WOW I did not realise TRUTH was not saved until just now. Thanks for the thumbs up !!!!<quoted text>lol. tell me how much [work] does God put into us telling a minister that we want to get Baptised? how much work does God do while we walk out into a river?
God Saves us and He doesnt have to do any [work] to do that.it is a gift/
in the kjv, the word working is not used. instead it uses the word [operation].
Baptism is [something] that we do in [obediance] to His Will, after we are Saved. if you hank, would ever get Saved, then you would understand, until then, you are like the catholics, they dont understand and neither do you.
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#421370 Feb 10, 2013
Since: Jan 08
#421371 Feb 10, 2013
saban is a campbellite just as Hank is, they, like the catholics and the jw's are indoctrinated into beleive what there church teaches and not what the bible teaches, even tho they will try and twist what It teaches.
and I agree with you, the greatest miracle is when God Saves a sinner.by the Blood of Jesus, not river Baptism nor tap water
#421372 Feb 10, 2013
I only used geography when talking about China. Not the CC.
you seem like a nice guy, but you're failing miserably to convince me of your theology. Your conspiracy Christianity works on some Brazilians I suppose..
Since: Apr 08
Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.
#421373 Feb 10, 2013
You and I both know the RC is Bible based.
Well of course, since your church has only been in existence since 1922. lol
Too bad we cant check the record of the Pentecostal church 2000 years from now.
[if its still around]
Still doing the same here, gif attacks we defend. Be sure to call your brother gif on his insults of the One True Church.
Some things never change.
Regarding the posts visit I will surly post pics here to keep you updated..
Pope Benedict XVI visit to Brazil in 2007, Pope Benedict XVI presided over the ..... for Catholic youth, where he addressed some 25,000 young people in attendance.
Its no joke when 25,000 attend mass.
Since: Jan 08
#421374 Feb 10, 2013
yeah, I have seen you campbellites say that your church was there at the beginning. but we know that you are a liar when you say that.if any church can make that claim, it would be the baptsit church, but to Christians, we all know that it is the Born Again church that was first and only church.
so go ahead and shake the dust off of your feet. just shows how dirty that you are. not spiritual.
#421375 Feb 10, 2013
sorry Preston, but you don't have the authority to undo infant Baptism. Id be careful, because if it is the will of Christ to bring Him the children at Baptism (like the Jews bring their children to God at circumcision) then you're going to be held into account. What are you going to tell Christ, that you read in the Bible that infants should not be Baptized?? Jesus will say, "show me book, chapter and verse where I said to not Baptize infants"
Christ said, "bring me the children, do not hinder them".
#421376 Feb 10, 2013
I didn't know Catholics didn't own their homes and that they gave all they made to the Bank of Vatican for redistribution as the Apostles see fit.
Who are the Apostles today? The board of the Bank of Vatican?
#421377 Feb 10, 2013
Wait a second... that guy is a Pentecostal?? Wow.
Since: Jan 08
#421378 Feb 10, 2013
doesnt mean that I called him a campbellite, does it. Hank is on here too.lol
saban and hank, that makes two and two is plural.
when are you going to leave that hatred behind and get saved?
#421379 Feb 10, 2013
I'm sure you intended to say Christian. I've never known or studied Campbell, but I belong to Christ's church and can defend that point biblically.
#421380 Feb 10, 2013
King James Version (KJV)
38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
Since: Jan 08
#421381 Feb 10, 2013
infant baptism is a waste of time and all it does is make the baby cry, the baby is safe as far as Heaven is concerned and I would hate to think that a good man like you clay, would say that a baby would go to hell if it was not baptised.
I am glad that I know better. my baby died at the age of 15 days.Iahd him home only two days before he died. On athursday night, i did take him to church with me and we took him to the altar and dedicated him to the Lord(no baptism).
and later after he died, God showed me in a vision that Jerrod was safe in the "cleft of a large moutain".I hope to see him some day in heaven with my parents and those who have went on before me.
until then, my mom is rocking him and singing good ole Gospel songs to him.
Since: Jan 08
#421382 Feb 10, 2013
nope. I meant to say that Hank is a campbellite, a real nice guy but nonetheless a campbellite, and on some things we have agreed to disagree but when he says that miracles and gifts of the spirit are now gone, then I am not going to stand for that.
oh, I am certain that you can defend your church and its false doctrine. all of you can but fortunately, i have heard it for 20 years or so.lol
#421383 Feb 10, 2013
StarC, we are chosen by God (called) if God chooses us surely He will teach us His Holy Scriptures.
How?? by the Holy Spirit, who Jesus said would lead us to all truths.
Or do you not believe God; or do you not understand what is written in the Bible the book catholic's like to take credit for giving the world.
Truth is the catholic church tried to keep it from the world , so they burned the different translations of it.
Anyone who did translate it was killed. so the catholic churches lies won't be exposed.
Luther was a catholic, and understood the lies that were being told and by the Grace of God refused to go along with the lies.
No wonder cathoic's hate him he humiliated them in public and nail it to the church doors ,LOL
King James Version (KJV)
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
#421384 Feb 10, 2013
Are you against music being played in church Saban.
What about the children of Israel, did they not play the tamborine, didn't King David play a harp and sing to God.
Praise to the Creator and Preserver
Rejoice in the LORD, O ye righteous:
for praise is comely for the upright.
