Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#415157 Jan 13, 2013
disciple wrote:
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Well, that is why I'm asking you. Why would I want an inconsistent, conflicting contradiction from so many denominations when I can go to you that has a total of 8 years of Bible experience.
Come on lay it on me.
Afraid to be in the 41,000+ pile?
Lets put it this way! I/myself, the other Catholics on this forum and Catholic Church Church (itself) is, and never has been a part of your 41,000+(now over 42,000)pile of inconsistent and contradiction (mish-mash) of bible (mis-interpretation Protestant beliefs........ Quite frankly,I want (no part of it, having my "fill of these distortions" for over 35 years as a bible only Protestant. It is ALL YOURS!!! You can have it!!!!
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#415158 Jan 13, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>preston is not catholic?? thought he was,if not my apologies for my mistake,but what i said still applies to what catholics believe.
You don't get to decide what Catholics believe. I see allot of finger pointing towards us; people telling us what we believe instead of asking us. How many posts start out,'Catholics think that...
Catholics believe in ... Catholicism is..'

you guys hate what you think is the Catholic Church, not what IS the Catholic Church.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#415159 Jan 13, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>preston is not catholic?? thought he was,if not my apologies for my mistake,but what i said still applies to what catholics believe.
You thought Preston was Catholic? lol

He just calls out the hypocrisy amongst you guys, that's all. None of you will admit it, but you are all doctrinally a mess. He has guts to stand up when he sees deception.
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415161 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Every time I take the time and answer your questions, you just ignore it. Your mind is made up no matter what evidence is presented before you. That is the only way your religion functions.(trust me I know) The people need to submit to complete ignorance to be a part of your congregation, and that's why I rejected that path.
You guys should be the ones required to answer questions.
Why does a beautiful statue of the Mother of Christ offend you? Why is God jealous of that statue?
If we had an actual photograph of Mary holding Jesus, would God be jealous of that too?
While your at it, answer this: Where does Jesus teach sola scripture? where do his apostles teach sola scripture?
Clay -- a spiritually superior ones writes how others "need to submit to complete ignorance to be a part of your congregation.... "

Yet the spiritually superior Catholics only need to look south to see the fruits of their system of faith -- totalitarianism, backwardness, poverty, and crime.

This is why Catholics seek to leave supposed "spiritually superior" (ONLY TRUE) Catholic-majorities -- and NOT the other way around.

This is what is commonly called "reality."

Clay's supposed "superior" faith -- for over 100 years stood against that of 99% of America's Founders -- who according to Clay "submit to complete ignorance."

This from a "superior" faith that uses Diplomatic Immunity -- given to it by their patron Bonito Mussolini -- to avoid justice for thousands of sexually abused orphans.

Impressive ..... NOT!
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415162 Jan 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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I'm not going to "waste my time" answering questions about the Catholic faith to "Indoctrinated Protestants" who have their minds and hearts "ingrained and duped" with anti-catholic heresy, hypocricy and hate. If you want ANY of your questions answered, go and read the Catholic Catechism (that is "if you dare) and you will find the TRUTH of what the bible (actually). You will also find the TRUE interpretation of the bible which was handed down by the Early Church Fathers in 382, 393 and 397AD, who gave you Protestants the bible, which you mis-interpret and mis-use to your own "demise and destruction"!!!
Actually, it was 100% of America's Founders who "mis-interpret and mis-use" to their own "demise and destruction" -- according to Hojo of the ONLY True spiritually superior faith.

I say 100% and not 99% of America's Founders, because I discover they John Carroll was considered a heretic by the Vatican.

Carroll wanted the USA Catholic Church to be governed through a democratic process run by U.S. Priests.

Today's Catholic conservatives stand against 100% of America's Founders ....... and against orphans and deaf children, but that's yet another story the supporters of the superior ONLY TRUE faith wish to avoid.

TRUTH, JUSTICE, REFORMATION AMERICA
Clay

United States

#415163 Jan 13, 2013
4GVN wrote:
Clay, here are the questions again if you would like to be honest and respond...'4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>..........Why then is all of the emphasis on Mary? Why do you not have statues of Jesus in every yard? Think Clay. Driving through Catholic neighborhoods one would rightly assume that the emphasis is on Mary. That Mary is the most important person. That Mary is the objest of worship and devotion. WHY is this the message being portrayed? Why is there an abnormal amount of sinful problems within the Catholic Church. Why was there a sex abuse cover-up? If you can't trust the church with the truth about the sex abuse, why would you believe that you could trust them with other matters? Why are catholic priests dieing of aids at a rate of 4 times higher than the average public.(And they take VOWS of celibacy.)
All Marian doctrine is rooted in this fact: her Son is God made manifest. Jesus is God.

