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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 685776 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#426006 Mar 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>as far as the word "enlightened" is concerned, the Bble doesnt teach that, nor infer that.

I never said it did. I'm asking for a personal opinion by the forum posters. And for some reason, everyone continues to divert from it.

Hmmmmm...why's that?

You are the first one to actually take some time to try to respond in that way.

Thanks.
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>so you are just blowing smoke with that word.
No - pointing out details that seem to be skewed with the followers of Christianity.
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>but we are assurred that what Jesus did, we also can do even more "works" than He did. right?John 14:12
Won't that make us all INSPIRED BY "GOD" - thus we also have the ability to write a gospel.

Unless you truly don't believe that we are inspired.
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
en·light·en (n-ltn)
tr.v. en·light·ened, en·light·en·ing, en·light·ens
. To give information to; inform or instruct.
Yes - and how does that differ than my use of the word?
- I've asked why do people think "Paul" was more "informed" than Jesus?

He wasn't.
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>So with the help of the Lord and according to this description of the word "enlightened", Paul did "enlighten" many more souls than Jesus did, and over many more years also.
That isn't what I've asked. Why are you diverting from answering the question?
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>truthfully, you think that you are so much more intelligent than others on this forum but truth be told,, some day, you also will fall into that ditch that gif just posted about
No I don't. But I do claim to be more informed than most on this forum. There is a different.

In fact, I'm trying to help inform others of this good news, but it seems, that others, just don't want to be bothered with it, huh?

People may believe as they wish, but like I've said, I'll call them out on their belief if it isn't based in facts.....like your religion's belief that "Paul" was more enlightened than Jesus, when it is plainly obvious that is not the case.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#426007 Mar 6, 2013
999 933
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly!'no denominations are named in scripture'.
Therefore the Catholic Church is not a denomination. It does not matter that Queen Elizabeth put a label on the Church. You guys can stand on the outside and call Jesus Church ' another denomination' all you want. It doesn't affect what it really is.
History shows there were no titles to the Churches the Apostles set up. They were just 'the Church'...the Church at Corinth. The Church at Antioch. The Church at Rome. Same Church; different cities. Therefore, the first Christians called themselves the universal Church.(Catholic)
It is not a denomination because there is no other.
One Church in communion with the Bishop of Rome, just like Ignatius of Antioch described themselves in 105 AD. "Wherever the Bishop appears, there let the people be. As wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the CATHOLIC CHURCH. It is not lawful to baptize or give communion without the consent of the Bishop, therefore, whatever has his approval will be pleasing to God, Thus will be safe and valid"
"Exactly!'no denominations are named in scripture'.
Therefore the Catholic Church is not a denomination"...

There is no cure for stupid....it will get worse as you age.

Christ built a church...church is a common noun. In your delusional mind, you change it to Church, which is a proper noun. You are changing Scripture...

God said: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Bring fans and lots of lemonade!!!!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#426008 Mar 6, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
936
<quoted text>
You, evidently, have not been given understanding...otherwise, you would be able to answer my questions...
761
marge wrote:
"Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ."
-----
Ah am curious....how many burdens are you carrying???? Whose burdens are you carrying...what are they...how long will you carry them???
What is this "law of Christ"???????
Psssst.....you are talking about "Self" again......

Why don't you believe that this entity is in fact - your life?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#426009 Mar 6, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
lol! i ain'ts diverting nothin - i'm facing my foes head-on, baby;)
Without answering the questions posed to you?

How does that work?

Do you just stand there silently and in awe? Or like you have been doing - diverting?

You are contradicting your comments that you've already posted.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#426010 Mar 6, 2013
TO CLAY:An archbishop wrote letters in 1996 to the Vatican watchdog led by Cardinal Ratzinger calling for disciplinary proceedings against Fr Lawrence Murphy, according to Church and Vatican documents.

Fr Murphy was a popular priest who is believed to have molested some 200 boys at St John's School for the Deaf in St Francis, Wisconsin, between 1950 and 1974.

