Although I tolerate with compassion those who are stupid,I agree with you 150% here preston.It is incredible what people will believe to put Mary on that pedestal she was never suppose to be on from the very time of her precious life here.<quoted text>where did you find this gem of info that Joseph had been married for over 50 years when he married Mary?
common sense tells me this, either you are lying or your info is a lie.
this would have made jospeh over 70 years old, and no doubt to feeble to walk all of the distance down to egypt.
dont people like you have any common sense or did the nums beat that out of you idiots.BTW, I HATE STUPIDITY
Catholics and Orthodox pride themselves in saying they believed these things about Mary long before the Reformation and so on.The problem iwth that? They do not tell us that there were priests,and scholars of those times who refuted the MARIAN doctrines as they surfaced.JUST because the general concensus was to promote latria worship of Mary,does not negate the very challenge that was made to reject such worship to begin with.
The Apostles and LUKE in the New Testament N E V E R give us any reason to worship or venerate Mary in the way Catholics and Orthodox do.They claim that they received what the Apostles taught,but there is no word from the Apostles to support Marian doctrines,nor do the early church fathers ever say a certain Apostle told them to believe in the Immaculate Conception of Mary,or that she was ever-virgin.I have some books on early church fathers and their sayings,and they never say"The Apostle Peter told me or whoever that Mary was ever-virgin"or that the Apostle Paul said those things about Mary.NO other Apostle is said to have claimed Mary's Immaculate birth,nor her ever-virginity.LUKE never even alluded to such a fact either,and he had more than ample time in personally interviewing Mary himself to arrive at the conclusions of the Orthodox and Catholic tradition concerning Marian doctrines.