Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603384 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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alan

Kansas City, MO

#421317 Feb 10, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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The demons knew Jesus was Lord, right? We're they saved?
Only through the blood of Christ does my baptism have any meaning - I'll agree with you there.
Was Noah saved by water? Was Noah saved by the ark?
Was Noah saved by God's grace? Yes!
Did Noah believe in God? Yes. Was that enough to save him, or did he have to have an obedient faith?
Are we saved by God's grace? Yes!
But we, like Noah must have an obedient faith. Why is there so much attention given to baptism in scripture?
You can regugitate all the verses you want........brainwashed cult BS!!
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#421318 Feb 10, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Have I ever said we could save ourselves through baptism? That is a strawman argument. We're it not for God's grace no one could be saved - we agree on that point.
Was Noah saved by God's grace?
Noah worked according to what God's plan was in order to be saved.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#421319 Feb 10, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
EVEN DUCT TAPE CANT FIX STUPID(catholicism),
all it can do is muffle the sound
What would jesus do or say? I love watching 'christians' fighting each other!

god loves me best!

No, god loves me best!

You're going to Hell!

No way! You're going to Hell!

Didn't jesus say,'Love thy neighbor"?

You all sound like you listen to your jesus! LOL!
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#421320 Feb 10, 2013
marge wrote:
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Because water baptism is a picture of Holy Spirit Baptism, a teaching tool about a new birth in Christ Jesus, by getting water baptized Paul was showing he believed in and received Jesus as his Saviour.
Marge.....

I have tried to explain to you several times....

Holy Spirit baptism that the APOSTLES received WAS NOT/IS NOT in water......it is BAPTISM of the HOLY SPIRIT w/fire (POWER)......

We DO NOT/CANNOT receive this baptism today.....
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#421321 Feb 10, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is not worthless meaning to Catholics. I hope you don't think that. Its Sacred Scripture. And along with Sacred Traditions, they flow together in perfect harmony.
One of The 42,000 Christian sects would be the original. Therefore they'd have the authority. I'm sorry, but I just can't see how the current group that calls itself the "Church of Christ" could be the original. Who are their Apostolic fathers? Where are their other writings outside of The Bible? Who were some of their early leaders? The Catholic Church can show its the same body from the first century. Now, whether or not this group became corrupted under Constantine is a hot debate. But that would not be Biblical, because Christ promised the gates of hell wouldn't prevail against His Church. Therefore, a Roman Emperor surely would not either.
I think we will all agree the early leaders of the church were the Apostles. Jesus is the cornerstone, they are the foundation. The book 'Traces of the Kingdom' does a nice job of highlighting Christ's church throughout history. I'm not saying that the Catholic Church doesn't have a direct line back to the original church Christ established, but it doesn't operate, it isn't governed, nor does it worship in the same manner the church did in the 1st Century.

The people in the church of Christ are the same as the people in any church - imperfect. And, if the message conflicts with the scriptures, I don't believe it is the church of Christ. Of the seven churches spoken of in Revelation, many had issues and only two were shown as examples of how the church should be.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#421322 Feb 10, 2013
Truth,

I haven't been here long, but so far I am in agreement with all of your replies to my posts.

Thanks for the additional comments.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#421323 Feb 10, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
Women catholic priests website.
http://romancatholicwomenpriests.org/ordained...
BIG CHANGES are coming....the followers will demand it.
Prodigal son rebellious and defiant (so-called Catholics) can "demand" all they want! Fact is that NO ONE is listening to their
beligerent "demands" of "secular humanism" Christianity!
Big changes in the Catholic Church will NEVER COME from "emancipated liberal nuns" or "politically correct (rebel Catholics). If they "don't like" the TRUE biblical, historical and doctrinal TRUE teachings of the Catholic Church, NO ONE is begging them to say!! They can "go down the block" to one of the nearest 42,000+ contracting and inconsistent Protestant Churches and they will (pacify, appease and tell them (exactly)"what they want to hear'!--More chaos, more confusion, more secular humanism and more conflicting "personal opinion" bible only mis-interpretating "hodge-podge" of Sacred Scripture. The fact is Michael---you can too can join them, and then you can "continue" your attacking and ripping on what they teach. Good luck!! Don't let the door hit you on your "rear end" as you leave!!!