Once you realize who Christ is, its easy to understand who Mary is.

Why did Christ bring His Mother into Heaven without suffering death?
Why did God (Christ) make His Mother without the blemish of sin?

Because He could. If anyone of us had the ability to make our Mother that way, we would have. But we couldn't. Jesus could and He did.
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415164 Jan 13, 2013
Reality 101......

Catholics care more about their (1) wallets and their (2) image --- than about the truth and justice for hundreds, if not thousands of sexually abused orphans in their charge.

No Catholic here dares to confront this reality.

Matthew, Mark and Luke ALL report the same teaching of Jesus -- "whoever would harm one of these little ones, it would be better for him if he had a heavy weight fastened about his neck and be thrown into the sea" (or similar, depending on translation).

Matthew, Mark and Luke ALL agree.

There is no such thing as HOLY Diplomatic Immunity from justice for children.
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415165 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't get to decide what Catholics believe. I see allot of finger pointing towards us; people telling us what we believe instead of asking us. How many posts start out,'Catholics think that...
Catholics believe in ... Catholicism is..'
you guys hate what you think is the Catholic Church, not what IS the Catholic Church.
More absurd rationalization.

"Individual sinners" can not avoid the truth and eventual justice for thousands of sexually abused orphans.

Only THE CHURCH can do so by invoking diplomatic immunity.

BUSTED
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415166 Jan 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Again---why don't you ask your other 42,000+ Protestant, inconsistent, contradiction and conflicting denominations. Each one will give their own distorted "personal opinionated hodge-podge" of (mis-interpretation) and "spin" of each bible verse.
Thankfully America's Founders got their morality from -- as the morally superior HOJO writes...

... "their own distorted "personal opinionated hodge-podge" of (mis-interpretation) and "spin" of each bible verse."

Hojo has no choice but to avoid reality.

This is REFORMATION AMERICA Hojo, not Catholic totalitarian America. Hojo is free to choose.

Hojo is all talk, zero walk.
Free MInd

Melbourne, FL

#415167 Jan 13, 2013
When it comes to Mary, the RCC uses her like a pimp.

FACT: Mary would CERTAINLY stand with raped orphans AGAINST this evil, creepy church.

FACT: Mary would never threaten the world with World War 2, as the RCC claims she did at Fatima. That is another huge RCC lie.

REALITY-for-Catholics-in-Denia l -- ever since 1917, every single Pope has made a pilgrimage to Fatima, claiming it as the RCC's "most important miracle" -- but no one is "required" to believe what the RCC says about Fatima.

LMAO! What a song and dance. Typical of pimps too, denying how they use women.

The "secrets of Fatima are a creepy hoax, and they make Mary sound mean and absurd.

Creeps!
truth

Perth, Australia

#415168 Jan 13, 2013
Jesus Christ is my deliverer.
Did you have poison with fluoride..water toothpaste or what?
http://www.lovethetruth.com/truth_about_fluor...
http://rense.com/general93/fluo.htm
truth

Perth, Australia

#415169 Jan 13, 2013
Do you liked diploma..holy killers..yes it is pray for them..mama farmaceutic.
http://rense.com/general93/fluo.htm
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415170 Jan 13, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
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Since 1917, every Pope without exception has made a pilgrimage to Fatima.
Here is what Mary supposedly said about how to save souls from Hell:
"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart."
Or else World War Two, but that's another story.
Just worship Mary's Heart.
FREE MIND says......Mary has seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go.

Michael says......another croc! More scare tactics more fear.

If the souls of POOR SINNERS go to hell, does that mean were all heading to hell if catholics keep saying "WE ARE ALL SINNNERS"

I have a hazmat suit ready just in case.

MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#415171 Jan 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
This is just more of your "same old" distorted and perverted "anti-Catholic" pollution and garbage" comments that you (and other Protestants) are so "famous for"! By-the-ways---do you work for a sanitation trash company? You must. because you "sure know how" to "dig up" junk!!!
HOJO says.......By-the-ways---do you work for a sanitation trash company?

MICHAEL says....do you have something against sanitation department workers, they haul away all the crap that you create?



“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#415172 Jan 13, 2013
Anyone have Facebook? If you do, check out this page:
"Americans United for Christian Rights"

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Americans-Unit...

