Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658506 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#413569 Jan 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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The REAL Church is invisible. It is made up of those truly Born Again individuals who have accepted Jesus' sacrifice for them. He said that without being born again, one cannot 'see' the Kingdom of God. One cannot 'join' it by shaking a hand, or being received into a denominational group.
The Lord knows His own, and there are some in many different groups. That is what makes it invisible. No one denominational 'church' can lay claim to His church.
He doesn't make it hard. He paid our debt for us, and allows us to choose to answer His call.
Interesting idea that you say about the Church that Jesus instituted and initiated in the bible-- however-- it is "nothing more" than your own (personal opinion) which does not (in any way, shape or form) coincide or parallel with True Apostolic Church History that has been recorded for over 2000 years...... Throughout the centuries, Apologist historian authors and writers "both Catholic and Protestant" do not agree" with your "made up conclusions". If you would take time to "study" the truth of true church history, you would not be making "ridiculous statements" about an "invisible church" which does not exist!!!!
MICHAEL

Canada

#413571 Jan 6, 2013
Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the argument he is making is that legislation against an offense proves knowledge that the offense is taking place.
Our directive is that we are to make IMMEDIATE report of any allegation of sexual abuse of a minor to DHS. I have never seen a directive as to what to do if someone tells me in the contexts of the confessional. I would push such a person to make the report themselves.
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If someone told me that Fr. Smith had commited sexual abuse (and they are telling ME this outside of the confessional), my response would be to call DHS, and tell them Suzy had made an accusation against Fr. Smith. "When?" Why, she just told me. "No,*when* does she say this occurred?" I forget. You have your job. Go ASK the peson who made the accusation.
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Rob
edited for space.

......And what has the end result been?

Broken families, shattered lives, suicides, abandonment, on 5 continents, almost $3 BILLION paid out in restitution, not because the church did it on its own, only because they were sued over and over. Insurance companies and the catholics themselves who sit in the pews who caused none of this, have paid ALL the freight. There is a growing mistrust of the church leaders worldwide. GEE! I wonder why?

I will never again, belong to any organization that has policies in place that protect criminals and abandon victims, or go phone the police yourself. Why would any all loving God endorse such policies?

makes no common sense.

The 47,000 nuns in america under investigation by the vatican have said themselves, "we are being investigated by the bishops, and we molested no one, bishops covered up felony crimes and no investigations of them".

The newly formed priest associations I am sure have an agenda that also strongly disagrees how mother church has handled this whole mess.


The only reason that some policies changed is because the number of cases became so over whelming that the church had no other option than to finally admit guilt.

Rob, I just hope one day, the shoe isn't on the other foot when you might be screaming for help, and the people coming along say, go phone the police yourself.

MICHAEL

Canada

#413572 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
"Largest child abuse over-up in the world??? This is just more of your Protestant myths and legends that you continue to "dream up"!! You, Free Mind, been reading, way too many anti-catholic fictitious (exaggerated reports) that have absolutely "no basis" of truth or fact! It is (however) a "proven fact" that your hypocritical bible only Protestant ministers equal or exceeds the Catholic Church in sexual abuse crimes committed against young people.
HOJO says......"Largest child abuse over-up in the world???

MICHAEL says.......$3 BILLION in lawsuits says so.

BUSTED!!
MICHAEL

Canada

#413573 Jan 6, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the title of this thread?
No one is claiming such moral superiority except the RCC.
The simple ... logical ... reasonable ... FACT is that it is highly unlikely that any God would allow his so-called "morals" teacher to bring humanity the LARGEST child sex-abuse COVER-UP in world HISTORY.
That is very, very unlikely and you know it.
Whats wrong with being the first church? The mother church maybe? But perfect teachings on morals?
KARMA works.......

I am sure if a young child threw a rock through a church window, watch how fast the clergy jump to action then, DIALING 9-1-1.

When a child is molested and tells a priest, his suggestion is call 9-1-1 himself..........and GOOD LUCK!!!!
MICHAEL

Canada

#413574 Jan 6, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
Off topic?
<3
Hi! Juicylu! welcome aboard.

Tell us what you are here for? We are good listeners.
MICHAEL

Canada

#413575 Jan 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I knew and I had a good reason for knowing that you and your companion didnt do it, and that can remain between us.
no family that goes and takes into their home, children without a home would do that.
Whats this a turnaround?

For months you berated confrinting and his elderly wife who also have grand children, over and over with your bully tactics calling him MR FRAUD and his lovely wife a LIAR.

HIPOCRIT!



MICHAEL

Canada

#413576 Jan 6, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
... They promise to post links, but almost never do.
... They call you names for posting links.
... All because the title of this board is absurd.
Thank you for expanding factual knowledge here.
Truth, Justice, America
..Its very upsetting. An upstanding catholic such as Anthony promising to post us over 100 links of factual information and he doesn't come through. It is so disheartening.

I should have known. He is not the Anthony we thought he was.

BUSTED.....again!(lol)
MICHAEL

Canada

#413577 Jan 6, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>"It is not what goes into the body that defiles it,but what comes out(of the heart as it were)."
When people are careful about anything,they are ahead of the game.But wreckless behavior,accompanied with strong drink can be fatal.We are better off trying to discourage people from social drinking especially when they FLY PLANES,which is a common problem amongst pilots these days.
It is all about the attitude toward the alcoholic beverages to begin with.Does one know what they are dealing with?
Although we may call alcoholism a D I S E A S E,it still is that which warrants a strong focus on the part of all to not let the DRINK rule over the senses.
Most people I have met over the years that are hard drinkers or alcoholics their social life is the main reason they drink.

