Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420165 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
There will be no rude awakening for anyone who asks Mary for help.
If I was Jesus, and someone honored my Mother AND asked her to talk to me, I would not be offended one bit. In fact, I would encourage all to love my Mother. She took care of me since birth. She fed me and clothed me. When I needed assistance I went to her. When I cried she was there. If I'm Jesus Christ, you could not please me more, than if you loved and honored my Mom.
By all means, if you're going to ask your biological mom for prayers, Preston, then you surely can ask Mary for prayers.
You would think since Percy believe the soul is conscious after death that Mary and all who have passed could hear your prayers that they also pray for your soul God in Christ name.
Go Figure.

Of course I belive as per scripture we sleep til the resurrection.
truth

Perth, Australia

#420166 Feb 5, 2013
feet
how its look with you Jesus
burning
under feet..i just return from bath..burning..feet as you see totaly burning in water when you go in bath
its sticky..does meter how much water past..still is hot..
do you understood prayers
do you understood Cross
do you understood suffering
do you understood cleansing trough prayers
do you understood him Jesus Christ

hell and your meaning
you show that to me

ispod nogu stenje
pakla zmaj
ispod nogu=under feet

do you understood transfer meaning
do you understood spiritual cleansing
how i fill when i pray

for long time i fill right side of shoulder

then ear

now lags feet hands

burning when you go in water under feet in bath..
under feet=tabani=talibani
tabani=feet
as fire
how much degree
raspadno stanje=very sticky

i fill very well
i am alright
i am still alive
my heart is very inside peace
i constantly asked myself
o where are come-from my energy
or elixir fill like that..

burning feet
taliban=taban=feet

now
do you understood meaning CROSS
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#420167 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
That's interesting coming from a man of faith?
Do you have any proof of your theology? OTHER than your opinion of what the Bible says?
Your opinion about Joseph...just like I thought. thanks
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#420168 Feb 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Anthony says..........you should link the protestant and public school discussion boards.
Michael says......ANTHONY!! did you forget what Father Rob said to you yesterday?
.....remember!!
Father Rob says.....
...."Throwing a rock at someone else's house is not the appropriate response to a scandal of our own"
Michael agrees......
For you Michael, we are just throwing "pebbles" but if you continue down this "merry-go-round" anti-catholic "hate" carnival that you are so" addicted to" we (as Catholics) will "still" avoid the "rock throwing" and resort to the use of "boulders"!!!For people like you, "tough love" (along with prayer) seems to be the only way of "getting through" your "Unbelievably "busted" mind, heart and soul!!!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420169 Feb 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
He's right. I won't be pasting stories of abuse in protestant communities anymore.
....and neither will I.

Lets talk about something else.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420170 Feb 5, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
For you Michael, we are just throwing "pebbles" but if you continue down this "merry-go-round" anti-catholic "hate" carnival that you are so" addicted to" we (as Catholics) will "still" avoid the "rock throwing" and resort to the use of "boulders"!!!For people like you, "tough love" (along with prayer) seems to be the only way of "getting through" your "Unbelievably "busted" mind, heart and soul!!!
What is this? Pick on Michael day.

"Not the boulders!!" please!
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#420171 Feb 5, 2013
St. Augustine teaches us when he says:“We should act with beneficial rigor against recalcitrant persons, because he who loses the liberty to practice evil is more easily conquered for the good. Nothing is more unfortunate than the happiness of sinners, which allows them to do wrong with impunity and confirms them in their bad will”(Ep. 138 ad Marcel, Migne, PL, 33, 531).
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420172 Feb 5, 2013
Catlickers wrote:
<quoted text>
There is only one intercessor and that is Jesus everything else is akin to voodoo.
How can someone with the name CAT LICKER be talking about Jesus?

