Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

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#417309 Jan 21, 2013
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Clay wrote:
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Its tough Marge. You protestants opened up the door to sola scripture. Now its an abyss that never ends because there is no one to determine what's valid and what's not. He's privately interpreting how he sees it and you can't say Jack squat about it cuz you're doing the same thing!
You see Why Christ established a Magistrium with a head leader .. a Pope?
Popes come up through the ranks of pedophiles...which makes them suspects of the crime. And Catholics follow their teachings like blind mice. Way to go!!!!

Since: Jun 10

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#417310 Jan 21, 2013
308
marge wrote:
All People Are Sinners
Well then, should we conclude that we Jews are better than others?
No, not at all, for we have already shown that all people, whether Jews or Gentiles, are under the power of sin.
As the Scriptures say,
“No one is righteous—
not even one.
No one is truly wise;
no one is seeking God.
All have turned away;
all have become useless.
No one does good,
not a single one.”
“They have no fear of God at all.”
Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

If none are righteous, why does the Bible teach the fervent prayers of a righteous man availeth much??????

For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil

If none are righteous, how can the eyes of the Lord be over the righteous???!!!! How can He open His ears unto their prayers???!!!!
marge

Ames, IA

#417311 Jan 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
289 240 184
<quoted text>
Because, as I have shown, Scripture, as in my last post, that clearly teaches, God and Christ are not one and the same...
For Scripture to teach the opposite, as you are inferring, would make the Bible fallible...which it is not...
yes it is. Blessings
30There is only one God, and he makes people right with himself only by faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles.
marge

Ames, IA

#417312 Jan 21, 2013
yes it is from no discernment from above

Since: Jun 10

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#417313 Jan 21, 2013
311
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
yes it is. Blessings
30There is only one God, and he makes people right with himself only by faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles.
And that one God is not Christ the Son of God.. He, God, is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit....Christ is the second person in the Holy Trinity....He was incarnated...not God...
truth

Australia

#417314 Jan 22, 2013
They say no God. psalm 14 N
colossians 2;14-15
But he look them in procession holy one as his people
ps 68;24


then
they see no friends no good for them anyone
where is that God for them..
yes where is that good leaders over my people

manipulators evil who try ruin them for 1260 years of killing and exzodus of my people..

3x heaven
nobody been for them even today

manypulators as well very bad wishers in nice suits as well deadly corupt evil law..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

they will pray

but will be late
did they good toward my people
noooo
not even today
they are some liars upon liars
deadly evil corupt law
truth

Australia

#417315 Jan 22, 2013
but i say to you
not be will be spear nobody
ones implemented finish
then
you will know how many rich god exist
is they god or corupt possessors..
no they are not god not at all
possessors is not god
truth

Australia

#417317 Jan 22, 2013
did Jesus been on Cross..for nonbelievers never they will say as they act as always been evil in mind..

they never liked God
they liked be bigger then God
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417320 Jan 22, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
Prove that Fatima is not an RCC "infallible" (not "official") teaching.
Please provide a list of the RCC's amazing "unchangeable infallible teachings" to show us that Fatima is not on there.
"Prove my outlandish statement false", right?

Here.

The Catechism.

Any more questions?

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX....
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#417321 Jan 22, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>It has always been 24/7 when it comes to God however if you are keeping the Sabbath 24/7 YOU are LAZY !!!
Rest in Christ...

"My soul finds rest in God alone; my salvation comes from Him. He alone is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress, I shall never be shaken."

