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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603264 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#415785 Jan 14, 2013
Disciple wrote:
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She wanted names? She got them. I have no reason to lie, I have no agenda. I did not find it in the Internet. It is real life information and she chooses to mock me for it.
Of course they will deny everything.
my PT at the local VA hospital is from Columbia. when we first met in in 1997, cathie wanted to adopt him and take him home to save him for our daughter

Since: Jan 08

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#415786 Jan 14, 2013
Disciple wrote:
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She wanted names? She got them. I have no reason to lie, I have no agenda. I did not find it in the Internet. It is real life information and she chooses to mock me for it.
Of course they will deny everything.
what is the difference between being an ordained bishop and a consecrated bishop/
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#415787 Jan 14, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>my PT at the local VA hospital is from Columbia. when we first met in in 1997, cathie wanted to adopt him and take him home to save him for our daughter
My wife was born in Monteria Colombia they are adorable people. Myself not being born there I think they are of a lot better quality than where I'm from.
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#415788 Jan 14, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>what is the difference between being an ordained bishop and a consecrated bishop/
Sorry cowboy ask the Catholics, I forgot all about it. I ceased being a catholic some 40 years ago.

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#415789 Jan 14, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>are you that naive that you really believe that you would get an honest answer.when Joeys family contacted griffen in columbus, they were stonewalled and this was a very rich family in cincy which is a predominate catholic town
here is a horible example of a coveup that has resulted in at least one death that is known of.

not money, death.

The Little Brothers of the Good Shepherd say Shaffer tested HIV negative and did not die of AIDS. Despite repeated requests, lawyers for the order declined to release his medical records to U.S. News.

if he tested negative, why did they not relase his record to prove that he didnt give aids to joey.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#415790 Jan 14, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>Robert F Good friend.
We know that the Old and New Testaments are A Witness also the two lamp stands and two Olive trees. However the two witness's mentioned in Revelations 11
3
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4
¶ These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. Zech. 4.3
5
And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: 1 Kgs. 17.1 and have power over waters to turn them to blood, Ex. 7.17-19 and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
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And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit Dan. 7.3 · Rev. 13.5-7 ; 17.8 shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, Dan. 7.21 and kill them.
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And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom Is. 1.9, 10 and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9
And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10
And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11
And after three days and a half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; Ezek. 37.10 and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12
And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; 2 Kgs. 2.11 and their enemies beheld them.
13
And the same hour was there a great earthquake, Rev. 6.12 ; 16.18 and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
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¶ The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
You will notice in the previous chapter the angel told John
Revelations 10
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and sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
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but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
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¶ And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
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And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
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And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. Ezek. 2.8--3.3
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And he said unto me,[........Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings..........
CONTINUED
P.S.

Revelation 1:9

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

I will elaborate more at a later date I believe the two witnesses will also be in in the spirit and power of Elijah.

Not for certain about Ezekial for sure but will provide scripture later on the why etc.

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#415791 Jan 14, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>P.S.
Revelation 1:9
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
I will elaborate more at a later date I believe the two witnesses will also be in in the spirit and power of Elijah.
Not for certain about Ezekial for sure but will provide scripture later on the why etc.
if you come up with any name of a person already dead, you are a false prophet, and not only that ignorant,.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#415792 Jan 15, 2013
DaSarge wrote:
Of course it does! The Roman Church has ALWAYS held that it is the one treue church, started directly by Jesus Christ Himself when he said to Peter: "Thou art Peter (the rock) and upon this Rock I will build my Church. And all the forces of hell shall not prevail against it. I give to you, Peter the grace to bind in Heaven what you bind on Earth, and what you loose on Earth, so shall it also be loosed in Heaven". And with that, Peter became the first of the popes, ultimately the first Bishop of Rome, and no other church can offer Salvation; only the sacraments as granted by the priesthood of the Roman Catholic Church can give the sacraments as no other church has that right; as soon as their bishops broke with Rome, they entered into heresy and were excommunicated. Read the Baltimore Catechism. I did.<quoted text>
The RCC is just chocked full of blasphemies. And FYI, when Christ stated that the gates of hell will not prevail against His church,I present to you metaphorically speaking that the RCC are the gates of hell.
4GVN

Scott City, MO

#415793 Jan 15, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Please explain why Jewish temples are being unearthed today that have graven images in them?
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Do you mean the Jews who rejected the Messiah? Not something I would want to base my religious practices on.
AGAIN what does it mean when God says..."Thou shalt NOT make unto thyself ANY GRAVEN IMAGES? You keep trying to tell me what it doesn't mea. I am asking you what it does mean. AGAIN.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#415794 Jan 15, 2013
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Do you mean the Jews who rejected the Messiah? Not something I would want to base my religious practices on.
AGAIN what does it mean when God says..."Thou shalt NOT make unto thyself ANY GRAVEN IMAGES? You keep trying to tell me what it doesn't mea. I am asking you what it does mean. AGAIN.
give it up. You know our answers and you been proven wrong ten fold.

