Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#423439 Feb 18, 2013
StarC wrote:
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Advice for all, especially you.:)
StarC wrote:
One week before Lent 2.13.13
Give Ups for Lent and always...
Give up bitterness; turn to forgiveness.
Give up hatred; return good for evil.
Give up negativism; be positive.
Give up complaining; be grateful.
Give up pessimism; be an optimist.
Give up harsh judgments; think kind thoughts.
Give up worry; trust Divine Providence.
Give up discouragement; be full of hope.
Give up anger; be more patient.
Give up pettiness; be more mature.
Give up gloom; enjoy the beauty around you.
Give up jealousy; pray for trust.
Give up gossiping; control your thought.
Give up sin; turn to virtue.
"Advice for me"

All of what you write is exactly Self. Thanks for proving my point that humans choose to be and do what they want.

No religion is needed - especially the RCC.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#423440 Feb 18, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
Advice for all, especially you.:)
StarC wrote:
One week before Lent 2.13.13
Give Ups for Lent and always...
Give up bitterness; turn to forgiveness.
Give up hatred; return good for evil.
Give up negativism; be positive.
Give up complaining; be grateful.
Give up pessimism; be an optimist.
Give up harsh judgments; think kind thoughts.
Give up worry; trust Divine Providence.
Give up discouragement; be full of hope.
Give up anger; be more patient.
Give up pettiness; be more mature.
Give up gloom; enjoy the beauty around you.
Give up jealousy; pray for trust.
Give up gossiping; control your thought.
Give up sin; turn to virtue.
Why don't you believe Jesus?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#423441 Feb 18, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
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Catholics know intellectually that the Catechism has changed -- many times.
Catholics simply can't accept that fact. Their belief system is exposed by 2000 years of irrefutable historical facts. Today, these facts are at our finger-tips, which causes Catholics here a great deal of anxiety.
"Tradition" is vital to their faith, yet all Catechisms and "perfect teachings" prior to Vatican 2 are conveniently forgotten.
Their tradition is like a lunch buffet of beliefs. Some is chosen to be consumed, and the rest goes into the trash.
Selective tradition = zero integrity.
Their actual teachings are at your fingertips, but you refuse to cite them while making claims about them backed with........peoples' opinions on the internet. Anecdotes.
Zero integrity indeed.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#423442 Feb 18, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
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Nice spin... Try some reality.
The treaty made the Vatican an independent state - a church-state unlike anything seen before.
As a state, the Vatican was given the power to invoke diplomatic immunity.
As for slave labor that mined the gold used on the Vatican, sorry, obviously I am mistaken. The Indians were unionized and paid a great wage, plus benefits. They loved working in the mines.
Plus the Vatican at the time showed a great deal of concern for the unionized Indian workers. My mistake. We don't want to upset your view of reality.
A citation will do for the slave labor statement.

The Vatican is now responsible for India?

Reality would be refreshing from you, FM.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#423443 Feb 18, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Horse puckette!!!!
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
There is no Scripture that says: If thou be baptized thou are saved!!!!!!
John 3:5 says it.

That's scripture, isn't it?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#423444 Feb 18, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
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During Vatican 2, there was an apology issued to Protestants. I quoted and posted a link. Here's the link again:
http://www.netplaces.com/catholicism/moderniz...
It summarizes the apology.
If you wish to hide from your own church history, I cannot force facts on you. Read what the Council of Trent stated regarding salvation. I quoted it for you.
Read the de fide statements by threes Popes that were referenced here by myself and Micheal.
Or not. Then you can keep fooling yourself.
Your link does no such thing RE: an apology issued to protestants.

You can't even tell me what was said and by whom or to whom other than what the two hausfraus at netplaces.com had to say about it.

What a clown. You'd flunk a middle school research paper with this type of "citation".
Dan

Omaha, NE

#423445 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
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You really don't have a clue what you just said here, do you?
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Dan: "Scripture informs Church doctrine. Christ's teachings."
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*IF* scripture informed church doctrine you would NOT be calling priests Father. That is CHRIST'S teaching.
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but rather,*church doctrine* waits until everyone is sufficiently *comfortable* with a new teaching and then makes it doctrine - whether or not it is aligned with Christ's teachings.
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DAN: "Doctrinal formation is a lengthy process."
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I guess it takes a while for some things to become sufficiently comfortable for the Catholic Church to declare it as doctrine.
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There is nothing more disgusting than the church's practice of BLATANTLY IGNORING Christ's teachings.
What, like you do with John 6, for example?
Please.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#423446 Feb 18, 2013
socci wrote:
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You may believe that, but what does the Pope and Church teach?
As recent as JPII, his book, just inside the front cover he made the claim to be in place of "God on earth"..
http://alltheinternet.net/...
I dont have a link to the book but this pastor reads the quote
www.youtube.com/watch...
Here, for you and your dumbass pastor:

The Catechism. What the RCC teaches.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX....

