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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 654406 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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MICHAEL

Canada

#427132 Mar 12, 2013
My mistake Venice Italy.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#427133 Mar 12, 2013
New Age writes:
You wrote - "When you blatantly ignore Jesus' words that WERE RECORDED,"
Sounding sort of hypocritical, aren't you?
If you take what is recorded only in the Bible, then YOU are blatantly ignoring non-canonical written texts (recorded).

Do you use only the NT to come to this decision of yours?
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
You can follow all the non-canonical written texts you want. Have at it, there are plenty to choose from:
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The Qur'an
The Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants
The Kitab-i-Iqan
The Zend-Avesta
The Rigveda
.. there are many more and probably all inclusive with the "New Age" people.
but me? hypocritical? I don't think so. I WON'T follow the pope, I follow Christ instead - and that is NOT hypocritical.
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What Catholics don't understand is this: If you want to call yourself a Christian, you gotta do what Christ said to do. nothing more. You don't get to make it up as you go along. Which is what he Catholic church does, while accusing everyone else of doing that very thing.
The world of Christianity is so confused BECAUSE of the Catholic church, and trying to extract themselves from the RC church has led to the confusion. There are MANY traditions of men that people have a difficult time giving up ... but I think the further away one gets from the Catholic church ... the closer to Christianity you become - starting with, "Call no man father."
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AGAIN!... right out of the starting gate -
they
disobey
Christ.
By going AGAINST the direct words of Christ, they show that they are not FOLLOWERS of Christ.
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Stop signs say *STOP* for a reason. It is a DIRECT COMMAND. IF you read the sign and PROCEED anyway, you could lose your life and cause the death of others in an accident.
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Likewise, Jesus said, "Call no man your father." FOR A REASON. It is a DIRECT COMMAND - if you ignore his words and do it anyway.... you could lose your life.
My post to you had nothing to do with the Pope, but you seemed to make it so. Strike one.

THis is the question I asked, that you didn't answer. This is a second chance for you...

"Do you use only the NT to come to this decision of yours?"

Thanks!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#427134 Mar 12, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
AGAIN!... right out of the starting gate -
they
disobey
Christ.
By going AGAINST the direct words of Christ, they show that they are not FOLLOWERS of Christ.
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...and yet you do also when you don't utilize the non-canonical texts.

If you need me to spell it out for you - I will.

You admonish others for not following Jesus, but you don't as well, when it comes to the non-canonical teachings by Jesus.

So yes, you are a hypocrite. This above statement says it all.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#427136 Mar 12, 2013
Mary is as much a virgin evermore as is the Pink Rabbit!!!!

The angel of the Lord told Joseph to take Mary as his wife....

Quote:
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Scripture leaves no doubt that Joseph took Mary unto his wife...

Quote: Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

But....the Catholics insist that God got it wrong...again!!!! That Mary is still a virgin ...even though she had several children after she gave birth to Christ!!!!!
MICHAEL

Canada

#427137 Mar 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes and the sinless one that presented Grace... The author and finisher of our faith...has no one that is comparable to His position.
The heavenly Father personally gave account of His Only begotten Son on two occasions...
Old Testament prophecy
Psa_2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me,
--> Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
___
Mat_3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Mat_17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Mar_1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Mar_9:7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
Luk_3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Luk_9:35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
--> in a parable Jesus referenced Himself as God's beloved Son
Luk_20:13 Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence him when they see him.
Also at Jacob's well..Jesus claimed the position of Messiah
Joh 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that--> Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
Joh 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he/Messiah.
That any one would attempt to place a corruptible human as His representative on earth,(pope or whatever) is ludicrousness...
He can only only represented to Man by the Holy Ghost...the third person in the GOD-HEAD.
No other entity qualifies.
___
He's my friend and He is my brther, even though He is my King
I love Him more than any other ...More than any thing
He alone is my strength, my shield ..Unto Him doth my Spirit yield
He alone is my hearts desire, an I long to worship Him.
Scripture and religion terminology and translations.

..... Jewish clerics often disagree with catholic clerics regarding the meanings of some of the scriptures, just as catholics disagree with protestants over the same issue of what they believe.

