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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 703637 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426194 Mar 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Showing respect.
He received an Iraqi delegation and they gifted the Pope with the Koran, something they held precious. The Pope is pretty well on record respective to the fact that there are differences between Catholicism and Islam, yes?
Whatever the case, he was showing respect to a religion that rejects Christ as the Son of God...correct?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#426195 Mar 7, 2013
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>
What a moronic post.
Only to those who don't understand it - namely you.
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible and all Christianity is being pushed out of classrooms slowly by people without morals.

The separation of church and state dictates this. That way, individuals with religious views, like Islam terrorists, do not corrupt the government with "hocus-pocus" and beliefs, instead of facts.
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>Do you see kids getting any better with this approach or society in general?
Let's change the question, using more appropriate wording.

Why don't we see parents and other adults teaching and supervising kids better?

Please remember - most children are still in a learning stage of their life through the age of about 12-15. Whereas, at this point in their life, their learning style changes, forced upon by adults and teachers. THis is also where we adults need to keep a vigil on these youngsters, so they do excel and succeed.

"God" hasn't been around in many thousands of years, what makes you think "He" will be in the thousands of schools across our country. You are living a delusion fantasy world sprung up by your spiritual fantasies of grandeur.
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>What do you want to introduce, your cult to the devil?

What? Where are you coming from now? Please stop making up things about me.

If you can't respond to me with intelligence, please don't respond to me at all, okay?
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>Relativism?
"Everyone is Right!" @JustWow 2009

If you need to ask, then you really don't understand your religion.
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>Where will you go for morals?
Teaching right from wrong is not that hard to do, Disciple.

I guess you need some sort of special training to understand this?
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>The government?
No. Most parents, teachers, civil servants, etc. have taught their kids and others the difference from right from wrong for millenia. Unfortunate for you, you think these all came from the Bible, in which you are incorrect.

What kind of moral is it to rape a virgin and then pay the father of the person just raped a certain amount of money for the virgin's hand in marriage?

Do you have a daughter? Would you allow this? Why not? It is in the Bible, so it must be valid and true.

Bullshite. Your argument has not content, mainly because of your ignorance to the facts of life and our society.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426196 Mar 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
We are not to judge others nor condemn them.
Aren't you on this thread to bellyache about the Catholic Church declaring itself the "true church"? Now, you WANT a Catholic to
actually condemn people?
One side of the street or the other, Chuck.
Nice deflect...who said anything about judging Danny? I didn't

Does the passage I provided apply to pope john for showing respect to the Muslims? Thanks

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#426197 Mar 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
___
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
THE FOCAL POINT HERE ...IS TO SEEK CHRIST,,, NOT YOUR ULTRA EGO
I GUESS I SHOULD JUST IGNORE YOUR EGOMANIA..BALONEY.
YOU SEEM TO HAVE ONE MIND SET...
YOU ALWAYS GO BACK TO YOUR OBSESSION WITH SELF...
I AM NOT INTERESTED IN EGOMANIA-ISM
any more than I am in CONSTANTIN-ISM
NEITHER ONE LIFTS US JESUS.
YOU CAN'T LIFT YOURSELF OUT OF YOUR SINS ...
BY PULLING ON YOUR OWN BOOT STRAPS
ONLY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CLEANSES FROM ALL SINS..
JESUS WORDS WERE/ARE..
Joh_15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit:
==>for without me ye can do nothing.
You are just mad (dismayed) that I had proven your "Paul" did speak of what Jesus taught. Yes, those teachings that are not in the canon.

You may beleive whatever you choose to. What would one expect someone to do, if they never researched the truth behind what they believe.

*sighs*
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426198 Mar 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
We are not to judge others nor condemn them.
Aren't you on this thread to bellyache about the Catholic Church declaring itself the "true church"? Now, you WANT a Catholic to
actually condemn people?
One side of the street or the other, Chuck.
2 John 1:9 Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God.(THIS IS MUSLIMS) Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting(THE POPE DID GREET THEM AND SHOW RESPECT), 11 for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.

**Danny, Danny, Danny,...your pope greeting and showing respect to an ememy of God. Sigh...what would Christ say Danny?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426199 Mar 7, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever the case, he was showing respect to a religion that rejects Christ as the Son of God...correct?
He was showing respect to the delegation.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#426200 Mar 7, 2013
Los Angeles Attorney Declares Rampant Fraud,
Many Abuse Claims Against Catholic Priests are ‘Entirely False’

In a stunning ten-page declaration recently submitted to the Los Angeles County Superior Court, veteran attorney Donald H. Steier stated that his investigations into claims of sexual abuse by Catholic priests have uncovered vast fraud and that his probes have revealed that many accusations are completely false.

Counselor Steier has played a role in over one hundred investigations involving Catholic clergy in Los Angeles. In his missive Mr. Steier relayed,“One retired F.B.I. agent who worked with me to investigate many claims in the Clergy Cases told me, in his opinion, about ONE-HALF of the claims made in the Clergy Cases were either entirely false or so greatly exaggerated that the truth would not have supported a prosecutable claim for childhood sexual abuse”(capital letters are his).

