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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 600088 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at CBC News.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#425103 Feb 28, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Who knows what you've declared. Get in line with the thousands of other paper popes. I couldn't keep track of you guys and your opinions on scripture if I devoted my whole life to it.
I believe the 'evangelical born again Presbyterian Baptists united church of Christ ' members have covered every angle on every possible belief scenario of Christianity.
There is no more for you guys to invent.
Or is there?
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How can there be a ditto of something ...

that as far as GOD is concerned..

does not exist, a position He never created...

and never appointed...y

there is no Scripture even in you Vulgate that can qualify such a position..

IT DOESN'T EVEN MENTION A PAPER POPE!

Yet you have the audacity to post about others

inventions...

DON'T FLY OFF THE HANDLE WHEN YOU ARE FULL OF BALONEY..

IT COULD BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH...
guest

United States

#425104 Feb 28, 2013
Christiane Amanpour reporting:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/around-the-world-...

As the Catholic Church prepares to appoint a new Pope after the unprecedented resignation of Pope Benedict XVI, a cloud hangs over the Vatican. Many Catholics are uneasy about the leadership of the church. To discuss the church in transition Christiane sat down with Italian Journalist Marco Politi.

In his book,“Crisis of a Papacy,” Politi actually predicted the pope might resign, long before the news broke. Leaning on his German heritage, he knew that Pope Benedict wouldn’t allow himself to stay on if the physical and mental stress became too much.

But beyond the physical and mental stress that go with the position, Politi said he believes that the frequent scandals and controversy surrounding the church pushed him to resign.

“This resignation was the last act in a series of crises.(Benedict XVI) is a great thinker, a philosopher and theologian, a preacher. He has not the temper of a leader; he lacks leadership,” Politi said.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#425105 Feb 28, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I will stay with the Old Testament and the New Testament
which ARE THE TRIED AND PROVEN WORD OF GOD ...
I have no interest in your NEW AGE DELUSIONS..AND CONFUSIONS
Ecc 1:9 The thing that hath been,
it is that which shall be;
and
that which is done is that which shall be done:
and
there is no new thing under the sun.
THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF THOSE SUCH AS YOURSELF, AND THE ROMAN CATHOLICS
ATTEMPTING TO WEAR OUT THE PATIENCE OF THE SAINTS...WITH YOUR MALARKEY...CONJECTURE AND FABLES...
Dan_7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
GOD'S WORD...
DOES NOT SPEAK OF A NEW AGE...BUT OF
a time and times and the dividing of time.
WHAT IS REVEALED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FULFILLED IN THE NEW...
The Apostle Paul wrote..
Gal_1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven,
preach any other gospel
unto you
than that which
we have preached
unto you,
let him be accursed.
Gal_1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
The vagueness of Christianity.

Why do you think "Paul" was more enlightened than Jesus?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#425106 Feb 28, 2013
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Dan wrote:
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But, you ARE able to make these distinctions-even though your post is an uncredited paste of someone else's writing?
This is the source of the info I posted on the many literary senses in the Bible...make a note...he is Catholic!!!!

About Mark P. Shea

The terrifying visage gazing back at you right now is a non-bearded version of Mark P. Shea: a popular Catholic writer and speaker who appears in this form from about May to November. He is a double-jump convert: raised more or less as an agnostic pagan, became a non-denominational Evangelical in 1979, and entered the Catholic Church in 1987.
endtime

AOL

#425107 Feb 28, 2013
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guest

United States

#425108 Feb 28, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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cannibal: A person who eats the flesh of other humans.
It it is absurd to think that Christ taught us to be cannibals!!!!
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Dan wrote:
It's not just His 'flesh' we are to partake in.
To eliminate this "absurd" thinking, simply tell us which part of John 6 we should tear out of our bibles.
Thanks
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geeze ..you've already (figuratively) "torn out" what you don't care to adhere to anyhow ... even words from the mouth of Jesus Christ himself.
"Call no man your Father."
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Then you add stuff from 4th century B.C.E that the Jews never recognized as canon ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_t...
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The church kept the Word of God hidden from humanity -- until they were sufficiently brainwashed into Catholicism - and now? all this garbage now going on is the fallout from that.
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God
GAVE
the Word of God
TO humanity:
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Catholic Church
KEPT
the Word of God
FROM humanity.
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In that ONE SIMPLE ACT - it is proof positive that the Catholic church is NOT the true church.
Clay

