result is over 42,000 conflicting, contradicting and inconsistent Protestant denominations of confusion, chaos and distorted "heretical teachings" that have "come and gone for over 2000 years, beginning with Arian Heresy in the 32rd century. I know the bible only "game" of anti-catholic bigotry,and hypocritical (half-truth) Christianity (very well) after being "duped" by this bible only "bogus belief) for over 35 years. There is ONLY one TRUTH (NOT 42,000 CONTRADICTING "Relative Truths" and that TRUTH, has, is and will CONTINUE to be in Jesus Christ in and through HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#428383 Mar 17, 2013
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>..he is right,also your unholy phony church spews out more b.s. propaganda than all other churches combined,since they are the richest church,from the thefts from countries conquered by the roman army.everything in the R.P.C. church is stolen property,i'm sure god is proud of that.
not sure what your trying to say here?
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#428384 Mar 17, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Of course not,there is no statute that states Accapella singing is wrong.However,the old Covenant is packed with instruments of that time period used in the worship of God.Flutes,lyres,horns,and so on. Legalism is when we emphatically reject stating that it is a sin if we use instuments,or do not use them.
I have often talked with people from the churches of Christ and elsewhere who do not use instruments,and what is unique Saban fan,many Christian artists who sing accapella,and share it with the rest of the body of Christ,shows maturity.
Often Christians of many groups have enjoyed the quartets and groups that come from your churches to sing wonderfully the same songs we all know and love to worship our Lord.The voice is beautiful,but the instruments are great as well when used to glorify the Lord who is worthy of all of our praise.I find legalism either way repulsive and narrow-minded.
Also in the new testament the brother of the prodigal son came running and heard MUSIC !!!

Luke 15
And they began to be merry.

25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#428385 Mar 17, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
very well said Pad, us Born-Agains are indeed in One mind and Spirit, and since there is only One Spirit from above, it's so right and welcome that you confront the false one's like Gif does, you don't want their blood on your hands. May God Bless you and your family dear brother.
It is important that we all come to realize that the Spirit of the Living God is no respector of p e r s o n s when it comes to who will be His Witnesses.

When our hearts and minds are changed by God we become His witnesses.

That is our unity in the SPIRIT,our witness of the Suprmem and Holy LORD and His Son Jesus the Messiah.The Holy Spirit brings to life our witness as we see the revelation of God,which is confirmed by the Word.

I believe that the abuse of the term Sola Scriptura, is a smoke screen,because it challenges the holy extent of greatness that God has meant for His Word to function in the Body of Christ.

All believers are called to respect and use the Word of God for the enhancement and enrichment of Perfection in the Body of believers.Without the Word we are lost,as all"have sinned and come S H O R T of the glory of God". Think about that for a moment,"all have sinned",that brings to challenge the human reliance on ourselves and our own efforts to be R E L I G I O U S. Because it is deep in the nature of human beings to be religious.

But God calls us through His W o r d, to have a relationship,and to allow the discipline of the Holy Spirit to truly condition us for the glory of God.

Our efforts although noble can distort the designs of the Father for us,especially if we place His Word on the shelf of our conscience,rather than a guide used by the Holy Spirit to confirm all that the Kingdom of God established in His Kingdom.

Since we are called to be part of the great BUILDING of God,we need the Word as the blueprint to help us to build correctly with the aid of the Spirit.

Thank you for joining me in spirit,may the LORD bless you and your family.And may He bless Robert Dye as well and his family and relatives for His glory.We all strive to serve Him who has called all believers to be MINISTERS of righteousness.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#428386 Mar 17, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Excerpt from former post...
As Margaret Thatcher (former Prime Minister of Great Britain) once said
"Socialism is GREAT - UNTIL you run out of other people's money".
And it is all about control by the government,they do not beleive that we the people really have the right to vote and contribute to the future of our country.

Socialists and Communists both suppress individualism in any given country.The Democracy we have however needs to be re-evaluated by our intellectuals who form groups as think-tanks,which support citizen involvement and concern.There are plenty of people in this country who know what is best for this nation economically and socially,those voices need to be heard more than ever before.

President Obama can only succeed in tearing this nation apart if we let him.He already has accomplished a divisive war in the Capitol,House of Reps,and the Senate.Divide and conquer.

