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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 650018 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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MICHAEL

Canada

#414983 Jan 12, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>What makes no sense to me Michael,is God the Father sending his Son to live,suffer,crucified,died,and resurrected for what? If that does not come clear as to why God would send Jesus to do this,than all religion makes no sense anyway. Common sense is not always what we think,it is only common sense, that Jesus should be recognized in some way IF in fact He lived,suffered,crucifed,died,w as buried and rose again to the Glroy of His Father in Heaven.Other wise all the common sense in the world does not mean a hill of beans in light of His being what the Scriptures say,and for this many centuries we humans through faith and living proof of our lives continue to witness of His great glory.
You will never be able to get that story of the Living God,and His dear Son out of the mind of consciousness of this world,it is here to stay,and it will not die.Thousands,literally millions have died to venerate with their lives the Lord Jesus,and His claims of being the Only begotten of the Father.
Martyrs are even as we type here.In many countries people are facing torture and death for believing in Jesus,reading His Word,and teaching their children about the Love of the Father.Their blood spilt,is either in vain or it is not? I cannot deny Him,and common sense tells me to place my hope and trust in Him who gave Himself for me.It is idiocy for me to reject Him,for what? Nothing! Opinions? Atheistic rhetoric that leads to nowhere? I have peace of mind,you claim you do,but yet you are on here every day to try and prove to me apparently I lack common sense and do not have peace of mind believing in Him who gave all for me,but someday I will be with Him and see Him as He really is. I have much to look forward to.
Jews do not believe in the trinity.

..If Mary was a Jew, and practiced her faith, how could Mary remain a Jew, if Jesus was the son of God, and Jews such as Mary do not believe in sons of God?

That would make Mary a heretic of her own faith. That would also disqualify Mary as belonging to one of the jewish tribes, again Jews do not believe in sons of God.

....makes no common sense.



makes no sense.....

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#414984 Jan 12, 2013
LTM, some very interesting stuff. Also, many people who think they know the bible don't even know that neither Matthew, Mark, Luke nor John did not write the books attributed to them.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#414985 Jan 12, 2013
Oh, and LTM, your posts puts into perspective my objection to any Mary devotions. ONE Mediator, bible is clear on that. I do NOT bow down to her statues.
MICHAEL

Canada

#414986 Jan 12, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, it's not what the Bible says.
"Catholics worship statues!" People still make this ridiculous claim. Because Catholics have statues in their churches, goes the accusation, they are violating God’s commandment: "You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow down to them or serve them" (Ex. 20:4–5); "Alas, this people have sinned a great sin; they have made for themselves gods of gold" (Ex. 32:31).
It is right to warn people against the sin of idolatry when they are committing it. But calling Catholics idolaters because they have images of Christ and the saints is based on misunderstanding or ignorance of what the Bible says about the purpose and uses (both good and bad) of statues.
Anti-Catholic writer Loraine Boettner, in his book Roman Catholicism, makes the blanket statement, "God has forbidden the use of images in worship" (281). Yet if people were to "search the scriptures" (cf. John 5:39), they would find the opposite is true. God forbade the worship of statues, but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts!
Continue reading at http://www.catholic.com/tracts/do-catholics-w...
In reality, does Jesus and Mary look like the images on the statues you pray in front of? If no is your answer, why have images at all?

If someone made a statue of a man, and told you this was your father would you believe it?

Why engrain images in your mind of statues of Jesus/Mary and the saints if you know in your heart and reality (I hope) that these characters would look nothing at all of what they WOULD REALLY LOOK LIKE if they ever did exist?

The church is playing with your mind, another way of them controlling you. ITs too bad you haven't got to the level yet to say, "I am in control of my being"
LTM

Longlac, Canada

#414987 Jan 12, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, it's not what the Bible says.
"Catholics worship statues!" People still make this ridiculous claim. Because Catholics have statues in their churches, goes the accusation, they are violating God’s commandment: "You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow down to them or serve them" (Ex. 20:4–5); "Alas, this people have sinned a great sin; they have made for themselves gods of gold" (Ex. 32:31).
It is right to warn people against the sin of idolatry when they are committing it. But calling Catholics idolaters because they have images of Christ and the saints is based on misunderstanding or ignorance of what the Bible says about the purpose and uses (both good and bad) of statues.
Anti-Catholic writer Loraine Boettner, in his book Roman Catholicism, makes the blanket statement, "God has forbidden the use of images in worship" (281). Yet if people were to "search the scriptures" (cf. John 5:39), they would find the opposite is true. God forbade the worship of statues, but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts!
Continue reading at http://www.catholic.com/tracts/do-catholics-w...
You have an image you say is Christ, but do you know what Jesus looks like. You pray to Mary or an idol of her, we are to pray to God alone in the name of Jesus .
Catholic's have exalted her to a place that belongs to Christ alone.
Every statue I have seen a large form Maryand a helpless baby in her arms, making Jesus small.(Jesus is God; He is not an infant )
You don't know what Marty looks like nor what baby Jesus looks like, they are false images you are Praying to.(FALSE gods OR SHOULD I SAY goddess)
the Catholic church made idols graven images of that is suppose to represent Jesus and Mary and display them in their church and people pray and knee to them that is worshipping idols.
Which makes this comment an out and out lie Regina. You are calling Jesus a liar .