United States

#425109 Feb 28, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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How can there be a ditto of something ...
that as far as GOD is concerned..
does not exist, a position He never created...
and never appointed...y
there is no Scripture even in you Vulgate that can qualify such a position..
IT DOESN'T EVEN MENTION A PAPER POPE!
Yet you have the audacity to post about others
inventions...
DON'T FLY OFF THE HANDLE WHEN YOU ARE FULL OF BALONEY..
IT COULD BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH...
Jesus created the position, Confrint.
You just refuse to acknowledge it because you don't want to.
"Peter, you are the rock upon which ill build MY Church". "I will give you the keys to Heaven"
"Peter, feed my sheep".

"wherever the Bishop appears, there let the people be, as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church, it is not lawful to baptize or give communion without the consent of the Bishop. Therefore whatever has his approval is pleasing to God, Thus will be safe and valid"
Ignatius of Antioch, 105 AD.

The earliest known Christian writing outside of the NT, is Clements first letter to the Corinthians. Here Clement demonstrates his authority as Bishop of Rome (Pope) demanding that the Church in Corinth reinstate several Priests they removed unjustly. This letter was believed to have been written around 90 AD.

"I would far rather hear of a rival to my throne than another Bishop of Rome"
Emperor Decius upon beheading Pope Fabian in
250 AD.
Clay

United States

#425110 Feb 28, 2013
guest wrote:
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geeze ..you've already (figuratively) "torn out" what you don't care to adhere to anyhow ... even words from the mouth of Jesus Christ himself.
"Call no man your Father."
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Then you add stuff from 4th century B.C.E that the Jews never recognized as canon ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_t...
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The church kept the Word of God hidden from humanity -- until they were sufficiently brainwashed into Catholicism - and now? all this garbage now going on is the fallout from that.
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God
GAVE
the Word of God
TO humanity:
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Catholic Church
KEPT
the Word of God
FROM humanity.
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In that ONE SIMPLE ACT - it is proof positive that the Catholic church is NOT the true church.
What the Jews recognize as canon does not supersede what Christians recognize. Especially after their canon was not instituted until 70+ yrs after Christ died.

The Catholic Church gathered, edited and compiled the books THEY considered as inspired.
You are not a part of this Church, so you have no business attempting to dictate these scriptures.
Does Canada try to dictate the United States Constitution? No
Why? Because Canada has no authority to do so.

The CC protected and still protects the Bible from the cults, conspiracy Christians, Satanist, doomsday apocalyptic wackos (that's you) and whomever else tries to hijack the books.
guest

United States

#425111 Feb 28, 2013
Clay wrote:
Sounds like you're falsely accusing our last Pope. Benedict 16th.
There is no evidence what-so-ever this man knew and/or covered up anything.
Of course, you can search the world wide web and probably find some slander-cult-propaganda-laced essay, saying he did. And being an Ideologue, you'll latch on to it as fact.
A great man is stepping down tomorrow who served Jesus Christ his whole life. He is one of only 266 Bishops of Rome who had the honor of sitting in the chair of St.Peter. To put that in perspective, there have been a hundreds of thousands of paper Popes since the reformation. By the time a new Pope is elected, there will be hundreds more who assumed there own Papacy of whatever store front Church they opened. But we Catholics had only 266. And they were validly ordained in a lineage that the world has never duplicated.
Amen.
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4GVN wrote:
Maybe you are right Clay. Maybe the POPE didn't know. Rather odd that everyone else in the world did.
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Touche' 4GVN ...
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It IS incredibly odd that everyone else in the world knew it - and unbelievably sad that those who supposedly *didn't* KNOW it and who were in position to DO SOMETHING about it FOR THE CHILDREN ... sat on their respective thumbs hoping it would just go away .... ALL THE WHILE *KNOWING* THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD KNEW! who does that? who enables child rapists?
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Now it's spread all over the globe - with the epicenter in Vatican City.
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Yeah, Clay ... the world wide web search helps, but seems Catholics don't know how to interpret anything that isn't filtered through the Rose Colored Roman C Church glasses.
Clay

United States

#425112 Feb 28, 2013
endtime wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mXWcaR0DuWoXX
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Are you in the same compound as Guest and 7th?

