Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[Free MInd]

MICHAEL wrote:

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Catholics don't even follow the good ways of Jesus. Did Jesus ask the blind man if he was gay or a pimp? Of course not, he fixed him right up. But what about all the other blind men/women in jerusulem that didn't meet Jesus? Oh well too bad for them.
When Jesus fed exactly 5,000 hungry people loaves and fishes, did he sort out the gays, lesbians, crooks, and limbless people and put them in a seperate group? Of course not, he fed them all, and sent them on their way.
Catholics have gotten right off track of what their mankind obligations are. Helping everyone in need, not making fun or discrediting marginal people.
If the roman catholic church didn't fall into the scandal pit every few months I would only be recording good news about the church. Nobody is interested in good news stories.
How many newspapers, and news agencies would still be in business if they weren't cranking out daily scandals, murders, rapes, plane crashes, and earthquakes. BAD NEWS SELLS!
It won't work, as long as the church keeps cranking out scandals I will report them.

We know that most Catholics aren't into this superior morality thing.

Most don't attend Mass regularly and could care less about the absurd "ONLY TRUE PERFECT" claim.

Then there are the RCC fundies here, who ask no questions and stand with Goliath against justice for orphans and deaf children.

These are known as "creeps."

Ireland had to break diplomatic relations before the creep leadership saw the light and shed a little creepiness. But here, the creeps are still in denial.

[LTM]

ReginaM wrote:

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Why are you having such a difficult time answering the question?
The atheist person, Black Swan or whomever, saw fit to counter Robert's post about the Church's pro-life position with something about prayers for abuse victims. He is unaware that the Church does pray for them, so his response didn't have the dramatic effect he was hoping for. He also fails to see the connection, as do you and Little Miss Mikey-Poo. There's also a connection between contraception and abortion, which of course connects to euthanasia, making a stop-over at such places as abuse in all its forms.
There's a bigger picture here and it appears the Catholic Church is the only one to see it, and has seen it for many, many years.
See Pope Paul VI's Encyclical Letter "Humanae Vitae".
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/enc...

I would rather see what God says on this matter Regina, as I find catholic's do not have a clear view on what is or isn't scriptual.
I don't believe in abortion it is the murder of the innocent.
I just feel a church that preaches against it as murder and its views on homosexuality, should check out their own back yard first.
The abuse against children, for ions by the cathoic , who have murdered and destroyed the souls of these children have no right to judge others.
They employ pedophiles as well as homosexuals.
They have also killed and raped innocent children.

[LTM]

LTM wrote:

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Preston, I use to think like that towards Regina also.
She befriend me, I thought we were close.
When I went to another thread I really wasn't going to come back on here.
When I did Regina was over here shooting me in the back, and poking fun at me with Anthony.
I lost respect for her for that pretending to be one thing and turned out to be another.
I believe she is some one else who was on here too, but I can't remember the name, its not StarC.

I remembered the name Sarah that was her name.
That's not to say you are not suppose to be friends with her Preston, personally I don't like her.

[Robert F]

MICHAEL wrote:

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If abortions are on the front burner of the church, why not start addressing the issue where they are most prevalent? Catholic women.
Yes I have posted this before, not sure who I posted it to.
I am sure the over 400,000 posts on this forum have covered every facet of the catholic church hundreds of times over.
Why is my topic any different? You started the thread about abortion and I am sure this is not your first time posting about it.

Michael

Your fallacy is an argument of repetition. I have seen you post this at least a dozen times....You have exhausted all logic in the situation.

You think you are a herald as some sort of righteous person, when in fact you are anti-Christ and anti-God. That is, you think your conscience guides(should/must guide) the world.

You don't enlighten. You condemn. And in doing so, you condemn yourself. Its just that simple.

[Clay]

LTM wrote:

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I remembered the name Sarah that was her name.
That's not to say you are not suppose to be friends with her Preston, personally I don't like her.

May I chime in?

I think the big problem is you guys are friendly when its a one on one thing. But then your true colors come out when you trash the Church and preach that Catholics are not 'born again' and are going to Hell.
If you considered Regina a friend, you wouldn't bear false witness against her, by claiming she worships Mary (among other accusations)

Same with me LTM. How can I be respectful when its one lie after another thrown at me and what I believe.

[ReginaM]

LTM wrote:

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I remembered the name Sarah that was her name.
That's not to say you are not suppose to be friends with her Preston, personally I don't like her.

Sarah??!! You really are delusional. Do you have any proof of these accusations? If not, I'd suggest you stop defaming me. Calumny is a sin (you'll find these words in the dictionary).