Not in the day of the week....
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417322 Jan 22, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>I understand your point,but the truth is,whole populations that are Roman Catholic in this world venerate openly the blessed Mother,having a statue of her in front of them,kneeling before it,singing litanies and canticles of praise to her near divine office,glorifying her. Statues of Mary are often placed on pedestals and carried around,many faithful trying to touch the pedestal to gain some virtue if possible.
Catholics here in the US especially try to claim that their prayers and devotion to Mary is within that safe realm of non[-Divine worship,and I understand many American and propbably Canadian Catholics do not actually worship Mary.But I watch EWTN often and really Dan,much of what is said about Mary,and the practices of devotion to her are exactly the very reason why Prots and evangelicals reject Catholicism.The reasoning given by Catholic teachers on the devotion to Mary often exceeds the boundaries of what some Catholics try to say do not exist in the whole of Catholicism.
Mary is not in any way the Spouse of the Holy Spirit,for instance.Even trying to reason such a thought is preposterous.
Catholics cannot separate in their mindset the Man Christ Jesus,from the Eternal God He was and is and IS to come. Jesus was the Son of Man,and technically still is due to His resurrected Body.But it is in that realm of His being the Son of Man that He also is the Son of Mary.YET,Catholics and Orthodox insist that Mary is the Mother of God,and that if we do not call her such,than we do not believe in the Incarnation.Mary was the Mother of Jesus the Son of Man,Mother of the Man Jesus,giving Him flesh and blood from her mortal body.
To say that Mary is the Mother of God is to separate Jesus from the Father and the Holy Spirit,that He is a separate or a God alone from the Father and the Holy Spirit.JESUS is with the Father and the Holy Spirit G O D.The Three are not separate Gods.GOD is ONE,indivisible.The Godhead is the OFFICE of Their being,the Administration of the Father,Son and Holy Spirit=ONE GOD forever and ever.
So if you say that Mary is the Mother of God,you are saying technically that she is the Mother of the Father-Son,and the Holy Spirit.Which of course for a mortal human being that is impossible,and should not be even mentioned.
She bore the Man Christ Jesus who WAS from the beginning G o d.She did not bear God,because He was God before she even existed.But she bore the total humanity of the Person Jesus,anointed to be the Messiah,and who IS God from the Father and the Holy Spirit of Promise to all humanity.
But as Son of Man Jesus lived in the realm of being lesser than the Angels for 30+ years,He died in human agony,but was RAISED by the Father from the dead.His separate role of being the Son of Man changed to the Eternal Son from what was His roots to begin with,He sits at the right hand of His Father in GLORY!
You still persist in furthering a false claim. You sisn't understand my point at all. Too busy "critically interpreting" EWTN, I guess.
Amazing. Simply amazing.
No Catholic denies that the Virgin Mary is venerated.
Please prove that the RCC teaches that Mary is to be accorded divine worship.
We'll wait.
Here's the source information-
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX....
Find and cite where it is taught that she is to be accorded divine worship.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417323 Jan 22, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>Lawyers for Pope Benedict XVI have asked US President George W. Bush to declare the pontiff immune from liability in a lawsuit that accuses him of conspiring to cover up the molestation of three boys by a seminarian in Texas, court records show.
The Vatican's embassy in Washington sent a diplomatic memo to the State Department on May 20 requesting the US government grant the pope immunity because he is a head of state, according to a May 26 motion submitted by the pope's lawyers in US District Court for the Southern Division of Texas in Houston.
Joseph Ratzinger is named as a defendant in the civil lawsuit. Now Benedict XVI, he's accused of conspiring with the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston to cover up the abuse during the mid-1990s. The suit is seeking unspecified monetary damages.
In Washington, US State Department spokeswoman Gerry Keener, said today that the pope already is considered a head of state and automatically has diplomatic immunity. Keener said Benedict doesn't have to ask for immunity and Bush doesn't have to grant it.
Pope Gelasius I was the first pope recorded as enjoying diplomatic immunity
Citation, please.

As I said, individuals are granted diplomatic immunity.

BTW, the Pope HAS diplomatic immunity. He's a foreign head of state. Just like the article says.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#417324 Jan 22, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
More Bible truth in SDA than any other church denomination. You could learn a lot from them. Just view White as another bible commenter not a prophet.
lol.....