Can any one group claim with certainty, they are right?
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#427138 Mar 12, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
HOJO says.......then read the Catholic Catechism which will "open your eyes" to (even more TRUTH) that the Pope, the teachings of the Catholic Church.
Michael says......So why then do MOST roman catholics today not follow much of what is in the catechism or church teachings?
1) Millions of roman catholics are divorced, many living with new partners or remarried. The church says you cannot dissolve a sacrament, and being divorced with a live in partner is adultery.
2) MOST Roman catholics practice forms of birth control the church says is sinful. Yet the church screams about abortions because too many unwanted babies are born.
3) Every year more Roman Catholics claim that celebacy should be optional including thousands of clergy themselves. The church screams NO!
4) Groups of catholic women around the world today want to be equal to men in the church and be allowed to become clergy. The church screams never!
4) More roman catholic women per 1,000 in america have abortions than protestant women. Why?
4) According to the Roman Catholic Bishops conference in 2009 less than 1 in 4 Roman catholics in the USA attends mandatory sunday mass weekly. In western europe the numbers are much lower than that.
How many rule following catholics does that leave out of 1.168 Billion? Maybe 800,000.
Its very clear that today the catholic church is in chaos. Its obvious most catholics do not take the church seriously or they would follow all the rules they were indoctrinated into from childhood.
Roman catholicism is the secular arm of the Orthodox church, which followers more closely adhere to the rules/regulations.
You figure it out the (How, why, when) answers Micheal!---because YOU ARE THE ONE that keeps "digging up" all of these "exaggerated, disproportionate, overstated and mis-represented "phoney and fraudulent statistics!!!!----We, as Catholics, have all had to "put up" with the counterfeit, distorted and perverted quotes of yours such as Cardinals in Rome saying "elect me, elect me"-----or telling us that there are "liberal Cardinals in the U.S.--are just some of the typical BS (unending) comments that "comes out of your (motor-mouth)". Until you come to the TRUTH of Jesus Christ, his Salvation and the FULLNESS of the FAITH and the TRUTH that Our Lord gave us in His One True Catholic Church, your life will continue to just like the Prodigal Son in Luke 15:11 defiant, rebellious and full of antagonistic and heretical hate toward Jesus Christ and His Catholic Church!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#427139 Mar 12, 2013
129
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I've read and studied more scripture in my 35 years as a Protestant, in confirmation classes, Protestant High School, bible school, bible college and pre-theology seminary than "you will ever" read in a lifetime!.AND was that reason --why I came to the One TRUE FAITH and SALVATION of Jesus Christ, in and through HIS One (and only one) "historically and biblically PROVEN TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church.... Unfortunately, for you Free Mind, you and your "bible only buffoon (Catholic Bashers) choose to live in your (own oersonal) "distorted and heretical world" of condemnation and judgement of ANY and ALL Christians,(especially Catholics) who (KNOW THE TRUE) and refuse to "buy into" your "sola scriptura" --"relative truth" (what each person decides is truth) 42,000 contradicting Protestant denominations. God "NEVER HAS nor EVER WILL BE" the author of your bible only Protestant (personal opinion) confusion chaos and inconsistent beliefs!!!
You can read and study the Bible 35 more years, or until you are blue in the face...unless a change occurs in your spiritual life, you ain't never gonna git it!!!! The Bible tells you why...

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427140 Mar 12, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
Mary is as much a virgin evermore as is the Pink Rabbit!!!!
The angel of the Lord told Joseph to take Mary as his wife....
Quote:
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Scripture leaves no doubt that Joseph took Mary unto his wife...
Quote: Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
But....the Catholics insist that God got it wrong...again!!!! That Mary is still a virgin ...even though she had several children after she gave birth to Christ!!!!!
and how do you know what goes on in someones dreams is true?

..... Back in the day, people took orders from talking snakes and talking donkeys, heard voices and had demons in their heads, or saw ghost images. Aren't you glad we have medications for those afflicted today?
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#427141 Mar 12, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>

Its all political at the highest level, and everyday catholics haven't got a clue what jockeying is really going on.
These are historical times.
There is NOTHING political about it!!!!It is ALL SPIRITUALLY, PRAYFULLY, SUPERNATURALLY AND ECCLESIASTICALLY "discerning" ORIENTED!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#427142 Mar 12, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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<quoted text>
Horse puckett...
He teaches to pray to Mary...that is against Scripture..
He teaches to confess to a man....that is against Scripture..
He teaches that Mary was sinless..that is against Scripture..
He teaches to pray to dead "Saints"...that is against Scripture..
He teaches Mary's is a mediator...that is against Scripture...
He teaches Mary is a virgin evermore...that is against Scripture..
He teaches Mary is the mother of God...that is against Scripture..
I have many more....
~~~

THE WHOLE NINE YARDS IS A FACADE..

The ATTEMPT OF usurpation of the DYNASTY OF DAVID AND THE ESTABLISHING A PHYSICAL KINGDOM IN ROME...IS AGAINST GOD'S PLAN OF SALVATION..

There is no foundation laid for such a earthly kingdom in the Old or New Testament

GOD'S CHURCH IS SPIRITUAL ....IN THE HEARTS OF MEN ...(AND WILL BE)

UNTIL CHRIST RETURNS IN THE MILLENNIUM AND ESTABLISHES HIS THRONE IN

JERUSALEM.

Jesus words

Joh_18:36 Jesus answered,

My kingdom is not of this world:

if my kingdom were of this world,

then would my servants fight,

that I should not be delivered to the Jews:

but now is my kingdom not from hence.

So the earthly kingdom that the Roman Catholics are
even now attempting to elect a Prince is of no Spiritual value
to true Christianity.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#427143 Mar 12, 2013
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>I will present it to you yet again, The Word of God. So what will you place your faith in as the final autority?
The (TRUE INTERPRETATION of the "Word of God" that is proclaimed in and though Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church.---confirmed by Paul in I Tim 3:15 when he calls "The CHURCH (not the bible alone) as the Pillar, Pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH!!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#427144 Mar 12, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
There is NOTHING political about it!!!!It is ALL SPIRITUALLY, PRAYERFULLY, SUPERNATURALLY AND ECCLESIASTICALLY "discerning" ORIENTED!
~~~

In your wildest dreams..