You know why a cat licks itself? Because it can. Mee-ow!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420173 Feb 5, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>I could out do the both of you,it's my favorite fruit :)
What does your BREATH-O-METER read when you are done?
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#420174 Feb 5, 2013
Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
Depends on what you mean by "actions."
I imagine Cardinal Ratsinger's primary interest would have been disciplinary actions taken under Church law. Did you take this man out of ministry? Was it done according to canon law? What do you have him doing now? What steps are you taking to avoid such cases in the future?
These are what would be the area of review for the CDF. In HINDSIGHT, it is easy to say that the CDF should ALSO have been adressing how bishops were dealing with (or in too many cases, NOT DEALING WITH) civil authorities.
I can see how they made the mistake. It would be near epic folly for an office in Rome to try to keep up on laws on this stuff in every jurisdiction around the world.(There is enough variability - or was - in just the USA for it to be pretty confusing). It would probably be thought that the civil implications and pastoral response (tending to needs of victims and their families) be left to those close to the situation.
Obviously, THAT does not work (we're seeing the same samned thing with public schools and the boy scouts just now, unfortunately). There is an almost universal instinct to try to cover your failures.
I doubt if Cardinal Ratsinger knew how Mahoney was covering things up ... how he was focused on "avoiding civil litigation" and manipulting US laws by hiding the perps in other jurisdictions.
... I may get some points wrong.) In many cases, priests set to Servants ofte Paraclete were not welcome to return home.(I ca't say how often this was the Mahoney strategy.) Pronounced "cured," they were given assignments by the local bishop, and this proved to be a major mistake and disaster.
Conventional wisdom on this is STILL evolving. We know you can never return an offender to an assignment involving chidren.
This means NO parish assignment, and NO hospital ministry.
One might assume this means defrocking them, but that may not be such a good idea.
Benedict faced harsh criticism over a case in California where hedragged his feet on defrocking a priest who had already been removed from ministry.(60 minutes did a real hatchet job of Benedict on this one.) Benedict finally caved, and defrocked the guy, which gave hom the right to marry in the Church. He did, to a woman with young children, and guess what happened?(In my opinion, Benedict bears some culpability in this case. But you can't have it both ways. If Benedict is culpable for giving this guy permission to leave the priesthood and marry, how han he ALSO be blamed when he was dragging his feet, and expressing doubts that this should be permitted. Turns out he was right, and should have stood his ground, but the outcry, the outcry ... that he was "protecting an abuser," and "failing to protect childten." The man had been removed from ministry. The civil authorities were declining to prosecute. hat more could B do?)
Out of space. Sorry ..... edited for bevity
"It would be near epic folly for an office in Rome to try to keep up on laws on this stuff in every jurisdiction around the world."

With an eye to the topic of this board... with perfect teachings on morals, why would man's law matter in such cases?

As for "conventional treatment," etc., I believe that most of what was done was for the sole purpose of protecting the Church.

If what you presume were correct, why would anyone at the Vatican NOT welcome and open and honest investigation, a la Penn State. Or perhaps, limited testimony and release of specific documents, instead of standing wholly behind diplomatic immunity?

This does not conform with the RCC's claim of perfect teachings on morals.

This does not conform with Jesus' words in the Bible.

I (along with much of the rest of the world) believe that the handling of this decades-long issue is not indicative of an "ONLY TRUE" or morally-superior institution.

Average maybe, but far from morally superior. That's the reality IMHO.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420175 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
There will be no rude awakening for anyone who asks Mary for help.
If I was Jesus, and someone honored my Mother AND asked her to talk to me, I would not be offended one bit. In fact, I would encourage all to love my Mother. She took care of me since birth. She fed me and clothed me. When I needed assistance I went to her. When I cried she was there. If I'm Jesus Christ, you could not please me more, than if you loved and honored my Mom.
By all means, if you're going to ask your biological mom for prayers, Preston, then you surely can ask Mary for prayers.
Clay says......

....There will be no rude awakening for anyone who asks Mary for help.

Michael says......whats all this help everyone needs? I am 63 years old figured things out myself and never needed to ask for any spiritual help/guidance ever.

What is it you are doing wrong, that you need all this help?
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#420176 Feb 5, 2013
I answer that, Just as we need patience in things done against us, so do we need it in those said against us. Now the precepts of patience in those things done against us refer to the preparedness of the mind, according to Augustine's (De Sermone Domini in Monte i,19) exposition on our Lord's precept, "If one strike thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the other": that is to say, a man ought to be prepared to do so if necessary. But he is not always bound to do this actually: since not even did our Lord do so, for when He received a blow, He said: "Why strikest thou Me?" (John 18:23). Consequently the same applies to the reviling words that are said against us. For we are bound to hold our minds prepared to submit to be reviled, if it should be expedient. Nevertheless it sometimes behooves us to withstand against being reviled, and this chiefly for two reasons. First, for the good of the reviler; namely, that his daring may be checked, and that he may not repeat the attempt, according to Proverbs 26:5, "Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he imagine himself to be wise." Secondly, for the good of many who would be prevented from progressing in virtue on account of our being reviled. Hence Gregory says (Hom. 9 super Ezech.): "Those who are so placed that their life should be an example to others, ought, if possible, to silence their detractors, lest their preaching be not heard by those who could have heard it, and they continue their evil conduct through contempt of a good life."
Summa Theologica
Treatise on the Cardinal Virtues
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420177 Feb 5, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
St. Augustine teaches us when he says:“We should act with beneficial rigor against recalcitrant persons, because he who loses the liberty to practice evil is more easily conquered for the good. Nothing is more unfortunate than the happiness of sinners, which allows them to do wrong with impunity and confirms them in their bad will”(Ep. 138 ad Marcel, Migne, PL, 33, 531).
Regina M. says.....

....Nothing is more unfortunate than the happiness of sinners, which allows them to do wrong with impunity and confirms them in their bad will”

Michael says......Aren't you a sinner? Don't you sometimes express happiness?