If so, tell them I said hi, and I'll bring some canned goods for y'all if I can hide out when the four horsemen are riding around.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#425113 Feb 28, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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The vagueness of Christianity.
Why do you think "Paul" was more enlightened than Jesus?
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I did not say

that

"Paul" was more enlightened than Jesus?"

You evidently you have an

obsession. with that subject...

Decide for yourself and stop attempting to draw me into

your darkness of the mind...

1Co_12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Gal_1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Gal_1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

I give you God's word again...

Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
guest

United States

#425114 Feb 28, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Jesus created the position, Confrint.
You just refuse to acknowledge it because you don't want to.
"Peter, you are the rock upon which ill build MY Church". "I will give you the keys to Heaven"
"Peter, feed my sheep".
"wherever the Bishop appears, there let the people be, as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church, it is not lawful to baptize or give communion without the consent of the Bishop. Therefore whatever has his approval is pleasing to God, Thus will be safe and valid"
Ignatius of Antioch, 105 AD.
The earliest known Christian writing outside of the NT, is Clements first letter to the Corinthians. Here Clement demonstrates his authority as Bishop of Rome (Pope) demanding that the Church in Corinth reinstate several Priests they removed unjustly. This letter was believed to have been written around 90 AD.
"I would far rather hear of a rival to my throne than another Bishop of Rome"
Emperor Decius upon beheading Pope Fabian in
250 AD.
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wow.
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BEFORE Jesus *created* the *position*... He, without equivocation, SAID, "Call No Man Your Father." so why would he create a position where it is expected that men are to be called Father?
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Is it any wonder how you cannot understand that simple sentence, and expect to interpret a more complicated allegorical statement?
The Gates of Hell ... where and who ARE the gates of hell, Clay.
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Jesus is the Door to Heaven ...
so I wonder if it could be said that Satan is the Gates of Hell?
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Jesus said to Feed my Sheep
Satan destroys the sheep.
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When the Pope covers up for pedophiles ... he has opened the Gates of Hell and pushed the little children IN!
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#425115 Feb 28, 2013
Who is the Antichrist?
The people of the world are currently desperate for a savior who will rescue them from all their self-inflicted problems. The threat of war, economic uncertainty, terrorism, disease, and the seeming meaninglessness of life are all preparing humankind to accept what will be its last great human emperor, which the Bible describes in vivid detail. Of this preparation, historian Arnold Toynbee observed:“By forcing on mankind more and more lethal weapons, and at the same time making the world more and more interdependent economically, technology has brought mankind to such a degree of distress that we are ripe for the deifying of any new Caesar who might succeed in giving the world unity and peace.”

Some may try to deny it, but the history of humanity has demonstrated that people will readily turn themselves over to anyone with answers to their problems, even to the point of worshipping them as their savior. First came the Egyptian kings who brought the people order and prosperity, and for their efforts, they were regarded as sons of gods. Afterwards, Alexander the Great appeared in history, and for his accomplishments he was granted divine kingship from his followers, and eventually worshipped after his death.

Full blown emperor worship began in 29 B.C. at Ephesus through Julius Caesar, with Caligula (A.D. 37) being the first emperor to allow the veneration of a living Roman Caesar. Those coming after Caligula (e.g. Domitian) saw political value from being deified and had no problem extracting worship from their citizenry. And the interesting thing about that worship is that it was freely given to the emperors by the people; a gift for having given them peace and economic assistance. William Barclay states:“The extraordinary fact is that emperor worship was not imposed on the Roman Empire from above; it grew from below.”

