Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417593 Jan 22, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm fairly certain that you don't decide what is or isn't an infallible (or not infallible) teaching of the Catholic Church.
That is because I don't believe men are infallible, thus the CC is a fraud - in more than just this instance.

BTW - your belief dictates you to believe the "infallible" - Pope and all his "writings".

This is where you err.
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>As you asked me earlier, you CAN make a disticntion between what you believe and what is fact, can you not?
Of course I can.

Belief is something perceived as true, without evidence to support it as fact.

Fact is something that may have started as belief, but as information is found (concerning the belief), belief is no longer extant, and facts take over.
- i.e. It is a fact we have to have water in our body. It is belief that "God" will give us water for our bodies if none is available or present.

Got another "infallible teaching"? Let's put this to bed once and for all.

So far we have discussed one infallible teaching, in which I've shown that it has holes in it's promotion.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417594 Jan 22, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>

I don't know what else to tell you.
Please stop. You are making a fool of yourself.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417595 Jan 22, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
He say's he uses the KJV,as do I.
Your first crucial mistake.

The second one is you don't know the history of the KJV, yet place it above others.

Your third mistake - you don't believe what Jesus taught.

Do I need to go on?
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#417596 Jan 22, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Ox i still believe if Nature teaches us. That when Mary concieved it would have been as a Woman who is carrying an embryo and the egg split and becomes identical twins leaving one God the Father and God the Son who took on the flesh and became sin thoough he never did sin inorder that manking may be saved.
Therefore yes you are correct in that they are Two yet still as one.
In My Opinion that is the only example I can come up with.
They both carry the same SPIRIT of Truth and why Jesus is correct in saying he is the beginning and the end the alpha and omega.
Excuse me !!!!! Now that is new never heard that one before 7th.
preston

Waverly, OH

#417597 Jan 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse me !!!!! Now that is new never heard that one before 7th.
a woman provides an egg in the birth of a child. the Man provides the seed.

since this was a woman who was a virgin, and no man was involved, then it must be inferred that God produced the sperm(seed), and we know this wasnt done.

the ONLY way this could be done was as I have said numerous times was that God placed an embryo in her womb. since the zygote takes on the DNA of both man and woman,but sometimes there are two eggs released and then twins are born.

but in this instance, only one egg would be involved, but in my opinion this never occurred. I believe an embryo was placed in her womb by God and this developed into the Christ Child
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#417598 Jan 22, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>every step you take is a false step.Dan.lol. I was 12 miles from the church when God spoke to me and told me to "come".
it is a shame that all you are doing is mocking the Work of the Holy Spirit.AND YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE IT.
He's not doing that at all. Just because someone had an emotional experience doesn't mean it's the work of the Holy Spirit. There are many folks here who you think are following satanic doctrines and who claim to base their beliefs divine inspiration.
preston

Waverly, OH

#417599 Jan 22, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
He's not doing that at all. Just because someone had an emotional experience doesn't mean it's the work of the Holy Spirit. There are many folks here who you think are following satanic doctrines and who claim to base their beliefs divine inspiration.
then a person needs to discern who is having an "emotional expeirence" and one who is Obeying the voice of God. and until that is settled, then that persons Testimony shouldnt be mocked.
and you are correct, there are several on here that I believe are not Christian, and they follow their own evil devices
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#417600 Jan 22, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>a woman provides an egg in the birth of a child. the Man provides the seed.
since this was a woman who was a virgin, and no man was involved, then it must be inferred that God produced the sperm(seed), and we know this wasnt done.
the ONLY way this could be done was as I have said numerous times was that God placed an embryo in her womb. since the zygote takes on the DNA of both man and woman,but sometimes there are two eggs released and then twins are born.
but in this instance, only one egg would be involved, but in my opinion this never occurred. I believe an embryo was placed in her womb by God and this developed into the Christ Child
Yes I do believe that too. Preston.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417601 Jan 22, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
567
<quoted text>
240 184
Mary had no twins....she had a child...Jesus Christ, whom, as teaches the Catholics, is the incarnate Son of God...not God.
Catholic Encyclopedia: Jesus Christ - The incarnate Son of God and the redeemer of the human race....
Holy Trinity - God Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Show me the Holy Trinity with Christ being God and God being Christ.........
I did not mean to imply Mary had twins. I was referring to God him self spliting as an embroy would and by nature becoming two from one. Both having the same spirit of turth.
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#417602 Jan 22, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>then a person needs to discern who is having an "emotional expeirence" and one who is Obeying the voice of God. and until that is settled, then that persons Testimony shouldnt be mocked.
and you are correct, there are several on here that I believe are not Christian, and they follow their own evil devices
Dan, in this case, may have 'discerned' the person's experience was emotional rather than divine. I know you believe you have a gift in discerning between the two, but that should be left for another discussion.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#417603 Jan 22, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
confrinting
I agree. But there are at least three books in Reve 20 :12 Wouldn't it be sad for you if one of them was the CCC?
I guess you mean the Roman Catholic,s Catechism...