{but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts!}

fools rush in where wise men fear to go.
Fun Facts

Midland, MI

#414988 Jan 12, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Correct me if I'm wrong why are there hail Mary prayers? No one should be praying to Mary. I'm sure you've also seen candles with Mary's face on it. How do you think God feels about worshiping his creations instead of the creator?
Honor not worship...

A recognition
You may have overlooked...

http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/HONOMARY....

Questions?
http://avemariaradio.net/catholic-online-radi...
LTM

Longlac, Canada

#414989 Jan 12, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
Oh, and LTM, your posts puts into perspective my objection to any Mary devotions. ONE Mediator, bible is clear on that. I do NOT bow down to her statues.
Sharlayne, I am glad you read that, it is long and some won't take the time I am glad you did.
Mary is a dear sister in the Lord and I love her; but she would not want all the attention she knows belongs to Jesus.
I plan on having a long conversation with her when I get to Heaven, The excitement that she was carrying the Christ child in her womb must have such a wonderful joy to her.
I want to hear all she has to say and experienced for the nine months. LOL She was blessed indeed.
ReginaM

Lakehurst, NJ

#414990 Jan 12, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
You have an image you say is Christ, but do you know what Jesus looks like. You pray to Mary or an idol of her, we are to pray to God alone in the name of Jesus .
Catholic's have exalted her to a place that belongs to Christ alone.
Every statue I have seen a large form Maryand a helpless baby in her arms, making Jesus small.(Jesus is God; He is not an infant )
You don't know what Marty looks like nor what baby Jesus looks like, they are false images you are Praying to.(FALSE gods OR SHOULD I SAY goddess)
the Catholic church made idols graven images of that is suppose to represent Jesus and Mary and display them in their church and people pray and knee to them that is worshipping idols.
Which makes this comment an out and out lie Regina. You are calling Jesus a liar .
{but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts!}
fools rush in where wise men fear to go.
I know you rushed in, you always do. We should call you "Speedy" from now on.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#414991 Jan 12, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
You have an image you say is Christ, but do you know what Jesus looks like. You pray to Mary or an idol of her, we are to pray to God alone in the name of Jesus .
Catholic's have exalted her to a place that belongs to Christ alone.
Every statue I have seen a large form Maryand a helpless baby in her arms, making Jesus small.(Jesus is God; He is not an infant )
You don't know what Marty looks like nor what baby Jesus looks like, they are false images you are Praying to.(FALSE gods OR SHOULD I SAY goddess)
the Catholic church made idols graven images of that is suppose to represent Jesus and Mary and display them in their church and people pray and knee to them that is worshipping idols.
Which makes this comment an out and out lie Regina. You are calling Jesus a liar .
{but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts!}
fools rush in where wise men fear to go.
Maybe you guys should clarify what bothers you. I find it hard to believe, LTM, as a Christian, you'd actually be offended by a statue of the Mother of Christ. That's bizarre on any level.

You're saying its because the statue doesn't resemble Our Lord's Mother?

As for kneeling and praying in front of the statue, I think you should re-read the ten commandments again. This time act like you're reading it for the first time. Clear the ideology from your mind.
Its clear what God was talking about.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#414992 Jan 12, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
You have an image you say is Christ, but do you know what Jesus looks like. You pray to Mary or an idol of her, we are to pray to God alone in the name of Jesus .
Catholic's have exalted her to a place that belongs to Christ alone.
Every statue I have seen a large form Maryand a helpless baby in her arms, making Jesus small.(Jesus is God; He is not an infant )
You don't know what Marty looks like nor what baby Jesus looks like, they are false images you are Praying to.(FALSE gods OR SHOULD I SAY goddess)
the Catholic church made idols graven images of that is suppose to represent Jesus and Mary and display them in their church and people pray and knee to them that is worshipping idols.
Which makes this comment an out and out lie Regina. You are calling Jesus a liar .
{but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts!}
fools rush in where wise men fear to go.
LTM, all Catholics will insist that Mary was physically beautiful. Christ wasn't, according to the bible (He wasn't comely to anyone except to us who loved Him.) I once suggested it was possible Mary may have had a big nose or unattractive teeth, and you should have seen the stir THAT caused here :)

But NO, they don't "worship" Mary, LOL.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#414993 Jan 12, 2013
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Why then is all of the emphasis on Mary? Why do you not have statues of Jesus in every yard? Think Clay. Driving through Catholic neighborhoods one would rightly assume that the emphasis is on Mary. That Mary is the most important person. That Mary is the objest of worship and devotion. WHY is this the message being portrayed? Why is there an abnormal amount of sinful problems within the Catholic Church. Why was there a sex abuse cover-up? If you can't trust the church with the truth about the sex abuse, why would you believe that you could trust them with other matters? Why are catholic priests dieing of aids at a rate of 4 times higher than the average public.(And they take VOWS of celibacy.)
Wow. Lots of questions you have.

