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Actually, you won't admit it, but she just proved you wrong by using scripture.
You and 4gvn are on the same team with Guest. But Guest doesn't agree with you...she agrees with Aviela.
Good news though....I just started my own religion and declared myself an authority on the Bible. Now I can prove all you wrong by showing Jesus Christ started a Church, not a book. The Bible arose within the Church and became 'a Bible' 70 yrs after Constantine died.
distorting historical fact is allot more difficult than distorting verse chapter verse of the Bible.
Clay, start fresh with honesty.
You cannot "prove all" of anyone wrong, no more than they can "prove" you wrong.
That's why they call it "faith." There is no proof, period,,and all attempts to bring forth actual real-world physical proof have been comical cheap tricks -- "not church teaching," "believe if you want," blah, blah.
Honesty is the best policy form churches as well as people.