Going to sports bars 4-5 nights a week watching football and playing darts, drinking picture after picture of beer with their buds, eventually takes its toll.

MICHAEL

Canada

#413578 Jan 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>you DO realize that I have lost a lot of weight in the last year and my shoulders are not that broad anymore, so I dont know if I can bear that much responsibility from this "mess" in DC.
I am going to "pass the buck" and blame Miguel who lives in Canada.
atemcowboy.......says.

....I am going to "pass the buck" and blame Miguel who lives in Canada.

Miguel says........GIDDYUPP! atemcowboy!!

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#413579 Jan 6, 2013
"You know for a fact there's a God, you've been in His presence, He's spoken to you personally and you claim to be an atheist."

"I just like to f*ck with the Clergy."

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#413580 Jan 6, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>Hi! Juicylu! welcome aboard.

Tell us what you are here for? We are good listeners.
I thought it might be a Christian thread, seems to be off topic...
Peace <3
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413581 Jan 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
"Largest child abuse over-up in the world??? This is just more of your Protestant myths and legends that you continue to "dream up"!! You, Free Mind, been reading, way too many anti-catholic fictitious (exaggerated reports) that have absolutely "no basis" of truth or fact! It is (however) a "proven fact" that your hypocritical bible only Protestant ministers equal or exceeds the Catholic Church in sexual abuse crimes committed against young people.
You say the RCC's recent scandal and cover-up is NOT the LARGEST child sex-abuse COVER-UP in world HISTORY.

OK, I'll bite. What is?

Remember, in order to compete with the RCC, the cover-up must be...

-- a cover-up spanning several decades.

-- a cover-up on all 5 inhabited continents on earth

-- it must involve the abuse of tens of thousands of children

-- it must involve abuse at orphanages and schools for deaf children on at least 3 or more continents, and...

-- the abuser will probably have to have diplomatic immunity. Otherwise, they would probably be too afraid they'd be caught. They must have no sense of accountability.

Oh, btw -- it is very unlikely that any self-respecting God would have appointed and guided anything like this.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413582 Jan 6, 2013
COLD, HARD RATIONAL FACTS 101......

Per this board, the RCC claims moral superiority.

However....

The simple ... logical ... rational ... FACT is that it is highly unlikely that any God would allow his so-called "morals" teacher to bring humanity the LARGEST child sex-abuse COVER-UP in world HISTORY.

That is very, very unlikely.

The simple ... logical ... rational ... FACT is that it is highly unlikely that Jesus would want His church to own a bank, yet alone one of the most scandal-ridden banks in Europe -- a bank that almost certainly laundered money for the mafia.

That is very, very unlikely.

The simple ... logical ... reasonable ... FACT is that it is highly unlikely that Jesus would have guided a church to take a stand against democracy and concepts such as human rights.

That is very, very unlikely.

The simple ... logical ... rational ... FACT is that it is highly unlikely that Jesus would have guided his church to recognize and give support to the slave States during the American Civil War.

That is very, very unlikely.

Whats wrong with being the first church? The mother church maybe? But perfect teachings on morals?

The simple ... logical ... rational ... FACT is that is very, very unlikely.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413583 Jan 6, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
..Its very upsetting. An upstanding catholic such as Anthony promising to post us over 100 links of factual information and he doesn't come through. It is so disheartening.
I should have known. He is not the Anthony we thought he was.
BUSTED.....again!(lol)
100 links!

I'd be happy with 5 links. But a bog ZERO and we both know why.

It seems that for some Catholics, facts are like water to the Wicked Witch of the West. Facts melt their reality away.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#413584 Jan 6, 2013
Comparing Catholic-dominated societies with Protestant/deist societies......

The Catholic societies are less literate, poorer, and have more crime.

Any questions about the reality of that "one true" baloney?

“Vote”

Since: May 12

Houston

#413585 Jan 6, 2013
philosopher from Holland wrote:
It was the German philosopher F. Nietzsche who concluded that God is dead, we all killed him. We only see His shadow.
If you want to understand what he meant with this, you have to read his books.
Clearly believing does not help mankind because still a lot of people are killed for their believe, or because their believe is different or they themself are disrespectful to others who believe something else or to people who do not believe at all or they..
So maybe we are in need of a new Man, like Nietzsche told us. We ourself are not good enough.
Do not blame it on somebody else.
<quoted text>
You know what would be great? You going back to Holland.

“Vote”

Since: May 12

Houston

#413586 Jan 6, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought it might be a Christian thread, seems to be off topic...
Peace <3
You are the topic police? Does it pay well?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#413587 Jan 6, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
Comparing Catholic-dominated societies with Protestant/deist societies......

The Catholic societies are less literate, poorer, and have more crime.

Any questions about the reality of that "one true" baloney?
"Any moron with a match can light a fire. Raining down sulphur is an endurance trial."

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#413588 Jan 6, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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Whats this a turnaround?
For months you berated confrinting and his elderly wife who also have grand children, over and over with your bully tactics calling him MR FRAUD and his lovely wife a LIAR.
HIPOCRIT!
if they wish to tell you why I know it wasnt them, it is up to them, but I do know it wasnt them, and we dont have to enlighten you on everything that goes on on this forum.

and I think that my statement about them raising children not their own should be sufficient for.

but as far as the FACT that they wouldnt have done it,and i know it, I am not going to tell you

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#413589 Jan 6, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text>You are the topic police? Does it pay well?
"What are you going to do? Hit me with a fish?"

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