Oh my....
truth

Australia

#417325 Jan 22, 2013
`Non-belivers don't liked Cross ..they say who is better then us.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#417326 Jan 22, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly what I have been telling them all along.
lol....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#417327 Jan 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Why WOULD Hinn be anything special. He is one in a million self proclaimed ministers who picked up a Bible and declared themselves an authority.
The Pope, on the other hand, is one of 265 who sat in Saint Peters chair as head of the Church Christ started.
~~~

Why would your church be any thing special? It is a self proclaimed religious system.... that with out the Bible... have declared themselves the supreme authority as lil god's upon the earth..

You have no proof whatsoever that God set any one upon a throne in Rome

to attempt to usurp the throne of David, and attempt a physical kingdom

of God upon the earth.
'
Jesus said

Joh_18:36 Jesus answered,

===> My kingdom is not of this world: <===

if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews:--> but now is my kingdom not from hence. <--

JESUS DID NOT LIE...

HIS KINGDOM IS A SPIRITUAL KINGDOM UNTIL HE RETURNS TO SET UP HIS PHYSICAL KINGDOM IN JERUSALEM.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

NOTE

Isa 9:7 --> Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. <--

THE UNGODLY KINGDOM THAT HAS BEEN SET UP IN ROME IS AN A-BOM-I-NATION.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#417328 Jan 22, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>get off of your soap box. ben hen never says anything about people getting Saved and you know it. his shows(which are all they are)are a farce and are contemptible to REAL Christians. he needs those millions to cover his large ego, and it is a shame for someone who claims to be a minister to support this charlatan.
now jump on me all you wish, you gave your biased opinion of him because he speaks with a forked tongue, I give my unbiased opine because of that forked tongue of his.
Benny Hinn: Charging to Hear Him Preach
Posted on July 2, 2009 by Chrystal Whitt Benny Hinn maintains that while people may not like to hear him talk about money, money is necessary to do “God’s work.”
Hinn recently lost $2 million on his crusades to Uganda. In the article you can read by clicking here, Hinn apparently has no qualms about charging an entrance fee to get in, which amounts to fifty American dollars. Does this show that Hinn’s passion is God’s Word, or turning a profit?
He laments a loss of revenue, not need of the gospel. When God commissioned the disciples to preach, He didn’t ask that they starve. The Apostle Paul even said that if you preach the gospel, you should make your living from the gospel (1 Corinthians 9:14), meaning they were given support by the church. God didn’t expect them to go without food or clothing. However, Paul did not always excercise this right for fear of hindering the gospel.
What a far cry is the contrast between Benny Hinn and the Apostle Paul. Benny Hinn’s motivation is to make money…the Apostle Paul’s passion was the gospel and edifying the church. Benny Hinn has no problem with taking money from people to turn a profit; the Apostle Paul took nothing for the sake of the gospel. See the contrast?
It is never okay to charge an entrance fee and justify it by saying it takes money to spread the gospel. The face of greed is an ugly sight, isn’t it?
http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/200...
~~~

YOU WROTE..

"ben hen never says anything about people getting Saved and you know it."

NEITHER DOES THE POPE SAY ANY THING ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING SAVED...
truth

Australia

#417329 Jan 22, 2013
why they talking about righteousness people when they judging them..justice not exist who told you it is..no no never exist that for good people they know how they set up..
justice died on Cross..
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#417330 Jan 22, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
"Prove my outlandish statement false", right?
Here.
The Catechism.
Any more questions?
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX....
Thank you Dan.

What are the RCC's "infallible teachings on faith and morals."

Dan writes -- "Prove my outlandish statement false.. "

Dan, THAT is exactly my point, glad you finally picked it up.

When you make these absurd claims about "perfect" and "infallible" teachings -- why are you so surprised that someone would ask for a list so that the absurd claim can be addressed ... directly and specifically.

If anyone else claimed to possess "infallible teachings" from God, wouldn't YOU ASK THE SAME QUESTION?

When unchangeable "infallible teachings" change over the centuries, that's not good for the claim. So the solution is to say those teachings were never "infallible" in the first place.

Get the absurdity yet?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417331 Jan 22, 2013
RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you Dan.
What are the RCC's "infallible teachings on faith and morals."
Dan writes -- "Prove my outlandish statement false.. "
Dan, THAT is exactly my point, glad you finally picked it up.
When you make these absurd claims about "perfect" and "infallible" teachings -- why are you so surprised that someone would ask for a list so that the absurd claim can be addressed ... directly and specifically.
If anyone else claimed to possess "infallible teachings" from God, wouldn't YOU ASK THE SAME QUESTION?
When unchangeable "infallible teachings" change over the centuries, that's not good for the claim. So the solution is to say those teachings were never "infallible" in the first place.
Get the absurdity yet?
Everything they teach doesn't get promulgated under the doctrine of papal infallilibity.

Papal infallilibity has been invoked rarely.

Do you know what infallibility means in case of "papal infallibility"?

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