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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 647079 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Dianella, Australia

#415168 Jan 13, 2013
Jesus Christ is my deliverer.
Did you have poison with fluoride..water toothpaste or what?

Dianella, Australia

#415169 Jan 13, 2013
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#415170 Jan 13, 2013
Free MInd wrote:
<quoted text>
Since 1917, every Pope without exception has made a pilgrimage to Fatima.
Here is what Mary supposedly said about how to save souls from Hell:
"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart."
Or else World War Two, but that's another story.
Just worship Mary's Heart.
FREE MIND says......Mary has seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go.

Michael says......another croc! More scare tactics more fear.

If the souls of POOR SINNERS go to hell, does that mean were all heading to hell if catholics keep saying "WE ARE ALL SINNNERS"

I have a hazmat suit ready just in case.



#415171 Jan 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
This is just more of your "same old" distorted and perverted "anti-Catholic" pollution and garbage" comments that you (and other Protestants) are so "famous for"! By-the-ways---do you work for a sanitation trash company? You must. because you "sure know how" to "dig up" junk!!!
HOJO says.......By-the-ways---do you work for a sanitation trash company?

MICHAEL you have something against sanitation department workers, they haul away all the crap that you create?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#415172 Jan 13, 2013
Anyone have Facebook? If you do, check out this page:
"Americans United for Christian Rights"

But don't make any comment, except for, "I agree with you!"

All other opinions are, "Das ist streng verboten!"

They claim to be at war with gays and Atheists. Why did jesus waste his time saying, "Love thy neighbor"?

United States

#415173 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
All Marian doctrine is rooted in this fact: her Son is God made manifest. Jesus is God.
All Marian doctrine is made up by the Catholic church (more accurately the pope) and there is no basis in scripture.
Jesus Christ said, "The Father is greater than I am." John 14:28
Clay wrote:
Once you realize who Christ is, its easy to understand who Mary is.
Why did Christ bring His Mother into Heaven without suffering death?
Christ realized who he is and he told everyone so they would also know. If you ignore the words of Christ himself and believe the pope instead, you are believing man rather than God.
Again, Jesus Christ said, "The Father is greater than I am." John 14:28
Clay wrote:
Why did God (Christ) make His Mother without the blemish of sin?
Why did the pope say Mary was without sin? Christ never did. Not once.
Clay wrote:
Because He could. If anyone of us had the ability to make our Mother that way, we would have. But we couldn't. Jesus could and He did.
Jesus did not make his mother without sin.
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23
Clay, there has to be a standard to follow. It doesn't need to be written in stone, like the 10 commandments (which the church tried to rewrite) but there has to be a record of what Jesus said. The church has tried to rewrite what Jesus said, too.
The church has tried to add to the Word of God to suit itself. You can't do that.
The reason is because you get an entirely different belief system that what Christ taught. You can't do that. You have to listen to God, rather than men. You don't get to make up stuff as you go along. It isn't Christian that way. You are not following Christ, that way. You are following the pope and he is not qualified to change the Word of God.
Don't you understand? only God is qualified to change his word.

Longlac, Canada

#415174 Jan 13, 2013
Look at this lady - Let us never forget!
The world hasn't just become's always been wicked.
The prize doesn't always go to the most deserving.
Irena Sendler
Died 12 May 2008 (aged 98)
Warsaw, Poland
During WWII, Irena, got permission to work in the Warsaw ghetto, as a plumbing/sewer specialist.
She had an 'ulterior motive'.
She KNEW what the Nazi's plans were for the Jews (being German).
Irena smuggled infants out in the bottom of the tool box she carried and she carried in the back of her truck a burlap sack,(for larger kids).
She also had a dog in the back that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in and out of the ghetto.
The soldiers of course wanted nothing to do with the dog and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.
During her time of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500 kids/infants.
She was caught, and the Nazi's broke both her legs, arms and beat her severely.
Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids she smuggled out and kept them in a glass jar, buried under a tree in her back yard.
After the war, she tried to locate any parents that may have survived it and reunited the family.
Most had been gassed. Those kids she helped got placed into foster family homes or adopted.
Last year Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize.
She was not selected.
President Obama won one year before becoming President for his work as a community organizer for ACORN
Al Gore won also --- for a slide show on Global Warming.
I'm doing my small part by forwarding this message.
I hope you'll consider doing the same...
It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended.
This is being posted as a memorial chain, in memory of the six million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated by the Nazis.
Now, more than ever, with Iran, and others, claiming the HOLOCAUST to be 'a myth'. It's imperative to make sure the world never forgets, because there are others who would like to do it again, and this time, it may be your religious, ethnic, sexual preference or 'whatever' group.