Since: Nov 08

usa

#421324 Feb 10, 2013
two days no power,got 26" of snow,anyone else get wacked by this storm? have i missed anything? did hojo,regina or anothony answer my question yet? or are they still stone walling?
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#421325 Feb 10, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>

The right thing to do. Be TRUTHFUL.
Yes! That is what we as Catholics have been telling you over and over again! BE TRUTHFUL!! Unfortunately--"TRUTH " has escaped you and is not a word in your vocabulary!! Exaggerated and "overblown" National Inquire kind of distorted (truth?????) is the ONLY thing you know, post and read. "No wonder" you left the Catholic Church!! "No wonder you have rejected, twisted and manipulated" the TRUE FACTS and the TRUTH of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church!!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#421326 Feb 10, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Prodigal son rebellious and defiant (so-called Catholics) can "demand" all they want! Fact is that NO ONE is listening to their
beligerent "demands" of "secular humanism" Christianity!
Big changes in the Catholic Church will NEVER COME from "emancipated liberal nuns" or "politically correct (rebel Catholics). If they "don't like" the TRUE biblical, historical and doctrinal TRUE teachings of the Catholic Church, NO ONE is begging them to say!! They can "go down the block" to one of the nearest 42,000+ contracting and inconsistent Protestant Churches and they will (pacify, appease and tell them (exactly)"what they want to hear'!--More chaos, more confusion, more secular humanism and more conflicting "personal opinion" bible only mis-interpretating "hodge-podge" of Sacred Scripture. The fact is Michael---you can too can join them, and then you can "continue" your attacking and ripping on what they teach. Good luck!! Don't let the door hit you on your "rear end" as you leave!!!
Why do you get so angry because society in general is MOVING away from what you believe?

The best country in the world the USA and in less than 450 years the protestant movements have established 50% of the population of america while catholicsm stands at 23% after 2,000 years.

Today, MOST catholics reside in poor uneducated countries where education and learning abilities is far down the priority list.

off topic:

Deceased Cardinal Carlos Martini says the roman catholic church is 200 years behind the times. Do you disagree with the good Cardinal?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21974...

One day in the not too distant future roman catholic priests will be given the choice of optional celebacy, and you then HOJO will say "WHAT A GREAT IDEA" or will you say "I WILL NOT FOLLOW THOSE NEW TEACHINGS"

You will do as they tell you. You are not allowed to use your own conscience while you are a catholic.

Keep doing what they tell you, shut down your mind, and put it on cruise control.

something is terribly wrong HOJO....

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#421327 Feb 10, 2013
250
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Powerful,truth,undenia bly frank.
Reason???? It is based on Scripture....
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#421328 Feb 10, 2013
Today right across america by far MOST roman catholics use or have used forms of birth control the catholic church says is sinful.

Today MOST Roman catholics do not attend mandatory sunday mass weekly. Bishops in america claim less than 1 in 4 catholics practice weekly mass attendance. The church says its a mortal sin.

Its obvious catholics in greater numbers are out of complete touch with the church they were baptized in.

There might be 68 million american catholics but only a few million actually practice what is preached to them.......that is not good!



MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#421329 Feb 10, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is not worthless meaning to Catholics. I hope you don't think that. Its Sacred Scripture. And along with Sacred Traditions, they flow together in perfect harmony.
One of The 42,000 Christian sects would be the original. Therefore they'd have the authority. I'm sorry, but I just can't see how the current group that calls itself the "Church of Christ" could be the original. Who are their Apostolic fathers? Where are their other writings outside of The Bible? Who were some of their early leaders? The Catholic Church can show its the same body from the first century. Now, whether or not this group became corrupted under Constantine is a hot debate. But that would not be Biblical, because Christ promised the gates of hell wouldn't prevail against His Church. Therefore, a Roman Emperor surely would not either.
Clay, what is your opinion on the vatican bank money laundering scandals? This story was HUGE last year in western europe.

What say you, the knower of everything catholic? I am sure you are concerned of wrong doings.

http://www.justmeans.com/Black-As-Sin-Vatican...

Bank scandals, abuse scandals, wayward nuns in america, priests forming unions, Vatican cardinal claiming the church is wayyyy behind the times........not looking good Claypool.

something is terribly wrong! I am sure you as a financial and spiritual contributor is concerned.