Question .

Do you deny reality in the rest of you existence as you do about the

nation of Rome...

God said concerning nations

Isa 40:13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?

Isa 40:14 With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding?

Isa 40:15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.

It is almost and obscenity.... How blind you are...and insensitive to truth.

Jesus said about those such as yourself..

Mat_15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Luk_6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#427145 Mar 12, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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<quoted text>
You can read and study the Bible 35 more years, or until you are blue in the face...unless a change occurs in your spiritual life, you ain't never gonna git it!!!! The Bible tells you why...
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Yes--You've "actually got it right" for the first time Ox...... Jesus Christ, is the centrally oriented blueprint for my own as well as my families.. Catholic/Christian daily life... of faith, hope and personal Salvation.... My own personal spiritual growth is (each day) in that faith, at Daily Mass,the Word of God, the Eucharist (His true body and blood), the other Sacraments and in front of the blessed sacrament in daily adoration and prayer IN and THROUGH HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ)....... I/we as Catholics will ALL continue to put our trust in Jesus Christ, in His OWN SPOKEN AND STATED words (in the Gospel and at Daily Mass, worshipping Our Lord and receiving His true body and blood in the Eucharist in and through HIS One and only TRUE CHURCH ----You can continue to just "quote bible verses"!!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#427146 Mar 12, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You figure it out the (How, why, when) answers Micheal!---because YOU ARE THE ONE that keeps "digging up" all of these "exaggerated, disproportionate, overstated and mis-represented "phoney and fraudulent statistics!!!!----We, as Catholics, have all had to "put up" with the counterfeit, distorted and perverted quotes of yours such as Cardinals in Rome saying "elect me, elect me"-----or telling us that there are "liberal Cardinals in the U.S.--are just some of the typical BS (unending) comments that "comes out of your (motor-mouth)". Until you come to the TRUTH of Jesus Christ, his Salvation and the FULLNESS of the FAITH and the TRUTH that Our Lord gave us in His One True Catholic Church, your life will continue to just like the Prodigal Son in Luke 15:11 defiant, rebellious and full of antagonistic and heretical hate toward Jesus Christ and His Catholic Church!!
STAND BACK!! I THINK HE'S GONNA BLOW!!!

Hey hojo, maybe you should scale back on the caffeine?

*shrugs*

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#427147 Mar 12, 2013
140
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
and how do you know what goes on in someones dreams is true?
..... Back in the day, people took orders from talking snakes and talking donkeys, heard voices and had demons in their heads, or saw ghost images. Aren't you glad we have medications for those afflicted today?
You do bring the Word of God to life!!!!

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Free Mind

Tampa, FL

#427148 Mar 12, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
There is NOTHING political about it!!!!It is ALL SPIRITUALLY, PRAYFULLY, SUPERNATURALLY AND ECCLESIASTICALLY "discerning" ORIENTED!
Sure it is.....

They have a similar process in North Korea, only less mystical.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#427149 Mar 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
In your wildest dreams..
Question .
Do you deny reality in the rest of you existence as you do about the
nation of Rome...
Yes, Confrinting!! You've "got it ALL wrong" as usual, with is no surprise to ANY of us Catholics.... I/We as Catholics wiil continue to follow the TRUTH of Salvation, faith and hope in Jesus Christ, in and through His One (and ONLY) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church.
You can continue, as you ALWAYS do, to quote (OR MIS-QUOTED) bible verses, "making up" and adding your "own opinionated" (editorialized "distorted and heretical" comment!!
truth

Perth, Australia

#427150 Mar 12, 2013
your law is not my law
noooooooooooooooooo
necu=ucen u ljubavi skucen
then why p0eole suffering
because no love
ljubav nije ljubljena
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Free Mind

Tampa, FL

#427151 Mar 12, 2013
Speaking of North Korea.

Question: Name two countries that are not allowed full access to the USA banking system.

Answer:(1) North Korea,(2) Vatican City

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#427152 Mar 12, 2013
142
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
THE WHOLE NINE YARDS IS A FACADE..
The ATTEMPT OF usurpation of the DYNASTY OF DAVID AND THE ESTABLISHING A PHYSICAL KINGDOM IN ROME...IS AGAINST GOD'S PLAN OF SALVATION..
There is no foundation laid for such a earthly kingdom in the Old or New Testament
GOD'S CHURCH IS SPIRITUAL ....IN THE HEARTS OF MEN ...(AND WILL BE)
UNTIL CHRIST RETURNS IN THE MILLENNIUM AND ESTABLISHES HIS THRONE IN
JERUSALEM.
Jesus words
Joh_18:36 Jesus answered,
My kingdom is not of this world:
if my kingdom were of this world,
then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
but now is my kingdom not from hence.
So the earthly kingdom that the Roman Catholics are
even now attempting to elect a Prince is of no Spiritual value
to true Christianity.
Yep....

From Scripture...taint nothin' said bout any denomination!!!!

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

church: a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.

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