It is tragically obvious that President Obama wants to divide our politicians,and incorporate socialism,whether it is pure Communism or a hybrid of such,it is all the same.The American people fail to see this,and espeically those who are blinded by their personal agenda,rather than the common good for America.

America is not a nation of one particular type of ethnicity,but a melting pot,which should lend to a great openess of ideas and solid intelligence to save our nation from one who would strip us of what this nation so painfully strived for the last two centuries.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#428387 Mar 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
"Opinion--opinion--and more personal opinions"!... Opinions are the "entire basis of your "bible only" editorialized Protestant beliefs. You "fundies" just "make it up" as you go along....First you start with your "own personal" bible interpretations (or better yet "mis-interpretation of Sacred Scripture. Then---you begin to "re-write" and "manipulate" over 2000 years of (authenticated, proven and verified) Church History (to make it mean ONLY what you want it to mean"! Put it all together with your (tilting, shakey, and collapsing) bible verse "pyramid" of (cafeteria selected) bible passages--"taken out of context) and the result is over 42,000 conflicting, contradicting and inconsistent Protestant denominations of confusion, chaos and distorted "heretical teachings" that have "come and gone for over 2000 years, beginning with Arian Heresy in the 32rd century. I know the bible only "game" of anti-catholic bigotry,and hypocritical (half-truth) Christianity (very well) after being "duped" by this bible only "bogus belief) for over 35 years. There is ONLY one TRUTH (NOT 42,000 CONTRADICTING "Relative Truths" and that TRUTH, has, is and will CONTINUE to be in Jesus Christ in and through HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church.
~~~

However you slice it ...Your ditto posts is still boloney...

Your house is built upon sand....it has no foundation

Jesus said...

Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

Mat 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

It is impossible for Your corruptible pebble to be the foundational

basis of the Church...God can reach to the other side of the universe

to meet any need that presents itself...Your Pope can never reach

beyond his concept of God and His ability to provide....If he has no

more faith than you do.... if his spirituality was dynamite, he would

have enough to blow his royal nose.

Your concept of God is limited by your carnal concept and human

limitations defined by you five senses..real faith in the unlimited

ability of God does not exist and is not even considered...

With any Honestly ...can you explain what Jesus meant when He said...

Mat_28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#428388 Mar 17, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I won't knock you for worshiping God how you do.
But you do not worship like the first century Christians. If you did, you'd be Catholic or Orthodox.
Yet another statement without a scriptural reference. Complete opinion from The Gospel of Clay 51:50
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#428389 Mar 17, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
No they don't take do the issue. Like you, they pretend certain truths don't exist. Like, the collective official Jewish canon came AFTER all the Books of the NT were written.
So, which Books are Jesus and Paul endorsing.
Tradition tells us the first century Christians considered Tobit and the other ones inspired. Even the Jewish sect that possessed the Dead Sea Scrolls had Tobit in their collection.
They thought Tobit was the word of God, how come YOU don't, Saban??
If tradition considers the book inspired how in the tradition was it left out!?!?
guest

United States

#428390 Mar 17, 2013
Hell is REAL wrote:
JESUS CHURCH IS A SPIRITUAL CHURCH A BODY OF REPENTED TO CHRIST ONLY, BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS WHO OBEY HIM THROUGH HIS WORD IN THE KJ BIBLE. WE ARE THE TEMPLES OF GOD. YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN IN THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST. CATHOLICISM DOES NOT EVEN TEACH THIS. THEY TEACH THEIR MEMBERS TO TRUST IN THE CHURCH, MARY, SACRAMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THE TRUTH AND THAT IS TO TRUST IN JESUS ONLY! HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE YOU. 1Ti_2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; NOT MARY EITHER, WE ARE NOT EVEN TO PRAY TO MARY. ONLY TO JESUS AND GOD. PERIOD.
THIS IS NOT CHRISTS CHURCH. YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO LIKE ME MOST OF MY WHOLE LIFE. IT'S TIME YOU ACCEPT JESUS ONLY AS THE TRUTH AND SEEK GOD THROUGH HIM AND THE READING OF THE BIBLE.
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE TRUTH IS ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THERE IS NOTHING HOLY ABOUT IT AND I HATE THE LIES THEY TELL TO DECIEVE THE MASSES RIGHT INTO HELL.