A canonical trial authorised by Cardinal Ratzinger's deputy was halted after Fr Murphy wrote to the future pope asking that proceedings be stopped, despite objections from a second archbishop.

The accused priest said in the letter that he was ill and wanted to live out the remainder of his time in the "dignity of my priesthood".
BBCNEWS
xClay

Lawrence, MA

#426011 Mar 6, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
TO CLAY:An archbishop wrote letters in 1996 to the Vatican watchdog led by Cardinal Ratzinger calling for disciplinary proceedings against Fr Lawrence Murphy, according to Church and Vatican documents.
Fr Murphy was a popular priest who is believed to have molested some 200 boys at St John's School for the Deaf in St Francis, Wisconsin, between 1950 and 1974.
A canonical trial authorised by Cardinal Ratzinger's deputy was halted after Fr Murphy wrote to the future pope asking that proceedings be stopped, despite objections from a second archbishop.
The accused priest said in the letter that he was ill and wanted to live out the remainder of his time in the "dignity of my priesthood".
BBCNEWS
So the Priest was dying? Did the Pope or his deputy handle it.
Either way Jethro, this story fizzled out in two days. There is no reason you should recycle it unless you have new info that would help the victims. Right now, its just Propaganda and slander.
xClay

Lawrence, MA

#426012 Mar 6, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
999 933
<quoted text>
"Exactly!'no denominations are named in scripture'.
Therefore the Catholic Church is not a denomination"...
There is no cure for stupid....it will get worse as you age.
Christ built a church...church is a common noun. In your delusional mind, you change it to Church, which is a proper noun. You are changing Scripture...
God said: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Bring fans and lots of lemonade!!!!!
I'm being nice to you and you call me stupid?

I suppose, why not... You guys attempted to confiscate their scriptures why not try and steal their identity too.

The CC is not a denomination because OX says so.
You nor Queen Elizabeth has any authority to define Christs Church.

Now go play with your coloring books and antagonize someone else.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#426013 Mar 6, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
No I didn't. Irrelevant.
<quoted text>
So. Again, irrelevant.
<quoted text>
Do I need credibility to speak my mind? No.
We have what some call a freedom of speech in this country.
Are you jealous that I've spoken openly and honestly?
- probably so, as you haven't.
<quoted text>
My belief is what I have chosen. And no, it is to inform.
I was just hoping you had a good excuse to be stupid. That IS what you continually inform us about in your silly posts!

BTW, the change in Paul's life is VERY relevant. It in and of itself is proof that the event we read about in Acts when He's on the road to Damascus really happened.

So much for your failed hypothesis that he never met Jesus.
If only you had consulted the Bible before spewing rhetoric, it would've told you so.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#426014 Mar 6, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
952
<quoted text>
...
The Catholic Church is a denomination.....No denominations are named in Scripture....
There are no denominations in the bible, because Jesus Christs One TRUE Apostolic (Universal Catholic) Church "was one" "is still one and will "always be one"------and remains the "only one"------which (never was, nor ever will fit) the catagorie or definition of "denominational" which is division and separation........ Division and separation is the (exact reason) why Paul in I Cor.1:10 (condemns) those who,(professed and claimed), I follow Paul, or I follow Appolos, or I follow Cephas, or I belong to Christ"...... Paul (in verse 13) said "Is Christ divided"?----Todays Protestants,and 16th century Luther and the Reformation (refused to listen to Paul) and began their own "MAN MADE denominations and proceeded to "divide Christ" beginning with the "I follow Luther claim, or I follow Zwingli, or I follow Hus, or I follow Calvin or (today in the 21st century) I follow Confrinting, or I follow justachristian, or I follow 4GVN, and on and on and on until we now there are over 42,000 of the Protestant (I follow my MAN-MADE denominations).... Paul had it EXACTLY right in I Cor 1:10 because it was the TRUE Christians who "belonged to Jesus Christ", the ones who "followed Christ", and the ones who worshiped Christ, and those were the TRUE Christians that followed Jesus Christ, and it was in and through HIS One (and only one) True Universal Catholic Church----THEY WERE THE ONES-that proclaimed the TRUTH of "belonging to Christ", instead of belonging to ( SOME MAN PREACHER)--like Appolos or Cephus, or even Paul himself! If Paul were alive today he would have to repeat 1 Cor 1:10 to you "bible only" Protestants (over and over again) because for, FOR OVER 500 YEARS, you have been "prodigal son" (defiant and rebellious) "editorialists" since the Reformation, in which each one of your 42,000 contradicting MAN MADE beliefs, are following your own MAN MADE"whims, of personal "bible interpretations" and (editorializing) "your own personal
"relative truth" half-truth, half-heresy Christianity, to "make it mean" ONLY what you want it to mean!!!!