United States

#415176 Jan 13, 2013
Don't you understand? only God is qualified to change his word.
Only God is qualified to execute evildoers, but somehow men have decided they are doing God's job for him when they execute 'heretics'.

United States

#415177 Jan 13, 2013
Is the pope qualified to do God's job, Clay?

Scott City, MO

#415178 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Every time I take the time and answer your questions, you just ignore it. Your mind is made up no matter what evidence is presented before you. That is the only way your religion functions.(trust me I know) The people need to submit to complete ignorance to be a part of your congregation, and that's why I rejected that path.
You guys should be the ones required to answer questions.
Why does a beautiful statue of the Mother of Christ offend you? Why is God jealous of that statue?
If we had an actual photograph of Mary holding Jesus, would God be jealous of that too?
While your at it, answer this: Where does Jesus teach sola scripture? where do his apostles teach sola scripture?
It would be quicker and more honest to just say..."DUH, I don't no? And I am not able to think for myself."

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#415179 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Who knows what "sod pottage" means?
The King James states:
And Jacob **sod pottage**: and Esau came from the field, and he was **faint**:
goat stew, and weak.
just because you dont understand what is said, doesnt mean that others cant. didnt you ever take english lit in High school?
as for me, I dont understand any of the new translations. they make no sense at all.the KJV is the best transliteration of Koine greek and Hebrew, bar none.
any person on here can Google "sod Pottage" and see if THEY come up with my words of it being "goat stew".so how would I know that to be the case, the answer is obvious, I am intelligent.

first, he had many herds, both sheep and goats.

now he would probably not eat Mutton since they depended on that animal for their clothing, so that eliminates that animal , leaving goat.

so how could I determine that it was meat instead of just veggies, again, the answer is obvious(at least to me). he was faint or tired and weak(the heat in that area does drain a person), so to strengthen his body, he needed to put "MEAT" into his system.

all of that together, which probably took me 5 seconds or so(much longer to type it than to think i).

another example of the Kings english is the word "let". this word is only used today in the sport of tennis. and in the Bible it refers to the Holy Ghost holding back the devil.

and as far as me using newer translations.not in a million years. God proved this KJV back in 1982 when i first got Saved. He has never proved those newer books.

I woke up one morning bothered about Cathie, so I went to my moms and called her at the Hospital and she started crying and told me how rough a night her dad had.before I left home, God told me to take my Bible that I would need it. and when I walked into the ICU, I heard the noise that he was making and another patient told me it was this way all night.God told me to put one hand on him and teh otehr on my Bible and so I did and to Pray for him. when I began, teh spirit came out of that Bible into me and thru me, shortly, I ended my prayer with these words:Lord , I commend his soul into your hands".and then cathie and teh otehr nurses came in but they werent needed, God had touched him and saved his soul,too.

I dont need your new books, this One suits God just

and me!

Scott City, MO

#415180 Jan 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
All Marian doctrine is rooted in this fact: her Son is God made manifest. Jesus is God.
Once you realize who Christ is, its easy to understand who Mary is.
Why did Christ bring His Mother into Heaven without suffering death?
Why did God (Christ) make His Mother without the blemish of sin?
Because He could. If anyone of us had the ability to make our Mother that way, we would have. But we couldn't. Jesus could and He did.
That in no way explains the unbalanced devotion and exaltation of Mary.
You claim catholics do not worship Mary, but the problem is that you do not understand what the scriptures define as worship.

Longlac, Canada

#415181 Jan 13, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>LTM I am doing better. Its a slow recovery process but I am overjoyed that the fluid has not returned to my lungs and I have stayed out of the hopsital. I hope you are well.When you really have someone in your heart,the grief never really completely leaves. But it gets easier to cope with. Certainly Christ and His promise heals and comforts. Stay well. Luv ya.
Hi Herme good to hear from you, so the fluid is staying out of your lungs that is great I am so glad.
Hospitals are no place to be because we always want to be close to our loved ones.
You wife had to do so long distant driving to see you also.
Well I know my friend is with the Lord, you should have seen the people at the church giving testemony about this woman.
Its going to be a celebration when we all get to heaven Herme.
What a party we have to look forward to. love you too Herme. God Bless.

