Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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The One True Catholic Church has been verified, recorded and proven for over 2000 years and whether I repeat it over and over again, doesn't change change "anything"! It still remains an authenticated and proven FACT of biblical and historical Church History! What it comes down to is that your "rejection and denial" of this recorded TRUTH of the Catholic Church --now becomes "your problem"! Your denial of the TRUTH of Jesus Christs One True Church has not,and will not "EVER" make it "untrue"!
Hogwash!!!!!

Like most Catholics, you ignore the teaching of your pope approved NABre Bible. Regards Mt 16:18 it teaches:

Church: this word (Greek ekklsia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original. Jesusí church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God....

The Catholic Church is a denomination.....No denominations are named in Scripture....

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What Jews believe today and what they believed 2000 years ago are two different things. They were watching for the Messiah then. Herod even put out a death decree for infants of the age. The prophecy of Daniel 9 is about a coming Messiah telling the exact year he would come. They knew. Many did convert. The first Christians were all Jews!
Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

They are still waiting for their Messiah.

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You are "confused" as ever guest!! The fact is that the TRUTH, which is in Jesus Christ, is manifested (completely) IN and THROUGH His One TRUE Catholic Church. Biblical and Historical Church History "confirms" this TRUTH (over and over again) and that TRUTH has, is and will ALWAYS be "grounded" in Our Lords One True Catholic Church........ It is the FULLNESS of that TRUTH and the FAITH that has set "all of us Catholics free" from the bondage of divisive bible only Protestantism which has "little to offer"as it continues to "desperately hang on" to its half-truth "Relative editorialize truth" which is, in fact, "bits and pieces" of Jesus Christ One True Catholic Church!
Hogwash!!!!!

Like most Catholics, you ignore the teaching of your pope approved NABre Bible. Regards Mt 16:18 it teaches:

Church: this word (Greek ekklsia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original. Jesusí church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God....

The Catholic Church is a denomination.....No denominations are named in Scripture...

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And YOU my friend, have direct ties to the same old bible only Protestant, "dirty laundry list" that relies "totally" on "digging up" any kind of "exaggerated trash news" it can find, in your "failed attempt" to undermine the ONE TRUTH Church of Jesus Christ----The Catholic Church!!!!
Hogwash!!!!!

Like most Catholics, you ignore the teaching of your pope approved NABre Bible. Regards Mt 16:18 it teaches:

Church: this word (Greek ekklsia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original. Jesusí church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God....

The Catholic Church is a denomination.....No denominations are named in Scripture...

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You... as well as my self.... can only speculate...about what God did and How Mary conceived..
THE FACT THAT SHE BIRTH JESUS IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT
I have never claimed to have all of the answers..I only gave my opinion..and truth being known ,,,that is all you can give.
So cut the insults and be the loving Christin you supposed to be.
To be honest..You don't know any more than any one else does about the subject.
We both know how a Christian supposed to behave himself toward others....The Bible does not leave that to speculation....
for a person to CORRECT you doesnt take away from their Salvation and Christianity, and for you to try and silence them, DOES TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE.the Bible is clear that we are to help out those who are ignorant of What the Bible teaches.

even Jethro has enough carnal knowledge to know that God a Spirit, did not have intercourse with Mary and get her Pregnant, as you and PAD try to suggest that HE placed a[seed] in her womb, making Mary pregnant(not to mention the sdda cultist).

even the sperm of a man will not get a woman pregnant unless it fertilizes her egg.AND GOD HAS NO SPERM.

SOME DAY, SOME OF YOU MIGTH WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT WHAT GOD PLACED INTO HER WOMB WAS ALREADY FORMED AND REQUIRED NOTHING FROM MARY.

as I have said numerous times, if the egg of mary was used, then jesus was half man and half God.

it is a shame that many of the people on here are not able to see something as simple as this Birth.

AND UNLIKE OXBORN{PROBABLY}, I DO HAVE OVER 50 YEARS IN THE MEDICAL FIELD.

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<quoted text>gonna call you aliar on this statement since the bible DOESNT SAY A SEED WAS PLACED IN MARYS WOMB AND LIKE THE DEVIL WORSHIPPER, THE WORD [SEED] THAT IS USED IN GENESIS IS A FIGURE OF SPEECH, NOTHING MORE.
SINCE YOU WORK IN A HOSPITAL, WHY DONT YOU GO TO YOUR OB/GYN SECTION AND ASK ANY DOCTOR IF A SPIRIT CAN GET A FLESHLY WOMAN PREGNANT, AND WHEN YOU DO THE WHOLE HOSPITAL WILL WONDER WHY HE IS LAUGHING SO HARD AT YOU.LOL
Your words: THE WORD [SEED] THAT IS USED IN GENESIS IS A FIGURE OF SPEECH, NOTHING MORE.

