Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415165 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You don't get to decide what Catholics believe. I see allot of finger pointing towards us; people telling us what we believe instead of asking us. How many posts start out,'Catholics think that...
Catholics believe in ... Catholicism is..'
you guys hate what you think is the Catholic Church, not what IS the Catholic Church.
More absurd rationalization.

"Individual sinners" can not avoid the truth and eventual justice for thousands of sexually abused orphans.

Only THE CHURCH can do so by invoking diplomatic immunity.

BUSTED
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415166 Jan 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Again---why don't you ask your other 42,000+ Protestant, inconsistent, contradiction and conflicting denominations. Each one will give their own distorted "personal opinionated hodge-podge" of (mis-interpretation) and "spin" of each bible verse.
Thankfully America's Founders got their morality from -- as the morally superior HOJO writes...

... "their own distorted "personal opinionated hodge-podge" of (mis-interpretation) and "spin" of each bible verse."

Hojo has no choice but to avoid reality.

This is REFORMATION AMERICA Hojo, not Catholic totalitarian America. Hojo is free to choose.

Hojo is all talk, zero walk.
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415167 Jan 13, 2013
When it comes to Mary, the RCC uses her like a pimp.

FACT: Mary would CERTAINLY stand with raped orphans AGAINST this evil, creepy church.

FACT: Mary would never threaten the world with World War 2, as the RCC claims she did at Fatima. That is another huge RCC lie.

REALITY-for-Catholics-in-Denia l -- ever since 1917, every single Pope has made a pilgrimage to Fatima, claiming it as the RCC's "most important miracle" -- but no one is "required" to believe what the RCC says about Fatima.

LMAO! What a song and dance. Typical of pimps too, denying how they use women.

The "secrets of Fatima are a creepy hoax, and they make Mary sound mean and absurd.

Creeps!
truth

Perth, Australia

#415168 Jan 13, 2013
Jesus Christ is my deliverer.
Did you have poison with fluoride..water toothpaste or what?
http://www.lovethetruth.com/truth_about_fluor...
http://rense.com/general93/fluo.htm
truth

Perth, Australia

#415169 Jan 13, 2013
Do you liked diploma..holy killers..yes it is pray for them..mama farmaceutic.
http://rense.com/general93/fluo.htm
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415170 Jan 13, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
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Since 1917, every Pope without exception has made a pilgrimage to Fatima.
Here is what Mary supposedly said about how to save souls from Hell:
"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart."
Or else World War Two, but that's another story.
Just worship Mary's Heart.
FREE MIND says......Mary has seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go.

Michael says......another croc! More scare tactics more fear.

If the souls of POOR SINNERS go to hell, does that mean were all heading to hell if catholics keep saying "WE ARE ALL SINNNERS"

I have a hazmat suit ready just in case.

MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415171 Jan 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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This is just more of your "same old" distorted and perverted "anti-Catholic" pollution and garbage" comments that you (and other Protestants) are so "famous for"! By-the-ways---do you work for a sanitation trash company? You must. because you "sure know how" to "dig up" junk!!!
HOJO says.......By-the-ways---do you work for a sanitation trash company?

MICHAEL says....do you have something against sanitation department workers, they haul away all the crap that you create?



“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#415172 Jan 13, 2013
Anyone have Facebook? If you do, check out this page:
"Americans United for Christian Rights"

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Americans-Unit...

But don't make any comment, except for, "I agree with you!"

All other opinions are, "Das ist streng verboten!"

They claim to be at war with gays and Atheists. Why did jesus waste his time saying, "Love thy neighbor"?
guest