Cite where the Church teaches what you claim about the Pope.
guest

United States

#423447 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
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Dan: ""..........And Catholics rely upon the Church to teach.""
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And CHRISTIANS rely on Christ's teachings.
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What did Christ say about the little children as compared to what the pope says about little children?
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Dan ... do you NOT realize that when the world's MOST POWERFUL RELIGIOUS LEADER tries to excuse it's priests by BLAMING SOCIETY as a whole ... they are NOT REALLY GUIDING .... THEY ARE FOLLOWING.
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Sounds like Sodom and Gomorrah to me. The difference is that Lot got away from the filthy mindset that led the city's inhabitants to *accept* what was going on around them as *increasingly considered normal*... YOUR POPE has "in essence" agreed that it is OK to measure the CHURCH'S WRONGDOINGS by pedophile's standards rather than being the beacon of TRUTH.
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Now tell me: Where in the Bible does it say that the Pope can bind on earth pedophilia as *increasingly considered NORMAL*?
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What the Pope binds on earth will be bound in heaven ... eh, I really don't think so, because what the Pope is binding IS NOT IN LINE with the words of Christ. and never has been.
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Dan wrote:
"What did Christ say about the little children as compared to what the pope says about little children?"
Now you're worried about children? You refuse to baptize them, but now you're worried about them?
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The choice to be baptized should be up to the person being baptized.
They should given the right to consent. Baptizing infants against their will is wrong, so refusing to baptize infants shows respect for them and for the word of God.
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The Bible instructs baptism to be performed on one who is capable of understanding its meaning. One is baptized when they can comprehend and believe the word of God.
Baptism doesn't cleanse us of sins. Baptism is the outward expression that one has *faith* in the sacrifice of Christ. Once one has faith in the sacrifice of Christ, then they are to be baptized.
guest

United States

#423448 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
You really don't have a clue what you just said here, do you?
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Dan: "Scripture informs Church doctrine. Christ's teachings."
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*IF* scripture informed church doctrine you would NOT be calling priests Father. That is CHRIST'S teaching.
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but rather,*church doctrine* waits until everyone is sufficiently *comfortable* with a new teaching and then makes it doctrine - whether or not it is aligned with Christ's teachings.
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DAN: "Doctrinal formation is a lengthy process."
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I guess it takes a while for some things to become sufficiently comfortable for the Catholic Church to declare it as doctrine.
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There is nothing more disgusting than the church's practice of BLATANTLY IGNORING Christ's teachings.
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Dan wrote:
What, like you do with John 6, for example?
Please.
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John 6 .... what? can you be more specific?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#423449 Feb 18, 2013
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Dan wrote:
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John 3:5 says it.
That's scripture, isn't it?
According to the teaching of the Pharisees, to be born of water meant to be born physically. Proof: Nicodemus's remark, who thought to be born again meant a physical birth,“How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?

In verse 6, Jesus Himself interprets the water as flesh (a physical birth) "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

Jesus plainly said being born of water is to be born of the flesh. He explained the difference, telling Nicodemus you have already had a physical birth, you are in need of a another birth “Do not marvel that I said to you,'You must be born again.'

You must be born again “that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." The new birth from above is a second birth which gives us eternal life.

Has nothing...zilch...to do with being baptized....
guest

United States

#423450 Feb 18, 2013
Justice wrote:
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What you are talking about is not solely a Catholic problem, it is a society problem.
quoting out of context?
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#423451 Feb 18, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Here, for you and your dumbass pastor:
The Catechism. What the RCC teaches.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX....
Cite where the Church teaches what you claim about the Pope.
CONFUCIUS DIDN'T SAY >

Man who eats many prunes get good run for money

but maybe the Pope did.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#423452 Feb 18, 2013
The Catholic priest in a small town had become very perturbed, and he decided to lay
it on the line to the congregation.

"Brothers, sisters," he said solemnly, "it has come to my attention that there are
tales to the effect that immorality is rampant in our fair town. To be specific, it
is being said that there is not one virgin left here. This vile lie must and shall
be refuted. In order to do so, I ask every virgin in the congregation to rise."

Not a woman stirred.

The priest said, "I understand the modesty that would make a young lady hesitate to
announce her condition publicly, but it is necessary to do so. Young women, I
conjure those to rise who are truly virgins."

And still not a woman stirred.

Wrath now moved the priest. "Will you, for the fear of experiencing a small shame,
incur a great one? This is an order from the Almighty: Let all virgins stand!"

And as his thunderous tones died away, a young lady, far in the rear, with a baby in
her arms, rose bashfully.

