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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 678643 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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MICHAEL

Canada

#427201 Mar 12, 2013
Stan-an-Ollie wrote:
<quoted text>Stanley seems to think (and he usually things right) that you are wrong 'that there are many people that you know who are gay'...is just a line of generalities which means a line of bullschidt.
Heterosexuals know very few Queers and avoid their cliques like the plague. If you were to ask ALL non Queers in here if they partook of Queers companies and public esstablishments, you would get a resounding NO.
Remember the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ.."if a man layeth with a man, it would be better if that man tied a millstone around his neck and cast himself into the sea".
I agree with Stanley on this one.
I will bet your mother is a lesbian. She just hasn't told you yet. Sorry for the bad news, but somebody had to tell it.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427202 Mar 12, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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<quoted text>
The Incarnate Son of God, with the same Divinity as God, said "When you see me...you see God", lived on this earth some thirty-three years. He was crucified!!!!
His gift of Salvation is based on belief....not proof. He was "up front" about it..
Quote: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
From what you are saying, I would bring fans and lots of Kool-aid!!!!
He had 33 years to convince everyone that he was the son of God and yet still, nobody believed him. Thats not good PR work!

Tricks, and miracles didn't convince anyone of his power, why? What was the purpose in the NT to report miracles if they had no affect on his outcome?

Remember it was a tiny crowd that determined this mans fate. The crowd had a choice 50/50, Jesus or Barabas. Flip a coin, red or black, even or odd. Not a very good way to determines someones fate.

Just a very short time before the crucifixion, scriptures claim this man Jesus was loved and followed by all. He had to preach from a fishing boat off shore in the Red sea, because the crowds of followers was so large there was no room for him on land to preach. Jesusmania!

..What happened in that very short period of time that changed everyones mind, between everyone loving Jesus to everyone hating Jesus? Are some pages from the NT missing?

...makes no common sense!



“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#427203 Mar 12, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>

FYI - It absolutely is NOT hypocritical for a Christian to quote The Bible while ignoring NON-canonical religious texts. But somehow you are trying to make it so.
Skip the non-Christian texts - I wasn't referring to them. Breathe.....

As for skipping the non-canonical texts like GoThomas, which is only sayings by Jesus, you do disregard them and those are also recorded, so you are still a hypocrite.
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Again - why would a Christian quote a book such as the Qur'an or Book of Mormon when those books have NOTHING to do with Christianity? Sounds like you didn't actually read what I wrote - at the very least, your logic is, well, non-existent.
You should be quoting Jesus. I'm not 100% sure, but belief in Jesus ("Isa") is required to be Muslim.

Looks like they have met the qualifier as Oxbow designates, "believe in Jesus".

Maybe you should use his teachings. After all, they too were approved by men to use (Islam), which does fir your "recorded" scenario as well.

What exactly is your point, because you keep voiding it out, by proving by your own words it was an invalid statement.

You really don't understand your religion or others, huh? Sounds like you were handed a Bible and then said to, I'll lead you in the Way.

It didn't work, did it?
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
My post had nothing to do with Christians believing NON-canonical texts, but you seem to want to make it so. Therefore, I shall respond in kind and assign one arbitrary *strike* to you, too - as if keeping score using sports metaphor has anything to do with this.
Then don't say you believe in Jesus, when clearly you don't believe in ALL of Jesus.

Oh, I'm keeping "score", you can count on that. FYI - I will call you out on your false assertions, just so that you don't lead others astray from gaining, this thing we refer to as "salvation".

If you want to insult me - please do it through viable and supportive information, because "what comes out of your mouth" will surely be what I will agree to or disagree.

I truly hope you aren't thin-skinned.

:o)
guest wrote:
<quoted text>NO. I do NOT use only NT (more accurately called Greek Scripture). If you have read my posts you would see that - so asking your question is of no real or practical significance. Furthermore, quoting non-canonical texts to support Christianity, would be ... un-Christian ... kind o' like what Catholics do when they quote the
Pope.
No I didn't read those posts you say you expressed this "belief" in. Do you have the post number, because I will go look for it and read it.