Scott City, MO

#415182 Jan 13, 2013
QUOTE who="Clay"<quoted text>
All Marian doctrine is rooted in this fact: her Son is God made manifest. Jesus is God.
"How does that in any way define "Marion doctrine"? It does not.
Once you realize who Christ is, its easy to understand who Mary is.
Why did Christ bring His Mother into Heaven without suffering death?
ANSWER: He did not. This is just a product of roman catholic fables. Nothing in all of scripture indictates any such thing.
Why did God (Christ) make His Mother without the blemish of sin?
Because He could. If anyone of us had the ability to make our Mother that way, we would have. But we couldn't. Jesus could and He did.
ANSWER: Again your belies are based on fables with no hint of scripurat evidence. In fact with no evidence from any where.
Your beliefs are quite simply fairy tales. And your devotion and worship of Mary detracts from the all suffciency of the SAVIOUR.

Longlac, Canada

#415183 Jan 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Matthew 28
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Acts 2
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Aviela are you telling me you can't find the connection between this 2 scriptures ??? Not to mention you said Holy Ghost wasn't in the bible. Come on your the bible expert remember .

Alright Why did Jesus say Baptize in the Name of The Father, In the Name of the Son, and In God the Holy Spirit.
and Peter said in the Name of Jesus Christ , did Peter teach something different the Jesus.
By the way the Pentcostal Church split because of these two scriptures.
I will be waiting for your answer.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#415184 Jan 13, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>And you have settled for being in the same par with the Muslims,Hindus,and every other religion that believes Jesus is a Prophet,a good man,a godly man,a cosmic man,a messenger sent by God(Allah,Krishna,and whoever else).You have settled for one man that started the JW movement from Britain first,Rutherford,and of course Russel as well,who your organization was once called ((Russelites).
He changed the Scriptures to suit his theory that Jesus is a lesser god,read it for yourself in JOHN chapter One. Aviela, you were once a RC?
When I see Jehovah Witnesses,I see an organization that follows after those two men who started and furthered the LIE,that God(Jehovah) is no different from the Allah of Islam.Jesus is a super hero or star for your group.
I have never met a Jehovah Witness who could explain the Virgin Birth,nor could even attempt to explain how Jesus is just a superhero with no father.
Aviela,it is one thing to believe that JESUS is Unique,but it is another to KNOW that He is the SON of G o d,Son of Jehovah,Son of Elohim,Son of the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob.He is the Son that is the only Begotten of the Father in glory(This day I have begotten Thee) as stated in the Psalms.
Why settle for a superhero when you can have the SON who is worshiped by the Angels,glorified by His own Father?
Why settle for being one with the Muslims,and all those who deny the Deity of the Christ,Who was,and IS and IS to Come?
Explain to us Aviela WHO and W H A T Jesus is,and don't forget the Virgin Birth,the becoming human and having flesh and bones? Don't forget John the Apostle's warning that if we do not believe Jesus came in the flesh we are anti[-Christ.What does that mean? I noticed that you never replied to my other posts to you.
Nor has she replied to mine.
Good post Pad.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#415185 Jan 13, 2013
Aviela wrote:
I want to answer all your questions and slander you make about my faith. But I can only take one question at a time and so por favor be patient with me...I only have 2 hands. Like I said before I'm not here to try and convert anyone but to clear Jehovah's name.
Clear His name?

No one is saying anything against The Almighty.

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller,
>>>>The mighty God,
>>>>The everlasting Father,
>>>>The Prince of Peace.

Who is our Father?

Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"--which means, "God with us."

