Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417323 Jan 22, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>Lawyers for Pope Benedict XVI have asked US President George W. Bush to declare the pontiff immune from liability in a lawsuit that accuses him of conspiring to cover up the molestation of three boys by a seminarian in Texas, court records show.
The Vatican's embassy in Washington sent a diplomatic memo to the State Department on May 20 requesting the US government grant the pope immunity because he is a head of state, according to a May 26 motion submitted by the pope's lawyers in US District Court for the Southern Division of Texas in Houston.
Joseph Ratzinger is named as a defendant in the civil lawsuit. Now Benedict XVI, he's accused of conspiring with the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston to cover up the abuse during the mid-1990s. The suit is seeking unspecified monetary damages.
In Washington, US State Department spokeswoman Gerry Keener, said today that the pope already is considered a head of state and automatically has diplomatic immunity. Keener said Benedict doesn't have to ask for immunity and Bush doesn't have to grant it.
Pope Gelasius I was the first pope recorded as enjoying diplomatic immunity
Citation, please.

As I said, individuals are granted diplomatic immunity.

BTW, the Pope HAS diplomatic immunity. He's a foreign head of state. Just like the article says.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#417324 Jan 22, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
More Bible truth in SDA than any other church denomination. You could learn a lot from them. Just view White as another bible commenter not a prophet.
lol.....

Oh my....
truth

Australia

#417325 Jan 22, 2013
`Non-belivers don't liked Cross ..they say who is better then us.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#417326 Jan 22, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly what I have been telling them all along.
lol....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#417327 Jan 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Why WOULD Hinn be anything special. He is one in a million self proclaimed ministers who picked up a Bible and declared themselves an authority.
The Pope, on the other hand, is one of 265 who sat in Saint Peters chair as head of the Church Christ started.
~~~

Why would your church be any thing special? It is a self proclaimed religious system.... that with out the Bible... have declared themselves the supreme authority as lil god's upon the earth..

You have no proof whatsoever that God set any one upon a throne in Rome

to attempt to usurp the throne of David, and attempt a physical kingdom

of God upon the earth.
'
Jesus said

Joh_18:36 Jesus answered,

===> My kingdom is not of this world: <===

if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews:--> but now is my kingdom not from hence. <--

JESUS DID NOT LIE...

HIS KINGDOM IS A SPIRITUAL KINGDOM UNTIL HE RETURNS TO SET UP HIS PHYSICAL KINGDOM IN JERUSALEM.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

NOTE

Isa 9:7 --> Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. <--

THE UNGODLY KINGDOM THAT HAS BEEN SET UP IN ROME IS AN A-BOM-I-NATION.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#417328 Jan 22, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>get off of your soap box. ben hen never says anything about people getting Saved and you know it. his shows(which are all they are)are a farce and are contemptible to REAL Christians. he needs those millions to cover his large ego, and it is a shame for someone who claims to be a minister to support this charlatan.
now jump on me all you wish, you gave your biased opinion of him because he speaks with a forked tongue, I give my unbiased opine because of that forked tongue of his.
Benny Hinn: Charging to Hear Him Preach
Posted on July 2, 2009 by Chrystal Whitt Benny Hinn maintains that while people may not like to hear him talk about money, money is necessary to do ďGodís work.Ē
Hinn recently lost $2 million on his crusades to Uganda. In the article you can read by clicking here, Hinn apparently has no qualms about charging an entrance fee to get in, which amounts to fifty American dollars. Does this show that Hinnís passion is Godís Word, or turning a profit?
He laments a loss of revenue, not need of the gospel. When God commissioned the disciples to preach, He didnít ask that they starve. The Apostle Paul even said that if you preach the gospel, you should make your living from the gospel (1 Corinthians 9:14), meaning they were given support by the church. God didnít expect them to go without food or clothing. However, Paul did not always excercise this right for fear of hindering the gospel.
What a far cry is the contrast between Benny Hinn and the Apostle Paul. Benny Hinnís motivation is to make moneyÖthe Apostle Paulís passion was the gospel and edifying the church. Benny Hinn has no problem with taking money from people to turn a profit; the Apostle Paul took nothing for the sake of the gospel. See the contrast?
It is never okay to charge an entrance fee and justify it by saying it takes money to spread the gospel. The face of greed is an ugly sight, isnít it?
http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/200...
~~~

YOU WROTE..

"ben hen never says anything about people getting Saved and you know it."

NEITHER DOES THE POPE SAY ANY THING ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING SAVED...
truth

Australia

#417329 Jan 22, 2013
why they talking about righteousness people when they judging them..justice not exist who told you it is..no no never exist that for good people they know how they set up..
justice died on Cross..
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#417330 Jan 22, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
"Prove my outlandish statement false", right?
Here.
The Catechism.
Any more questions?
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX....
Thank you Dan.

What are the RCC's "infallible teachings on faith and morals."

Dan writes -- "Prove my outlandish statement false.. "

Dan, THAT is exactly my point, glad you finally picked it up.

When you make these absurd claims about "perfect" and "infallible" teachings -- why are you so surprised that someone would ask for a list so that the absurd claim can be addressed ... directly and specifically.

If anyone else claimed to possess "infallible teachings" from God, wouldn't YOU ASK THE SAME QUESTION?

When unchangeable "infallible teachings" change over the centuries, that's not good for the claim. So the solution is to say those teachings were never "infallible" in the first place.