Examples continue right into the 20th century with dictators such as Adolf Hitler, about whom the German people composed hymns that deified his abilities. It’s sad but true: history speaks to the fact that people will readily follow and even worship a leader who delivers on their promises of peace and prosperity.

con
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#425116 Feb 28, 2013
Examples continue right into the 20th century with dictators such as Adolf Hitler, about whom the German people composed hymns that deified his abilities. It’s sad but true: history speaks to the fact that people will readily follow and even worship a leader who delivers on their promises of peace and prosperity.

As for the future, certain New Age teachings proclaim the coming of a world ruler who appears to exemplify human perfection. Levi Dowling, in his book Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ, writes:“But in the ages to come, man will attain to greater heights ... And at last, a mighty master soul will come to earth to light the way up to the throne of perfect man.”

The Bible clearly describes a coming world ruler who will make all others that have come before him pale in comparison. The traditional name given him is Antichrist, with the name coming from the Apostle John: "Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour”(1 John 2:18).

The prefix “anti” in the Greek can be defined in one of two ways. The most common meaning is as an indicator of something that is the exact opposite of the suffix that follows it. But, the second definition surprisingly can mean “another”,“replaced by another”, or “instead of”. The coming Antichrist fits both of these definitions. He will at first seem to be “another” Christ; a savior that the world willingly welcomes and follows because of the apparent goodness that he brings about. Soon afterwards, however, he will reveal his true nature and display that he is actually the polar opposite of the true Messiah, Jesus Christ.

A tracing of the Antichrist through Scripture begins in the book of Genesis. In God’s curse handed down to Satan through the serpent in the garden of Eden, the first allusion to Antichrist is given: "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel”(Genesis 3:15). In this verse, God speaks about two seeds: the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman. The seed of the woman can be followed through Scripture and is found to be a godly line that results in the nation of Israel, which in turn gives birth to Jesus Christ. The seed of the serpent can be traced as well and be found to result in the Roman nation (cf. Daniel 9:26; Revelation 17), which will one day deliver the Antichrist.

The Bible is quite clear as to when the Antichrist will appear, what he will do, and what his destiny will be. Regarding when the Antichrist will be made known, the Apostle Paul writes that the coming tribulation period spoken about in the Bible (cf. Daniel 9; Matthew 24; Revelation 4–18) will not come about until the Antichrist is revealed:“Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship”(2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).

Paul also teaches in the same passage that there will be an event that will unleash the Antichrist upon the earth:“And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed”(2 Thessalonians 2:6-7). Many theologians believe this event will be the rapture of the Church. The Church’s removal from the earth permits the Antichrist to be unveiled and begin his worldwide campaign of conquest.

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LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#425117 Feb 28, 2013
Speaking about the Antichrist’s crusade, the Apostle John writes about a vision he is given in Revelation that describes it: "Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder,‘Come.’ I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer”(Revelation 6:1-2). It should be noted that the white horse signifies a conquering ruler and the bow with no arrows telegraphs the thought that the Antichrist will win his campaigns mostly through peace rather than via war in the beginning.

Tracing the building of the Antichrist’s earthly kingdom through Scripture (cf. Daniel 7:8-11, 7:19-26, 9:24-27, 11:36-39, 11:40-45; Revelation 13:1-8, 17:1-13) reveals that he will take possession of a ten nation confederacy that will represent a revived Roman empire. Seven of the nations will willingly give themselves over to him, while three will be subdued. The Antichrist will also sign a false peace treaty with the nation of Israel (cf. Daniel 9:24-27) and appear to bring peace to the Middle East. This and other actions prompt the world to marvel at his prowess:“Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?”(Revelation 13:4).

However, the Antichrist’s false peace soon evaporates when, in the middle of his seven year reign, he enters a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and declares himself to be God, showing himself to be someone “who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God”(2 Thessalonians 2:4; also cf. Matthew 24:15). The Antichrist will demand worship from all humanity and will execute any who do not bow down and worship him (cf. Revelation 13:15). It is at this point that the true Creator responds to the challenge and begins to decimate the Antichrist, his kingdom, and all who follow him. This will be the period referred to by Christ as the Great Tribulation (cf. Matthew 24:21).

The Great Tribulation culminates in the battle of Armageddon when Christ returns, puts an end to the Antichrist’s reign, and assigns him to eternal destruction: "And the beast [the Antichrist] was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone”(Revelation 19:20).