I'm not going to argue with you over this other than to say that the situation was the direct opposite of what you've been stating. This is no different than what you do to Christ and His church on a daily basis. I came back to this thread to defend both of them from *your* attacks, not the other way around.

God have mercy on your soul.

[waco1909]

Defending the Catholic Church.What a chore that is.

[Robert F]

preston wrote:

<quoted text>robert , dont try and teach something when you dont know what you are talking about.
THE BIBLE;
And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea,(they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.
YOU;I don't think of hell as being a "hot" place in the sense we think of as hot. Rather, as an abyss.
It is the place that the swine ran when the Legion and demons when Jesus cast them out....
an abyss is what seperates us from hell, not hell itself

preston

The Sea of Galilee was known as the Abyss

The Gospels of course is the teaching here. Not me.

The problem is that when Jesus is near to the demons they are driven out. They must obey.

The swine did not decide to run into the Abyss. This was the only place reserved for demons to exist....(Not some invention of mine.)

The choking aspect is what I refer to as being isolated, caught in their own self-torment, unable to move, unable to breathe.

http://www.followtherabbi.com/journey/israel/...

http://sermons.logos.com/submissions/92221-Se...

[LTM]

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[ReginaM]

LTM wrote:

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I would rather see what God says on this matter Regina, as I find catholic's do not have a clear view on what is or isn't scriptual.
I don't believe in abortion it is the murder of the innocent.
I just feel a church that preaches against it as murder and its views on homosexuality, should check out their own back yard first.
The abuse against children, for ions by the cathoic , who have murdered and destroyed the souls of these children have no right to judge others.
They employ pedophiles as well as homosexuals.
They have also killed and raped innocent children.

I feel very sorry for you. You're a bitter, twisted woman who relies on lies to calm her demons. But your demons are insatiable, there are never enough lies to make you feel better. Stop blaming the Catholic Church for what your protestant evangelical pentecostal father did to you and your siblings.

What Robert just said applies to you as well, maybe more so....you don't enlighten, you condemn. And in doing so condemn yourself.

[MICHAEL]

Free MInd wrote:

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We know that most Catholics aren't into this superior morality thing.
Most don't attend Mass regularly and could care less about the absurd "ONLY TRUE PERFECT" claim.
Then there are the RCC fundies here, who ask no questions and stand with Goliath against justice for orphans and deaf children.
These are known as "creeps."
Ireland had to break diplomatic relations before the creep leadership saw the light and shed a little creepiness. But here, the creeps are still in denial.

They are not in denial. Deep down they know the real truth, but FEAR grips their very souls to ever respond against mother church.

If the pope declared this sunday that catholics are encouraged to do their own happy dance after communion, Regina and Anthony would be doing head spins, and the splits in the middle isle.

If all we posted was GOOD news, after a few posts this forum would be dead.





Insults bounce off me like bullits off of superman.

[Anthony MN]

MICHAEL wrote:

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The catholic church is deeply divided today between RIGHT WING APOLOGIST catholics like you who do what you are told, and the vast majority today of liberal catholics who aren't afraid of change, and not afraid to speak up on issues.
Remember just 40 years ago, conservative catholics were the vast majority and ruled the church..... What happened?
Today we have priests forming UNIONS. Nuns defying the vatican, and these are the MOST holy of catholics, and wanting to open the windows of the church to let the old stale air out.
When the holiest members of your church are going against the status quo of your church leaders, what happens next?

Lol. Radical feminist (sometimes lesbian) pro-abortion gay approving socialist 'nuns' are not the holiest members of the Church. And neither are gay hippie priests. They may be in your opinion, but your opinion doesn't count because you're not Catholic.

They are leaving, dying, retiring or being forced out and it pisses them and you off. Get over it Mike.

[MICHAEL]

ReginaM wrote:

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Sarah??!! You really are delusional. Do you have any proof of these accusations? If not, I'd suggest you stop defaming me. Calumny is a sin (you'll find these words in the dictionary).
I'm not going to argue with you over this other than to say that the situation was the direct opposite of what you've been stating. This is no different than what you do to Christ and His church on a daily basis. I came back to this thread to defend both of them from *your* attacks, not the other way around.
God have mercy on your soul.

The honorable "JUDGE AND JURY" Ms REGINA M. has spoken.

[Robert F]

Free MInd wrote:

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Justice for the sexually abused is somehow furthered by the facilitator claiming diplomatic immunity??? That's rich!
Now it's the New Dark Age?
You are spinning like a top. The RCC is a failure and has resorted to immoral behavior to stem the tide.
The world is changing faster today than anytime in history. The Vatican is 50 to 100 years behind.
A perfect example...
Did you know that when Benedict was first elected Pope, the press asked about Benedict's NAZI Youth past, and the Vatican initially denied it. I guess the Vatican -- like you, were confusing the Age of Knowledge with the Dark Ages.
The Vatican can't get away with its old pattern of lies any longer.
BUSTED.
PS -- why not be a good church, instead of one trying to be something it is not, and thus never addressing the root and crimes within?
Diplomatic immunity is not justice for the abused orphans Robert. Get on the side of right and stop being a robot.