Since: Nov 08

usa

#426015 Mar 6, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Right Jethro8!
The eligible voting cardinals claim the spirit of God enters their beings and helps guide them in determining who to vote for.
If that is the true, wouldn't common sense mean why bother having a vote at all if all the cardinals should be voting for the very same candidate as per the holy spirit informing them all.
No need to vote, line up all the cardinals in a circle and on the count of three they should all yell out the same name, shouldn't they?
Its a game played by old men with red hats only.
no need for the cardnals,benny would just have to say to god,i want to retire,who shall i name to take my place? and being the true vicar of christ he would recieve that persons name directly from god,but as we all know that does not happen,a fallible man will be chosen by other fallible men,one who'll know to keep the church dirt under the rug, a man taught in the art of lying with a straight face to the people that are foolish enough to follow a corrupt perverted church,that is no holier than the house i live in.I do not understand how people can still follow a church that has been proven to morally bankrupt,laundering money for the mafia,committed bank fraud themselves, and who knows what else they have done that we don't know about. it truly mystifies me,especially people with children,no way would i allow a child of mine be left alone with a catholic priest,i ask my brother if he leaves his kids alone with a priest and he wouldn't even consider it,but then he is only catholic because his wife is from a devoted catholic family,and she had to be married in a catholic church (family rules) so my brother reluctantly became catholic, but does not consider himself one,like me he does not believe in all the hocus pocus they created to make themselves look better than other religions,and as we are slowly finding out, all their man made traditions are exactly that, hocus pocus dribble.dog doody in a shiny package...TAKE NOTE,i have nothing against catholic people,it's not their fault that the church is a den of corrupt perverted MEN who are no more holier than me,I probably have a higher moral standard than half the higherarchy of all the archdioceses and the vatican council put together.To all catholic men,women and children you have my sympathy,it is not your fault you were duped into believing the church is a holy place,after all no one really knows what goes on since the people of the church have no say in matters and all matters are conducted behind closed doors.if they want to be considered a city it should follow the same rules,open door meetings to people and the press like it is done here and some foreign countries.make the council and the pope more accessable to the general public and news outlets,build a press room,a conference room where the public can join in on matters of the church,in other words be a free city/country.let democracy live,don't suppress it. think about it,if the C.C. wants to be a country it would be a country run by dictatorship like communist N.Korea or like germany under hitlers rule and stalin.thanks but no thanks would be my answer to that.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#426016 Mar 6, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I was just hoping you had a good excuse to be stupid. That IS what you continually inform us about in your silly posts!
I'm no stupid, but continuing to insult me with these false statements, do show that something I did say, you didn't agree with, so you continue to make false claims to advert from answering honestly.

I'm just trying to help. You may accept it or not.
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW, the change in Paul's life is VERY relevant. It in and of itself is proof that the event we read about in Acts when He's on the road to Damascus really happened.
No, it isn't. But you enthrall yourself to believe other men and then fight for their belief to be "true", when in fact it isn't.
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
So much for your failed hypothesis that he never met Jesus.
Only in a vision.

Do you always believe people who had visions?
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
If only you had consulted the Bible before spewing rhetoric, it would've told you so.
I did, and it didn't say shite concerning - "Paul is more enlightened than Jesus", so I went back to Jesus' teachings and also found the same thing - "Paul" isn't more enlightened.

