Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603600 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Saban fan

Duluth, GA

#425045 Feb 28, 2013
Clay wrote:
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The bread used at mass is just bread, until the prayers of the Priest - which repeat the words of Jesus Christ - "THIS IS my body....do THIS in memory of me" are performed, then it becomes the Eucharist, which according to Jesus Christ, is Him.
Mary is the Mother of Jesus Christ. Therefore, its appropriate that Mary would also be the Mother of The Eucharist (Jesus Christ).
It's symbolism Clay. He's the door too, but He's made of wood, we don't knock on Him and he doesn't have hinges. It's symbolism. Participating in the Lord's Supper on "the first day of the week" is a memorial, not the real body, not the real blood. The church is the body.
truth

Perth, Australia

#425046 Feb 28, 2013
no..canibals..
Please explain what our society teach us about what?

They teach us sustain life in much more worse situation then we have here everything today.

Process which many as ordinary did not know..why is like that.

Please tell us what we eat today!

Forgive me I don't liked be to much smart maybe all of us can't be strong as you try express yourself.
But many will tell you, they could live hard as well harsh life.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#425047 Feb 28, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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It's symbolism Clay. He's the door too, but He's made of wood, we don't knock on Him and he doesn't have hinges. It's symbolism. Participating in the Lord's Supper on "the first day of the week" is a memorial, not the real body, not the real blood. The church is the body.
He (Christ) didn't say it was a memorial, though.

He repeated the teaching several times and didn't clarify as to it being symbolic even when followers grumbled and departed.

This is where we Catholics get very confused. "Bible alone" protestants have built an entire theology out of one line in Timothy, yet they work very hard to deny Christ's very clear teaching in John about the Eucharist. It's perhaps Christ's most emphatic teaching, yet we are to believe that He was being allegorical or whatever, even when He recognized that His followers were having a hard time following His message and some were leaving?

That's a tough, tough sell, Saban.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#425048 Feb 28, 2013
Dan wrote:
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The Church did not impose statehood upon itself, did not invoke diplomatic immunity upon itself and what would you suggest it do with money it has? Place it under a mattress, or...?
Is statehood, diplomatic immunity and banking somehow intrinsically bad now, or what?
The church gained statehood in a deal with Mussolini.

What did Jesus say about rendering to onto Caesar? You must ignore too much of Jesus' teachings IMHO.

It has invoked diplomatic immunity to protect itself from questioning in cases involving sex-abuse of orphans in Ireland for example.

History shows that the Vatican bank may be one of the most corrupt in the world.

Was this really the wishes of Jesus? Consider....

What was Jesus last act on earth as a free man?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/06/...

Golly, how do other religions get by without their own banks? How did the RCC manage for so many years? Maybe Bank of America should start a church? lol

Bottom line -- I can't think of anything good that has come from Mussolini's "gift," but there's plenty of evil in my opinion.
truth

Perth, Australia

#425049 Feb 28, 2013
You have plenty time complain as atheist or nonbeliever
because others organization have many things which is much more worse.
truth

Perth, Australia

#425050 Feb 28, 2013
Jesus Christ know us.
Human weakness where others try complain about what your perfection which also fall.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#425051 Feb 28, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Men men men men men menly men men men.lol
The "2 1/2 men" theme song. I hate that show.
Question: if you look at writings, by men, and determine YOURSELF what they mean. Wouldn't you be listening to men? Are you not a man?
Charlie Sheen is hilarious. His new show "Anger Managament" has all the good stuff too - Martin Sheen as his Dad and even his ex-wife Denise Richards is on the show as his "ex-wife". Brilliant!

I am a man. But I let my Self dictate my belief. It'll let me know if I am true to it or not.

But you bring up a good point - can my Self, determine a belief?

I think it is that little voice we are encouraged to listen for - which some refer to as "God's voice".

So in a sense, "God" is dictating my belief, not men.

But again we speak in a speculative way, as "God" has never been proven.

Darn I wish someone would find those "10 Commandments".

Our luck will probably be that they are Sumerian in origin, based upon that this society had created the oldest "tablets" in museums today.

