Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.
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guest

United States

#423295 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
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here's a source, Clay, there are probably more:
http://withchrist.org/archives.htm
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Clay wrote:
The Church never hid the Bible Guest, they protected it.
Next time you go to your doomsday meeting with your fellow Ideologues, look around the room and ask yourself,'did the Catholic Church do the responsible thing- as safeguarders of sacred scripture?
Hopefully you're smart enough to see the chaos that individual private interpreters of sacred scripture has caused.
Heck, look on this forum alone.
The CC made the word of God available to all who wished to experience it where it belongs.
Oh you wanna pull it off the Library shelf and open your own 'Christian church' based on how you interpret the scriptures? Sorry maaam, that's not what the Holy Book is for.
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of course they *protected* it.

Just like they *protected* the little boys from the priests.

Just like they *protected* the church from all those heretics.

we know your definition of the word *protect*.
atemcowboy

Waverly, OH

#423296 Feb 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Ha ha. Different hrs today. I'm already sipping coffee and reading the paper and of course, Topix.
sheriff came over and woke me up. two of my horses were out and now I cant go back to sleep. luckily a lttle feed and they walked into the barn where they will not get out. I paid aguy 150.00 to fix the fence but they started geting out so it looks like an electric fence is next on the agenda
guest

United States

#423297 Feb 18, 2013
here are some pope Benedict quotes:
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“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.
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“It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than' and a ‘worse than'. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”
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The Pope said abuse revelations in 2010 reached “an unimaginable dimension” which brought “humiliation” on the Church.
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“We cannot remain silent about the context of these times in which these events have come to light,” he said, citing the growth of child pornography “that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society” he said.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#423298 Feb 18, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>sheriff came over and woke me up. two of my horses were out and now I cant go back to sleep. luckily a lttle feed and they walked into the barn where they will not get out. I paid aguy 150.00 to fix the fence but they started geting out so it looks like an electric fence is next on the agenda
Bummer. Its only 4 am here.. I could never get used to these hrs. Thankfully its only a couple days.
guest

United States

#423299 Feb 18, 2013
no wonder he's too pooped to pope

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-...
Clay

Chicago, IL

#423300 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
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of course they *protected* it.
Just like they *protected* the little boys from the priests.
Just like they *protected* the church from all those heretics.
we know your definition of the word *protect*.
Ya ok Guest. Have a blessed day.
guest

United States

#423301 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
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of course they *protected* it.
Just like they *protected* the little boys from the priests.
Just like they *protected* the church from all those heretics.
we know your definition of the word *protect*.
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Clay wrote:
Ya ok Guest. Have a blessed day.
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it is unbelievable how you cannot see just how warped Catholicism and its leaders truly is.
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here's what your "nice" pope says about pedophilia:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-...
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“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.
guest

United States

#423302 Feb 18, 2013
Here's one of those Bible verses that the Catholic church *protected*- it's from the Hebrew text, so RCC cannot take credit for "saving" it from oblivion:
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http://bible.cc/isaiah/5-20.htm
New International Version (©1984)
Woe to those who call EVIL GOOD and GOOD EVIL, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

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Now, pairing ISAIAH 5:20 with quotes from Benedict XVI we can see more clearly how the church is a *protector* of God's word.
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In his traditional Christmas address yesterday to cardinals and officials working in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society.
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“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.
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“It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than' and a ‘worse than'. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”
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The Pope said abuse revelations in 2010 reached “an unimaginable dimension” which brought “humiliation” on the Church.
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Asking how abuse exploded within the Church, the Pontiff called on senior clerics “to repair as much as possible the injustices that occurred” and to help victims heal through a better presentation of the Christian message.
guest

United States

#423304 Feb 18, 2013
I find this quote especially *appealing*(gag me) for its timely delivery during the Christmas season, right in time for Santa:
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In his traditional Christmas address yesterday to cardinals and officials working in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that CHILD PORNOGRAPHY WAS INCREASINGLY CONSIDERED “NORMAL” by society.
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is there any wonder why he is too pooped to pope?
guest

United States

#423305 Feb 18, 2013
http://bible.cc/revelation/18-4.htm

New International Version (©1984)

Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
guest

United States

#423306 Feb 18, 2013
http://bible.cc/john/8-32.htm
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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
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guest

United States

#423307 Feb 18, 2013
Now, in Matthew when Jesus is speaking to ALL THE APOSTLES (not just Peter) HE SAID:

http://niv.scripturetext.com/matthew/18.htm

18 “I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will bed bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will bee loosed in heaven."
guest

United States

#423308 Feb 18, 2013
The gates of hell will not prevail against the TRUTH.
David McIntyre

Sydney, Australia

#423309 Feb 18, 2013
Elizabeth wrote:
As someone who is catholic and was raised in the faith, I find this truly offensive that the Pope would make a statement like this. It is making me seriously consider leaving the church. As long as popele believe in God and the holy trinity, why does it matter whether they believe as catholics, methodists, lutherans, etc? I think Benedict has gone too far with this statement and I do believe it is going to hurt the catholic church in the long run.
Dear Friend

With love and respect, I would politely point out the invalidity of your assertion.