The Antichrist’s destiny is fixed and certain, as is every person’s who chooses to follow a false messiah instead of the only true One. Because each new day brings humanity closer to the time when the Antichrist will be set loose upon the earth, it is critical that those who have not yet put their faith in Jesus Christ do so and escape the time of the Antichrist’s rule:“Now is the day of salvation”(2 Corinthians 6:2).

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#425118 Feb 28, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Jesus created the position, Confrint.
You just refuse to acknowledge it because you don't want to.
"Peter, you are the rock upon which ill build MY Church". "I will give you the keys to Heaven"
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Your private interpretation of the above scripture does not say that

Peter is or was ever a Pope.

Neither does Jesus assign your assumed conjecture to any specific Church

It says nothing about papal succession...

To start with Peter was a Jew...and how could a bunch of gentiles

succeed him..

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#425119 Feb 28, 2013
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At the time of the writing of Matthew 16:17-18-19 Gentiles were considered strangers and dogs...

This did not change until Jesus died and rose again...

Only then were we Gentiles grafted in to the olive tree,
and became heirs to the kingdom of God through the blood of Jesus Christ..

Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh

Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#425120 Feb 28, 2013
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Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

Rom 11:14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Rom 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

Rom 11:35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#425122 Feb 28, 2013
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Clay wrote:
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What the Jews recognize as canon does not supersede what Christians recognize. Especially after their canon was not instituted until 70+ yrs after Christ died.
The Catholic Church gathered, edited and compiled the books THEY considered as inspired.
You are not a part of this Church, so you have no business attempting to dictate these scriptures.
Does Canada try to dictate the United States Constitution? No
Why? Because Canada has no authority to do so.
The CC protected and still protects the Bible from the cults, conspiracy Christians, Satanist, doomsday apocalyptic wackos (that's you) and whomever else tries to hijack the books.
Absolutely hilarious!!!!!!!

History of the King James Version of the Bible:
Throughout the Middle Ages literacy rates were extremely low in Europe, and hand copied manuscripts were expensive. The bible and many legal documents were written in Latin or Greek, which were becoming increasingly dead languages used only by the church. Moreover, the statute of Valencia and other statutes had made it illegal for anyone not authorized by the church to have even the Latin and Greek versions of the of the Bible.

The laity therefore had to rely on the church, government and powers that be for understanding and interpreting these documents. With the invention of the printing press, one of the first books to be printed was the bible, which was soon translated into several languages, often badly. The errors were due in part to ignorance and in part by attempts to use the Bible to further sectarian political or theological goals.

A few small parts of the Bible had been translated into vernacular at different times. King Alfred translated the ten commandments, and Bede had translated the gospel of St John into Saxon language, but the translation was lost. In the fourteenth century.

Wyclif had translated parts of the Bible and this work was completed after his death. Many copies of this "Lollard" bible in middle English were distributed before the invention of printing.

To be continuated...
Clay

United States

#425123 Feb 28, 2013
guest wrote:
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wow.
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BEFORE Jesus *created* the *position*... He, without equivocation, SAID, "Call No Man Your Father." so why would he create a position where it is expected that men are to be called Father?
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Is it any wonder how you cannot understand that simple sentence, and expect to interpret a more complicated allegorical statement?
The Gates of Hell ... where and who ARE the gates of hell, Clay.
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Jesus is the Door to Heaven ...
so I wonder if it could be said that Satan is the Gates of Hell?
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Jesus said to Feed my Sheep
Satan destroys the sheep.
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When the Pope covers up for pedophiles ... he has opened the Gates of Hell and pushed the little children IN!
'call no man father' is a part of the Bible that you isolate and use against the Church that gave you the Bible.
Hmmm.

Guest, this topic of 'call no man father' is something that has been fairly explained to you.
You see, i know you think you have a case against the Church here, because you feel you can show that verse and be justified.
On judgement day, be sure to show Jesus that verse so he'll understand your ideology.

But make sure to remove John 8:56 from your bible, so Christ won't think you realized your error.

"your FATHER Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day, he saw it and was glad"
John 8:56

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