Sure it is! What is Jesus' Kingdom if not the church?418 388
I never said I could not find the word "church" in the Bible...Kingdom is not a definition of church...
#421485 Feb 11, 2013
#421487 Feb 11, 2013
So the pope is resigning. Interesting.......
#421488 Feb 11, 2013
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
The church will last forever just like the Kingdom.
The kingdom of Old Testament prophecy is the church.
#421489 Feb 11, 2013
Man's [obedient faith] responds to receive the gift that God is giving us.
#421490 Feb 11, 2013
How are souls saved?
Per the most important apparition in RCC history... Mary tells the world...
"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved..."
Clear as day -- devotion to Mary = saved souls.
At what point does "devotion to save one's soul = worship?
Either Mary is to be worshiped, or she is being used like a pimp uses his hoos -- for his own gain.
#421491 Feb 11, 2013
26 but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all the Gentiles might come to the [obedience] that comes from [faith—]
#421492 Feb 11, 2013
It is better understood in terms of it also being the Kingdom. The Kingdom is spoken of throughout the Bible OT and New. It is recorded in each gospel that Jesus said many in the crowd would not die until the Kingdom arrived with power. It arrived with power from the Holy Spirit in Acts 2. Later in Revelation when John is writing to the 7 churches he tells them he is with them in the Kingdom.
To deny this fact would be to deny that Jesus Christ is now currently an eternal King. If he has no current Kingdom what is He King of? Is Jesus not yet a King?
#421493 Feb 11, 2013
"The Church" and "The Kingdom" are two different descriptions of the same group of people that are of God.
#421494 Feb 11, 2013
Jesus who is "king" over the kingdom......
Jesus who is "head" over the church.......
#421495 Feb 11, 2013
#421496 Feb 11, 2013
“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”
Since: Jun 10
"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"
#421497 Feb 11, 2013
" Robert Dye"] wrote
"Clay, I really think it is time to just let them go. Let them turn and devour one another.
I have watched the same falsehood stated over and over.
"The Catholic Church teaches x."
"Um ... no. Here is the appropriate reference from the Catechism. The CC does NOT teach or practice what you are saying."
You Roman Catholics remind me of the former PREVARICATOR...President.... Bill Clinton.
YOU CLAIM NOT TO DO.... WHAT YOU HAVE DONE ...AND ARE CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN.
YOU MUST TAKE THE WHOLE WORLD TO BE A BUNCH OF BLIND FOOLS...
YOU TELL A LIE WHEN THE TRUTH FITS BETTER,,,
YOU WILL FIND OUT TO LATE...
THAT YOUR ROME GROWN RELIGION (CONSTANTIN-ISM ) IS
NOT CHRISTIANITY, WHEN YOU STAND IN JUDGMENT BEFORE GOD.
That God don't compromise his word
for any one.
#421498 Feb 11, 2013
devil is devil not agreement with devil
#421499 Feb 11, 2013
everything as devil want
it is written
#421500 Feb 11, 2013
here all this time I thought I was worshiping Jesus Christ. It took a really smart Pentecostal Baptist Evangelical (or whatever you are) to save me from the idolatry I was doing by worshiping Mary!
I got news for you, for every soul you steal away from the Eucharist using these lies, is a soul you'll need to explain to Christ someday.
It seems you guys cant function as a religion unless you bear false witness against Catholics.
(that is undeniable proof for me, that I indeed belong in the correct Church)
#421501 Feb 11, 2013
Robert, if all Catholics were Christians they would ALL be priests. 1 Pet. 2:5, 2:9
With a High Priest...
#421502 Feb 11, 2013
...and members of His church are "in Christ"
We are added to that number the same way the first Christians were added to the church in Acts 2:37-41. The "one" baptism and "one" faith of Eph. 4:5.
“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”
Since: Jun 10
"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"
#421503 Feb 11, 2013
If the billion Roman Catholics on earth were REAL Christians...
It would be a different world that we live in...WOULD IT NOT?
Since thy ONLY have a form of godliness and deny the power of God...
our world is ....
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness,
full of envy,
haters of God,
inventors of evil things,
disobedient to parents,
without natural affection,
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
AND THEY GLORY IN THEIR IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE UPON THE EARTH
#421504 Feb 11, 2013
I want to take your advice. It does seem silly to go round and round. I had good conversation with a non denominal born again guy at work. He is a serious Christian and is very interested in the Catholic faith since we've talked. He is also very puzzled why his pastor over in Wisconsin is telling him something totally different. There is no doubt he'll be in the RCIA Class next year.
On this thread, its not so easy. We have ignorance like I've never come across before; career ministers who need to keep teaching a certain way no matter what.
I should take your advice because the following example of a daily conversation on here is getting old:
"you guys worship Mary and saints"
no we do not.
"Yes you do, you just can't see it."
actually, we only worship God and would never think of Mary or the saints or statues as deities.
"I'm sure you don't think you worship them, but you do. God said to not bow down before statutes and you guys do. "
yes, but we don't worship them! We only God. Statues, Saints and Mary are not gods.
"I'm sure you don't think your worshiping them, but you are"
The bearing of false witness goes on and on and on.
#421505 Feb 11, 2013
Obviously you've seen the news about the pope and I was curious as to how can you resign when God supposedly has placed you in the position as His spokesman?
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