Man, throwing out the beliefs of men, again? Where does "God" say that any non-canonical text with Christian origins is "un-Christian" to quote?

Why do you follow those men who have specifically described the belief that you believe?

IMO - you should have researched it before joining up and thinking it is all true.

BTW - that would be Self.

Move past the words and understand their meanings.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427204 Mar 12, 2013
Stan-an-Ollie wrote:
<quoted text>Stanley seems to think (and he usually things right) that you are wrong 'that there are many people that you know who are gay'...is just a line of generalities which means a line of bullschidt.
Heterosexuals know very few Queers and avoid their cliques like the plague. If you were to ask ALL non Queers in here if they partook of Queers companies and public esstablishments, you would get a resounding NO.
Remember the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ.."if a man layeth with a man, it would be better if that man tied a millstone around his neck and cast himself into the sea".
I agree with Stanley on this one.
If you could combine the brain knowledge of Stanley and Ollie together you still wouldn't come up with a working brain.

Sorry for the bad news! but the truth must be told.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#427205 Mar 12, 2013
Stan-an-Ollie wrote:
Stanley seems to think (and he usually things right) that you are wrong 'that there are many people that you know who are gay'...is just a line of generalities which means a line of bullschidt.
Heterosexuals know very few Queers and avoid their cliques like the plague. If you were to ask ALL non Queers in here if they partook of Queers companies and public esstablishments, you would get a resounding NO.
Remember the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ.."if a man layeth with a man, it would be better if that man tied a millstone around his neck and cast himself into the sea".
I agree with Stanley on this one.

Jesus said no such thing...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#427206 Mar 12, 2013
who="MICHAEL"
Wouldn't it be a lot easier if God just appeared to EVERYONE once in awhile? No need for the red tape of the adam and eve story tainting every unborn human with a sin they never committed themselves. No need to for Jesus to come and save the day, no need for christianity that only represents about 20% of our world population.
I am sure if God would appear it would certainly help his credability along to all those non believers.
God could do that because he is God..........no God in sight yet!

You've been disillusioned by men...don't give up on God. HE CARES.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#427207 Mar 12, 2013
guest wrote:
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explain to me - like I'm a five year old - why NON-canonical text has anything to do with Christianity. By your loose logic I could quote the Stock Market ...
Finally a question that has substance. Thanks for asking it.

But with you comparing the NYSE with spirituality and salvation, only shows how green you are and shows how much you don't know about the religion you tout.

Now, since you aren't a 5-yr old, I'm not going to talk to you like one, okay. But if you are that ignorant of the non-canonical texts that I would have to talk to you as if you were a 5-yr old, then maybe you aren't quite ready to even understand what I would say. I know a 5-yr old wouldn't.

But with you asking me to "dumb it down", you indirectly made a point and does give credence to why Jesus spoke in parables, because he already knew that most people wouldn't understand him, if he spoke directly. I might add that in GoThomas, you'll find this directness of his teachings.

"why NON-canonical text has anything to do with Christianity."

If what you say above actually means, "Why do the non-canonical texts have anything to do with Christianity", then I can answer it with:
- Most of the non-canon texts were written before 325 CE, thus eligible to be part of the "Constantine Bible". Therefore, since they were available, including GoJudas (spoke about by Iraneaus in 180 CE in Against Heresies)
- GoThomas has been dated earlier than GoMark
- the earliest museum bibles both have the short GoMark ending, thus, the resurrection is not recorded. Which suggests - as in the non-canonical texts (Nag Hammadi Library)- that there isn't a raising in bodily form, but a description of a spiritual transcendence that occurs. Jesus - "it is done" = that 'salvation' from the material world to a spiritual one.

Now its your turn to dispute all that I've said or you can go research it first and then come back with a response.

Do you see how the Self challenges you?

Let honesty rule the path you travel and the dismay you find along the way, will just be lost forever once the astonishment reigns.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#427208 Mar 12, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
178 170
<quoted text>
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Only God and each individual can answer that question with regards each individual's true spiritual status......most Christians know this...
I like how you swerved away from answering a direct question about the Chinese. Nice try.

Why? Are you afraid to speak your opinion?