I thought the holy spirit guided the church. Interesting!!

alan

Kansas City, MO

#421330 Feb 10, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
Today right across america by far MOST roman catholics use or have used forms of birth control the catholic church says is sinful.
Today MOST Roman catholics do not attend mandatory sunday mass weekly. Bishops in america claim less than 1 in 4 catholics practice weekly mass attendance. The church says its a mortal sin.
Its obvious catholics in greater numbers are out of complete touch with the church they were baptized in.
There might be 68 million american catholics but only a few million actually practice what is preached to them.......that is not good!
Priests practice birth control on young boys. Wait, different form of birth control.So, religions do practice what they preach.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#421331 Feb 10, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
Truth,
I haven't been here long, but so far I am in agreement with all of your replies to my posts.
Thanks for the additional comments.
You are welcome....
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#421332 Feb 10, 2013
marge wrote:
(QUOTE)
[[Baptism by immersion, while it is the most biblical mode of identifying with Christ, is not (as some believe) a prerequisite for salvation. It is rather an act of obedience, a public proclamation of faith in Christ and identification with Him. Baptism is a picture of our leaving our old life and becoming a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). Baptism by immersion is the only mode that fully illustrates this radical change.]](QUOTE)
YEP!!!
Marge,

How do you become "into Christ???"
Clay

United States

#421333 Feb 10, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I think we will all agree the early leaders of the church were the Apostles. Jesus is the cornerstone, they are the foundation. The book 'Traces of the Kingdom' does a nice job of highlighting Christ's church throughout history. I'm not saying that the Catholic Church doesn't have a direct line back to the original church Christ established, but it doesn't operate, it isn't governed, nor does it worship in the same manner the church did in the 1st Century.
The people in the church of Christ are the same as the people in any church - imperfect. And, if the message conflicts with the scriptures, I don't believe it is the church of Christ. Of the seven churches spoken of in Revelation, many had issues and only two were shown as examples of how the church should be.
Actually, the CC operates very similar as in the first century- they had Bishops Priests and Deacons then too. I'm not saying they immediately built the Vatican and had offices etc.
Also, the teachings never changed. By that, I mean nothing was ever taught to mean opposite of what was already revealed. I believe this is why the CC looks so different then every other Christian group except the Eastern Orthodox- who's teachings are also from the Apostles, therefore do not change.(well, there is that Papacy thing they disagree with. but 99% of our theology is the same)
Clay

United States

#421334 Feb 10, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay, what is your opinion on the vatican bank money laundering scandals? This story was HUGE last year in western europe.
What say you, the knower of everything catholic? I am sure you are concerned of wrong doings.
http://www.justmeans.com/Black-As-Sin-Vatican...
Bank scandals, abuse scandals, wayward nuns in america, priests forming unions, Vatican cardinal claiming the church is wayyyy behind the times........not looking good Claypool.
something is terribly wrong! I am sure you as a financial and spiritual contributor is concerned.
I thought the holy spirit guided the church. Interesting!!
The real question is: Why does an Atheist care so much about the Catholic Church???

anyway, no Mike, the bank scandal was not HUGE. People like you try and blow up and recycle this crap every chance you get. But that doesn't make it HUGE breaking news!

Most importantly Mike, the Church is no more in a crisis today, then any other decade since 33 AD.

Entire nations left the Catholic Church overnight during the reformation. Thousands of Priests left. Catholicism was made illegal throughout England and her colonies.
The Holy Spirit saw the Church right thru it.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#421335 Feb 10, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The real question is: Why does an Atheist care so much about the Catholic Church???
anyway, no Mike, the bank scandal was not HUGE. People like you try and blow up and recycle this crap every chance you get. But that doesn't make it HUGE breaking news!
Most importantly Mike, the Church is no more in a crisis today, then any other decade since 33 AD.
Entire nations left the Catholic Church overnight during the reformation. Thousands of Priests left. Catholicism was made illegal throughout England and her colonies.
The Holy Spirit saw the Church right thru it.
Clay, you cannot truly believe the RCC is the one, true church for this entire universe??
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#421336 Feb 10, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, the CC operates very similar as in the first century- they had Bishops Priests and Deacons then too. I'm not saying they immediately built the Vatican and had offices etc.
Also, the teachings never changed. By that, I mean nothing was ever taught to mean opposite of what was already revealed. I believe this is why the CC looks so different then every other Christian group except the Eastern Orthodox- who's teachings are also from the Apostles, therefore do not change.(well, there is that Papacy thing they disagree with. but 99% of our theology is the same)
Each congregation would have Elders (Bishops) and Deacons - that's ALL. Each congregation answered to God and God alone. No boards, no overseers, no hierarchy. Only the Word as a guide. No one from the outside made decisions for them or told them who their preacher would be etc. They didn't practice infant baptism. Being in Christ, they could go directly to God with their petitions. Who went to a confessional in the first century church? Each member of the church was a priest. They practiced the Lord's Supper on the first day of the week and they did not use 'music' in thier worship with the exception of their God given voices singing hymns together.

Wouldn't that be completely different from the experience at a typical Catholic Church this morning?

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