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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 596479 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

United States

#426434 Mar 8, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes there were other denominations before the Reformation & Luther. There was the numerous Orthodox and the Waldensians, Nazarenes, Galatian, and several others Catholics like to pretend never existed.
Today the only way to find the true church or faith of Jesus is with God's word. Find the ones keeping God's law including the right Sabbath and you narrow it way down. And there goes the RC.
Yes Socci, there were cults in every decade and there will always be in future decades.
If they were on the side of truth, Christ would see to it that His message is brought to more than the handful who belong to these separate groups.
Conspiracy Christianity has no place in Christianity. Christ did not start a secret hidden sect with so much confusion. I encourage you to splash some cold water on your face and walk away from the ignorant infested cult you're in.
Clay

United States

#426435 Mar 8, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
And in case you guys are wondering........NO,I AM NOT EFFEMINATE. In fact, people are shocked when they do discover that I'm gay.
I have had many females come on to me and when I reveal to them that I prefer man,they are totally shocked and start saying no way and I'm such a waste,LOL.
Not even my parents knew I was gay when I was growing up as a kid. I remember my father found out when he caught me in our basement bent over our pool table and being "invaded" by one of my friends that was a neighbor. He would have disowned me amd disinherited me had it not been for my mother who intervened for me.
Wow. That is some testimony Tony. Your father caught some guy putting his sexual organ in your digestive system!
At what point did you and that guy, think it was normal to put each others sexual organ in your digestive systems? Do you see why there is a certain level of pervertness about that? There is nothing natural about it in anyway.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426436 Mar 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
406 398
<quoted text>
Your info on the popes is further proof that the Catholics are not always following the Sacred Word of God...the Bible...
The Word of God does not teach celibacy one day, and the next day teach the opposite!!!!
Clerical celibacy is a discipline.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#426437 Mar 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
408
<quoted text>
Oxbow wrote:
The Bible does not teach that we are to believe in any "Church"...much less the Catholic Church.
It does teach:
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Show me one verse that contradicts these and you will have a fallible Bible...which is impossible...
I am still waiting......
Matthew 16 (regarding Jesus Christs One True Church) and John6 regarding Our Lords TRUE Body and Blood in the Eucharist "doesn't contradict ANY of the verses you listed----it only confirms, supports and compliments those verses because every thing that you have quoted, has,(for over 2000 years),is and will continue to be manifested (in and through) Jesus Christs One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ). It is the same message in both my Protestant bible as well as my Catholic Bible! Unfortunately, for you, the TRUTH has "escaped your anti-catholic mind and your "editorializing bible only (opinionated heresy) has "corrupted and confused your heart and soul! No surprise here coming from Protestant "fundies" who continue to live in the "same old distorted (500) year Reformation "bondage" of "relative truth" Christianity!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#426438 Mar 8, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Yep. I'm as queer as a three dollar bill. I just happen to be a homosexual that has been saved by grace that is no longer practicing that lifestyle. However my flesh is still attracted to men. And I am still honest enough to admit it because one thing about me is I AM NO HYPOCRIT.
~~~

You wrote..

I sometimes have to really strive to bring this flesh under subjection. As they say..the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

You have a promise in God's word, that you will not be tempted above that you can bear.

It reads

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man:
but God is faithful,

who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able;

but will with the temptation

also make a way to escape,

that ye may be able to bear it.

When and if you have an overwhelming temptation....then I would

recommend that you find a genuine/real Christian that can pray a prayer

of deliverance over/for you.

I would further recommend that you be very careful whom you choose, to

pray a prayer of deliverance...

Not every thing that glitters is a genuine diamond. there is a lot of

paste around.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#426439 Mar 8, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Matthew 16 (regarding Jesus Christs One True Church) and John6 regarding Our Lords TRUE Body and Blood in the Eucharist "doesn't contradict ANY of the verses you listed----it only confirms, supports and compliments those verses because every thing that you have quoted, has,(for over 2000 years),is and will continue to be manifested (in and through) Jesus Christs One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ). It is the same message in both my Protestant bible as well as my Catholic Bible! Unfortunately, for you, the TRUTH has "escaped your anti-catholic mind and your "editorializing bible only (opinionated heresy) has "corrupted and confused your heart and soul! No surprise here coming from Protestant "fundies" who continue to live in the "same old distorted (500) year Reformation "bondage" of "relative truth" Christianity!
~~~

I have a serious problem believing that The Blood of Jesus is created in a Mogan David Wine Press...

Or

His flesh is created by Nabisco...and experiences transubstantiation

through the ritual of a corruptible priest..

