Dan, I can see you are replying with good intentions. But like so many, you confuse faith with fact. You have no proof or solid evidence -- which is why it's called faith.<quoted text>
No one claims that people in the Church are perfect, but the Church cannot teach error. They don't claim it-Christ established the Church to teach, thus it cannot teach error.
Please cite the membership totals YOU think correct, them "lying" about their deeds(?) and cite any context for your diplomatic immunity fixation.
Hurry up, before NASL calls me a blasphemer and a liar again.
Never has anyone here claimed that people in the RCC should be perfect. That statement is called "deflection."
The ONLY entity that claims any sort of "perfection" is the RCC.
Back to your original analogy....
1... If Ford claimed to make perfect cars, don't you think we should judge them by a higher standard than any other car company?
2... If Ford claimed to make perfect cars, but their cars broke down at the same rate as other car companies, wouldn't you be skeptical of their claim?
If Ford claimed to make perfect cars and offered as "proof" a statement from their own Corporate Mission Statement, would you accept that as proof?
Of course not.
The same holds true for the RCC.
Shouldn't we hold the RCC to a higher standard?
After 1600 years, shouldn't there be some real evidence that the RCC is morally special and unique in many ways?
After 1600 years, shouldn't it be so evident that by now, the Church would be embraced by a majority of mankind?
If Jesus died on the Cross to save mankind, after 1600 years, do you really think that only %5-10% of humanity is all Jesus had in mind?
With "perfect teachings" on morals, shouldn't Catholic-majority societies have much lower crime rates, and better systems of justice? Look at the Americas. What do you see?
In the past 500 years, has the RCC been a leader or a follower with respect to human rights such as equal justice and trial before peers?
Is the Bill of Rights somehow immoral? If not, why would the RCC have been against for so long?
Please tell us -- where's the beef?