Mr. Steier also added,“In several cases my investigation has provided objective information that could not be reconciled with the truthfulness of the subjective allegations. In other words, in many cases objective facts showed that accusations were false.“

Mr. Steier’s declaration is a stunner. He is as experienced as anyone in studying the claims of abuse against Catholic clergy in the Los Angeles area. Also among Steier’s eye-opening statements:

“I have had accused priest clients take polygraph examinations performed by very experienced former law enforcement experts, including from L.A.P.D., the Sheriff Department, and F.B.I. In many cases the examinations showed my clients’ denial of wrongdoing was ‘truthful,’ and in those cases I offered in writing to the accuser to undergo a similar polygraph examination at my expense. In every case the accuser refused to have his veracity tested by that investigative tool, which is routinely used by intelligence agencies.”
“I am aware of several plaintiffs who testified that they realized that they had been abused only after learning that some other person – sometimes a relative – had received a financial settlement from the Archdiocese or another Catholic institution.”
“In my investigation of many cases, I have seen the stories of some accusers change significantly over time, sometimes altering years, locations, and what activity was alleged – in every case, the changes seemed to have enabled or enhanced claims against my clients, or drastically increased alleged damages.”
“I am aware that false memories can also be planted or created by various psychological processes, including by therapists who might be characterized as ‘sexual victim advocates,’ if not outright charlatans.”
“Most of the approximately seven hundred psychiatric ‘Certificates of Merit’ filed in these Clergy Cases, as required by [California] Code of Civil Procedure § 340.1, were signed by the same therapist.”(!)(Note: A “Certificate of Merit” from “a licensed mental health practitioner” is required in California before filing an abuse lawsuit.)

Steier signed and submitted the declaration “under penalty of perjury” November 30, 2010.

Steier also took aim at the outspoken advocacy group SNAP (Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests):

They maintain an interactive Internet website with a user ‘Forum’ and ‘Message Board,’ among other features, where people can share detailed information between alleged victims pertaining to identity of specific alleged perpetrators, their alleged ‘modus operandi,’ and other details of alleged molestation.

In effect, a person who wanted to make a false claim of sexual abuse by a priest could go to that website and find a ‘blueprint’ of factual allegations to make that would coincide with allegations made by other people. Law enforcement also uses the S.N.A.P. website to attempt to locate new victims and allegations against Catholic priests.v

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#426201 Mar 7, 2013
marge wrote:
James 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it--he will be blessed in what he does.
Self.

Jesus did ncourage others to go to "James the Just" for instruction.

GoThomas 12:1-2
(12)

(1) The disciples said to Jesus: "We know that you will depart from us.
Who (then) will rule [lit.,‘be great’] over us?"
(2) Jesus said to them: "No matter where you came from, you should go to
James the Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426202 Mar 7, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice deflect...who said anything about judging Danny? I didn't
Does the passage I provided apply to pope john for showing respect to the Muslims? Thanks
No.

He's not teaching anything but the Gospel of Christ.

You curiously omitted this part of 2 John:

4 It has given me great joy to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as the Father commanded us. 5 And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. 6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426203 Mar 7, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
2 John 1:9 Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God.(THIS IS MUSLIMS) Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting(THE POPE DID GREET THEM AND SHOW RESPECT), 11 for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.
**Danny, Danny, Danny,...your pope greeting and showing respect to an ememy of God. Sigh...what would Christ say Danny?
He'd say what John said in 2 John:

4 It has given me great joy to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as the Father commanded us. 5 And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. 6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#426204 Mar 7, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Still wrong.
You brought it up and wanted to discuss them. I kept trying to keep you focussed on my question to you, in which you have refused to answer and still refuse to answer it.
Please stop trying to turn this around, like I said, I'm going to call you out on any fallacy that you try to put on the table.
I'll answer your questions, when you honestly answer mine.
Which appears you will never get an answer from me, because you haven't answered mine. It shows in your frustration and continuous use of diversion tactics.
Bummer for us all, huh?
*sighs*
I've answered your question probably 20 times. Your refusal to accept my answer does not mean I didn't answer.

Your question, "Why do I think Paul was more enlightened than Jesus?" ----------> My answer once again:

Ready??

Are you sure?

Yes? OK then...

Here it is...-------> I don't.

Did you catch it that time??

I answered "I DON'T.

You still with us?

Ready for some additional information I've shared over and over already?

You sure?

OK.

Here it is:

I think Paul's writings were inspired. I think God through the Holy Spirit was working through Paul. Therefore, I do not believe Paul's writings and Jesus' sayings could ever contradict.

My opinion:

Ready????

Are you sure?

OK. Here goes....

My opinion is that Paul writings are neither more or less enlightened that Jesus' teachings. Why? Because they were the teachings Jesus wanted us to have. Happened to be through Paul.