That is as moronic as it gets....

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Horse puckett.....
I am very curious, Is there anyone that speaks the truth on here excepting you, of course?lol
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<quoted text>And shabbot Shalom to you...However did you know their was A god named hap.
Nope did not know that. Glad I saig Happy not hap........lol

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The definition of seed is not Christ...can't be...it also speaks of the seed of the devil...
Look: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
See "between thy seed and her seed".....
btw: the devil aim't got no egg to be fertilized, vulcanized or pasteurized!!!!!!!!! And he ain't never conceived!!!!!
and horse apples to you ox. this is figuritive, not literal.

and it speaks of the warfare between jesus and the devil

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Your words: THE WORD [SEED] THAT IS USED IN GENESIS IS A FIGURE OF SPEECH, NOTHING MORE.
That is as moronic as it gets....
only to morons and prosimians such as yourself.lol

like you just posted, the devil aint got no [seed].lol.

so it must be figuritive.
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The definition of seed is not Christ...can't be...it also speaks of the seed of the devil...
Look: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
See "between thy seed and her seed".....
btw: the devil aim't got no egg to be fertilized, vulcanized or pasteurized!!!!!!!!! And he ain't never conceived!!!!!
The Promise in Eden
The pathetic story of man's fall is related in Genesis chapter 3. The serpent was cursed for misquoting God's word and tempting Eve to disobey it. The man and woman were punished for their disobedience. But a ray of hope comes into this dark picture when God says to the serpent:-

"I will put enmity (hatred, opposition) between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (the woman's seed) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel" (Gen. 3:15).

This verse is highly concentrated; we need to carefully define the various things involved. A "seed" means a descendant or child, but it can also refer to the people associated with the particular "seed". We will see later that Abraham's "seed" was Jesus (Gal. 3:16), but that if we are "in" Jesus by baptism, then we also are the seed (Gal. 3:27-29). This word "seed" also refers to the idea of sperm (1 Pet. 1:23); so a true seed will have the characteristics of its father.

The seed of the serpent must therefore refer to that which has the family likeness of the serpent:-

distorting God's Word
lying
leading others into sin.
We will see in Study 6 that there is not a literal person doing this, but that within us there is

"our old man" of the flesh (Rom. 6:6)
"the natural man" (1 Cor. 2:14)
"the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts" (Eph. 4:22)
"the old man with his deeds" (Col. 3:9).
This "man" of sin within us is the Biblical "devil", the seed of the serpent.

The seed of the woman was to be a specific individual - "thou (the serpent's seed) shalt bruise his heel" (Gen. 3:15). This person was to permanently crush the serpent's seed, i.e. sin - "it shall bruise thy head". Hitting a snake on the head is a death blow - seeing its brain is in its head. The only person who is a likely candidate for the seed of the woman must be the Lord Jesus:-

Jesus Christ, who hath (by the cross) abolished death (and therefore the power of sin - Rom. 6:23), and hath brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel" (2 Tim. 1:10).

"God sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh", i.e. the Biblical devil, the seed of the serpent (Rom. 8:3).

Jesus "was manifested to take away our sins"(1 Jn. 3:5).

"Thou shalt call his name Jesus (meaning "Saviour"):for he shall save his people from their sins" (Mt. 1:21).

Jesus was literally "made of a woman" (Gal. 4:4) as the son of Mary, although God was his Father. Thus in this sense, too, he was the seed of the woman, although provided by God in a way no other man has been. This seed of the woman was to be temporarily wounded by sin, the seed of the serpent - "thou shalt bruise his heel" (Gen. 3:15). A snake bite on the heel is normally a temporary wound, compared to the permanence of hitting the snake on the head. Many figures of speech have Biblical roots: "knock it on the head" (i.e. completely stop or end something) is probably based on this prophecy of Jesus hitting the snake on the head.