But don't make any comment, except for, "I agree with you!"

All other opinions are, "Das ist streng verboten!"

They claim to be at war with gays and Atheists. Why did jesus waste his time saying, "Love thy neighbor"?
guest

United States

#415173 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
All Marian doctrine is rooted in this fact: her Son is God made manifest. Jesus is God.
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All Marian doctrine is made up by the Catholic church (more accurately the pope) and there is no basis in scripture.
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Jesus Christ said, "The Father is greater than I am." John 14:28
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Clay wrote:
Once you realize who Christ is, its easy to understand who Mary is.
Why did Christ bring His Mother into Heaven without suffering death?
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Christ realized who he is and he told everyone so they would also know. If you ignore the words of Christ himself and believe the pope instead, you are believing man rather than God.
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Again, Jesus Christ said, "The Father is greater than I am." John 14:28
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Clay wrote:
Why did God (Christ) make His Mother without the blemish of sin?
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Why did the pope say Mary was without sin? Christ never did. Not once.
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Clay wrote:
Because He could. If anyone of us had the ability to make our Mother that way, we would have. But we couldn't. Jesus could and He did.
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Jesus did not make his mother without sin.
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for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23
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Clay, there has to be a standard to follow. It doesn't need to be written in stone, like the 10 commandments (which the church tried to rewrite) but there has to be a record of what Jesus said. The church has tried to rewrite what Jesus said, too.
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The church has tried to add to the Word of God to suit itself. You can't do that.
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The reason is because you get an entirely different belief system that what Christ taught. You can't do that. You have to listen to God, rather than men. You don't get to make up stuff as you go along. It isn't Christian that way. You are not following Christ, that way. You are following the pope and he is not qualified to change the Word of God.
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Don't you understand? only God is qualified to change his word.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#415174 Jan 13, 2013
REMEBERING A GRAND LADY--
REMEMBER THIS LADY!!!
Look at this lady - Let us never forget!
The world hasn't just become wicked...it's always been wicked.
The prize doesn't always go to the most deserving.
Irena Sendler
Died 12 May 2008 (aged 98)
Warsaw, Poland
During WWII, Irena, got permission to work in the Warsaw ghetto, as a plumbing/sewer specialist.
She had an 'ulterior motive'.
She KNEW what the Nazi's plans were for the Jews (being German).
Irena smuggled infants out in the bottom of the tool box she carried and she carried in the back of her truck a burlap sack,(for larger kids).
She also had a dog in the back that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in and out of the ghetto.
The soldiers of course wanted nothing to do with the dog and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.
During her time of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500 kids/infants.
She was caught, and the Nazi's broke both her legs, arms and beat her severely.
Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids she smuggled out and kept them in a glass jar, buried under a tree in her back yard.
After the war, she tried to locate any parents that may have survived it and reunited the family.
Most had been gassed. Those kids she helped got placed into foster family homes or adopted.
Last year Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize.
She was not selected.
President Obama won one year before becoming President for his work as a community organizer for ACORN
and
Al Gore won also --- for a slide show on Global Warming.
In MEMORIAM - 63 YEARS LATER
I'm doing my small part by forwarding this message.
I hope you'll consider doing the same...
It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended.
This is being posted as a memorial chain, in memory of the six million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated by the Nazis.
Now, more than ever, with Iran, and others, claiming the HOLOCAUST to be 'a myth'. It's imperative to make sure the world never forgets, because there are others who would like to do it again, and this time, it may be your religious, ethnic, sexual preference or 'whatever' group.
guest

United States

#415176 Jan 13, 2013
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Don't you understand? only God is qualified to change his word.
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Only God is qualified to execute evildoers, but somehow men have decided they are doing God's job for him when they execute 'heretics'.
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guest

United States

#415177 Jan 13, 2013
Is the pope qualified to do God's job, Clay?
4GVN

Scott City, MO

#415178 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Every time I take the time and answer your questions, you just ignore it. Your mind is made up no matter what evidence is presented before you. That is the only way your religion functions.(trust me I know) The people need to submit to complete ignorance to be a part of your congregation, and that's why I rejected that path.
You guys should be the ones required to answer questions.
Why does a beautiful statue of the Mother of Christ offend you? Why is God jealous of that statue?
If we had an actual photograph of Mary holding Jesus, would God be jealous of that too?
While your at it, answer this: Where does Jesus teach sola scripture? where do his apostles teach sola scripture?
It would be quicker and more honest to just say..."DUH, I don't no? And I am not able to think for myself."

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