Free Mind

lol...First I am spinning like a top, then I am like a robot....You can't make up your mind....I know why....

The only reason you can make such statements was addressed more than 100 years ago by the RCC concerning modernism.

You are caught between one philosphy and another so...,

You flip/flop back and forth between modernism, and post-modernism. You think it is being free. One appeals to your sense of virtue at one time, then the other one appeals to your ego at another time.... Definitely a conflict on your part.... Its best to be single-minded (a house devided can't stand). You cannot serve two masters....

[Anthony MN]

Free MInd wrote:

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Robert, I agree 100%-- "Just because someone is accused does not mean it happens."
So why use diplomatic immunity to stop an investigation?
And never forget, single individuals do not have immunity. That is only granted at the institutional level.
Are you sure we're talking about the Church that claims to be uniquely guided by Jesus, "perfect teachings" on faith and morals?
Because if we're talking about THAT Church, sorry but God is greater than that, so the claim has to be wrong.
Robert, stop making excuses for obvious wrongs?

Maybe they know, like most of us, that the media circus environment and the big money trial lawyers would be drooling all over the chance to keep this story in the headlines for as long as they can. I wonder if Jeff Anderson is representing his clients pro bono?

[Anthony MN]

MICHAEL wrote:

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Not pissing me off. Thats good news!

Get over it. Your opinion doesn't matter. You're not Catholic anymore.

[Anthony MN]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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Oh I am.
I can see how you think you are self-important, when in fact you really aren't that special.
Maybe you should follow a little closer to what I'm posting to better understand your shortcomings when it comes to religion.

Mike said he's only telling me this crap because he thinks I need to know. And I told him what he needs to know. Why the double standard NASaL?

[MICHAEL]

Robert F wrote:

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Michael
Your fallacy is an argument of repetition. I have seen you post this at least a dozen times....You have exhausted all logic in the situation.
You think you are a herald as some sort of righteous person, when in fact you are anti-Christ and anti-God. That is, you think your conscience guides(should/must guide) the world.
You don't enlighten. You condemn. And in doing so, you condemn yourself. Its just that simple.

..You don't have to read my posts Robert. Almost 6 Billion others on this planet don't agree with your INDOCTRINATED catholicism either. You don't accept the beliefs of others outside of your belief? How can you judge them without facts?

I have stated on here, I do not believe in the trinity, and I was raised a roman catholic. Does that make me ANTI CHRIST in a negative sense? No it makes me a non believer. Are you ANTI- everyone but catholic? I hope not!

As you know there are probably just as many former or ex catholics on this forum as there are catholics. Much like the general baptized catholic population. If this forum was all conservative catholics this thread would have died a long long time ago.

We keep it going!

[Anthony MN]

Free MInd wrote:

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We know that most Catholics aren't into this superior morality thing.
Most don't attend Mass regularly and could care less about the absurd "ONLY TRUE PERFECT" claim.
Then there are the RCC fundies here, who ask no questions and stand with Goliath against justice for orphans and deaf children.
These are known as "creeps."
Ireland had to break diplomatic relations before the creep leadership saw the light and shed a little creepiness. But here, the creeps are still in denial.

Don't worry about it. You're pro abortion, abortion is legal. You're anti Catholic, the majority of the media, the president and all of academia is too.

When everyone is on your side, why do you feel the need to spend so much time on this board whining about the Catholic Church?

[New Age Spiritual Leader]

Robert F wrote:

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preston
The Sea of Galilee was known as the Abyss
The Gospels of course is the teaching here. Not me.
The problem is that when Jesus is near to the demons they are driven out. They must obey.
The swine did not decide to run into the Abyss. This was the only place reserved for demons to exist....(Not some invention of mine.)
The choking aspect is what I refer to as being isolated, caught in their own self-torment, unable to move, unable to breathe.
http://www.followtherabbi.com/journey/israel/...
http://sermons.logos.com/submissions/92221-Se...

Citation please - of your comparative atatement. One that includes this comparison.
"The Sea of Galilee was known as the Abyss."

Citation please of this "truth" you supply.
"The swine did not decide to run into the Abyss. This was the only place reserved for demons to exist....(Not some invention of mine.)"
- After all,you have stated that it is '(Not some invention of mine.)'

Thanks!