*shrugs*

But I'm babbling about something that is only myth. Sorry.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#425052 Feb 28, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~~
I have no reason to believe you ...you post..
The objectionable filthily language that you have
communicated.... in your post ... that alone proves that you are not
capable of judging what a real Christian is...and that you have no
moral standard of Biblical holiness... or godly righteousness.
Jesus said
Mat_5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
~~~
You evidently feel that you are an expert in your --->Didymus,<--- doctrines...
double, that is, twin; Didymus, a Christian:- Didymus
and are attempting to get me to doubt my salvation.
Joh_11:16 Then said Thomas,-->which is called Didymus,<--- unto his fellow disciples, Let us also go, that we may die with him.
Thanks for responding GiF.

You brought in some good stuff for a change.

I could care less if you believe me or my posts. They are what they are.

"Filthy?" - Far from it. More accurately - direct conclusions of your belief.

"you are not capable of judging what a real Christian is"
- You are right, the title has never been described as complete and true. Shoot, not one ofyou can even describe what/who the "Church" is, without causing an argument amongst yourselves, thus causing furhter discourse and division amongst its "body".
- Get over it - I'm part of the "Church" and you can't do a darn thing about it. Well, except thinking you are the doorman for this ensemble, and FEEL you get to determine who is and who isn't. The ego protrayed by certain so-called "Christians" will be the cause of their demise. I am soooo looking forward to that new fall. It will end so much misery in the world.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#425053 Feb 28, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
MY SUGGESTION TO YOU ABOUT THE
(so called) Gospel of Thomas)
LEAVE IT.
My suggestion to you stands - LEARN IT.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#425054 Feb 28, 2013
Dan wrote:
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He (Christ) didn't say it was a memorial, though.
"And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire".

**Dan...we're all grown ups here so I'm sure in your lifetime you have looked at a woman in a lustful way. Did you do what Jesus instructed you to do? I'm mean that's what He said right....
truth

Perth, Australia

#425055 Feb 28, 2013
Why you exist as visible with body and not- invisible
as spirit?

I think Jesus Christ know why is like that!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#425056 Feb 28, 2013
hojo wrote:
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You (man) interpret the bible just like every other bible only believer (all 42,000 of you)------WHY!! because, "the bible CANNOT interpret itself!!--You read it and you give your "opinionated interpretation of what you "think it means". For 2000 years, Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church (clarified, authenticated and confirmed) the (original interpretation, handed down by Jesus Christ, to the Apostles,-from the letters, documents and manuscripts,(that they recorded), which were discerned by the Early Church Fathers, who formed the Canon of Scripture in 382,393 and 397AD- It was the Catholic Church who-gave to you(New Age) the Bible that "you yourself" interpret (or better yet mis-interpret to your own "demise and destruction"!! Why do you believe(modern mans) interpretation of the bible--beginning with you!!!
Wrong again hojo.

I've never interpretted the Bible. Where are you getting this from?

Oh yeah - must be from your frustration of me and my posts.

No worries - your dismay will only last until you let the astonishment set in.

Will you?

I wonder why it took 300 years for men to figure out what you are to believe and what you are to refuse to believe.

Damn those slow men. Doesn't sound like "God" or the HS had any say in this conclusion at all.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#425057 Feb 28, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
You've proved you right.
Of course I did. Why haven't you accepted the proof?
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't explain it to you if you don't get it by now and all the others have been unsuccessful too.
Back-peddling much.

Maybe you can't explain it, because you never had the knowledge to do so at all. You may speak a good game to the other indoctrinated followers, but not with me, as I've called you out for the nonsense you think you know.

We'll just end this with - you are a fraud.

Please stop making up claims that you cannot support, except with distortions of the facts and blatant lies.

You've been busted.
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't forget to ask them if they want fries and if they'd like to supersize it.
:)
Supersize?
- you are way out of touch.
- Remember that adage - "smaller than a mustard seed"? Jesus gives an explanation that in itself is already "Supersized".
- One does not need to expand upon something that is already present within us.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm
(20)

(1) The disciples said to Jesus: "Tell us whom the kingdom of heaven is like!"
(2) He said to them: "It is like a mustard seed.
(3) <It> is the smallest of all seeds.
(4) But when it falls on cultivated soil, it produces a large branch
(and) becomes shelter for the birds of the sky."

The simplicity of Jesus is what has been missed by your team, causing the errors in your judgment of Jesus.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#425058 Feb 28, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
He is NOT reachable, Clay....
Sure I am - all you have to do is just post to me.

