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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 703636 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Free Mind

Saint Petersburg, FL

#427473 Mar 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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My words "Since you are intent on showing the Word of God as fallible"...does not mean I am saying the Word of God is fallible..you are...I am only giving you ammo to further your cause..
Here is a other...all Catholics say that the Bible says Christ was a sinner...they quote: For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God..
Say waaaaa?

Many have problems with what Jesus said in the Bible. Why does that surprise you?

In the age of modern medicine, are you not able to make yourself a eunuch as Jesus suggested?

You certainly reject Jesus' clear and concise advice on how to follow him perfectly.

It's a shell game for the make-it-easy-for-me, pretend Christians.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427474 Mar 14, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
Long before the council at Carthage (circa 378 AD), there were copies floating around of all the various letters and books that would become the recognized Canon. From what I understand, most books were accepted and used in all places since at least 100 AD. The other books, Hebrews, 2 & 3 John, 2 Peter, Jude, James and Revelation, were more debatable so it is likely that those were not as universally copied. The relative merits of virtually every book had been debated and studied. From the descriptions of the early church writers, there did not seem to be any lack of copies. What possibly was lacking and which the Carthage council helped established was a formal consensus of what should and should not be included. Given human nature for what it normally is, the fact that they reached a conclusion at all is probably a testament to the lack of real contenders. If there was any real disagreement, there would have probably been a schism in the church. There wasn't any such schism in that time period, so it is probably safe to say that they were pretty much in agreement on what was going to be included even before the council met.
So, what happened between the last prophet and the wide distribution of copies is hard to say. We have no evidence that there was any time gap. If John lived to around 100 AD as some claim and copies of the gospels and Pauline letters were in circulation at that time, then it would seem that there was no time in which the church was without guidance. There could have been prophets that outlasted John. It is also possible that all the books of the Bible were in wide circulation prior to John's death. Without evidence to the contrary, I am left to assume that Paul's prophesy about the end of prophesy in I Corinthians 13 came true.
Working for the Lord says......The other books, Hebrews, 2 & 3 John, 2 Peter, Jude, James and Revelation, were more debatable so it is likely that those were not as universally copied.

Michael says......Why would these books be disallowed if they too claimed to be inspired by God, and these books were actually written as the others were, that were accepted about someone in the churches view who actually lived.

If the books were about a legend or someone the church couldn't substantiate whether he lived or not I could understand.

If we have catholic church leaders today and all throughout history that have made big blunders, what makes you believe no blunders were made 1700 years ago?

Its all about the churches agenda.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427475 Mar 14, 2013
Stan-an-Ollie wrote:
<quoted text>Stanley says to let you know that sometime in the not-to-distant future...(when you consider the age of our Pale Blue Dot to be 3.86 billion years old)....you will be informed of your confirmation of your seat on your assigned BLACK Bus to take your one-way trip to your ultimate party.
Your BLACK Bus driver is already assigned along with his 4 minders.
Keep it up and you might even get a window seat. That would really be interesting for you, never mind who is sitting in the next seat to you.
Stanley and I will be on hand at the BLACK Bus statation to see that you are 'taken' on board. Your mommy will be of NO help.
Go Figure.
I would be very careful while you are on hand at the bus station. The ones already aboard might just grab you and put you in the drivers seat.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427476 Mar 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Since you are intent on showing the Word of God as being fallible.....I have some ammo for you...
John the Baptist said the opposite!!! Quote: And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
....Heaven, hell, prophecy, demon possession, sacrifice, initiation by baptism, BY A BAPTIZER, communion with God through a holy meal, monotheism, others with persons of God, immortality of the soul, eternal salvation, and many other "Christian" ideas all belonged to earlier, older Pagan faiths. They were simply part of ancient Mediterranean culture. Along with miracle working sons of God, born of a mortal woman, they were common elements of pre-Christian Pagan religion. Mithras had 'em. So did Dionysus, Attis, Osiris, and Orpheus. And more.

John Baptist story is just one in a long line of the same stories that came 1,000 years before.

