Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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How do you know you were saved?
How do you know you were filled with the Holy Ghost? Did you begin speaking in languages you'd never learned?
Why were you baptized?
Where do you find examples in scripture of conversions that happened in the same sequence as yours?
how did I KNOW that I was saved. the answer is obvious, I felt the Blood of jesus as it cleansed my soul.

Howe did I know that I was filled with the Holy Ghost.
the answer again is easy to tell. my body could not hold any more water afer it came gushing out of my belly.
did i speak in other langiages. NOPE, NEVER DID, AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL.

WHY WAS i BAPTISEED, BECAUSE THAT WAS GODS WILL IN MY SPIRITUAL WALK WITH HIM.

WHERE DO i FIND EXAMPLES? IN THE bIBLE. PEOPLE CALLED ON THE LORD AND WERE sAVED, THEN THEY WERE FILLED WITH THE hOLY GHOST AND AFTER THAT THEY WERE bAPTISED IN WATER. JUST LIKE ME.LOL.

MY HOLY GHOST EXPEIRENCE CAN ALSO BE FOUND IN SCRIPTURES. JOHN CHAPER 7 VERSES 37-39. READ THEM AND WEEP. MY CAMBELLITE "new friend" as robert f says.lol
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Salvation came from God by Grace it was a gift,
A works is something we do like getting baptized in water.
Baptism in the Holy Spirit is something God does to us, that is what equips us to do the works God has predestined before time.
If water baptism saved us , the man on the cross wouldn't have gone to Heaven with Jesus .
Jesus would not make an exception for anyone, the theif on the cross eyes were opened, He said to Jesus remember me when you come into your Kingdom He believe Jesus was the savior of his soul.
Jesus said you will be with me in Paradise this day.
He was baptised by the Holy Spirit to beable to have the truth in His heart.
Jesus said that to Peter , who do you say I am Peter stated you are the son of the true living God.
Jesus told Peter only the Holy Spirit could reveal that truth to him.
ON the Spirit of Truth Jesus is building His Spirit filled Spirit Lead Holy Church.
One soul at a time, Jesus isn't through building when He is He will come again.
LTM,using the line that the thief on the cross did not need baptism for salvation,is a mute point,he could not have come down off of that cross to receive water baptism.He was facing execution or dying on that cross,his legs were later broken to ensure his death. Hardly a time or place for the poor man to be baptized.

Baptism is part of the process of repentance as it were.When one repents they are seeking Christ's only remedy for salvation,HIMSELF(crucified,sh ed blood,dying,and RESSURECTION). Baptism is the physical response in believing that Christ died for our sins,as we go down into the water in BURIAL.It is ludicrous that any believer who is able to be baptized that they should not follow through after repentance,or a time given for such.

The B i b l e baptism in water is truly what we need to complete as it were that command of Christ to be born of the water and the Spirit.Water-Baptism,Spirit-Re pentance,and Conversion. Just because Jesus said the water first does not mean we should be baptized as infants.The Book of ACTS always describes the believers as believing,repenting and being baptized for the remission of sins.

Infant baptism in the light of the Scriptures as stated in the Book of Acts of the Apostles is like putting the cart before the horse.
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Who is light Paul or Jesus?
Naturally JESUS.The fact that the Apostle Paul is quoted so much,is that he authored a big part of the New Testament with his epistles. Are we to disregard what he says? NO.Paul had an insight into the things of God because the Lord gave that gift to him.Why did the early church place so many of Paul's epistles in the Bible?
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why you seek satanic kingdom..

Rosary will help you
who posses kingdom..

Someone who fall down
possessors as well deceivers
are not CREATOR.

How many Lords or God exist Pad?

Are you Creator Pad?

Did you fill shame say yes if are you not?

Could you forgive to child which belong to real God Creator or you judge and rest accuse as well abuse rights on life.
Did Lord do that?

If you not Creator did you fill shame yes i am?!

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<quoted text>Amen
John Baptizes Jesus
13Then came Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized by him.
14But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized by you, and come you to me?
15And Jesus answering said unto him, Permit it to be so now:........(for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.......... Then he permitted him.
16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up immediately out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
I guess AtemCowboy lied again saying he knows your a Cambellite of course this is way of implying God revealed it to him.
guess that you got caught in another lie,lol here is my post to this person and at no time did I indicate that he was a campbellite, but I did call mr saban a campbellite but he has already acknowledges that he belongs to the coc.when are you going to learn to rein in your hatred and get saved?