BUSTED!

Since: Nov 08

usa

#420178 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text> my beloved Vikings will make it. I just hope they do it while Peterson is here, because he deserves a ring. I'm glad you're a Vikings fan!
Responding to your previous post about Catholicism (traditions) not supposedly found in scriptures.
I assure you that every inch of Catholicism is somehow found in scriptures. Much of it is so deep rooted and entwined with the Church that its hard to explicitly see on the surface. This is what leads many notable Evangelical Pastors into the Catholic Church. They dive deeper and deeper into the Bible and read it thru the eyes of the authors; thru the eyes of the first Christians. Its there you see the teachings of the Catholic Church.
The simple fact is Jesus Christ established a Church per scripture. You can not find anywhere, where He established a Bible, per scripture.
Protestantism is built on Sola Scripture. This is not what Christ taught. This is not what the Apostles taught. In fact, this is not what any known Christian taught until 1,600 yrs after Christ!
Thus, Protestantism is a doctrinal mess.
they need another reciever or good tight-end to go along with percy harven and peterson to help carry the load,plus their defense needs work they give up to many big plays,and i figured that area would improve a lot when they hired frazier who is a defensive minded coach....catholic traditions are in the bible? examples,worshipping mary?praying to other saints? confessing to a priest (man),changing the sabbath? changing the commandments? daily mass? one day (saturday)was set aside for a day of worship/mass.to god,so where in the bible do you find all these traditions? and if they are in the bible wouldn't all denominations follow these traditions?....Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, "by scripture alone") is the doctrine that the Bible contains all knowledge necessary for salvation and holiness. Consequently, sola scriptura demands only those doctrines are to be admitted or confessed that are found directly within or indirectly by using valid logical deduction or valid deductive reasoning from scripture.JETHRO: I CAN SEE WHY the catholic church does not believe this,it dis-allows their traditions....the bible if infallible contains all that is needed for man to follow gods word and find salvation and be beside him in death (heaven). still no one has proven beyond a doubt god exists.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#420179 Feb 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
He's right. I won't be pasting stories of abuse in protestant communities anymore.


http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/thr...
truth

Perth, Australia

#420180 Feb 5, 2013
asked forgiveness
anything
its washing and cleansing trough me
asked
pray love me
i am ok
pray
nivena on Cross

over 45 degree
feet
raspadno stanje
i am good
i fill fine
my heart
my mind is perfect
peace in heart
mind no torment
pure

askedddddddddddddddddddddddddd ddddddddddddddddd
prayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

in wound my hide yourself

under fweet
fireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
burningggggggggggggggggggggggg gggg
when you going in water burning
as real fire
me
my mind
perfect no torment
no pain in heart no in mind

its very nice know
about real Cross

Since: Nov 08

usa

#420181 Feb 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
What does your BREATH-O-METER read when you are done?
don't know, the glass allways cracks, the meter is unreadable.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#420182 Feb 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Regina M. says.....
....Nothing is more unfortunate than the happiness of sinners, which allows them to do wrong with impunity and confirms them in their bad will”
Michael says......Aren't you a sinner? Don't you sometimes express happiness?
BUSTED!
Michael says...."Regina M. says"
ReginaM says.....ReginaM didn't say that. ReginaM copied and pasted a quote from St. Augustine, and the quote is cited as such.
ReginaM says.....Michael should learn to read and stop desperately seeking attention every second of every day.
ReginaM says...Michael is BUSTED....again.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#420183 Feb 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
I am sure you would win hands down over me eating garlic. 5 hours later you would also win the farting contest over me to.
Congratualtions! Garlic man. Something real important to be proud of.
how many garlic cloves do you think you can eat? i peeled and ate 3 garlic bulbs before, but did not think to count the cloves.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#420184 Feb 5, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>YOU didnt understand ONE word that I posted.
first YOU said that she was a sinner, the Bible says that she was a FRIEND.
second, when i said that if you bless God he will bless you. and my son was not ashamed to admit that he was bought up in a religious family, and God Blessed that admitting and he received thousands of dollars with this grant to go to college.and unlike the family of jesus, His family didnt know that He was the Savior and they MOCKED HIM, and that can be laid at the feet of mary who should have known better.
MARY WAS NOT WITHOUT SIN, SHE MADE MISTAKES!!!
MISTAKES THAT MANY WOMEN WOULD NOT DARE TO MAKE TODAY
like I said, you could care less about the TRUTH
ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS ARGUE
preston

You are finally correct. I don't understand, as you write, "YOU didnt understand ONE word that I posted."

As for the mixing up of your opinions, experiences and understanding of the Bible, I just leave that for the Holy Spirit, and I shall pray for you.

About all I ask is that you consider not deriding and denegrating the Blessed Mother of Jesus. It is very hurtful.

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