Athens, OH

#415186 Jan 13, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
Clear His name?
No one is saying anything against The Almighty.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller,
>>>>The mighty God,
>>>>The everlasting Father,
>>>>The Prince of Peace.
Who is our Father?
Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"--which means, "God with us."
you will like this, may have to do 2 replys.
It is VERY strict. You would have more freedom going to jail.
Become a Jehovah's Witness and you can't...
Celebrate Mother's Day,Father's Day, Grandparent's Day
Birthdays Thanksgiving New Year's Eve or Day Christmas Halloween Easter Flag Day Independence Day (Fourth of July) Hanukkah St. Patrick's Day Valentine's Day
"Any" Holiday Sing any Holiday Songs Eat Turkey on Thanksgiving Create Holiday artwork in school
Join the Boy ScoutsJoin the Girl Scouts Buy Girl Scout Cookies Become a Cheerleader Attend class reunions (No "Worldly" association) Go to the school prom
Play School Sports (No competition allowed) Play
Professional Sports
Join any organization that has ties to Christianity
Shop at the Salvation Army Volunteer for the Salvation Army
Donate to Relief Organizations like the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Charities and more Shop at Church run thrift stores
Shop at Church Garage Sales Shop at any Store that has Christian ties Contribute to the Red Cross Attend a Church School
Join the YMCA Join the MilitaryBecome a Police Officer
Attend Alcoholics Anonymous Have any job with a gun
Strike against a Company Salute the Flag
Can't Stand at Public Events while others are Standing to salute the Flag Sing the National Anthem Go to War
Wear Clothing Associated with War; e.g. Combats or Army Tops Learn karate Vote (Conscience matter now to please Governments, you will be ostracized if you do)
Run for any Public Office Campaign for a Candidate
Contribute to the Presidential Campaign Fund on your tax return Can join union, but not participate in its affairs
Run for class president Join Sororities or Fraternities
Participate in holiday parties at school
Buy lottery tickets Gamble Play Bingo Can't buy a raffle ticket Date without supervision - young or old Watch R rated movies Cannot work on another Church if it's a regular customer Own a religious picture or statue Smoke cigarettes, pipes or a cigars Sell cigarettes, pipes or a cigars Accept Blood Donate Blood Store your own blood before an operation
Wear blue jeans or casual clothes to the Kingdom Hall
Wear pants to the Kingdom Hall if you are a female
Wear skirts or dresses that are above the knee at any time
Wear any type of long hair if you are a man
Wear a beard in some Kingdom Halls and areas (judged hard) Pierce ears if male, other body parts if female
Have any tattoos Say curse words Can't be hypnotized
Get divorced unless scriptural (adultery or fornication is committed by one partner) if you do divorce cannot remarry unless ex fornicates first Toast drinks (pagan origin)
Throw rice at a wedding (pagan origin) Say "Bless You" when someone sneezes Say "Good Luck!", "Wish me Luck", "I was Lucky" or "You were Lucky"
Tell ghost stories Practice Yoga Own a Smurf Eat Lucky Charms Cereal (References to Magical)
Throw a penny into a wishing well Read Horoscopes Promote anything Superstitious
Have wind charms because they represent a pagan symbol for scaring away demons

Longlac, Canada

#415187 Jan 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I dont know what you would consider an authority but here goes.
12:14 But the woman was given the two wings of a giant eagle so that she could fly out into the {wilderness}, to the place God prepared for her, where she is taken care of – away from the presence of the serpent – for a time, times, and half a time.
this word wilderness is a place that this woman is going to flee to(future}. now go back and read about Jesus and how the Spirit drove Him into the wilderness. this wilderness is NOT EGYPT, where joseph and mary had to flee is beleived to be east of the river jordan, wher the Bible says that john Preached.Matthew 3:1.
so there is ONE example that it doesnt mean mary.
time, times, and half a time.
theses words are meaning years.
one year; times =two years; half a time=6 months total 3 and 1/2 years.
and this certainly is not the time that mary and joseph were in egypt, since the Bible doesnt give this info.
but this does correspond to the time that in the tribulation that Israel will be haunted by the devil and all of the nations of the world.
guess I aint an authority according to you, but I aint no dummy and I can add and
{If I was you, I wouldn't be reading to much into Revelation. Much of it isn't clear to us.}
sorry, but it may be unclear to you and other catholics, but for me, i have never had any problem understanding it.
guess that you never read my earlier post that when I began to pray, the spirit of the Lord fell on me and I was able to understand and teach His Word. that happens and that is in agreement with what the bible says about the Holy Ghost helping our memory and givng us a perfect understanding.
and you are incorrect when you say that the "whore of baylon" came and went.Nero (15 December 37 – 9 June 68) was Roman Emperor from 54 to 68,while Most modern scholars believe teh book of revelation was written around 95 AD, with some believing it dates from around 70 AD.either 70 Ad or 95 Ad are both after nero burning rome, so you are completely WRONG.
look at the area. it is arid to semi arid, which means that there is a dearth of potable water(still true to day and a very big problem today) so they would drink wine in place of water.
and people were poor back then so bread was a staple of their diet.
use some common sense and figure it out for yourself.
Yes Preston I did read this and agree with you.
Catholic's have made the bible all about them, but don't understand it or believe it is all about Jesus Christ.
How they could possibly make that scritpure about Mary I will never know. We can only hope the Holy Spirit will open their heart to understand what He is saying and teaching the church of Christ,
which isn't the catholic church.