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Did you get baptized? Great! Me too, about 14 years ago.
Here's a little book why baptism is needed..
• Baptism: Is It really Necessary?
http://abc.eznettools.net/mobxpozd/baptism.ht ...

ME;

yes, of course, I got Baptised. nine months and three days after I was Saved, and nine months and one day after I was baptised with the Holy Ghost.just to inform everyone, I believe that when a person gets saved they receive the Spirit of Christ, this is different than Being Baptised in the Holy Ghost.

NOT A WORD ABOUT ME CALLING HIM A CAMPBELLITE BUT I SURE KNEW THAT YOU WERE A SDA.LOL
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Don't confuse the early Christians with modern day Evangelicals.
The Bible (to them) was the Hebrew books. Not the various letters and memoirs of The Apostles. Those did not yet become part of The Bible.
The Apostles were convinced Christ was coming back in their lifetime. They would never have thought to compile their writings into a Bible.
The Roman Catholic Church decided to do just that in the 4th and 5th century.
Thank God the Bible was compiled,if it was not,we would still be seeing souls crawling on their knees bloodied and torn,hoping that God would forgive them of their sins.Luther was appauled when he went to Rome and saw the poor being mortified in order to gain favor with God.In Luther's time the RCC sold indulgenses that varied in payment with who could afford such and such to gain a good spot in heaven.The Bible must have been written in books or scrolls,as Luther and other priests knew the New Testament.

Why is it that after the first century so much that is not in the Bible was practised,including mortification for sin and appeasement,the belief that if you wear such and such your time in purgatory will be short.If you say the rosary often or daily,Mary will answer your prayers,"devotion to our Lady,"which basically is not Scriptural. So much we cannot even touch the surface.It goes on and on,BUT we know for a fact that only Jesus saves by His precious Blood,and that in Christ we have our being.

I tremble at the thought of what would have happened if people like Luther did not confront the heresy purpetrated by the Papacy in his day.It seems to me God in Christ decided that enough was enough,His death and Resurrrection was not in vain.
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Oxbow wrote:
One of the greatest benefits afforded to every Christian is the privilege of answered prayers. In the Bible, Jesus made this tremendous promise,“And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive”(Matt 21:22). However, despite the Lord’s willingness to answer prayer, it is obvious that some prayers have gone unanswered.
Why is this? The following are the most common reasons why some prayers do not get results:
1. Lack of Fellowship with God and His word
2. Not seeking to Please the Lord
3. Unconfessed Sin in One’s Life
4. Improper Motives
5. Not asking in God’s will
6. Don’t know how to pray
7. Lack of Faith
8. Misunderstanding of Faith
9. Wavering faith
10. Failure to apply spiritual Authority
11. Lack of Perseverance
Powerful,truth,undeniably frank.
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Feb 10, 2013
 
when devil know time is short..a yes you want square everything in short time..did you..read better.
devil have short time..

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The apostles were baptized in a manner unlike the "one" baptism Paul speaks of in Eph. 4. It should be obvious that after the tongues as of fire came down upon them they could do things that you and I could not do after our baptism. They were the foundation and they needed to be able to work wonders to prove their message was from God so people would believe what they said. Today we have the Word which should be sufficient. Remember they "put away childish things" (i.e. miracle working).
most of the Apostles were already baptised by John, more than likely.

and where you are getting "tongues of fire" came down on them,that is not Biblical, so that means you are lying for some reason, what is it?

John chapter 20:22

And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

you are a newbie but you better know more than lies to tell us. we been over this road many times with campbellites, you people come and you dont stay long after being exposed. guest(the sda) stays because he is filled with hatred.
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Feb 10, 2013
 
we know who first come
is that your Creator..nooooooooooooooooo
10 years ago i need be killed and still day by day night by night some wicket satanic eyes..see

i am still alive corupt evil people don't have mercy..never will be lust sloth envy not going so easy from them nooooooooo
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Is that your Redeemer where who is in sleep waiting resurrection?
noooooooooooooooooooo
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Feb 10, 2013
 
you not honor me its lips not even love me

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyy
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Feb 10, 2013
 
devil have short time devil want everything do on short
is that your Redeemer or salvation

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooo
evil upon evil
curse upon curse
liars upon liars
liar from beginning

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Why did Peter instruct the people at Pentecost to be baptised for the remission of sins when they asked what they should do to be saved? You make a strong statement in your second sentance but you do not give the chapter and verse. I give you Acts 2:38. What do you give me?
Does what the ible says matter to your doctorine?
lol. for some reason, you left out the [key] word which is repent.

and all the way thru the Bible, THE ONLY WAY TO BE FORGIVEN BY GOD IS THRU REPENTANCE, NO OTHER WAY.