The preacher stared with astonishment at the baby, then said, "Young woman, I'm
asking the virgins to stand."

And the young lady answered indignantly, "Well, father, do you expect this
six-month-old girl to stand by herself...?"
socci

Lawson, MO

#423453 Feb 18, 2013
Quotes of the popes declaring themselves 'GOD ON EARTH'(Blasphemy #1 John 10:33)
Quotes declaring POPE INFALLIBLE
TITLES OF POPE that confirm he fulfills 2Thess 2:4
Quotes of priests declaring they have POWER TO FORGIVE SIN (Blasphemy #2 Mark 2:7) 07-29-12
Quotes of the popes HATING THE CHRISTIANS
Priests have POWER OF GOD HIMSELF
Priests have MORE POWER than God Himself
Vatican claims POWER OVER ALL GOVERNMENTS
Vatican claims POWER OVER ALL CHURCHES
Vatican admits connection with CAESAR
Vatican Claims POWER TO CHANGE GOD'S LAW
Vatican boldly pushes for SUNDAY LAWS
Vatican seeks to ABOLISH CHURCH & STATE SEPARATION
Vatican openly admits BABYLONIAN (Paganism) CONNECTION
Quotes of the popes HATING THE BIBLE
Vatican's HATRED OF 7TH DAY SABBATH
Quotes of Popes and Prelates declaring MARY WORTHY OF WORSHIP
Popes declaring MARY CO-REDEEMER / CO-REDEMPTRIX / CO-SAVIOR
Popes declaring SALVATION ONLY FOUND IN ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
Misc quotes
Strange Jesuit quotes
OATH of the Roman Catholic priests
Vatican echoes Satan's comments in Isaiah 14
www.remnantofgod.org/beastword.htm
socci

Lawson, MO

#423454 Feb 18, 2013
Homosexuality



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Charges 'likely' over alleged rape of Archbishop
Catholic priest takes part in same sex marriage
Priest told of attempted seminary gang rape
Church probes priest's porn presentation
2 Roman Catholic priests seek hit men to kill them
Mass. Catholic journal withdraws homosexual devil column
Catholic Church Embarrassed By Gay Priests Revelations
Catholics in US overwhelmingly support homosexual unions
Former Catholic theologian says much of the clergy is homosexual
Roman Catholic archbishop to hold mass in graphically pro-homosexual church
Roman Catholic priest killed for money he owed for sex
Catholic sex scandal as undercover reporter 'films priests at gay clubs and having casual flings'
Police: U.S. priest stole $1 million for male escorts
Vatican his by Gay sex scandal involving elite Vatican choir singers
Priest downloaded gay porn images
Rector's book on clergy, sex is best seller - among priests
Religion, homosexuality can coexist
Catholic church reaches out to gays
Priests with AIDS
Catholic church worried about link between priests, AIDS
Cliques of gay priests are dividing the Church
Priests with AIDS - Crisis within Catholic church
AIDS in the priesthood
Bishop admits sex with priest
Homosexual Valentines day on Catholic campus
Bishop suspends priest who declared self a practicing homosexual
Priest in Spain announces his homosexuality
Spain’s first openly gay priest said...
'Gay' culture in Catholic Church grows
Gay test for aspiring priests
Confab pushes homosexuality in Church
Gay Catholics celebrate mass together
Sydney´s archbishop pell on communion for open homosexuals
Gays and the Seminary
Homosexuals better priests, Jesuit says
Bishops Avoided 'Real' Issues of Celibacy and Homosexuality, Activists Say
Spanish priest steps down after former gay lover distributes graphic video
While in California on sick leave, Boston priest bought racy gay resort
Gay association to ask Pope for homosexual patron saint
Homosexuals taking over catholic priesthood
History's Gayest Pope
Homosexuality is divinely ordered, say catechism
www.remnantofgod.org/rccsex.htm
guest

