Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[MICHAEL]

Anthony MN wrote:

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Get over it. Your opinion doesn't matter. You're not Catholic anymore.

(LOL) My opinion is to the topic. "Is the roman catholic church the only true church says the vatican?"

I say no! So do many others. Why have childish fits of anger Anthony everytime someone disagrees with you?

Do I call you names? No.

[MICHAEL]

hojo wrote:

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This is just more of your hostile "anti-catholic" (trash) articles, that we as Catholics can expect from you "every time you desperately "dig up" more of your "vengeful dirt" that you, Michael, enjoy playing in. You are like an immature 3 year old with your shovel and bucket, playing in the "mud"!...... Protestants, atheists and agnostics like you will "say or do ANYTHING to keep your exaggerated "junk news statistics" thrown around this forum in order that (someone--anyone) will believe the "distortions,deceit and bombastic BS that keeps your daily life in confusion, chaos and hate, against Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church. The fact is Michael, you are about as "desperately ignorant" as is gets, to think that, we as Catholics, are going to believe ANY of the "sewage" that comes out of your anti-catholic BS.

This is what the 39th time the exact same post to me.

I am not going anywhere HOJO. Sorry!

Thanks for reading my posts!

[Robert F]

MICHAEL wrote:

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..You don't have to read my posts Robert. Almost 6 Billion others on this planet don't agree with your INDOCTRINATED catholicism either. You don't accept the beliefs of others outside of your belief? How can you judge them without facts?
I have stated on here, I do not believe in the trinity, and I was raised a roman catholic. Does that make me ANTI CHRIST in a negative sense? No it makes me a non believer. Are you ANTI- everyone but catholic? I hope not!
As you know there are probably just as many former or ex catholics on this forum as there are catholics. Much like the general baptized catholic population. If this forum was all conservative catholics this thread would have died a long long time ago.
We keep it going!

Michael

You ask, "I have stated on here, I do not believe in the trinity, and I was raised a roman catholic. Does that make me ANTI CHRIST in a negative sense?"

Its not a negative comment that I make.(Some people use it in a derogatory way. I am merely stating the obvious.) It is a positive statement. You are an anti-Christ, not believing in the trinity. You stated it. And because you are anti-Christ, you are anti-God....It is the same thing, because you know the doctrine and reject it.

All you need to do is realize it. Then you can move on.

Actually, I don't read your comments very much. I once thought conversing with you I might understand, and you as well. I only responded as you first made a comment to me, and I feel obligated to respond. I skip them as they merely tend to condemn others and God.

[New Age Spiritual Leader]

Anthony MN wrote:

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Lol. I know full well the problems in the Church. I also see full well the frustration in people like you being unable to convince us to lose faith and hope. Keep trying Mike, giving you fits is one of life's little pleasures...

I don't think Michael (or others) have ever expressed an interest in trying to convince anyone "to lose faith and hope".

IMO - he (like those others) posts facts that many Catholics refuse to acknowledge as truths, especially when they relate to those known problems and issues which ARE present in the RCC today.

He also agrees that with these problems and issues in the RCC, there are very few followers who have stood up and organized against those involved in those situations.

You and the other so-called "Catholics" as far as I can say (based upon your posts) you don't get involved.

In other words, you support and help pay for the abuse - through your donations and so-called 'service'. Which leads to a point that you have never answered through honesty - that you don't. Those are the semantics that you and many of those followers refuse to admit.

You aren't honest with yourself or with others in these regards.

"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God." - Jesus

[Anthony MN]

MICHAEL wrote:

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Anthony says......I wonder if Jeff Anderson is representing his clients pro bono?
Michael says......we should be lucky there is a Jeff Anderson. You don't give a damn about victims Anthony you only look for loop-holes and excuses to cover the backside of your church leaders, who have failed the followers in so many ways.
Where is your anger towards the leaders of your church who countless times, recycled predators from parish to parish, only again to victimize another 13 year old innocent altar boy, who with all his heart believed and trusted in the men of his church. They NEVER called the police when a crime was suspected. They called the church physchiatrist. Who the hell does that?
......and Attorney Jeff Anderson is your greatest concern??
Get your priorities straight!
...direct your anger where it belongs. To the men who you trusted, the ones who failed you.