Praise the LORD with harp:
sing unto him with the psaltery and an instrument of ten strings.
Sing unto him a new song;
play skilfully with a loud noise.
For the word of the LORD is right;
and all his works are done in truth.
He loveth righteousness and judgment:
the earth is full of the goodness of the LORD.
By the word of the LORD were the heavens made;
and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
He gathereth the waters of the sea together as a heap:
he layeth up the depth in storehouses.
Let all the earth fear the LORD:
let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.
For he spake, and it was done;
he commanded, and it stood fast.
The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought:
he maketh the devices of the people of none effect.
The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever,
the thoughts of his heart to all generations.
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD;
and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
The LORD looketh from heaven;
he beholdeth all the sons of men.
From the place of his habitation he looketh
upon all the inhabitants of the earth.
He fashioneth their hearts alike;
he considereth all their works.
There is no king saved by the multitude of a host:
a mighty man is not delivered by much strength.
A horse is a vain thing for safety:
neither shall he deliver any by his great strength.
Behold, the eye of the LORD is upon them that fear him,
upon them that hope in his mercy;
to deliver their soul from death,
and to keep them alive in famine.
Our soul waiteth for the LORD:
he is our help and our shield.
For our heart shall rejoice in him,
because we have trusted in his holy name.
Let thy mercy, O LORD, be upon us,
according as we hope in thee.
#421385 Feb 10, 2013
Its not about the baby only. Its about the two parents bringing forth their child and Baptizing them into Christianity. Its the covenant of the family that Jesus wishes to initiate. Later in life, that baby will have the ability to confirm their Baptismal vows made by their parents before God. This is the Sacrament of Confirmation that Catholic, Orthodox and some Protestants go through at an age of maturity.
And please cut with your stories of visions and mystical encounters with God. It didn't happen.
Do you know how I know? Because your demeanor to your fellow man is not becoming of someone who saw Christ face to face or was given a vision by God..
#421386 Feb 10, 2013
I guess you forgot about the Children of Israel, who sang song of Worship and Praise .
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Sovereignty of the Lord in Creation and History
1 Rejoice in the Lord, O you righteous!
For praise from the upright is beautiful.
2 Praise the Lord with the harp;
Make melody to Him with an instrument of ten strings.
3 Sing to Him a new song;
Play skillfully with a shout of joy.
4 For the word of the Lord is right,
And all His work is done in truth.
5 He loves righteousness and justice;
The earth is full of the goodness of the Lord.
6 By the word of the Lord the heavens were made,
And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.
7 He gathers the waters of the sea together as a heap;[a]
He lays up the deep in storehouses.
8 Let all the earth fear the Lord;
Let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of Him.
9 For He spoke, and it was done;
He commanded, and it stood fast.
10 The Lord brings the counsel of the nations to nothing;
He makes the plans of the peoples of no effect.
11 The counsel of the Lord stands forever,
The plans of His heart to all generations.
12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord,
The people He has chosen as His own inheritance.
13 The Lord looks from heaven;
He sees all the sons of men.
14 From the place of His dwelling He looks
On all the inhabitants of the earth;
15 He fashions their hearts individually;
He considers all their works.
16 No king is saved by the multitude of an army;
A mighty man is not delivered by great strength.
17 A horse is a vain hope for safety;
Neither shall it deliver any by its great strength.
18 Behold, the eye of the Lord is on those who fear Him,
On those who hope in His mercy,
19 To deliver their soul from death,
And to keep them alive in famine.
20 Our soul waits for the Lord;
He is our help and our shield.
21 For our heart shall rejoice in Him,
Because we have trusted in His holy name.
22 Let Your mercy, O Lord, be upon us,
Just as we hope in You.
#421387 Feb 10, 2013
This is a cage match. lol. we've got Pentecostals, some Baptist guy, another Baptist guy....a Church of Christ man, a evangelical and SDA dude.
All using the Catholic Bible to duke it out. All claiming sola scriptura. All claiming the Holy Spirit reveals the Biblical truths to them!!
The only thing they have in common, is they hate the Catholic Church.
#421388 Feb 10, 2013
There is only one Church and it has existed since the time of Jesus he founded it the Gospel is the Cornerstone.
YOUR institution called the RCC is a sect that has biblical doctrine and non biblical doctrine like Mary worship and prayers to the dead among many others.
The List is extensive.
I trace my spiritual heritage through the Spirit of God and am United through him to the Body of Christ Past Present and Future.
I do not need an earthly membership card his seal is on my heart.
I need not belong to your heretical sect no more than I need belong to the Lutheran Sect to be in the fullness of God.
What is plain to those who are truly indwelt with the HOLY Spirit the comforter who was sent by Jesus is the RCC has become exactly what the Pharisees were in the NT church.
just as you try to point out four square leadership issues in the past their splinters, you ignore the Board in your RCC's eye.
StarC you walk in Pride.
You love to be able to say I belong to thee one I am in you are out I have you don't.
Never once accepting historical facts
Never once accepting Biblical facts
That are in direct contradiction to your assertions.
God Bless you do have much compassion I have sensed in your posts in the past
#421389 Feb 10, 2013
I only used geography about china your write LOL
so I apply my rules to everything but myself is what your saying.
BTW I am not trying to convince you of anything, for those who are seeking and reading along you are but a means to end to show the you as a Roman Catholic have'nt a clue to that which you claim to know.
Thanks for that.
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