BTW - reverting back to that ol' "only God and individual know" routine, PROVES THAT NO RELIGION IS REQUIRED TO GAIN SALVATION!!

You say it yourself - through Self. Why don't you believe Jesus?

Now for a little schooling....
- Based upon your interpretation of "John", one can designate "believed in" to mean ALL of his teachings and not just a portion of his teachings, as you have. If you are to continue in John 3, and realize this verse follows your passage:
21“But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”

You'll realize that Jesus does not make any judgments, but plainly states that it is required of the individual [action of Self] to take the appropriate action "so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God."

Lookie-there.....Jesus reflecting that "deeds" are only "cleaned" by "God" and not by himself.

Darn it - I shouldn't have said that, huh?

Too late.

Self. Jesus spoke of it, yet you refuse to accept it as truth.

*sighs*

I wonder if "guest" is beginning to understand......hmmmmm....

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#427209 Mar 12, 2013
200 185
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
If God didn't like me very much he could inflict a terrible disease upon me, or make me walk out in front of a speeding bus, as has happened to thousands of others.
I'm Still here and enjoying my life to the fullest, and I know that bothers you immensely!
A belief can never be the actual truth, for a belief to become the actual truth wouldn't make it a belief anymore.
Everyone of every belief says the same as you. That they are the enlightened ones.
Jewish clerics claim that catholics interpret much of the Old and New testament incorrectly. Catholics claim that protestants interpret the Old and New testament incorrectly.
Will the real winner please stand up!!
From what you are saying, I would bring fans and lots of Kool-aid!!!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#427210 Mar 12, 2013
202
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
He had 33 years to convince everyone that he was the son of God and yet still, nobody believed him. Thats not good PR work!
Tricks, and miracles didn't convince anyone of his power, why? What was the purpose in the NT to report miracles if they had no affect on his outcome?
Remember it was a tiny crowd that determined this mans fate. The crowd had a choice 50/50, Jesus or Barabas. Flip a coin, red or black, even or odd. Not a very good way to determines someones fate.
Just a very short time before the crucifixion, scriptures claim this man Jesus was loved and followed by all. He had to preach from a fishing boat off shore in the Red sea, because the crowds of followers was so large there was no room for him on land to preach. Jesusmania!
..What happened in that very short period of time that changed everyones mind, between everyone loving Jesus to everyone hating Jesus? Are some pages from the NT missing?
...makes no common sense!
Tripe..."He had 33 years to convince everyone that he was the son of God and yet still, nobody believed him. Thats not good PR work!"
Free Mind

Tampa, FL

#427211 Mar 12, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
192
<quoted text>
From the NABre pope approved Bible:
Church: this word (Greek ekkl&#275;sia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original.
Jesus’ church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God.
10-4. Assembly at the Mt.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#427212 Mar 12, 2013
208 178 170
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I like how you swerved away from answering a direct question about the Chinese. Nice try.
Why? Are you afraid to speak your opinion?
BTW - reverting back to that ol' "only God and individual know" routine, PROVES THAT NO RELIGION IS REQUIRED TO GAIN SALVATION!!
You say it yourself - through Self. Why don't you believe Jesus?
Now for a little schooling....
- Based upon your interpretation of "John", one can designate "believed in" to mean ALL of his teachings and not just a portion of his teachings, as you have. If you are to continue in John 3, and realize this verse follows your passage:
21“But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”
You'll realize that Jesus does not make any judgments, but plainly states that it is required of the individual [action of Self] to take the appropriate action "so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God."
Lookie-there.....Jesus reflecting that "deeds" are only "cleaned" by "God" and not by himself.
Darn it - I shouldn't have said that, huh?
Too late.
Self. Jesus spoke of it, yet you refuse to accept it as truth.
*sighs*
I wonder if "guest" is beginning to understand......hmmmmm....
You don't even know the definition of "believe".....so you really cannot be expected to know much about anything else....
Free Mind