What is your next dilemma?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#426017 Mar 6, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually Jethro the flour and sugar bags were made out of a heavy cotton.
Burlap bags were for potatoes and other root veggies.
I heard of Robinhood flour we buy it all the time.
really must be a canadian brand maybe? only brand names around these parts are gold medal and king arthur and the generic store brands.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#426018 Mar 6, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
you'd agree that when something is posted online, it doesn't automatically become factual?
If Pope Benedict knew anything, the real media wouldn't hesitate to pounce on something that would taint the Catholic Church.
The Bishop of Rome does not sit in his office and read reports on the millions of Churches world wide. That's just not how the hierarchy functions. Bishops handle their own Archdiocese and almost always the buck stops with them. Most Bishops handled the situations responsibly. Others did not.
But lets keep it real, the ones that did not, didn't handle it any different than how secular bodies dealt with this topic in the middle 20th century. Treatment was always used by other peoples too. For some reason, the CC is trashed for doing what was the norm.
I'm very proud of how the Church handles it now. They are leading the way.
You are so in denial Clay; What is wrong with you people.
Your children are like sheep being lead to the slaughter, yet you do nothing to stop it.
Catholic Church's are being shut down in Sudbury, as well as schools because of the abuse of children people as scared to take their kids to church.
We met in coffee shops after service and talk about this stuff Clay.
There are a lot of catholic's who go to our church.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#426019 Mar 6, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>really must be a canadian brand maybe? only brand names around these parts are gold medal and king arthur and the generic store brands.
I have heard of Gold Medal, but not King Arthur.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#426020 Mar 6, 2013
008
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Psssst.....you are talking about "Self" again......
Why don't you believe that this entity is in fact - your life?
Teceg ho telase hika ye iyeneca asie. Oneja dibe mejiron safel liha; fure renedew isisice siro, binin epeni ilafejef peyuri efagiket atafihiv tamehur rayu cesi; cohira sore mi runefed ecowac pey be tienemi yudor: Qac rula atuy sot relone datit mar solemed tise olit! Rofesah tuf ilete yusenil lemesun ne roneto dol odas hawamem! Mi ehu ebetate di roriyo ralo. Hoyis home mu hih wimucor ter osanenir! Lunoni rene livinas rexeca dabato yope urepem. Cef fah pa bacof omicicav? Ditap cama mifesah newohe epetoxu rag; lonemiv elid oreci tehin mebefom cacisa ri sietuxa fohelel. Bi tu asovon ba fa acalul ica elupik. Itar citom larahas nur put ebepinier emun.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#426021 Mar 6, 2013
022
xClay wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm being nice to you and you call me stupid?
I suppose, why not... You guys attempted to confiscate their scriptures why not try and steal their identity too.
The CC is not a denomination because OX says so.
You nor Queen Elizabeth has any authority to define Christs Church.
Now go play with your coloring books and antagonize someone else.
You are really proving my words to be absolutely true..i.e. there is no cure for stupid and it will get worse as you age...