United States

#415173 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
All Marian doctrine is rooted in this fact: her Son is God made manifest. Jesus is God.
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All Marian doctrine is made up by the Catholic church (more accurately the pope) and there is no basis in scripture.
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Jesus Christ said, "The Father is greater than I am." John 14:28
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Clay wrote:
Once you realize who Christ is, its easy to understand who Mary is.
Why did Christ bring His Mother into Heaven without suffering death?
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Christ realized who he is and he told everyone so they would also know. If you ignore the words of Christ himself and believe the pope instead, you are believing man rather than God.
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Again, Jesus Christ said, "The Father is greater than I am." John 14:28
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Clay wrote:
Why did God (Christ) make His Mother without the blemish of sin?
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Why did the pope say Mary was without sin? Christ never did. Not once.
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Clay wrote:
Because He could. If anyone of us had the ability to make our Mother that way, we would have. But we couldn't. Jesus could and He did.
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Jesus did not make his mother without sin.
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for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23
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Clay, there has to be a standard to follow. It doesn't need to be written in stone, like the 10 commandments (which the church tried to rewrite) but there has to be a record of what Jesus said. The church has tried to rewrite what Jesus said, too.
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The church has tried to add to the Word of God to suit itself. You can't do that.
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The reason is because you get an entirely different belief system that what Christ taught. You can't do that. You have to listen to God, rather than men. You don't get to make up stuff as you go along. It isn't Christian that way. You are not following Christ, that way. You are following the pope and he is not qualified to change the Word of God.
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Don't you understand? only God is qualified to change his word.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415174 Jan 13, 2013
REMEBERING A GRAND LADY--
REMEMBER THIS LADY!!!
Look at this lady - Let us never forget!
The world hasn't just become wicked...it's always been wicked.
The prize doesn't always go to the most deserving.
Irena Sendler
Died 12 May 2008 (aged 98)
Warsaw, Poland
During WWII, Irena, got permission to work in the Warsaw ghetto, as a plumbing/sewer specialist.
She had an 'ulterior motive'.
She KNEW what the Nazi's plans were for the Jews (being German).
Irena smuggled infants out in the bottom of the tool box she carried and she carried in the back of her truck a burlap sack,(for larger kids).
She also had a dog in the back that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in and out of the ghetto.
The soldiers of course wanted nothing to do with the dog and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.
During her time of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500 kids/infants.
She was caught, and the Nazi's broke both her legs, arms and beat her severely.
Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids she smuggled out and kept them in a glass jar, buried under a tree in her back yard.
After the war, she tried to locate any parents that may have survived it and reunited the family.
Most had been gassed. Those kids she helped got placed into foster family homes or adopted.
Last year Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize.
She was not selected.
President Obama won one year before becoming President for his work as a community organizer for ACORN
and
Al Gore won also --- for a slide show on Global Warming.
In MEMORIAM - 63 YEARS LATER
I'm doing my small part by forwarding this message.
I hope you'll consider doing the same...
It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended.
This is being posted as a memorial chain, in memory of the six million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated by the Nazis.
Now, more than ever, with Iran, and others, claiming the HOLOCAUST to be 'a myth'. It's imperative to make sure the world never forgets, because there are others who would like to do it again, and this time, it may be your religious, ethnic, sexual preference or 'whatever' group.
guest

United States

#415176 Jan 13, 2013
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Don't you understand? only God is qualified to change his word.
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Only God is qualified to execute evildoers, but somehow men have decided they are doing God's job for him when they execute 'heretics'.
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guest

United States

#415177 Jan 13, 2013
Is the pope qualified to do God's job, Clay?
4GVN

Scott City, MO

#415178 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Every time I take the time and answer your questions, you just ignore it. Your mind is made up no matter what evidence is presented before you. That is the only way your religion functions.(trust me I know) The people need to submit to complete ignorance to be a part of your congregation, and that's why I rejected that path.
You guys should be the ones required to answer questions.
Why does a beautiful statue of the Mother of Christ offend you? Why is God jealous of that statue?
If we had an actual photograph of Mary holding Jesus, would God be jealous of that too?
While your at it, answer this: Where does Jesus teach sola scripture? where do his apostles teach sola scripture?
It would be quicker and more honest to just say..."DUH, I don't no? And I am not able to think for myself."

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415179 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Who knows what "sod pottage" means?
The King James states:
And Jacob **sod pottage**: and Esau came from the field, and he was **faint**:
goat stew, and weak.
just because you dont understand what is said, doesnt mean that others cant. didnt you ever take english lit in High school?
as for me, I dont understand any of the new translations. they make no sense at all.the KJV is the best transliteration of Koine greek and Hebrew, bar none.
any person on here can Google "sod Pottage" and see if THEY come up with my words of it being "goat stew".so how would I know that to be the case, the answer is obvious, I am intelligent.

first, he had many herds, both sheep and goats.

now he would probably not eat Mutton since they depended on that animal for their clothing, so that eliminates that animal , leaving goat.

so how could I determine that it was meat instead of just veggies, again, the answer is obvious(at least to me). he was faint or tired and weak(the heat in that area does drain a person), so to strengthen his body, he needed to put "MEAT" into his system.

all of that together, which probably took me 5 seconds or so(much longer to type it than to think i).

another example of the Kings english is the word "let". this word is only used today in the sport of tennis. and in the Bible it refers to the Holy Ghost holding back the devil.

and as far as me using newer translations.not in a million years. God proved this KJV back in 1982 when i first got Saved. He has never proved those newer books.

I woke up one morning bothered about Cathie, so I went to my moms and called her at the Hospital and she started crying and told me how rough a night her dad had.before I left home, God told me to take my Bible that I would need it. and when I walked into the ICU, I heard the noise that he was making and another patient told me it was this way all night.God told me to put one hand on him and teh otehr on my Bible and so I did and to Pray for him. when I began, teh spirit came out of that Bible into me and thru me, shortly, I ended my prayer with these words:Lord , I commend his soul into your hands".and then cathie and teh otehr nurses came in but they werent needed, God had touched him and saved his soul,too.