Would you prefer the US constitution and state laws be temporarily suspended and statutes of limitations be lifted retroactively in order to prosecute the perps?

It's none of your business where my 'anger' is. I'm still a faithful Catholic, in spite of your best efforts, and that pisses you off. Get over it. Go have a daiquiri.

[MICHAEL]

Anthony MN wrote:

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Lol. I know full well the problems in the Church. I also see full well the frustration in people like you being unable to convince us to lose faith and hope. Keep trying Mike, giving you fits is one of life's little pleasures...

READ SLOWLY.

.....Remember Anthony, its your own church leaders that caused, and created these scandals, not anyone else.

If the church leaders had been doing what they are suppose to be doing, I would be reporting only good news.

Another day, another scandal...

[Anthony MN]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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WOW Anthony....you have some anger issues.
Laughing them off is not going to help.
Trust me, a priest cannot help you.

As an ex-Catholic, you need to get over it too. Don't they have some good shrooms in your neck if the woods? Maybe that would help.

[Anthony MN]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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No double standard there - only in your eyes, because you refuse to accept the semantics of what he posts on.

Yeah right, non Catholics are never guilty of using a double standard. Your poor parents....

[Robert F]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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Citation please - of your comparative atatement. One that includes this comparison.
"The Sea of Galilee was known as the Abyss."
Citation please of this "truth" you supply.
"The swine did not decide to run into the Abyss. This was the only place reserved for demons to exist....(Not some invention of mine.)"
- After all,you have stated that it is '(Not some invention of mine.)'
Thanks!

NASL

Fight or flight(citation enough)....The demon infested pigs could not prevail/fight against the Truth, and the demons fled/returned from where they came from, the Sea of Galilee, the Abyss.

Note also while in a storm, the disciples thought they saw a "ghost" walking on the water, when it was Jesus. Beneath the troubled surface was where the demons "lived".

I gave two sites to read concerning Galilee as being the Abyss.

Maybe now you see the analogy of the Titanic going down to the deep cold Atlantic?

[MICHAEL]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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I don't think Michael (or others) have ever expressed an interest in trying to convince anyone "to lose faith and hope".
IMO - he (like those others) posts facts that many Catholics refuse to acknowledge as truths, especially when they relate to those known problems and issues which ARE present in the RCC today.
He also agrees that with these problems and issues in the RCC, there are very few followers who have stood up and organized against those involved in those situations.
You and the other so-called "Catholics" as far as I can say (based upon your posts) you don't get involved.
In other words, you support and help pay for the abuse - through your donations and so-called 'service'. Which leads to a point that you have never answered through honesty - that you don't. Those are the semantics that you and many of those followers refuse to admit.
You aren't honest with yourself or with others in these regards.
"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God." - Jesus

Thankyou.... NASL!

All catholics should read your post, and ask themselves why they too have been so SILENT! when the victims needed them most.

[MICHAEL]

Anthony MN wrote:

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Would you prefer the US constitution and state laws be temporarily suspended and statutes of limitations be lifted retroactively in order to prosecute the perps?
It's none of your business where my 'anger' is. I'm still a faithful Catholic, in spite of your best efforts, and that pisses you off. Get over it. Go have a daiquiri.

I have never instructed you or informed you to leave your faith. What nonsense.

I just posted information to make you clearly aware that all is not well, yet it should be, for an organization that boasts being the advocates of morality and justice and the only set of keys to the kingdom of heaven, yet we know the church leaders do not often practice what they preach.

[ReginaM]

LTM wrote:

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You never left this thread Regina, what do mean you cam back to defend it.

Now how would you know that unless *you* were always over here? Hmmm?

A friend emailed me during that time and said that I was missed because I hadn't been on this thread for quite awhile. You're a liar, pure and simple. Now leave me alone, take your bile elsewhere.

[Anthony MN]

MICHAEL wrote:

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(LOL) My opinion is to the topic. "Is the roman catholic church the only true church says the vatican?"
I say no! So do many others. Why have childish fits of anger Anthony everytime someone disagrees with you?
Do I call you names? No.

