Preston, you're not allowed to determine if Saban is saved or not.<quoted text>any body who doesnt know what [gopher wood] was, shouldnt be teaching any bible to any person until they get saved. and all your uncle did is get you wet, you still are lost. and if you ever get saved, you will not allow that door on your campbellite church hit you in the back, you will leave it so fast.
Even under the criteria set forth by the born again movement, Saban would be covered, because in his heart he chose to be baptized. He chose Christ by going to the Baptismal fountain. The initial act of choosing Jesus Christ; or choosing to be baptized came before the water was poured...it couldn't be any other way unless his uncle tackled him and forced water upon him.
His heart sought and accepted Christ when he initially decided to be baptized.
Catholics are different, our parents bring us to Jesus. And their faith and commitment initiates us into Christianity like the Jews at circumcision. Are we automatically saved at 3 months? Of course not. Nobody is automatically saved as long as you have free will. You can lose your salvation anytime you want.