The Bible says In the Old testament...

Amo_3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

There is no prophecy ..or....reference.... to a Roman Catholic Church in the Old Testament...

AND NONE IN THE NEW...So why should any one THAT BELIEVES THE BIBLE,

believe that God would use their books of fables,

ANY MORE THAN HE WOULD USE THE BOOK OF MORMONS.

GOD DEAL IN TRUTH...HE DOES NOT NEED THE FABRICATIONS ASSUMPTIONS AND PRESUMPTUOUSNESS, OF MEN.

WHEN GOD SAYS "LET THERE BE" ...HIS SPOKEN WORD... MAKES IT BECOME.

WHAT HE HAS SPOKEN FORTH .... ARRIVES ...MATERIALIZES AND FROM THAT

POINT ON...IT EXIST.

GOD'S CHURCH IS AS OLD AS HE IS...
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417604 Jan 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse me !!!!! Now that is new never heard that one before 7th.
If we are made in his Image would make sence that God would be able to split as an embreyo would and being concieved by Mary's egg. Or at least a Y chromozone by God himself.
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#417605 Jan 22, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>a woman provides an egg in the birth of a child. the Man provides the seed.
since this was a woman who was a virgin, and no man was involved, then it must be inferred that God produced the sperm(seed), and we know this wasnt done.
the ONLY way this could be done was as I have said numerous times was that God placed an embryo in her womb. since the zygote takes on the DNA of both man and woman,but sometimes there are two eggs released and then twins are born.
but in this instance, only one egg would be involved, but in my opinion this never occurred. I believe an embryo was placed in her womb by God and this developed into the Christ Child
30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for you have found grace with God. 31 Behold you shall conceive in your womb and shall bring forth a son: and you shall call his name Jesus.

Mary could not 'conceive in her womb' if God had placed an embryo her womb. You are sadly mistaken here Preston.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417606 Jan 22, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>a woman provides an egg in the birth of a child. the Man provides the seed.
since this was a woman who was a virgin, and no man was involved, then it must be inferred that God produced the sperm(seed), and we know this wasnt done.
the ONLY way this could be done was as I have said numerous times was that God placed an embryo in her womb. since the zygote takes on the DNA of both man and woman,but sometimes there are two eggs released and then twins are born.
but in this instance, only one egg would be involved, but in my opinion this never occurred. I believe an embryo was placed in her womb by God and this developed into the Christ Child
Strictly a Therory same as my opinion. However it is neither her nor there, The fact remains salvations only comes by Christ.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#417607 Jan 22, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not mean to imply Mary had twins. I was referring to God him self spliting as an embroy would and by nature becoming two from one. Both having the same spirit of turth.
7th, that isn't what the Bible says.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417608 Jan 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes I do believe that too. Preston.
If it was not God split as an embryo would (just an example) then he could not have been the Alpha and Omega ?
Is that true ? Just asking.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417609 Jan 22, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>every step you take is a false step.Dan.lol. I was 12 miles from the church when God spoke to me and told me to "come".
it is a shame that all you are doing is mocking the Work of the Holy Spirit.AND YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE IT.
I'm actually mocking the ever-changing circumstances of your born-again story.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417610 Jan 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
7th, that isn't what the Bible says.
Never said it was LTM. It is a THEORY based on what we know about conception.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417611 Jan 22, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
He say's he uses the KJV,as do I.
Tend to him?
Dear Dan,
that is just what I have been doing.
Well, he's interpeting it differently and is insistent in his conclusion.

He's using the same source and the same method you are.

Who's right?
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#417612 Jan 22, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for you have found grace with God. 31 Behold you shall conceive in your womb and shall bring forth a son: and you shall call his name Jesus.
Mary could not 'conceive in her womb' if God had placed an embryo her womb. You are sadly mistaken here Preston.
What?
Have you heard that humans can do it?
God can not?

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