I dont need your new books, this One suits God just right.lol

and me!
4GVN

Scott City, MO

#415180 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
All Marian doctrine is rooted in this fact: her Son is God made manifest. Jesus is God.
Once you realize who Christ is, its easy to understand who Mary is.
Why did Christ bring His Mother into Heaven without suffering death?
Why did God (Christ) make His Mother without the blemish of sin?
Because He could. If anyone of us had the ability to make our Mother that way, we would have. But we couldn't. Jesus could and He did.
That in no way explains the unbalanced devotion and exaltation of Mary.
You claim catholics do not worship Mary, but the problem is that you do not understand what the scriptures define as worship.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415181 Jan 13, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>LTM I am doing better. Its a slow recovery process but I am overjoyed that the fluid has not returned to my lungs and I have stayed out of the hopsital. I hope you are well.When you really have someone in your heart,the grief never really completely leaves. But it gets easier to cope with. Certainly Christ and His promise heals and comforts. Stay well. Luv ya.
Hi Herme good to hear from you, so the fluid is staying out of your lungs that is great I am so glad.
Hospitals are no place to be because we always want to be close to our loved ones.
You wife had to do so long distant driving to see you also.
Well I know my friend is with the Lord, you should have seen the people at the church giving testemony about this woman.
Its going to be a celebration when we all get to heaven Herme.
What a party we have to look forward to. love you too Herme. God Bless.
4GVN

Scott City, MO

#415182 Jan 13, 2013
QUOTE who="Clay"<quoted text>
All Marian doctrine is rooted in this fact: her Son is God made manifest. Jesus is God.
"How does that in any way define "Marion doctrine"? It does not.
Once you realize who Christ is, its easy to understand who Mary is.
Why did Christ bring His Mother into Heaven without suffering death?
ANSWER: He did not. This is just a product of roman catholic fables. Nothing in all of scripture indictates any such thing.
Why did God (Christ) make His Mother without the blemish of sin?
Because He could. If anyone of us had the ability to make our Mother that way, we would have. But we couldn't. Jesus could and He did.
ANSWER: Again your belies are based on fables with no hint of scripurat evidence. In fact with no evidence from any where.
Your beliefs are quite simply fairy tales. And your devotion and worship of Mary detracts from the all suffciency of the SAVIOUR.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415183 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Matthew 28
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Acts 2
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Aviela are you telling me you can't find the connection between this 2 scriptures ??? Not to mention you said Holy Ghost wasn't in the bible. Come on your the bible expert remember .

Alright Why did Jesus say Baptize in the Name of The Father, In the Name of the Son, and In God the Holy Spirit.
and Peter said in the Name of Jesus Christ , did Peter teach something different the Jesus.
By the way the Pentcostal Church split because of these two scriptures.
I will be waiting for your answer.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#415184 Jan 13, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>And you have settled for being in the same par with the Muslims,Hindus,and every other religion that believes Jesus is a Prophet,a good man,a godly man,a cosmic man,a messenger sent by God(Allah,Krishna,and whoever else).You have settled for one man that started the JW movement from Britain first,Rutherford,and of course Russel as well,who your organization was once called ((Russelites).
He changed the Scriptures to suit his theory that Jesus is a lesser god,read it for yourself in JOHN chapter One. Aviela, you were once a RC?
When I see Jehovah Witnesses,I see an organization that follows after those two men who started and furthered the LIE,that God(Jehovah) is no different from the Allah of Islam.Jesus is a super hero or star for your group.
I have never met a Jehovah Witness who could explain the Virgin Birth,nor could even attempt to explain how Jesus is just a superhero with no father.
Aviela,it is one thing to believe that JESUS is Unique,but it is another to KNOW that He is the SON of G o d,Son of Jehovah,Son of Elohim,Son of the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob.He is the Son that is the only Begotten of the Father in glory(This day I have begotten Thee) as stated in the Psalms.
Why settle for a superhero when you can have the SON who is worshiped by the Angels,glorified by His own Father?
Why settle for being one with the Muslims,and all those who deny the Deity of the Christ,Who was,and IS and IS to Come?
Explain to us Aviela WHO and W H A T Jesus is,and don't forget the Virgin Birth,the becoming human and having flesh and bones? Don't forget John the Apostle's warning that if we do not believe Jesus came in the flesh we are anti[-Christ.What does that mean? I noticed that you never replied to my other posts to you.
Nor has she replied to mine.
Good post Pad.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#415185 Jan 13, 2013
Aviela wrote:
I want to answer all your questions and slander you make about my faith. But I can only take one question at a time and so por favor be patient with me...I only have 2 hands. Like I said before I'm not here to try and convert anyone but to clear Jehovah's name.
Clear His name?

No one is saying anything against The Almighty.

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller,
>>>>The mighty God,
>>>>The everlasting Father,
>>>>The Prince of Peace.

Who is our Father?

Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"--which means, "God with us."

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