Jesus was first sired by the Holy Ghost...and His precious sinless body

and

blood cannot be recreated/re-produced by a corruptible man...

The very thought of doing so ..to me ..is beyond comprehension.

Our relationship with the heavenly Father is SPIRITUAL..

.A PHYSICAL ritual ...such as you Roman Catholics claim to do.... to

me...would be cannibalism.
Clay

United States

#426441 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have a serious problem believing that The Blood of Jesus is created in a Mogan David Wine Press...
Or
His flesh is created by Nabisco...and experiences transubstantiation
through the ritual of a corruptible priest..
Jesus was first sired by the Holy Ghost...and His precious sinless body
and
blood cannot be recreated/re-produced by a corruptible man...
The very thought of doing so ..to me ..is beyond comprehension.
Our relationship with the heavenly Father is SPIRITUAL..
.A PHYSICAL ritual ...such as you Roman Catholics claim to do.... to
me...would be cannibalism.
John 6: 52

That's precisely why you and the others walked out on Jesus, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat"?

Well, Christ told us how. Paul told us how too, when he explained the Catholic Mass to the Church at Corinth "for I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night He was betrayed took bread, and when He had given thanks He broke it, and said, "This IS MY BODY, which is for you. Do THIS if remembrance of me"
"therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the wine unworthily, will be guilty of profaning the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ"

Cor 11: 23, 27
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426442 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have a serious problem believing that The Blood of Jesus is created in a Mogan David Wine Press...
Or
His flesh is created by Nabisco...and experiences transubstantiation
through the ritual of a corruptible priest..
Jesus was first sired by the Holy Ghost...and His precious sinless body
and
blood cannot be recreated/re-produced by a corruptible man...
The very thought of doing so ..to me ..is beyond comprehension.
Our relationship with the heavenly Father is SPIRITUAL..
.A PHYSICAL ritual ...such as you Roman Catholics claim to do.... to
me...would be cannibalism.
Well, Jesus said several times that it was so.

Are you telling us that God is incapable of bringing something about that He said He's do?
Clay

United States

#426444 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have a serious problem believing that The Blood of Jesus is created in a Mogan David Wine Press...
Or
His flesh is created by Nabisco...and experiences transubstantiation
through the ritual of a corruptible priest..
Jesus was first sired by the Holy Ghost...and His precious sinless body
and
blood cannot be recreated/re-produced by a corruptible man...
The very thought of doing so ..to me ..is beyond comprehension.
Our relationship with the heavenly Father is SPIRITUAL..
.A PHYSICAL ritual ...such as you Roman Catholics claim to do.... to
me...would be cannibalism.
You may mean well and truly love the Love, but you can't be undoing what Jesus Christ started.

Out of all the point topics you guys disagree with us, the Eucharist is the one that makes me the saddest. Please don't ever think you're personally insulting us by mocking the Eucharist. I don't think any Catholic would take it personal, because we know the Eucharist is Jesus Christ. Therefore, you're mocking Him, not us. This is why its sad.

You guys claim to be 'bible alone', but nothing is more obvious than the Eucharist described in scripture. Christ was blunt about it. He was clear as can be. All the early Christian writers support what the Apostles taught about it. It was always there until you guys undid it a few hundred yrs ago.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#426445 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have a serious problem believing that The Blood of Jesus is created in a Mogan David Wine Press...
Or
His flesh is created by Nabisco...and experiences transubstantiation
through the ritual of a corruptible priest..
Jesus was first sired by the Holy Ghost...and His precious sinless body
and
blood cannot be recreated/re-produced by a corruptible man...
The very thought of doing so ..to me ..is beyond comprehension.
Our relationship with the heavenly Father is SPIRITUAL..
.A PHYSICAL ritual ...such as you Roman Catholics claim to do.... to
me...would be cannibalism.
About 10 yrs after the last book of the NT was written, Ignatius of Antioch who was ordained by St. Peter as Bishop and who was a Disciple of the Apostle John wrote this: "Take note to those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ who has come to us. See how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. They abstain from the Eucharist and prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and the Father, in His goodness, raised up again. They who deny this gift are perishing in their disputes"