Tampa, FL

#427213 Mar 12, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
He had 33 years to convince everyone that he was the son of God and yet still, nobody believed him. Thats not good PR work!
Tricks, and miracles didn't convince anyone of his power, why? What was the purpose in the NT to report miracles if they had no affect on his outcome?
Remember it was a tiny crowd that determined this mans fate. The crowd had a choice 50/50, Jesus or Barabas. Flip a coin, red or black, even or odd. Not a very good way to determines someones fate.
Just a very short time before the crucifixion, scriptures claim this man Jesus was loved and followed by all. He had to preach from a fishing boat off shore in the Red sea, because the crowds of followers was so large there was no room for him on land to preach. Jesusmania!
..What happened in that very short period of time that changed everyones mind, between everyone loving Jesus to everyone hating Jesus? Are some pages from the NT missing?
...makes no common sense!
Yes, parts of the NT are missing.

The Catholics lost portions.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#427214 Mar 12, 2013
211
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
10-4. Assembly at the Mt.
You look really good with egg all over your face!!!! It becomes you....
truth

Perth, Australia

#427215 Mar 12, 2013
they serving devil pavle savle davle

nothing to do with Jesus or his mother ..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#427217 Mar 12, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
He had 33 years to convince everyone that he was the son of God and yet still, nobody believed him. Thats not good PR work!
Tricks, and miracles didn't convince anyone of his power, why? What was the purpose in the NT to report miracles if they had no affect on his outcome?
Remember it was a tiny crowd that determined this mans fate. The crowd had a choice 50/50, Jesus or Barabas. Flip a coin, red or black, even or odd. Not a very good way to determines someones fate.
Just a very short time before the crucifixion, scriptures claim this man Jesus was loved and followed by all. He had to preach from a fishing boat off shore in the Red sea, because the crowds of followers was so large there was no room for him on land to preach. Jesusmania!
..What happened in that very short period of time that changed everyones mind, between everyone loving Jesus to everyone hating Jesus? Are some pages from the NT missing?
...makes no common sense!
LIAR.

You are fulla schidt to the eyeballs.

There are 1.3 billion Roman Catholics 'living' that believe in Him never mind the countles 'billions' that have come and died in His Faith over the past 2000 years.

In addition, there is another 3.6 billion Christians of other denominations.

By the way, the large crowds were NOT made aware in the late hours of the night by the Jewish heirarchy who wanted to try Jesus with as much secrecy as possible. Those on hand were paid to show their displeasure with Him.

....just like you...if the government shouts out 'free handouts'...you are one of the first to rush to it.

Meanwhile, Stanley says that you are in for a Real big surprise when you see whose sitting next to you on your assigned seat on your assigned BLACK Bus.

Go Figure.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#427218 Mar 12, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
If you could combine the brain knowledge of Stanley and Ollie together you still wouldn't come up with a working brain.
Sorry for the bad news! but the truth must be told.
While Ollie and I admit that we far from being Rocket Scientists, at least we don't have a pissPot brain and go around with a purple condom hanging out of our arseHoles like you for the past 6 weeks.

By the way, Stanley has it on good authority that your mother sucked pigs.

Just down the road. On the corner of Slut'sLane. As for your daddy, well that cockRoach ran off with the headLice that was found on your pillow after he gave you a farewell rootCanal in your rearEnd.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#427219 Mar 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Stan-an-Ollie wrote:
Stanley seems to think (and he usually things right) that you are wrong 'that there are many people that you know who are gay'...is just a line of generalities which means a line of bullschidt.
Heterosexuals know very few Queers and avoid their cliques like the plague. If you were to ask ALL non Queers in here if they partook of Queers companies and public esstablishments, you would get a resounding NO.
Remember the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ.."if a man layeth with a man, it would be better if that man tied a millstone around his neck and cast himself into the sea".
I agree with Stanley on this one.
Jesus said no such thing...
Stanley says to tell him what Jesus said and he will issue an addenda.
truth

Perth, Australia

#427220 Mar 12, 2013
you are lover of black smoke now you are smokers
did you
3xkingdom
-flower flora tree
-animals bird fish
-humans
now why i am liar about what/
cija ce biti parica
can be para-money
paraevil

ko drzi/
i tko odrzaje/\
truth

Perth, Australia

#427221 Mar 12, 2013
you not tell me about kucice=house letters=alphabet
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