Christianity is just the modern day rollout of what came before. The only reason it continues today is family-hand-me-down-tradition. INDOCTRINATION. If mom and dad are protestant/catholics so will be the kids, as it carries on to the next generation.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427477 Mar 14, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Since not only the bible is full of fakes, lies and errors, the hole catholic church is full crimes! Jesus may have existed 2000 years ago as a normal human being! The religions are all fictions no more!
Jewish clerics disagree with meanings and terminology of catholic theology. Catholics disagree with meanings and terminoloy of protestants theology.

Doesn't that mean ORGANIZED religion, isn't organized at all?
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#427478 Mar 14, 2013
hojo wrote:
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2000 years of PROVEN, RECORDED AND VERIFIED "TRUTH" of the biblical and historical "validated-facts" of Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church is "NOT" a joke----but you and your other 42,000 contradicting "bible only" (editorialist) "relative truth" Christians
who "make-up" your own Church History, are showing ALL of us Catholics, who are the TRUE FOLLOWERS of Jesus Christ---that "the joke", has,is, and will CONTINUE to be---- on you!!!
Try an convince me that you and your Pope don't put Mary before God . Clearly the Pope put's Mary above God

In his first morning as supreme pontiff and leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics, Pope Francis visited the Roman basilica dedicated to the Virgin Mary, slipping in a side entrance for a few moments of private prayer.

The stop at the fifth-century Basilica of St. Mary Major, was not a surprise. Minutes after his election, Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York recalled, Francis asked his fellow cardinals if they would be willing to delay a celebratory Mass at the Sistine Chapel on Thursday so that he could first make a brief foray to “visit the icon of the holy mother

With the election of Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina as the 266th pope, the cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church have broken Europe's long stranglehold on the papacy.

Accompanied by prelates, Francis went to the domed Pauline Chapel at 8 a.m.(3 a.m. Eastern), knelt before the Madonna Protectress of the Roman People icon of the Virgin Mary and then sat in the front pew for five minutes of silent prayer, said Monsignor Emilio Silvestrini.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#427479 Mar 14, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>You are absolutley Cireect. It was a roman catholic prophecy from one opf your own..ROTFLOL
Ah no Mr. Koresh. It is not a 'Roman Catholic' Prophecy. Its a Prophecy given by a Catholic. Its not spread, taught or endorsed by the Church.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427480 Mar 14, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>a woman has a better chance.it's all phoney posturing.trying to make themselves not look predjudice,which we know they are,the way women are treated within the church screams predjudice.
If there was a female Pope and 114 female Cardinals, guaranteed none of these women would ever coverup, or allow anyone in their jurisdiction to harm a child.

Pope Francis better hit the ground running because these scandals just keep piling up.



MICHAEL

Canada

#427481 Mar 14, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I'll try and not sound mean.
Say, from what I'm reading about Pope Francis, its going to be tough for you guys to hate this man..
He refused a vehicle perk, driver, house and chef for being ArchBishop of Buenos Aries. Opting instead to take the bus to work, live in a small apartment and cook his own food - which he bought by himself from the local market down the street..
If Pope Francis said he likes playing the slots at Las Vegas I am sure you would twist the story to make him sound positive.

Since: Mar 13

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#427482 Mar 14, 2013
Truth wrote:
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There is NO original sin....we DO NOT INHERIT SIN from anyone...
Wrong.

Stanley says that you are wrong because you are a LIAR.

Go Figure

Since: Mar 13

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#427483 Mar 14, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Scripture plainly teaches that sin is not inherited.
Every person is responsible for his own conduct.
Jesus is the only sinless one.....
Who said that sin was inherited???

Did Stanley and I say that sin was inherited???

Your brain is misfiring and you are full of schidt to the eyeballs.

Since: Mar 13

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#427484 Mar 14, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Ezekiel 18:20
20 The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.
Romans 14:12
12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.
Well then,

you take a guess and guess what color bus are you going to be assigned to.

Will you get assigned to a BLACK Bus or will you be assigned to a WHITE Bus.

....maybe, just maybe you will be afforded a GREEN Bus.

Stanley says all this suspension must be driving you crazy as it has done so many others...before they croaked.