Do you believe the Apostle John messed up by explaining to Ignatius the wrong info?
Or do you believe Ignatius didn't know what he was talking about, and you, 1,900 yrs later know better than this man, who knew the Apostle John personally?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#426446 Mar 8, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You may mean well and truly love the Love, but you can't be undoing what Jesus Christ started.
Out of all the point topics you guys disagree with us, the Eucharist is the one that makes me the saddest. Please don't ever think you're personally insulting us by mocking the Eucharist. I don't think any Catholic would take it personal, because we know the Eucharist is Jesus Christ. Therefore, you're mocking Him, not us. This is why its sad.
You guys claim to be 'bible alone', but nothing is more obvious than the Eucharist described in scripture. Christ was blunt about it. He was clear as can be. All the early Christian writers support what the Apostles taught about it. It was always there until you guys undid it a few hundred yrs ago.
~~~

We serve Communion but we make no effort (to desecrate reproduce, re-create the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ) by believing His body and Blood could be created re-produced by a priest...If what you claim is true...and a miracle takes place

WHY WOULD THE PRIEST HAVE TO HAVE ANY SUBSTANCE (BREAD AND WINE) to start with...
.FOR THE TRANSUBSTANTIATION..

THE MANNA THAT GOD GAVE FROM HEAVEN..which is a type of the body of Jesus Christ ...NEEDED NO PRIOR SUBSTANCE.

Jesus said..

Joh 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

Joh 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

Question...

Why is the communion... of so great importance to your Church ...

when you deny the rest of God's word, and make no effort to love a Holy

sanctified consecrated life.

King James version of the Bible says concerning Communion...

1Co_11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

Yet you Roman Catholics take it with gusto...

and claim that it secures you salvation..

.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#426447 Mar 8, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>You mean she survived? Did you make that story up,LOL?
Yes.....and No.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426448 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
We serve Communion but we make no effort (to desecrate reproduce, re-create the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ) by believing His body and Blood could be created re-produced by a priest...If what you claim is true...and a miracle takes place
WHY WOULD THE PRIEST HAVE TO HAVE ANY SUBSTANCE (BREAD AND WINE) to start with...
.FOR THE TRANSUBSTANTIATION..
THE MANNA THAT GOD GAVE FROM HEAVEN..which is a type of the body of Jesus Christ ...NEEDED NO PRIOR SUBSTANCE.
Jesus said..
Joh 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
Joh 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
Question...
Why is the communion... of so great importance to your Church ...
when you deny the rest of God's word, and make no effort to love a Holy
sanctified consecrated life.
King James version of the Bible says concerning Communion...
1Co_11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
Yet you Roman Catholics take it with gusto...
and claim that it secures you salvation..
.
Um, the passage indicates that if you take communion and don't discern the body and blood of Jesus, you're eating and drinking unworthily.

You just condemned yourself, GIF.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#426449 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have a serious problem believing that The Blood of Jesus is created in a Mogan David Wine Press...
Or
His flesh is created by Nabisco...and experiences transubstantiation
through the ritual of a corruptible priest..
Jesus was first sired by the Holy Ghost...and His precious sinless body
and
blood cannot be recreated/re-produced by a corruptible man...
The very thought of doing so ..to me ..is beyond comprehension.
Our relationship with the heavenly Father is SPIRITUAL..
.A PHYSICAL ritual ...such as you Roman Catholics claim to do.... to
me...would be cannibalism.
Consider this video, Confrint. Justin Martyr wrote this letter to someone, about 50 yrs after the last book of the NT was penned:

youtube.com/watch...

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#426450 Mar 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
398
<quoted text>
"Priestly celibacy is somethin I think will be overturned in my lifetime."
Further proof that even Catholics know that their "church" does not always teach per Scripture...If celibacy was based on the Bible...it would never change...because the Word of God does not change...
BTW..your first supposed "pope" was married....so were some of the apostles...
LIAR thou arth,'oxBow'.

Stanley thinks that you harbour hate because you were raised in an environment of hate.....jamPacked in the middle of gorillas.

What sayeth you? No bullschiddt now, ya hear.

Or else I shall 'set' Stanley on you and when Stanley gets set on someOne, Stanley does not letUP. No sireee. Stanley just digs in and tears an arm off the hateful one and beats'em to death with it.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#426451 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
We serve Communion but we make no effort (to desecrate reproduce, re-create the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ) by believing His body and Blood could be created re-produced by a priest...If what you claim is true...and a miracle takes place
WHY WOULD THE PRIEST HAVE TO HAVE ANY SUBSTANCE (BREAD AND WINE) to start with...
.FOR THE TRANSUBSTANTIATION..
THE MANNA THAT GOD GAVE FROM HEAVEN..which is a type of the body of Jesus Christ ...NEEDED NO PRIOR SUBSTANCE.
Jesus said..
Joh 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
Joh 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
Question...