Maybe you could answer mine:

Why does 4gvn think God is jealous of a depiction of Mary holding Jesus?

Does 4gvn get offended by this too?

You say you are a Christian - which would be a follower of the Christ. Yet, His Mother really really bugs you. In fact, you'll go as far to say that she wasn't a virgin til her death.
I say, if she was, like all of the first 1,800 yrs of Christianity understood, then you are guilty of spreading rumors about the Blessed Mother. I would think Jesus would like to have a word with you about this someday...
ReginaM

Lakehurst, NJ

#414994 Jan 12, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Sharlayne, I am glad you read that, it is long and some won't take the time I am glad you did.
Mary is a dear sister in the Lord and I love her; but she would not want all the attention she knows belongs to Jesus.
I plan on having a long conversation with her when I get to Heaven, The excitement that she was carrying the Christ child in her womb must have such a wonderful joy to her.
I want to hear all she has to say and experienced for the nine months. LOL She was blessed indeed.
43 “But who am I, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?"

Since: Nov 08

usa

#414995 Jan 12, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
When you go to the hospital next time for your treatment, remember to thank the Roman Catholic Church for the whole hospital concept.
The Church created the idea of a building constructed for the sole purpose of caring for the sick and dying.
Prior to this, people like you Jethro, were brought out to the wilderness and left to die, because people were so terrified about contacting whatever illness was affecting their loved ones.
It was hard to feel that way once they observed Catholic Priest and nuns caring for cancer victims until their last breath.
.the earliest hospitals on record was founded in Ireland, 300 B. C., by Princess Macha.(pagan hospital),, The Romans in their treatment of the sick adopted many Greek usages.Æsculapius had a temple on the island in the Tiber (291 B. C.) Catholic hospitals were segregated with separate wards for black patients.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#414996 Jan 12, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
<quoted text>
LTM, all Catholics will insist that Mary was physically beautiful. Christ wasn't, according to the bible (He wasn't comely to anyone except to us who loved Him.) I once suggested it was possible Mary may have had a big nose or unattractive teeth, and you should have seen the stir THAT caused here :)
But NO, they don't "worship" Mary, LOL.
Actually Sherlayne, we have seen all sorts of mud being slung at Mary by people who claim to follow her Son.
So, if you're suggesting she was ugly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit. We have heard it all! One person even called her a slut.

We Catholics will stand up and defend Our Lords Mother. We'll even go to our deaths for it. The rest of ya will giggle at the ridicule of her.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#414997 Jan 12, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
Oh, and LTM, your posts puts into perspective my objection to any Mary devotions. ONE Mediator, bible is clear on that. I do NOT bow down to her statues.
Those nasty icons mean I SHOULD bow down to her statues? LOL

NO!

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#414998 Jan 12, 2013
Look everybody! Certain (Catholics, I'm sure) do NOT believe God said there's only ONE Mediator - they know better!
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#414999 Jan 12, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> All those answer are in the Bible Micheal. Don't take anything the pope says serious. You are a man of thinking skills. One day you will get your answers it will all make sense. Keep asking and you shall receive. Don't stop asking questions keep up the good work.
Aviela, you'd be surprised at how the Papacy actually works. Please read into it a little more.

My JW sister-in-law agrees. Her father has assumed more authority on the Bible and his religion then all the Popes have for Christianity combined.

Really, thats the irony. Take any elder, pastor or minister....look at the authority they claim when teaching the faith. These people have literally reversed what the Apostles taught! I guarantee you, no Pope has done anything that bold before. But you guys have!
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#415000 Jan 12, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
Look everybody! Certain (Catholics, I'm sure) do NOT believe God said there's only ONE Mediator - they know better!
What Catholics would say that?

Are you sure you're not just making stuff up?
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#415001 Jan 12, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>.the earliest hospitals on record was founded in Ireland, 300 B. C., by Princess Macha.(pagan hospital),, The Romans in their treatment of the sick adopted many Greek usages.Æsculapius had a temple on the island in the Tiber (291 B. C.) Catholic hospitals were segregated with separate wards for black patients.
You're confusing places for the wealthy to go and die, as hospitals.

Royalty always had a nice place for them to die.

Are you wealthy Jethro?

If not, your family would have dumped you in the wilderness to die.

The Roman Catholic Church created hospitals for the poor, sick and dying. Its what the world has to this day because the Church taught them the value of EVERY human life.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#415002 Jan 12, 2013
Clay wrote:
Wow. You're such a bigot, you apply anti Catholic remarks when someone isn't even talking about them . Aviela was speaking to Preston being 'nasty'.
as i stated it does seem to be atradition among you catholics that are on here,someone says something about the church you don't like you go off on a tirade of nasty vile responses,and i was pointing that fact out,and yes i said it's must be part of catholic tradition,since 99% of you are like that on here.

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