DID DAVID SEEK TO BE BAPTISED BY WATER WHEN HE SINNED, OF COURSE NOT ,SO DONT BE SO STUPID.here is what happened to help you out.

Then David said to Nathan,“I have sinned against the Lord.”

Nathan replied,“The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.

David acknowledged that he had sinned and that sin was against God and His laws, and he repented. and nathan told him that he was forgiven. men of God seem to know things like that.lol

seems like we get these campbellites every few years or so. glad Hank quit bringing his doctrine to this forum and sticks with just the Bible on other issues.
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ujoli satano za svojim poslom natrag

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The short of it Saban we are saved by faith not of works less anyone should boost.
Nothing we do even getting baptized in water saves us.
It is a works we do, we are saved by the works of Jesus Christ, on the cross for the remission of our sins
If we could save our selfs by being baptized in water Jesus would not have had to die on the cross.
When does a person repent?? an unsaved person won't repent and an unsaved person would not get baptized.
Repent and be baptized for the remission of sin , Remission is used to translate the Greek word of the Scriptures, pronounced af-es-is, which means freedom, particularly after a pardon.
repentance and remission of sins"
The remission of sins is made possible only by and through the shed blood of Jesus Christ, the Son of God
Peter preached repentance for the remission of sins:
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins" (Acts 2:38 KJV)
you are wrong on this statment.

and an unsaved person would not get baptized.

every person that belongs to the campbellite churches are unsaved yet they have been baptised, that is the false doctrine that they follow. they are every much as lost as the jw's.

however you will find that in the majority they are a much better class of people
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<quoted text>LTM,using the line that the thief on the cross did not need baptism for salvation,is a mute point,he could not have come down off of that cross to receive water baptism.He was facing execution or dying on that cross,his legs were later broken to ensure his death. Hardly a time or place for the poor man to be baptized.
Baptism is part of the process of repentance as it were.When one repents they are seeking Christ's only remedy for salvation,HIMSELF(crucified,sh ed blood,dying,and RESSURECTION). Baptism is the physical response in believing that Christ died for our sins,as we go down into the water in BURIAL.It is ludicrous that any believer who is able to be baptized that they should not follow through after repentance,or a time given for such.
The B i b l e baptism in water is truly what we need to complete as it were that command of Christ to be born of the water and the Spirit.Water-Baptism,Spirit-Re pentance,and Conversion. Just because Jesus said the water first does not mean we should be baptized as infants.The Book of ACTS always describes the believers as believing,repenting and being baptized for the remission of sins.
Infant baptism in the light of the Scriptures as stated in the Book of Acts of the Apostles is like putting the cart before the horse.
I don't believe LTM wrote that the thief did not receive a spiritual baptism with his salvation he said he did not need water baptism to be saved.

He was Baptized by and in the Holy Spirit and that is what matters.

To be obedient to the command of Jesus and have water Baptism is an outward demonstration of an inward baptism that has already occurred.

Water Baptism is declaring I HAVE BEEN Saved already.

If you die on the way to the water by a heart attack no worries its not needed the fact that you would if you could again is the conformation of the inside spiritual reality of salvation that has already taken place.

You don't have a water baptism to be or get saved you have a water baptism because you have already been saved and baptized in the Holy Spirit previous.

Let us not forget the confession of your faith that Jesus has become your LORD is also an outward sign of the new inward reality.

That's why infant water washing does not save because the infant cannot confess by their mouth of an inward spiritual change.

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Feb 10, 2013
 
natrag ajde tamo gdje gartan trava raste
natrag=gartan
who first descover america if apeache ape is already there
apeache=ehcaepa=nek se cepha nek se chepa nek se tarre tara tare terror terra seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

vaspuchi colombo chine who
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The roman catholic church is a secretive and powerful cult, centrally managed by an all male
executive and has far too bloody much to say for itself. When the revolution comes, after we've killed all the lawyers we will kill all the RC priests and that will be a good start.
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Feb 10, 2013
 
nemoj biti brezobrazan=shame of you

see
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7 december 41=pearl harbour
7 2+5=7 12 1+2=3
25 3
nemoj biti brezobrazan
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vidis li taj symbol what soldier have as sun

now

its only one

3x heaven 3x sun=nemoj kazat=don't tell
neko ima mapu i kodove

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