http://www.christadelphians.com/biblebasics/0...
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<quoted text>gonna call you aliar on this statement since the bible DOESNT SAY A SEED WAS PLACED IN MARYS WOMB AND LIKE THE DEVIL WORSHIPPER, THE WORD [SEED] THAT IS USED IN GENESIS IS A FIGURE OF SPEECH, NOTHING MORE.
SINCE YOU WORK IN A HOSPITAL, WHY DONT YOU GO TO YOUR OB/GYN SECTION AND ASK ANY DOCTOR IF A SPIRIT CAN GET A FLESHLY WOMAN PREGNANT, AND WHEN YOU DO THE WHOLE HOSPITAL WILL WONDER WHY HE IS LAUGHING SO HARD AT YOU.LOL
God created that flesh so threfore all things are possible with God.
It is well known YOU are a false prophet.

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<quoted text>for a person to CORRECT you doesnt take away from their Salvation and Christianity, and for you to try and silence them, DOES TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE.the Bible is clear that we are to help out those who are ignorant of What the Bible teaches.
even Jethro has enough carnal knowledge to know that God a Spirit, did not have intercourse with Mary and get her Pregnant, as you and PAD try to suggest that HE placed a[seed] in her womb, making Mary pregnant(not to mention the sdda cultist).
even the sperm of a man will not get a woman pregnant unless it fertilizes her egg.AND GOD HAS NO SPERM.
SOME DAY, SOME OF YOU MIGTH WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT WHAT GOD PLACED INTO HER WOMB WAS ALREADY FORMED AND REQUIRED NOTHING FROM MARY.
as I have said numerous times, if the egg of mary was used, then jesus was half man and half God.
it is a shame that many of the people on here are not able to see something as simple as this Birth.
AND UNLIKE OXBORN{PROBABLY}, I DO HAVE OVER 50 YEARS IN THE MEDICAL FIELD.
Catholics teach:
The aim of this article is to prove that the historical person, Jesus Christ, is really and truly God,--i.e. has the nature of God, and is a Divine person.

Person: A living human....It don't say "half human"!!!!

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<quoted text>I am very curious, Is there anyone that speaks the truth on here excepting you, of course?lol
There are many.....even you, once in a while, will speak the truth that is supported by Scripture!!!

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<quoted text>and horse apples to you ox. this is figuritive, not literal.
and it speaks of the warfare between jesus and the devil
A dim light doeth flicker at yonder tunnel end!!!!

"it speaks of the warfare between jesus and the devil"....

There ain't nothing figurative about the warfare between Christ and the devil.....that is as real as the Alamo in San Antonio..

Your problem is you have no idea of the meaning of "seed" as used in that verse....

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then all horse have to be woman..hi hi hi..jecam
weatlem you have corn too

kikiriki and koko is there

i drove away my som book long time ago
but i need think about that
they have in administration what they will do
as i can see they control boq bank befor train as well on george terace..now everything is mine in reality not they hideeeeeeeeeee
yes they are

i have too look proply be very carefull

as i know they don't liked be hurt..as they always think they are in right

who give you over 7 billions kids..
o well why mothers not worthy according this society..see

did they respect life
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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<quoted text>only to morons and prosimians such as yourself.lol
like you just posted, the devil aint got no [seed].lol.
so it must be figurative.
007
Your words: THE WORD [SEED] THAT IS USED IN GENESIS IS A FIGURE OF SPEECH, NOTHING MORE.

That is as moronic as it gets....

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Thanks for proving me 110% correct...quote:so it must be figurative.