But, and in truth, you are actually implying that I am not spiritual or understand spiritual manners, you are completely wrong, and probably used this tactic of yours to roust up others, only showing your own ignorance to what I've spoken on.

I'm saddended to see this in today's religious community - but hey, someone has to point out the rough spots that are taboo in your religion.

Maybe one day it will open the eyes of its followers to what Jesus actually taught, and not some made up bullshite that religion decided to place its spin on.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#425059 Feb 28, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
He is NOT reachable, Saban....
Ah yes - I must've hit a nerve with you, if you have to keep repeating this.

Repeating it will not make it tru, likeyou have done with your belief.

Get over it - the dismay will go away, if you let it.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#425060 Feb 28, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't recall any Pope declaring that they knew the nature of God.
It would indeed be arrogant to claim this, but I haven't seen any Pope offering a description of what they know God is like.
And yet you believe your church is a "true church" based upon the admission that they "know God" had only inspired the writers of the canon and no others.

This is why I've always stated, men created the Bible and men are the only ones who have described how "God" inspires.

Yes Dan - a short list of the less than six Apostles your heirarchy chose to believe is not exclusive.

Thanks for proving my points and that the RCC is not "anything true".
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#425061 Feb 28, 2013
Dan wrote:
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It's idiotic.
It sets Christ in position of being compelled to obey something, and the whole construct of it not actually being "wine" when it says it's "wine" is fallacious. It's spin to permit protestant tradition and unscriptural.
You reckon they just called the unfermented grapes GRAPE JUICE..........lmbo

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#425062 Feb 28, 2013
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Dan wrote:
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It's not just His 'flesh' we are to partake in.
To eliminate this "absurd" thinking, simply tell us which part of John 6 we should tear out of our bibles.
Thanks
The key to understanding the literal sense of Scripture is to distinguish between the terms literal and literalistic.

Every text of Scripture has a literal sense. That is, every text of Scripture has a meaning the author intends to convey. It does not therefore follow that every text of Scripture is to be read literalistically, like a newspaper.

If I tell you, "My heart is broken" I have a definite meaning I'm trying to convey: I am deeply grieved. But I am not using literalistic language to convey that meaning. I don't mean "My cardiac tissue is torn."

Same with the biblical authors. They employ all sorts of linguistic tricks of the trade--poetry, history, parable, hymn, fiction, reportage, myth, argumentation, legal codes, apocalyptic--to get their various points across. But however they express themselves, they all have a meaning they intend us to get. That meaning is what is meant by the literal sense of Scripture.

Thing is....some people, as yourself, are not able to make those distinctions...

Saban fan

Duluth, GA

#425063 Feb 28, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Of course I did. Why haven't you accepted the proof?
<quoted text>
Back-peddling much.
Maybe you can't explain it, because you never had the knowledge to do so at all. You may speak a good game to the other indoctrinated followers, but not with me, as I've called you out for the nonsense you think you know.
We'll just end this with - you are a fraud.
Please stop making up claims that you cannot support, except with distortions of the facts and blatant lies.
You've been busted.
<quoted text>
Supersize?
- you are way out of touch.
- Remember that adage - "smaller than a mustard seed"? Jesus gives an explanation that in itself is already "Supersized".
- One does not need to expand upon something that is already present within us.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm
(20)
(1) The disciples said to Jesus: "Tell us whom the kingdom of heaven is like!"
(2) He said to them: "It is like a mustard seed.
(3) <It> is the smallest of all seeds.
(4) But when it falls on cultivated soil, it produces a large branch
(and) becomes shelter for the birds of the sky."
The simplicity of Jesus is what has been missed by your team, causing the errors in your judgment of Jesus.
You, over and over, place words in my mouth I've never said and have the lack of class to call me a fraud.

If "busted" is the term you give someone that's not willing to get in the mud hole with you, than i guess I'll be "busted" - You are King of your mind and mud hole, New Age Spiritual Leader!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#425064 Feb 28, 2013
047
Dan wrote:
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He (Christ) didn't say it was a memorial, though.
He repeated the teaching several times and didn't clarify as to it being symbolic even when followers grumbled and departed.
This is where we Catholics get very confused. "Bible alone" protestants have built an entire theology out of one line in Timothy, yet they work very hard to deny Christ's very clear teaching in John about the Eucharist. It's perhaps Christ's most emphatic teaching, yet we are to believe that He was being allegorical or whatever, even when He recognized that His followers were having a hard time following His message and some were leaving?
That's a tough, tough sell, Saban.
He also said: Mt 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Know anybody whom have lobbed off their right hand because it offended them????!!!!

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