Go Figure.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427485 Mar 14, 2013
......By what criteria can we decide what ancient godman stories were new and original, and what ancient godman stories were myths built up from the religious ideas of their day?


..... When Osiris is said to bring his believers eternal life in Egyptian Heaven, and indescribable glory of God, we understand that as a myth.

.....When christians claim Jesus said something similar, christians understand that as the truth.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#427486 Mar 14, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Opting instead to take the bus to work, live in a small apartment and cook his own food - which he bought by himself from the local market down the street..
Wow!! Pope Frank is somethin else! He is opting to do what thousands of people do ever day.

Since: Mar 13

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#427487 Mar 14, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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If Pope Francis said he likes playing the slots at Las Vegas I am sure you would twist the story to make him sound positive.
.....and this coming from an Idiot who has never been positive in his life.

Except that is, when he hoists his arse to accept the next overSized dildo that's dipped in vaseline and sprinkled with coarse sand and salt.

Stanley says that you are despicable in every sense of the word and you are assured a seat on one of our BLACK Buses when you are 'called up' to make your one-way trip to your ultimate party.

When you get such a call, there's 'No Way Out'.

Go Figure.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#427488 Mar 14, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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If there was a female Pope and 114 female Cardinals, guaranteed none of these women would ever coverup, or allow anyone in their jurisdiction to harm a child.
Pope Francis better hit the ground running because these scandals just keep piling up.
Wrong.

You are a LIAR.

Stanley says that you are also a 'prick'.

Go Figure.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#427489 Mar 14, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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I would be very careful while you are on hand at the bus station. The ones already aboard might just grab you and put you in the drivers seat.
Once on the BLACK Bus, people like you have No Way Out.

Stanley says that its already been explained that the Drivers on ALL BLACK Buses have been seconded from 'ol Scratch himself together with 4 minders to keep passengers like you in your seats until you are pulled out into the Aisles to have your lower extremities given a 'root canal'.

Bon Voyage.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#427490 Mar 14, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Our name does suggest it! Universal.
"To all the Churches of Christ"
Corinth, Rome, Jerusalem, Antioch, Ephesus, Galatia, Syria, Colossae, and many more.
The Apostles set up the the Catholic (Universal) Church.
One of the Disciples of the Apostles, Ignatius of Antioch, was the first person recorded using the title, but most likely not the first person to use it.
Did the Apostle John tell Ignatius to believe this:
"wherever the Bishop appears, there let the people be, as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful to Baptize or give communion without the consent of the Bishop. Therefore whatever has his approval is pleasing to God, Thus will be safe and valid"
The name "Roman Catholic Church" is an invention by Protestant England in the 17th century, because they considered their new Angelican church to also be Catholic, and wanted to appear equal to the real Church, by giving the followers of the Bishop of Rome a title. Unfortunately, the name stuck, and the Holy Catholic Church uses it on occasion these days too, for reasons I do not know.
I don't read about Ignatius in my Bible. I'm sure there's quite a bit we could learn about history and the like from Ignatius, but I have no evidence that the Holy Spirit preserved his writings or words as inspired of God.

Just a small or perhaps colossally huge correction: Christ set up the church. It is HIS. He is the head of it and there is no suggestion in scripture that each congregation should be anything but autonomous with the Word of God as their only guide. That's where the church of Catholics ultimately begins to fail, scripturally speaking.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#427491 Mar 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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It's a good start to ask questions. Way to go!
If only you could answer, right?
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#427492 Mar 14, 2013
Robert Dye wrote:
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It is not so much un-Biblical as it is illogical.
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In saying you follow "the Bible alone," you assume a fact which, by stating "Bible alone," you have formally rejected.
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It is contradiction in terms.
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Rob
Illogical? What suggestion can you make that God's Word was not complete as written in the scriptures and that it continues on and possibly changes with men beyond the scripture we're provided?

How can someone think that the message of God continues on through a Pope that was not elected unanimously the first time? Is there inspiration in this Pope's leadership and within your church or not?

I find inspiration within the church in scripture.

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