To be a Catholic Christian (as you claim to be) actually means believing that the Catholic Church is that one and same Church established by Jesus, and which He promised to guide until the end. This has ALWAYS been the consistant teaching of the Catholic Church, from the New Testament times and down through the centuries.

Pope Benedict has only re-emphasised the teaching. You claim to desire to leave the Church because of what the Pope has RECENTLTY taught, but the Church has ALWAYS taught this. Your view has simply been already outside Catholic belief and teaching, all along.

Incidently,don't single out the Catholic Church- every one of the 60,000 (and growing) Protestant groups claim to have arrived at Christ's truth and claim a divine guarantee of truth. The difference is Catholics listen to the Church established and guided by Jesus, where as Protestant assert that every one of us who picks up the Scripture can read them and is guaranteed to arrive at Christ's truth... Now that interesting- Christ's Truth comes in thousands of different version!(I don't think so).

Anyway to further ease your alarm, you should realise that whilst the Cathoic Church teaches it is the one true Church,it also teaches that other Christian groups that have departed from the Catholic Church still do possess some of the truth and Grace which is only fully and completely present in the Catholic Church.

If Christ is Truth and promised to always teach his Truth, then there can only be one true Church. All quite logical really.

Maybee it's time to think and pray rather than rant and rave.

Dave McIntyre

Long Live the Holy Father, successor of St Peter!
David McIntyre

Sydney, Australia

#423310 Feb 18, 2013
Elizabeth wrote:
As someone who is catholic and was raised in the faith, I find this truly offensive that the Pope would make a statement like this. It is making me seriously consider leaving the church. As long as popele believe in God and the holy trinity, why does it matter whether they believe as catholics, methodists, lutherans, etc? I think Benedict has gone too far with this statement and I do believe it is going to hurt the catholic church in the long run.
PS: You claim that to be Christian "one simply needs to believe in the Trinty and God". I would politely suggest that you need to read the writings of the early Church. Start with the New Testament, then the writings of the Early Fathers, then continue down throught the centries, to the present day. YOU WILL FIND THEY WERE ALL CATHOLIC ON EVERY POINT(BE CAREFUL NOT TO CONFUSE WHAT YOU MAY CONSIDER to be "ADDING TO TEACHING" WITH WHAT IS INFACT GAINING A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF TEACHING- WHICH CHRIST PROMISED TO PROVIDE US WITH).Your assertion of simply holding a couple of vague beliefs was never historically the case. Additionally, your assertion provides a lesson for our Protestants friends who chose to deny some aspects of the Faith. At the end of the day, if you don't like Catholic Church's teaching you can always join the other groups if you don't have a problem with them.
Justice

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#423311 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
What you are talking about is not solely a Catholic problem, it is a society problem.
truth

Perth, Australia

#423312 Feb 18, 2013
plague what you set up trough your system computer..

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Clay

Chicago, IL

#423313 Feb 18, 2013
guest wrote:
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it is unbelievable how you cannot see just how warped Catholicism and its leaders truly is.
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here's what your "nice" pope says about pedophilia:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-...
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“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.
Hold on there. Stop. Back up.
Catholicism is not warped. Its perfect and infallibly guided by the resurrected Christ.

Its leaders?

No, they are not perfect- nor infallible.**
Some have been warped; all have sinned, some are destined for hell.
A Priest at my home parish -a hundred yrs ago - was murdered on the front steps by the husband of his mistress who he impregnated.
Is that Catholicism? Is that the Catholic Church itself? Nope. Ideologue such as yourself would like to..... No ...NEED to believe it is. But its not.

** Clarification: The Pope himself is not an infallible person. He is a sinner, and some have sinned greater than you or I.
However, they are protected from error when teaching on faith and morals. The Holy Spirit needs to protect someone, right? How else are we going to know the truth?
Confrint will say it comes from him... And so will every other paper pope out there.
Obviously there can only be one who would be protected.
truth

Perth, Australia

#423314 Feb 18, 2013
Pray for your enemy even Abraham want blessing..did he liked be bless..yes..from someone who is been before him..yes ..what radio vision say..kiss Abraham hand is that our lovely Father Maharadza..if yes its very nice know..on how many place as well many face..

Did our real God who is full of Mercy and goodness did not know who is who?
Don't put God on test it is written.
truth

Perth, Australia

#423315 Feb 18, 2013
Clay right is zero..all prophets see on front..2000 4000 years ago..who kill them and why?
Did you need protection know that?
I don't think so.
Are you going make someone confuse with your emotional
impact..perhaps yes on many but not who is quiet as well not say nothing.

be good

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