United States

#423455 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
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it is unbelievable how you cannot see just how warped Catholicism and its leaders truly is.
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here's what your "nice" pope says about pedophilia:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world -...
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“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.
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Clay wrote:
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Hold on there. Stop. Back up.
Catholicism is not warped. Its perfect and infallibly guided by the resurrected Christ.
Its leaders?
No, they are not perfect- nor infallible.**
Some have been warped; all have sinned, some are destined for hell.
A Priest at my home parish -a hundred yrs ago - was murdered on the front steps by the husband of his mistress who he impregnated.
Is that Catholicism? Is that the Catholic Church itself? Nope. Ideologue such as yourself would like to..... No ...NEED to believe it is. But its not.
** Clarification: The Pope himself is not an infallible person. He is a sinner, and some have sinned greater than you or I.
However, they are protected from error when teaching on faith and morals. The Holy Spirit needs to protect someone, right? How else are we going to know the truth?
Confrint will say it comes from him... And so will every other paper pope out there.
Obviously there can only be one who would be protected.
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Clay:
""Hold on there. Stop. Back up.
Catholicism is not warped. Its perfect and infallibly guided by the resurrected Christ.
Clay wrote:
Its leaders?
No, they are not perfect- nor infallible.**
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and when the Pope speaks - Catholics listen ... WHY? because the pope is "NOT INFALLIBLE?"
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When CHRIST speaks - CHRISTIANS listen ... WHY? Because Christ IS INFALLIBLE.
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Clay wrote:
However, they are protected from error when teaching on faith and morals.
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Jesus was protected from error when teaching on EVERYTHING. And UNLIKE THE POPE he TAUGHT by EXAMPLE.
again:
When CHRIST speaks - CHRISTIANS listen ... WHY? Because Christ IS Infallible.
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Clay wrote:
However, they are protected from error when teaching on faith and morals.
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always these built-in caveats when it comes to listening to the Pope, huh?
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There are no caveats when listening to the words of Christ.
socci

Lawson, MO

#423456 Feb 18, 2013
Child Molestation

OVER 290 ARTICLES ON THIS TOPIC ALONE!

Catholic Hell: Faith fails as sex abuse in church silenced
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LA Cardinal Mahony 'stripped of duties' over sex abuse (Why wasn't he jailed?!)
Catholic priest, teacher convicted in child-sex case
Newly Released Letters Expose Decades Of Shocking Cover-Ups Of Child-Molesting Catholic Priests
Friar accused of abuse in 2 states kills self
Video~ LA Church Files Show How Cardinal Roger Mahony Shielded Pedophile Priest
Child Porn Charges Shock Montreal Church
Victims of abuse: family tells of their trauma
Documentary Blames Vatican For Poor Handling Of Catholic Sexual Abuse Case
Catholic nun stands trial over 63 counts of physical and sexual abuse of children
Tens of thousands can now report Vatican abuse without guilt
Priest reveals system of child sexual abuse and cover-up
Men sue church, Ottawa for alleged abuse by priest
Victoria Police slam Catholic Church over child sex abuse
U.S. Roman Catholics outraged over child sex abuse scandal; call for bishop’s resignation
Australian Roman Catholic Church admits child sex abuse
Bishop Robert Finn Convicted For Failing To Report Priest Suspected Of Child Abuse
www.remnantofgod.org/rccsex.htm
Dan

Omaha, NE

#423457 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
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The choice to be baptized should be up to the person being baptized.
They should given the right to consent. Baptizing infants against their will is wrong, so refusing to baptize infants shows respect for them and for the word of God.
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The Bible instructs baptism to be performed on one who is capable of understanding its meaning. One is baptized when they can comprehend and believe the word of God.
Baptism doesn't cleanse us of sins. Baptism is the outward expression that one has *faith* in the sacrifice of Christ. Once one has faith in the sacrifice of Christ, then they are to be baptized.
"One is baptized when they can comprehend and believe the word of God."

If that were true, you'd still be awaiting baptism.

Christ never said that. Never. No conditions were placed on Baptism by Christ. None in John 3 and none at the Commission.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#423458 Feb 18, 2013
socci wrote:
Quotes of the popes declaring themselves 'GOD ON EARTH'(Blasphemy #1 John 10:33)
Quotes declaring POPE INFALLIBLE
TITLES OF POPE that confirm he fulfills 2Thess 2:4
Quotes of priests declaring they have POWER TO FORGIVE SIN (Blasphemy #2 Mark 2:7) 07-29-12
Quotes of the popes HATING THE CHRISTIANS
Priests have POWER OF GOD HIMSELF
Priests have MORE POWER than God Himself
Vatican claims POWER OVER ALL GOVERNMENTS
Vatican claims POWER OVER ALL CHURCHES
Vatican admits connection with CAESAR
Vatican Claims POWER TO CHANGE GOD'S LAW
Vatican boldly pushes for SUNDAY LAWS
Vatican seeks to ABOLISH CHURCH & STATE SEPARATION
Vatican openly admits BABYLONIAN (Paganism) CONNECTION
Quotes of the popes HATING THE BIBLE
Vatican's HATRED OF 7TH DAY SABBATH
Quotes of Popes and Prelates declaring MARY WORTHY OF WORSHIP
Popes declaring MARY CO-REDEEMER / CO-REDEMPTRIX / CO-SAVIOR
Popes declaring SALVATION ONLY FOUND IN ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
Misc quotes
Strange Jesuit quotes
OATH of the Roman Catholic priests
Vatican echoes Satan's comments in Isaiah 14
www.remnantofgod.org/beastword.htm
I gave you the site to pull it right from the source, socci.

Noted that you decline to do so.

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