Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 683876 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

Garden City, MI

#417679 Jan 22, 2013
marge wrote:
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I was Saved in my home 2005, I trust Him alone for All my understanding period.
And my husband first told me I was not right with God, so I thank God for him and many others who edify me.
That's a good thing Marge. Most 'born agains' I've come across come from a rock bottom scenario.

Christ will pick anybody up out of the gutter..that's what He does!
You've experienced partial Catholicism Marge. Once you partake in the Holy Eucharist, you'll have experienced the fullness of His graces bestowed upon us.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#417680 Jan 22, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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So....you cannot show me the Holy Trinity with God being Christ and Christ being God....why is that?????
Why are you not answering my question "why is that"????
Because its not explicitly spelled out in scripture.(thought I made that clear)
marge

Leesburg, GA

#417681 Jan 22, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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As soon as I can figure out what you are trying to say, I will respond...
Everything was made through Jesus, why?
Clay

Garden City, MI

#417682 Jan 22, 2013
Ox, you need to prove Sola Scripture first. If you can prove that, you will have a case.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#417683 Jan 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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That's a good thing Marge. Most 'born agains' I've come across come from a rock bottom scenario.
Christ will pick anybody up out of the gutter..that's what He does!
You've experienced partial Catholicism Marge. Once you partake in the Holy Eucharist, you'll have experienced the fullness of His graces bestowed upon us.
I was about dead and called to God alone and was Saved through Jesus alone, so wrong again I have complete Fulness in Christ Jesus. Blessings Clay
marge

Leesburg, GA

#417684 Jan 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
Ox, you need to prove Sola Scripture first. If you can prove that, you will have a case.
What are we judged by if not the Word of God?

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#417685 Jan 22, 2013
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Clay wrote:
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Because its not explicitly spelled out in scripture.(thought I made that clear)

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You are not making sense....you and others have "quoted" scripture after Scripture that you all say shows that God is Christ...and Christ is God.

Yet you cannot show me that teaching as being correct per the Holy Trinity, not because it is not explicitly spelled out in Scripture, but because that teaching is as wrong as sin and cannot be supported by the Holy Trinity...which includes onlythe Father, Son and Holy Spirit.....

Since: Jun 10

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#417686 Jan 22, 2013
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marge wrote:
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What are we judged by if not the Word of God?
Good question....

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#417687 Jan 22, 2013
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marge wrote:
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Everything was made through Jesus, why?
Where are you reading this teaching??
Clay

Garden City, MI

#417688 Jan 22, 2013
marge wrote:
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I was about dead and called to God alone and was Saved through Jesus alone, so wrong again I have complete Fulness in Christ Jesus. Blessings Clay
I'm not doubting your experience with the Holy Spirit. Your assumption that you were 'saved' as a result is partially true. You were shown the way. Now you need to cooperate with his grace.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#417689 Jan 22, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You are not making sense....you and others have "quoted" scripture after Scripture that you all say shows that God is Christ...and Christ is God.
Yet you cannot show me that teaching as being correct per the Holy Trinity, not because it is not explicitly spelled out in Scripture, but because that teaching is as wrong as sin and cannot be supported by the Holy Trinity...which includes onlythe Father, Son and Holy Spirit.....
I think its been fairly argued and you been shown in error.

In any event, you need to pray to God you're right.
Because if you're wrong and you are teaching against the will of God, you're in deep doo doo

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#417690 Jan 22, 2013
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I think its been fairly argued and you been shown in error.
In any event, you need to pray to God you're right.
Because if you're wrong and you are teaching against the will of God, you're in deep doo doo
It is not spelled out in Scripture, explicitly or otherwise... that is why you cannot support your belief that God is Christ and that Christ is God, by applying that belief to the Holy Trinity.
socci

Willard, MO

#417691 Jan 23, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
It is not spelled out in Scripture, explicitly or otherwise... that is why you cannot support your belief that God is Christ and that Christ is God, by applying that belief to the Holy Trinity.

Christ is the Messiah who we have known as Jesus, Son of the Godhead or 'trinity'.

as we read...

John 1:1-3,10,11 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made...He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came to his own, and his own received him not.

1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Heb 1:1,2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, Has in these last days spoken to us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Rv.22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last...I Jesus have sent my angel to testify to you these things in the churches.
socci

Willard, MO

#417692 Jan 23, 2013
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees him not, neither knows him: but you know him; for he dwells with you, and shall be in you.

14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I have said to you.

15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceeds from the Father, he shall testify of me:

16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send him to you.

16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

17:5 And now, O Father, glorify you me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was.

20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, Receive you the Holy Ghost:
preston

Athens, OH

#417693 Jan 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
I love Protestants and all other non Catholics as well.
But what a horrible doctrinal mess you're all In; completely clueless.
Very notable Evangelical Ministers are crossing over to the Catholic Church. They see the mess they are in.(Google it)
The ones that are refusing to come home to Rome are 'career Ministers'. That is, they can't leave their careers as pastors so they'd rather be ignorant and continue on teaching falsely. Its a damn shame.
sorry, butclay I am not in the least cluelessnor ignorant.