Temples that existed before Christ reveal graven images because God not only said it was ok....He commanded it.
Deceit is the only way you can function. You've isolated a part of the ten commandments, and now you use that line to bear false witness.
You have a brain, I know you know what would make God jealous. Your hands ain't washed.
Pat

Granby, CT

#415795 Jan 15, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Believe it or not... I love reading comments from Atheist. You guys are amusing. We can always count on a insult... its comical. It reminds me of the South Park episode with your Pope, Richard Dawkins. In the story, Mr Dawkins was a nice guy til he fell in love with Mrs. Garrison - who used to be a guy. Richard then learned from her, how to be a prick. Hilarious.
of course, you enjoy the anonymity of the internet and wouldn't say it to anyone's face. Not mine anyway..lol
Insult? You mean like the bigoted opinion that all those who don't accept your flavor of god garbage will go to hell? You amoral dishonest theists are the masters of insult and you deserve ridicule for the promotion of this ignorant death denying god garbage you promote.
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415796 Jan 15, 2013
Disciple wrote:
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She wanted names? She got them. I have no reason to lie, I have no agenda. I did not find it in the Internet. It is real life information and she chooses to mock me for it.
Of course they will deny everything.
You are not alone. They have no choice but to lie and deny the obvious.

Example -- every news article presented about how the Vatican uses diplomatic immunity -- rejected by the true believers as "innuendo." (Germans did the same during the Nazi Era.)

If raping orphans is something they easily close their minds too, why not your story?

PS --- the country of Ireland stopped closing their collective minds and broke diplomatic relations with the Vatican, until the Vatican woke up.

That's innuendo too?

Shameful and disgusting.
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415797 Jan 15, 2013
If their miraculous claims are true, then the Roman Catholic Church is the biggest failure in history.

Only about 5% of humanity are practicing Catholics.

Jesus suffered and died, supposedly gave the RCC perfect teachings on faith and morals -- and so far, only saved 5% of humanity through this supposed "appointed" church.

Why bother with so much suffering to save mankind from sin -- when only 5% are saved through the supposed "one-true" path?

The child sex-abuse scandal is nothing.

The RCC has failed Jesus.

Ummm? Maybe there's a connection?

Today, only about 25% of the members the lying Vatican claims are actually practicing Catholics. Most humans reject the idea of protecting child rapists. But there are always those who will blindly follow. Ask the Nazis.

Oh wait --
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415798 Jan 15, 2013
One can "debate" Scripture until the cows come home, because nothing can be proven.

However, I judge the RCC the way Jesus told us -- judge them by their deeds.

Yes, we have historical, real-life records and proof of RCC deeds.

No debate needed -- just the irrefutable facts.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#415799 Jan 15, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I dont believe it will be any of the above for the reason that they have already died, or in the case of Enoch, translated.
as it is written, it is appointed unto man once to die.
I use the words of jesus, when he spoke of John the Baptist, and all fo the jew were waiting for elijah to come back to usher in the Kingdom of the Messiah and he told them that John was Elijah, not litteraly but Figurtively.
now to my opinion, I dont know who it will be,to be honest.
I think it will be Two Christians, that God has chosen a long time ago, for this special work, that are left here on Heaven aften the Rapture, and I do beleive that Heaven knows who they will be.
I think one time, that I might have been told, and a name that was given to me was of a person named john, or jonah, but it could have been given me for another reason, I just dont know. I am sorry.
No problem

It's an interesting discussion and I just wanted your thoughts..thanks
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415800 Jan 15, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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No problem
It's an interesting discussion and I just wanted your thoughts..thanks
Hey Chuck,

I believe it will be more than two witnesses...

Just my opinion...
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415801 Jan 15, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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No problem
It's an interesting discussion and I just wanted your thoughts..thanks
Chuck,

Match these verses up to Rev 11 and find verses for Moses:

Elijah

2 Kings 2:11

11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.

1 Kings 17:1

17 Now Elijah the Tishbite, from Tishbe in Gilead, said to Ahab,“As the Lord, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word.”

Luke 4:25

25 I assure you that there were many widows in Israel in Elijah’s time, when the sky was shut for three and a half years and there was a severe famine throughout the land.

James 5:17-18

17 Elijah was a human being, even as we are. He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years.

18 Again he prayed, and the heavens gave rain, and the earth produced its crops.

Malachi 3:1-3

3 “I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come,” says the Lord Almighty.

2 But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap.

3 He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; he will purify the Levites and refine them like gold and silver. Then the Lord will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness,

Malachi 4:5-6

5 “See, I will send the prophet Elijah to you before that great and dreadful day of the Lord comes.

6 He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the hearts of the children to their parents; or else I will come and strike the land with total destruction.”

*****

I would say that the two witnesses represent all of God’s servants who are proclaiming the Word of the Lord.

Revelation 11:7

7 [[[[[Now when they have finished their testimony,]]]]] the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415802 Jan 15, 2013
We must remember that God's people need to proclaim God's message regardless of the cost.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415803 Jan 15, 2013
Also, we must remember that these two witnesses proclaimed God's message....as a result, costing them their lives.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#415804 Jan 15, 2013
Revelation 11:4

4 They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”

Zechariah 4:3

3 Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left.”

Zechariah 4:11

11 Then I asked the angel,“What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand?”

Zechariah 4:14

14 So he said,“These are the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth.”

The work of the 'church' is to share the Gospel with the world.

All of God's servants....

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