I want to get back to you about Josephs 2 sons. When Jacob gave them His Blessing and past over his own sons, He said He was going to make a great nation out of one, USA. And one of many nations which became the British Commonwealth, which is many nation.
Is this where the lost tribes of Israel were scattered.
I think I am a little off here just want to clear it up in my mind.
Preston I think you are very gifted, I really do I am totally in agreement with your teachings.

Athens, OH

#415188 Jan 13, 2013
Watch TV shows, "Sabrina, the Teenage Witch", "Touched by an Angel", or "Bewitched"
Say "It was fate" or mention anything to do with "fate" Engage in any risky acts such as: Sky Diving, Bungie Jumping & Hang Gliding
Have Jesus as your Mediator and Savior Can't partake in the Memorial of Jesus' death, by eating the unleavened bread or drinking the wine; only allowed if you are from the elite group of the 144,000
A woman can't hold a position of responsibility in the congregation

Wear or own a Cross Attend another Church (Spiritual Fornication) Associate on a regular basis with nonbelievers Associate with ex-members Associate with disfellowshipped ones Talk with disfellowshipped ones
Sue another Jehovah's Witness Marry a nonbeliever (If you do, you are judged hard by the congregation)
Marry in another Church or attend a wedding in another Church Have a funeral in another Church or attend a funeral in another Church
Pray, including holding your head down, when a nonbeliever prays Study other religious articles not from the Society
Read negative information about the Society Question the Watchtower Society on anything
Exercise your on conscience if it goes against the religion Question the Society or the Organization Have Christian freedom

If you are a woman you can't pray aloud in the presence of men, without a covering on your head
If you are sick and need alternative medical help you can't get illegal medicines from another country

Become a Jehovah's Witness and you shouldn't....
.... if you do you will be looked down upon
Discuss politics Surf too much on the Internet Attend social functions organized by your place of work
Associate with worldly neighbors Attend College (The Society has lightened up on this somewhat, but if you attend you are not putting Kingdom interests first, and will be judged.)
Play Chess Go to Nightclubs Own a Gun Read philosophy, sociology, psychology; these are discouraged as non spiritual food
JWs are discouraged from seeking psychological help from psychiatrists, psycho-therapists, and psychologists because they give "worldly" advice according to the WTBTS.

Become a Jehovah's Witness and you have to....

Must be baptized into the organizationAttend several regular meetings each week Go out in field service regularly to recruit new members Report your field service activity to the congregation each month
Attend regular scheduled conventions Give talks at the congregation (whether young or old, male or female)
Read and fully understand their teachings Prepare for each meeting
Participate in the meetings

Study with family
Use Theocratic Warfare (War Strategy)- To lie or to hide the truth to a non-JW for protection of the Organization
Fully accept the Watchtower's authority and rules (no exceptions)
Dress according to their rules at the Kingdom Halls, Service and conventions (no exceptions)

Women and small girls must wear dresses
Men must wear dress pants with dress shirts and ties

Associate only with fellow members
Report on fellow members including your family, if they are caught doing something against Society's rules
You have to sing at the meetings (even if you have a bad voice)- or you are looked down upon
Women must be in full submission to their husbands

Edit- if you need a blood transfusion there is no alternative. That's why courts now step in when JW are willing to let their babies die from not being given blood. JWs are the only ones that read that part in the bible to mean no blood transfusions. A bit strange isn't it?
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