I know more about the embryo that God placed into the womb of Mary, than you cathplics can fathom.

and if you catholics would get off of your high horse by thinking that you got the truth when in reality, you people are the ignorant ones.

36 hours after I was saved, I was thirsty and God gave me to drink, His Spirit and by that Experience, I will never thirst again.

now to you that doesnt mean anything, but to a Born Again Christian, It DOES.

It means that I dont have to go looking for another type of Religion, I dont have to be wanting to know the truth, I already know Him, unlike you.I wouldnt switch to what you got for nothing in the world. when You possses the Real Truth, you will not be "thirsting" for something that would never satisfy a Christian. for you to think that we "ministers"are in this for a career is rediculous. Many of us do this for little or no salary, you cant say that about your catholic clergy whose avg startiong salary is around 20,000 with other perks.(saw that on the net a couple of days ago), such as housing free, auto ins and sopmetimes autos and mileage too.
I doubt if I have been given 200.00 in over 28 years, because I love the Lord and am grateful to Serve Him, and that is Payment enough, but you wouldnt understand that.
preston

Athens, OH

#417694 Jan 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I'm not doubting your experience with the Holy Spirit. Your assumption that you were 'saved' as a result is partially true. You were shown the way. Now you need to cooperate with his grace.
Look, I ahve tried my best to be nice to you and also friendly. but when all is said and done, the Truth must be spoken.

If you are so naive to thing that Serving God is going to a"so called church" and eating some piece of grain and then going home until next week and doing it again, is cooperating with His Grace.

you are going to be very surprised when you shut your eyes in death,and open them in aplace that you in your wildest imagination, could never vision.

and you aint gonna like it.

there is never an "assumption" to the person that gets saved, and that was what chuck was telling Dan all day earlier.when a person gets Saved, they Know it! and it wont take long for other people to "Know" it too. the Newborn Christian cant keep quiet, and it shows all over their countenance. when i first got saved, I walked into teh local VA service offic e and teh clerk look at me and said there was a glow about me. PEOPLE KNOW. a woman that I worked with had started going to church(I didnt know that in fact). and one Monday morning she walked in and I noticed something right off the bat, so i went over to her and she was Bubbling, she told me that she had got Saved and was Baptised Yesterday.

WE KNOW THAT WE ARE SAVED AND WE CAN TELL WHEN OTHERS ARE TOO, IT IS BECAUSE THE SPIRIT BEARS WITNESS AND FLOWS FROM BREAST TO BREAST
preston

Athens, OH

#417695 Jan 23, 2013
The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us.

here John is saying that He has seen the life and testify to it and about it.

and he cant keep quiet about it(being saved). I like that verse so much that I just might Preach on it tomorow night, Lord willing.
truth

Koondoola, Australia

#417696 Jan 23, 2013
Every spirit is not holy..all angels is not bigger then Real God.
You can experience miracle like never before
still is reminder
its not me
many will come in my name its not me..
Jesus Christ words is perfect.

if you save don't say others that you are because we know
all angels and demons will fall..
now
did you save..i don't think so ..
you are not god you are man..
by
preston

Athens, OH

#417697 Jan 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Because you are on the outside of His Church, in the wilderness of Sola Scripture. You are a nomad...trying to navigate Christianity with your own personal take on the Catholic Bible.
I would rather be on the outside looking in than to be on teh inside of this "mess".

for years, your church hid and denied justice for abuse done by your clergy, now the Truth comes out.

LOS ANGELES (AP)— Prosecutors who have been stymied for years in their attempts to build a criminal conspiracy case against retired Los Angeles Archdiocese Cardinal Roger Mahony and other church leaders said Tuesday they will review newly released priest files for additional evidence.

Thousands of pages from the internal disciplinary files of 14 priests made public Monday show Mahony and other top aides maneuvered behind the scenes to shield molester priests and provide damage control for the church.

Some of the documents provide the strongest evidence to date that Mahony and another key official worked to protect a priest who revealed in therapy sessions that he had raped an 11-year-old boy and abused up to 17 boys.

Legal experts, however, said even if the documents contain new evidence, it will be almost impossible to prosecute because of problems with the statute of limitations. It's also unclear whether prosecutors, who received some documents via subpoena years ago, already have seen the files made public Monday.

The time window for prosecuting obstruction of justice is 10 years and for conspiracy, it's three years after the last overt criminal act, said Lawrence Rosenthal, a criminal law professor at Chapman University School of Law.

Yep!! you got the "true church" alright, and am I glad that I dont belong to it.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#417698 Jan 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Really?
Man, we are damned if we do and damned if we don't in the court of Jethro's opinion.
We were successful in stopping Muslim advances at the Crusades....and you trash us for this.
Now, we haven't done anything in response to Muslims blowing up Churches (again), and you trash us...
don't think i responded to this,first,the muslims should not have been attacked in the first place,it was their land and the crusade was about taking their land away and killing the religion out right for superiorty in the religious world,needless sense fighting,like the other crusades.it was all about power and money,the catholic church wanted to dominate the religious world,luckily it did not happen,would be no different than living under nazi or communist rule.they believed in killing and torture to keep people in line,no different than hitler and stalin,who have killed millions,just like the church has.

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