Did you get that?

Did you notice I answered your question?

Or, will you, like so many times before, ignore my answer and continue to tell me I have not answered your question?

Will you?

Hmmm?

Now, since you are SO GOOD at asking loaded questions, here's one for you - the question I have asked TWICE of you that YOU have diverted...

Ready???

OK, New Age Spiritual Leader, here it is:

Why do you think the Book of Acts should not be in the Bible?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#426205 Mar 7, 2013
7TH Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Glad you brough tup the tower of Babel cause that is where the Catholic Church get it's origin of idol and pegan worship from.
~~~

Yep God at that time made it clear the he was against universal unity..
of any kind...

His reason was...
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

~~~~

Gen 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

Gen 11:2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

Gen 11:3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

Gen 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

-->NOTE

Gen 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

Gen 11:6 And the LORD said,---> Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.<---

Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Gen 11:8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

Gen 11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426206 Mar 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Yep God at that time made it clear the he was against universal unity..
of any kind...
His reason was...
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
~~~~
Gen 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
Gen 11:2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
Gen 11:3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
Gen 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
-->NOTE
Gen 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said,---> Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.<---
Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Gen 11:8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
Gen 11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
?

God is against "universal unity of every kind"?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#426207 Mar 7, 2013
Stan-an-Ollie wrote:
<quoted text>
.....LIAR.....
The Holy Roman Catholic Church gets is worship from the Teachings os Our Lord Jesus Christ, from Whom ALL good things come.
You give all outward appearances in your scribblings of being a hateful heathen with so much animosity inside your blackHeart that you are festering away in Rot.
Even a couple of idiots such as Stanley and myself very easily know and accept and believes in the Holy Roman Catholic Church...even though we don't get there all the time.
But for you to come onto a General Forum, open to the Genereal Public in 300+ countries, having 6000+ cultures to say such vile and hateful, and angry things....only lends credence to the fact that while there's a minimal perCentage of hAtheists like you, there are hundreds of millions of pwople with genuine FAITH like us.
Go Figure.
Stanley sends his worst regards to eeejits like you.
Really. No joking. When Stanley is serious...Stanley is very serious.
The Bible does not teach that we are to believe in any "Church"...much less the Catholic Church.

You are putting your money on the wrong horse!!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#426208 Mar 7, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Your response comments are "so ridiculous" that one wonders where your "rationale thinking is because there obviously "is none. This is like making a 2013 critique on a "history book" that was written (up-to-date) in 1931 by saying, "how come the events of World War II do not appear in this history book" ---Since they are not there then the war "must not have happened"!!-----The fact is that "Church History" doesn't end with the bible, despite the fact that you bible only (buffoon fundies) would like to think so, in your "desperate attempts" to convince (yourselves and other non-thinking Protestants.
075

Your words: What's the problem? I said Peter made Ignatius Bishop of Antioch. Is it recorded in the Bible? No. Does that mean it didn't happen? If no, then why?

Your words plainly say that Catholics follow teachings of dead "saints".....Christi ans follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.
disciple

Murrieta, CA

#426209 Mar 7, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Since you start with a hot air statement I will not answer any of your moronic post.
James Madison and Thomas Jefferson were called the “Champions of Religious Freedom for a reason. Nothing to do with all the wasted space you took from this thread.
Read and learn something for a change. Get a clue of what "separation of church and state" means.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#426210 Mar 7, 2013
157
Stan-an-Ollie wrote:
<quoted text>Your ignorance of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and its members is beyond belief...especially when you go on and on and on speaking about Catholics.
The fact is that Roman Catholics 'stopped' paying too much attention to the 'OLD TESTAMENT' many, many years ago. Obviously, you haven't.
Roman Catholics 'follow' the teachings of Our Lord Jesus Christ who is One in being with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Roman Catholics accept this as the most important aspect of their FAITH and call it the Holy Trinity.
Unless you have this FAITH, you will Never understand and will traverse this WholeWideWorld lost and alone.
Stanley says people in such dire straits are 'more the pity'.
....Stanley is usually most right.
At least you are honest..

Christians live by every Word of God...as teaches the Sacred Word of God..Quote: But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#426211 Mar 7, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever the case, he was showing respect to a religion that rejects Christ as the Son of God...correct?
Which is an abomination to God. The Pope should show such respect for the Holy Scripture of Our God Most High God.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426212 Mar 7, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible does not teach that we are to believe in any "Church"...much less the Catholic Church.
You are putting your money on the wrong horse!!!
You must be reading the Racing Form by mistake.

Matthew 16:18

18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it.

Eph 3:21

21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen

Matt 18:20

18 Then Jesus came to them and said,“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Eph 5 makes numerous mention of the church.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426213 Mar 7, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Which is an abomination to God. The Pope should show such respect for the Holy Scripture of Our God Most High God.
Still stuck on that?

Where's my citation from the RCC that they don't believe in the Bible?

Even Chuck thinks you're wrong.

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