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The Promise in Eden
The pathetic story of man's fall is related in Genesis chapter 3. The serpent was cursed for misquoting God's word and tempting Eve to disobey it. The man and woman were punished for their disobedience. But a ray of hope comes into this dark picture when God says to the serpent:-
"I will put enmity (hatred, opposition) between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (the woman's seed) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel" (Gen. 3:15).
This verse is highly concentrated; we need to carefully define the various things involved. A "seed" means a descendant or child, but it can also refer to the people associated with the particular "seed". We will see later that Abraham's "seed" was Jesus (Gal. 3:16), but that if we are "in" Jesus by baptism, then we also are the seed (Gal. 3:27-29). This word "seed" also refers to the idea of sperm (1 Pet. 1:23); so a true seed will have the characteristics of its father.
The seed of the serpent must therefore refer to that which has the family likeness of the serpent:-
distorting God's Word
lying
leading others into sin.
We will see in Study 6 that there is not a literal person doing this, but that within us there is
"our old man" of the flesh (Rom. 6:6)
"the natural man" (1 Cor. 2:14)
"the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts" (Eph. 4:22)
"the old man with his deeds" (Col. 3:9).
This "man" of sin within us is the Biblical "devil", the seed of the serpent.
The seed of the woman was to be a specific individual - "thou (the serpent's seed) shalt bruise his heel" (Gen. 3:15). This person was to permanently crush the serpent's seed, i.e. sin - "it shall bruise thy head". Hitting a snake on the head is a death blow - seeing its brain is in its head. The only person who is a likely candidate for the seed of the woman must be the Lord Jesus:-
Jesus Christ, who hath (by the cross) abolished death (and therefore the power of sin - Rom. 6:23), and hath brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel" (2 Tim. 1:10).
"God sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh", i.e. the Biblical devil, the seed of the serpent (Rom. 8:3).
Jesus "was manifested to take away our sins"(1 Jn. 3:5).
"Thou shalt call his name Jesus (meaning "Saviour"):for he shall save his people from their sins" (Mt. 1:21).
Jesus was literally "made of a woman" (Gal. 4:4) as the son of Mary, although God was his Father. Thus in this sense, too, he was the seed of the woman, although provided by God in a way no other man has been. This seed of the woman was to be temporarily wounded by sin, the seed of the serpent - "thou shalt bruise his heel" (Gen. 3:15). A snake bite on the heel is normally a temporary wound, compared to the permanence of hitting the snake on the head. Many figures of speech have Biblical roots: "knock it on the head" (i.e. completely stop or end something) is probably based on this prophecy of Jesus hitting the snake on the head.
http://www.christadelphians.com/biblebasics/0...
"This verse is highly concentrated; we need to carefully define the various things involved. A "seed" means a descendant or child, but it can also refer to the people associated with the particular "seed"....

The definition of seed, in this verse, makes no mention of people associated with the particular "seed"....

If you want to look at "seed" in other Scripture...say on in a new thread...will be glad to discuss the matter with you...

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this word (Greek ekklsia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original. Jesusí church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God....
The Catholic Church is a denomination.....No denominations are named in Scripture....
You have "no idea" as to what you are talking about OX which doesn't surprise ANY of us Catholics who know the TRUTH of TRUE Church and Biblical History. There is "only one" possibility as to what the TRUE interpretation is, since the Greek word for Church here is "ecclesia" which refers to the visible, hierarchical and authoritative Church. In "no way" does the Greek translation refer to an invisible, ethereal body of believers, loosely connected by faith, in the Bible alone.... This translation "parallels" Acts 2 in which ALL of the Churches that Paul writes to (beginning with the 1st Church at Antioch--ALL were hierarchical with Bishops, priests, elders and deacons (again Acts 2). Jesus inititated, established and formed His One True (Universal-Catholic Church as an "authoritative Church" with Peter given that authority by Jesus Himself Matthew 16:13-21 to lead His One True Church until HE returns for the second time ("to you Peter, I give the keys to the kingdom of heaven". EVERY ONE of the Churches, in the letters of Paul that he writes,(Ephesus, Galatia, Thessalonica, Corinth, Colossus, Philippi,(were ALL directed by the Apostles with Bishops, priests, elders and deacons (again) Acts 2. Paul re-confirms the TRUE STATED words of Jesus and His One True Church in I Tim 3:15 when he calls "the Church (not the bible alone) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH,....Paul is in "no way" referring to a group of individual Christians (who were criticized by Paul himself in 1 Cor 1:10 for their arguing among themselves as to which leader they were following (Cephus, Paul,ect. in their dividing of the Body of Christ. Paul was referring to an authoritative, visible, hierarchical directed Church as the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.---Read the entire New Testament regarding Jesus' One True Church (which is referred to over 30 times..... 1st century Church History "debunks" your "personal editorialized (anti-catholic) opinion which is not only "bogus interpretation" of Jesus Christs One True Church, but also "debunks" your bible only "self made up" Church History.
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read fiction book you can find many things
ivica i baba marica with chocolate roof..

read child book too..

byyyyyyyyyyy

i been before more happy not any more
im very tired
in reality
they will used modern innovation..because of that you will think others not thinking..we can be old fashion or poor or childish still does meter..i hope you can find meaning..don't look grammatical..noooooooo

others use art
materialistic they use as architect but spiritually they used much more they going further./.

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