I know you say 'no'.

I say 'I don't care what you say, as an ex-Catholic your opinions and suggestions for the Church are meaningless, you should find a more relaxing past time, like paying attention to your wife.'

[Robert F]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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Maybe you are a "spinning robot"?
You do 'spin' a good tale, all the while, to be seemingly 'programmed' like a robot, with the continuous wrong message you post.
Cool!! My favorite numbers just popped up (7263)! This must be another great day!
Cheers to all!

NASL

Well, coming from someone that is programmed to think absolutely everything is relative, and relatively everything is absolute, I can see your point. But you certainly have a hard time proving anything....

[Free MInd]

Anthony MN wrote:

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Don't worry about it. You're pro abortion, abortion is legal. You're anti Catholic, the majority of the media, the president and all of academia is too.
When everyone is on your side, why do you feel the need to spend so much time on this board whining about the Catholic Church?

Staying on-topic is not whining.

Posting relevant facts is not whining.

Complaining about anti-Catholics like "the media, the president and all of academia" is a great example of whining.

95% of the world sees the Vatican's absurd lies and immoral acts.

Me too. I stand with abused orphans against a corrupt Goliath.

TRUTH, JUSTICE, REFORMATION AMERICA

[Disciple]

ReginaM wrote:

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Now how would you know that unless *you* were always over here? Hmmm?
A friend emailed me during that time and said that I was missed because I hadn't been on this thread for quite awhile. You're a liar, pure and simple. Now leave me alone, take your bile elsewhere.

"Take your Bible elsewhere"
What's wrong with it?

[MICHAEL]

Robert F wrote:

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Michael
You ask, "I have stated on here, I do not believe in the trinity, and I was raised a roman catholic. Does that make me ANTI CHRIST in a negative sense?"
Its not a negative comment that I make.(Some people use it in a derogatory way. I am merely stating the obvious.) It is a positive statement. You are an anti-Christ, not believing in the trinity. You stated it. And because you are anti-Christ, you are anti-God....It is the same thing, because you know the doctrine and reject it.
All you need to do is realize it. Then you can move on.
Actually, I don't read your comments very much. I once thought conversing with you I might understand, and you as well. I only responded as you first made a comment to me, and I feel obligated to respond. I skip them as they merely tend to condemn others and God.

Robert.

We all have opinions on EVERYTHING.

Look what is going on right now in your country? Its divided on gun control. Half the country believes you should be able to have any kind of gun you want, the other half want semi-automatic guns removed.

Heated discussions on both sides of the issue. No clear winner will ever be found. Religion is much the same. Every religious belief claims they are the righteous and only way. Not one has the SMOKING GUN OF TRUTH.

No point in getting all upset if for my reasons and my research that I decide to disagree with you. I do not get upset because you have a different belief.

Remember MOST people of faith, were born into it. Not many Muslims have two Islamic sons and two christian sons, as not many catholics have a catholic son and a Muslim daughter. Indoctrination is more about appeasing family-hand-me-down tradition than the actual belief itself.

No point in getting upset. There is no religious belief that will ever convince the other side to come over to their side.

[Robert F]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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Back-peddling won't help resolve the previous statements, but admitting you misspoke will.
You again avoided your first post and the prophetic statements it made.
Try a little honesty and own what you write.
Wanna try again?

NASL

You called my post prophetic....That it may be. Only time will reveal it.

All I can add is that things will deteriorate more in the U.S., until/unless there is a return to faith in God.

[preston]

LTM wrote:

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I remembered the name Sarah that was her name.
That's not to say you are not suppose to be friends with her Preston, personally I don't like her.

I can tell.lol

most of the time, she is very friendly with me, and a few times, it has been on the unfriendly side.

[Free MInd]

MICHAEL wrote:

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(LOL) My opinion is to the topic. "Is the roman catholic church the only true church says the vatican?"
I say no! So do many others. Why have childish fits of anger Anthony everytime someone disagrees with you?
Do I call you names? No.

Why his fits?

Because deep inside, he hates defending the immoral and the absurd.

So he attacks the messenger.