http://alamoministries.com/content/english/An...
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I clicked on the link. YIKES!
-
A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words.

Twenty Pictures are Worth 20,000 Words.

NAZI CATHOLIC VATICANITES
-
-
And Jesus' word at Matthew 23:9; "Call No Man Father." is worth NOTHING to the Catholic.
zip
zilch
zero
nada
But,
"Call Priests and Pope Father." well that gets traction because the POPE OBVIOUSLY HAS MORE CLOUT, HERE ON EARTH, THAN DOES GOD. Who knew?
-
do they not realize they are calling Jesus a LIAR when they say it's OK to call priests "Father"? in essence committing the unforgivable sin. Calling Jesus a LIAR makes null his promise of the Helper coming.
http://bible.cc/john/16-7.htm
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#428391 Mar 17, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Of course not,there is no statute that states Accapella singing is wrong.However,the old Covenant is packed with instruments of that time period used in the worship of God.Flutes,lyres,horns,and so on. Legalism is when we emphatically reject stating that it is a sin if we use instuments,or do not use them.
I have often talked with people from the churches of Christ and elsewhere who do not use instruments,and what is unique Saban fan,many Christian artists who sing accapella,and share it with the rest of the body of Christ,shows maturity.
Often Christians of many groups have enjoyed the quartets and groups that come from your churches to sing wonderfully the same songs we all know and love to worship our Lord.The voice is beautiful,but the instruments are great as well when used to glorify the Lord who is worthy of all of our praise.I find legalism either way repulsive and narrow-minded.
Interesting thought.
I find it also interesting that two of the current American Idol contestants were raised in the church of Christ. Paul Jolley and the blond headed country singing girl (can't remember her name).
guest

United States

#428392 Mar 17, 2013
Clay wrote:
I won't knock you for worshiping God how you do.
But you do not worship like the first century Christians. If you did, you'd be Catholic or Orthodox.
-
-
Saban fan wrote:
Yet another statement without a scriptural reference. Complete opinion from The Gospel of Clay 51:50
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Hrmmm ... Catholic OR Orthodox, Clay?
Now, tell me Clay, How are these separate named church's NOT considered denominations?
-
hmmm?
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#428393 Mar 17, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet another statement without a scriptural reference. Complete opinion from The Gospel of Clay 51:50
Scripture doesn't spell out how the first century Christians worship. Sure, you see glimpses in Pauls epistles, but it doesn't command us to a certain itinerary. You need to read the writings of the Disciples of the Apostles if you want to learn how Christians celebrated Sunday worship. Its exactly like the Catholic Mass today; centred around the alter where they believe Christ became present again upon the prayers of the validly ordained Priest - reciting the very words of Jesus Christ, "this IS my body".

Besides, whatever scripture I would provide. You'd reject. Yah, that's the beauty of sola scripture and private interpretation. You simply can reject someone else's view of Holy Scripture.

Unfortunately, you reject the views of the men who orally heard the Gospel explained through the mouths of the Apostles. That's where the real danger lays with You guys... You're teaching something opposite than what the Apostles taught.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#428394 Mar 17, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
However you slice it ...Your ditto posts is still boloney...
Your house is built upon sand....it has no foundation
The House of God, which is His Son Jesus Christs' One True Catholic Church, is built upon the TRUE foundation of Jesus Christ HIMSELF..... Your bible only "editorial (half-truth, half-heresy Christianity is built upon "each "fundies" own personal" foundation of "bible verses", which "adds up to" 42,000 different Protestant interpretations, that are just "man-made" denominations beginning with 1) Martin Luther 2) Zwingli, 3) Hus, 4) Wycliff, 5) Calvin, 6) Hedio, 7)Petri, 8)Cranmer, 9) Knox, 10) Flacius-------all the way down to---- 42,131. Confrinting, 42,132. justachristian1, 42,133 Orville, 42,134. Oxbox and on and on and on and on ------ALL contradicting each other, ALL editorializing the bible, ALL just "making it up" as they go along----ALL of which are contradicting to each other and ALL of which are inconsistent, conflicting denominations that are "man-made" Christian denominations!!!....... Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church is the ONLY CHURCH that was instituted, formed, established and founded by Jesus Christ HIMSELF!(there is no other)!!
Clay

Garden City, MI

#428395 Mar 17, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