Why is the communion... of so great importance to your Church ...
when you deny the rest of God's word, and make no effort to love a Holy
sanctified consecrated life.
King James version of the Bible says concerning Communion...
1Co_11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
Yet you Roman Catholics take it with gusto...
and claim that it secures you salvation..
.
First and foremost, I've had the Eucharist before, I will testify to the special grace Christ gave us through it.
Can we experience the Holy Spirit from praying and reading the Bible? Yes, but its different with the Eucharist.
The Eucharist is the scriptures coming to life. Its not just reading something, its partaking in it.

And most importantly Confrint, its what Jesus Christ commanded of His Apostles and its what they taught.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#426452 Mar 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
406 398
<quoted text>
Your info on the popes is further proof that the Catholics are not always following the Sacred Word of God...the Bible...
The Word of God does not teach celibacy one day, and the next day teach the opposite!!!!
LIAR thou arth 'oxBow'.

I believe that You are living proof that some form of human life exists with its head stuffed up its arseHole.

Ollie has confided in me that on reading some of your past messages, that you are one very mixedUP piece of work.

Ollie would never hire you as an extra on the set, unless you were used as the part of a 'turd' on the side of the road.

I disagree with Ollie on this one, as I think that there is more DNA in a 'turd' than in your hole (sic) form.

Ollie also believes that the only education that you have is that which you gleaned from the ILK that tossed swill over the rails of your pigpen.

Go Figure.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#426453 Mar 8, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Never heard of a FIND MESS ?
You are so correct and Ollie should have written 'Now that's another fine mess you have gotten yourself into'. Much Obliged on that one.

Now, Stanley wants to give you a headsUP on internet protocol.

The number ONE cardinal sin on the internet is to criticize another posters schpelling, grammmmar, and centence structures.

The WorldWideWeb is available and open to 300+ countries having 6000+ cultures and MOST of the people posting on the internet are doing so in 'heeeengliiish' while 'eeeengleeeesh' is NOT their native language (like Stan & Ollie - who will match their heeengliish against yours any dime).

Where in the world do you get the idea that the WorldWideWeb is being used ONLY by the Western countries.....and in your case ONLY by your US of A !!!!!!!!!!

....as the fellow would say.....you have schidt-for-brains.

Meanwhile back at Laurel Canyon, we have a piano to move....just after we lower one from 4 floors above via block & tackle down quickly on your everLovin' neck on the sidewalk. That ought be attractive enough to bring out Errol Flynn and Clarke Gable to startUP a drinking song in your dishonor.

We get a lot that way.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426454 Mar 8, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
First and foremost, I've had the Eucharist before, I will testify to the special grace Christ gave us through it.
Can we experience the Holy Spirit from praying and reading the Bible? Yes, but its different with the Eucharist.
The Eucharist is the scriptures coming to life. Its not just reading something, its partaking in it.
And most importantly Confrint, its what Jesus Christ commanded of His Apostles and its what they taught.
What happens to Jesus if there is some of Him left over after communion? When I was in the catholic church it was a feeding frenzy with the eucharistic ministers...they'd gobble up all that was left. Is that still the case?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#426456 Mar 8, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
About 10 yrs after the last book of the NT was written, Ignatius of Antioch who was ordained by St. Peter as Bishop and who was a Disciple of the Apostle John wrote this: "Take note to those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ who has come to us. See how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. They abstain from the Eucharist and prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and the Father, in His goodness, raised up again. They who deny this gift are perishing in their disputes"
Do you believe the Apostle John messed up by explaining to Ignatius the wrong info?
Or do you believe Ignatius didn't know what he was talking about, and you, 1,900 yrs later know better than this man, who knew the Apostle John personally?
~~~

I personally Know Jesus Christ as My Lord and Savior...

I can receive input from the Holy Spirit just as Your ST Ignatius.

God didn't die when he established the Church ...He is still alive and

active today he still speaks to his Born Again Sons...

Have you heard from Him lately...

___

As for your mentor Ignatius.

I have never read of of Ignatius...In the Bible ....The Holy Spirit
never wrote any thing about Him .

If He was not important enough for Holy Spirit to referenced him in the Bible ...Then I have no need to follow his teachings,... especially if what he says is not consistent with the word of God.

What your mentor says does not supersede what is written...in God's word...

So I say as Jesus did to the devil...

"IT IS WRITTEN" ....AND WHAT IS NOT WRITTEN I REJECT ....

That is if it is not consistent with God's word.

JESUS SAID..

Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

TO ME... ANY THING MORE THAN JESUS WORDS,..WHICH WORD IS HIS FLESH AND BLOOD.

OR ANY THING LESS THAN WHAT HES HAS SPOKEN FORTH

...IS DESECRATING THE BLOOD AND BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

FOR THE BIBLE SAYS

Joh_1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

JESUS BODY AND HIS BLOOD... IS HIS LIVING WORD.. WHICH WE

MUST INGEST INTO OUR SPIRITS....

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