Get the absurdity yet?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417331 Jan 22, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you Dan.
What are the RCC's "infallible teachings on faith and morals."
Dan writes -- "Prove my outlandish statement false.. "
Dan, THAT is exactly my point, glad you finally picked it up.
When you make these absurd claims about "perfect" and "infallible" teachings -- why are you so surprised that someone would ask for a list so that the absurd claim can be addressed ... directly and specifically.
If anyone else claimed to possess "infallible teachings" from God, wouldn't YOU ASK THE SAME QUESTION?
When unchangeable "infallible teachings" change over the centuries, that's not good for the claim. So the solution is to say those teachings were never "infallible" in the first place.
Get the absurdity yet?
Everything they teach doesn't get promulgated under the doctrine of papal infallilibity.

Papal infallilibity has been invoked rarely.

Do you know what infallibility means in case of "papal infallibility"?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417332 Jan 22, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you Dan.
What are the RCC's "infallible teachings on faith and morals."
Dan writes -- "Prove my outlandish statement false.. "
Dan, THAT is exactly my point, glad you finally picked it up.
When you make these absurd claims about "perfect" and "infallible" teachings -- why are you so surprised that someone would ask for a list so that the absurd claim can be addressed ... directly and specifically.
If anyone else claimed to possess "infallible teachings" from God, wouldn't YOU ASK THE SAME QUESTION?
When unchangeable "infallible teachings" change over the centuries, that's not good for the claim. So the solution is to say those teachings were never "infallible" in the first place.
Get the absurdity yet?
What teaching has "changed" that has you mentioning this? One example si fine, more than one is fine-just let me know.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#417333 Jan 22, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you Dan.
What are the RCC's "infallible teachings on faith and morals."
Dan writes -- "Prove my outlandish statement false.. "
Dan, THAT is exactly my point, glad you finally picked it up.
When you make these absurd claims about "perfect" and "infallible" teachings -- why are you so surprised that someone would ask for a list so that the absurd claim can be addressed ... directly and specifically.
If anyone else claimed to possess "infallible teachings" from God, wouldn't YOU ASK THE SAME QUESTION?
When unchangeable "infallible teachings" change over the centuries, that's not good for the claim. So the solution is to say those teachings were never "infallible" in the first place.
Get the absurdity yet?
You sure do sound like Free Mind....another poster on here....
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#417334 Jan 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have to be Catholic to be a Saint. You just have to be in Heaven. There are plenty of non Catholics up there.
So normal folks like you and I like these:

The Christian Post:
Two North Korean Christians have died because of their faith, a global persecution watchdog group revealed today. Opens Doors USA confirmed the deaths of the two Christians, revealing that one was shot while he was leaving for Bible training in China, and that another one died in a labor camp in North Korea.

**Now that I have told you about them, will you pray to them? Are they not the same as Peter?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417335 Jan 22, 2013
preston wrote:
I think that I would start on cleaning my own house(doctrine and beliefs) before I started on another group of people.
If I were some people.hint, hint
"I think that I would start on cleaning my own house (doctrine and beliefs)"

- it's not what Jesus wanted, but okay.

Maybe you should begin with your own being ('house') and address your TRUE honesty ('doctrine').

This is where it begins.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417336 Jan 22, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you Dan.
What are the RCC's "infallible teachings on faith and morals."
Dan writes -- "Prove my outlandish statement false.. "
Dan, THAT is exactly my point, glad you finally picked it up.
When you make these absurd claims about "perfect" and "infallible" teachings -- why are you so surprised that someone would ask for a list so that the absurd claim can be addressed ... directly and specifically.
If anyone else claimed to possess "infallible teachings" from God, wouldn't YOU ASK THE SAME QUESTION?
When unchangeable "infallible teachings" change over the centuries, that's not good for the claim. So the solution is to say those teachings were never "infallible" in the first place.
Get the absurdity yet?
RE: faith, the Nicene Creed sums it up.

RE: morals, it's in the Catechism.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417337 Jan 22, 2013
Robert F wrote:
Oxbow
The Bible is not a book on logic, based on logic. And to jump from one scripture and then to another and presume you can do so, applying logic, is an intellectual pride.
The Bible has literal, figurative, and spiritual in natures with some overlapping....
No one can define God.
It is not a sin to try and understand God, rather to presume you can by logic.
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said the Bible is a book on logic...nor that it is based on logic.
I never said anything about defining God..I never said one word about trying to understand God..nor did I say you could by using logic.
You are grasping at straws.
Both sides of this issues have made posts "defining God".

Now you guys deny it.

Yeah - honesty is strong with you guys. Uh-huh....sure......
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417338 Jan 22, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
So normal folks like you and I like these:
The Christian Post:
Two North Korean Christians have died because of their faith, a global persecution watchdog group revealed today. Opens Doors USA confirmed the deaths of the two Christians, revealing that one was shot while he was leaving for Bible training in China, and that another one died in a labor camp in North Korea.
**Now that I have told you about them, will you pray to them? Are they not the same as Peter?
All the faithful in Heaven can intercede for us.

What about Peter here?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417339 Jan 22, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
227187
<quoted text>
Not worthy of a response..
Runaway liitle one. Runaway!

Typical.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417340 Jan 22, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Horse apples....you are crawfishing...
Diversion.

No need to fret Rabbi - the astonishment will come if you let it.

Why don't you beleive Jesus?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417341 Jan 22, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
would make the Bible fallible...which it is not...
yes it is.

I've shown you many instances that prove that is the case.

Why don't you believe Jesus?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417342 Jan 22, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
Prove that Fatima is not an RCC "infallible" (not "official") teaching.
Please provide a list of the RCC's amazing "unchangeable infallible teachings" to show us that Fatima is not on there.
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
"Prove my outlandish statement false", right?
Here.
The Catechism.
Any more questions?
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX....
Diversion.

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