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I clicked on the link. YIKES!
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<quoted text>
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And Jesus' word at Matthew 23:9; "Call No Man Father." is worth NOTHING to the Catholic.
zip
zilch
zero
nada
But,
"Call Priests and Pope Father." well that gets traction because the POPE OBVIOUSLY HAS MORE CLOUT, HERE ON EARTH, THAN DOES GOD. Who knew?
-
do they not realize they are calling Jesus a LIAR when they say it's OK to call priests "Father"? in essence committing the unforgivable sin. Calling Jesus a LIAR makes null his promise of the Helper coming.
http://bible.cc/john/16-7.htm
Lol. Its you who would be committing the sin by going against what the Apostles taught. You think Christ can't see you deliberately isolating a verse?
Your hands ain't washed just because you're playing stupid by hiding behind 'call no man father' or 'thou shall not make unto thee any graven images'. You're the perfect example why the Church forbids private interpretations of sacred scripture. You went Awol with it, guess. Compounds across the world are filled with morons who don't know how to read the Bible.

The children trapped in that lifestyle brings tears to my eyes..
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#428396 Mar 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
"Opinion--opinion--and more personal opinions"!... Opinions are the "entire basis of your "bible only" editorialized Protestant beliefs. You "fundies" just "make it up" as you go along....First you start with your "own personal" bible interpretations (or better yet "mis-interpretation of Sacred Scripture. Then---you begin to "re-write" and "manipulate" over 2000 years of (authenticated, proven and verified) Church History (to make it mean ONLY what you want it to mean"! Put it all together with your (tilting, shakey, and collapsing) bible verse "pyramid" of (cafeteria selected) bible passages--"taken out of context) and the result is over 42,000 conflicting, contradicting and inconsistent Protestant denominations of confusion, chaos and distorted "heretical teachings" that have "come and gone for over 2000 years, beginning with Arian Heresy in the 32rd century. I know the bible only "game" of anti-catholic bigotry,and hypocritical (half-truth) Christianity (very well) after being "duped" by this bible only "bogus belief) for over 35 years. There is ONLY one TRUTH (NOT 42,000 CONTRADICTING "Relative Truths" and that TRUTH, has, is and will CONTINUE to be in Jesus Christ in and through HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church.
Really?
Well allow me to take the statement you replied to, which you say is opinion, and put scripture references to it from the Word of God:

...and only one church (Eph. 4:4-5) that Christ built and is the cornerstone of (Eph. 2:20), that the Apostles we read about in scripture are the foundation (Eph. 2:20). It is built on the rock or confession that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (Matt. 16:13-18). That would make two separate churches therefore one by definition HAS to be a denomination. All of the things I will do and practice and see this morning will have scriptural evidence to confirm the activities were in fact a part of the first century church we read about (We find examples in the NT after the church was established at Pentecost in Acts 2 of singing of hymns, prayers, teaching from scripture, The Lord's Supper, baptism (repenting and confessing too) and the giving of our means all mentioned as parts of our worship).

I'll repeat my last line of which you owe me some scripture references:

I don't think you could say the same about your Apostilistic church.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#428397 Mar 17, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Scripture doesn't spell out how the first century Christians worship. Sure, you see glimpses in Pauls epistles, but it doesn't command us to a certain itinerary. You need to read the writings of the Disciples of the Apostles if you want to learn how Christians celebrated Sunday worship. Its exactly like the Catholic Mass today; centred around the alter where they believe Christ became present again upon the prayers of the validly ordained Priest - reciting the very words of Jesus Christ, "this IS my body".
Besides, whatever scripture I would provide. You'd reject. Yah, that's the beauty of sola scripture and private interpretation. You simply can reject someone else's view of Holy Scripture.
Unfortunately, you reject the views of the men who orally heard the Gospel explained through the mouths of the Apostles. That's where the real danger lays with You guys... You're teaching something opposite than what the Apostles taught.
I never claimed there was a certain itinerary. We do know they met on the first day of the week and we do know that they were given instructions from Paul and others. I follow the instructions and I do not follow anthing they did not instruct.

You cannot say the same.

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