Quote: The CC is not a denomination because OX says so.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#426022 Mar 6, 2013
014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
There are no denominations in the bible, because Jesus Christs One TRUE Apostolic (Universal Catholic) Church "was one" "is still one and will "always be one"------and remains the "only one"------which (never was, nor ever will fit) the catagorie or definition of "denominational" which is division and separation........ Division and separation is the (exact reason) why Paul in I Cor.1:10 (condemns) those who,(professed and claimed), I follow Paul, or I follow Appolos, or I follow Cephas, or I belong to Christ"...... Paul (in verse 13) said "Is Christ divided"?----Todays Protestants,and 16th century Luther and the Reformation (refused to listen to Paul) and began their own "MAN MADE denominations and proceeded to "divide Christ" beginning with the "I follow Luther claim, or I follow Zwingli, or I follow Hus, or I follow Calvin or (today in the 21st century) I follow Confrinting, or I follow justachristian, or I follow 4GVN, and on and on and on until we now there are over 42,000 of the Protestant (I follow my MAN-MADE denominations).... Paul had it EXACTLY right in I Cor 1:10 because it was the TRUE Christians who "belonged to Jesus Christ", the ones who "followed Christ", and the ones who worshiped Christ, and those were the TRUE Christians that followed Jesus Christ, and it was in and through HIS One (and only one) True Universal Catholic Church----THEY WERE THE ONES-that proclaimed the TRUTH of "belonging to Christ", instead of belonging to ( SOME MAN PREACHER)--like Appolos or Cephus, or even Paul himself! If Paul were alive today he would have to repeat 1 Cor 1:10 to you "bible only" Protestants (over and over again) because for, FOR OVER 500 YEARS, you have been "prodigal son" (defiant and rebellious) "editorialists" since the Reformation, in which each one of your 42,000 contradicting MAN MADE beliefs, are following your own MAN MADE"whims, of personal "bible interpretations" and (editorializing) "your own personal
"relative truth" half-truth, half-heresy Christianity, to "make it mean" ONLY what you want it to mean!!!!
Christ built a church...church is a common noun. In your delusional mind, you change it to Church, which is a proper noun. You are changing Scripture...

God said: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Bring fans and lots of lemonade!!!!!
xClay

Lawrence, MA

#426023 Mar 6, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so in denial Clay; What is wrong with you people.
Your children are like sheep being lead to the slaughter, yet you do nothing to stop it.
Catholic Church's are being shut down in Sudbury, as well as schools because of the abuse of children people as scared to take their kids to church.
We met in coffee shops after service and talk about this stuff Clay.
There are a lot of catholic's who go to our church.
LTM, there is no excuse for such ignorance. I could never take you nor your friends at the coffee shop serious because of this ignorance. It honestly saddens me.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#426024 Mar 6, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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<quoted text>
My nomination for one of the most idiotic statements on this forum!!!!! "we are all suppose to be his children"....
Quote: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it...
Good advice... read your Bible....stop repeating what you have learned from watching movies....
:( not very nice,i don't go by movies although i do watch the movie "the bible" by john houston. and whats so idiotic about my sentence? it is the truth is it not? or is there a second creator?I hear people say all the time it's god will that this happened or that happened,someone is declared to be on his/her death bed,but is miraculously cured,what do you hear? god answered our prayers, is it true?how can you prove it?lets look at a movie "the bucket list" two people one white one black,both with the same disease,same diagnosis,their time is short,but one is miracurously cured the other not,did god intervene on behalf of one and not the other? and how did he decide who should live and who should die?explain please,and i do look things up in the bible and other sources,like the books left out of the bible,and architechual&geological findings that prove a lot of the bible stories are over embelished to make them seem holy,for instance the story of sodom and gamora it was not destroyed by a god it was sitting on a natural gas pocket and blew up when an earthquake happened,the surrounding terrain confirmed that by what geologists found around the cities that are consistant with a massive explossion and earthquake,which are common in that region just like california. and explain to me why it is possible in the bible for donkeys to talk and it's considered devine,but if you tell someone today that god spoke to you threw your neighbors dog you get locked up in loony town? is that person lying or telling the truth? and lets not forget the talking burning bush,it is true? the bush does exist in the middle east, but did god really talk through one?? prove it? just because someone said it happened with no way to verify it,did it really happen? my point being there are more idiotic statements out there than saying we are all gods children,if he exists,we are,he is the sole creator of everything isn't he?? genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in "our" image, after "our" likeness....who is god talking to? is he crazy? after all nothing existed except him,until he created the earth and everything on it.
Clay

Lawrence, MA

#426025 Mar 6, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
022
<quoted text>
You are really proving my words to be absolutely true..i.e. there is no cure for stupid and it will get worse as you age...
Quote: The CC is not a denomination because OX says so.
Perhaps you have some evidence where the Catholic Church was something different before? Did Ignatius separate from his teacher, John the Apostle, and invent a different group called the Catholic Church??

Shall we Catholics leave this forum now, and watch what happens to Ox, as he plays his word games with scripture?
Lol

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