Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Ok, so you agree Jesus is the Lamb of God. Sacrificed at Calvary.
Was it ok for the Jews at passover to make a symbol of a Lamb? Was it ok for them to substitute a chicken for those who didn't like Lamb? Was it sufficient to put another animals blood or paint outside instead of Lamb?
If Christ is the Lamb of God, then its easy to see the importance of partaking in this meal. To eat it?
But how on Earth are we supposed to eat Jesus?
Well, the Apostles were clear on how this can be done.
Paul: "for I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night he was betrayed took bread, given thanks, broke it and said "this is my body which is for you. Do THIS in remembrance of me".. in a similar way, he took the chalice, after supper saying "this chalice is the new covenant in my blood, do THIS as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me"
For as often as you eat this bread drink this chalice, you proclaim the Lords death until he comes.
Listen carefully at what Paul says next, Pad.
'whoever, therefore, eats the bread and drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, will be guilty of profaning THE BODY AND BLOOD OF OUR LORD.'
Pad, it sure sounds like the Apostle Paul thinks the bread and wine are actually Jesus Christ.
The Apostle Paul did not expound onCommunion,look at those Scriptures again,and he did not support the RC teaching of the transubstantiation,Paul spoke what Jesus said,and encouraged us to do so in REMEMBRACE,and not to make shallow that which was sacred.

Christians all through history have followed his teaching on this.I have seen some of the most profound Communion services especially in England years ago,and by evangelicals.Never was I moved by a communion service than when I visited:World Evangelization Crusade(WEC) in Bullstrode,London.The music,the words said,the sacredness was so precious and real.I had no problem reflecting on the Death of our Lord in that service,there was weeping and a real move by the Spirit,repentance was everywhere in that room of over 300 missionaries and visitors.

It is Christ who is our focus Clay,I am not arguing with you that you believe in the Real Presence.But I know that God's presence is active in all Christian affiliations and when they humble themselves to the SACRED,and focus on Jesus and His suffering,the Spirit moves and repentance is there,sometimes weeping and brokenness in the Body,that only Christ can inspire as the Real Presence with the Body.

The Lamb of God of course can not be anything but a Lamb,nevertheless no one but JESUS could have laid down His life for all of humanity.

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<quoted text>I am screwed onto the right bolt,and if by chance,slim slim chance I am not on the right bolt,I will have lived a good life,and surely my faith and living to be a blessing rather than a curse cannot possibly destroy my end and life after death.UNLESS what is beyond death is only the EVIL we see on this earth.I doubt that is the case.
We all have to be concerned about what we believe and hold on to.It could be detrimental to your life after death.There is no guaratee that life does not exist after death!
If you were not a gray boxer, I might have been able to find the trail of our conversation.

Many people believe that even if you live a good life, if you didn't believe just right, you are just as damned to hell and anyone else.

I have been living a good life, helping where I can, not breaking any laws and such, does that mean that your god would accept me, too? Most would say, "Nope!"

What kind of god would require belief/faith? That is silly. Faith is believe contrary to evidence; why would a god require that? That is a bronze age, or older, pile of crap and you are still buying into it.

Sacrificing is also a bronze age or older pile of crap. I am not talking about the police man who dies trying to save a victim or anything like that! I am talking about the killing of your best lamb so that a god will forgive you for not following his laws. That is stupid. Yet your god required that.
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He is alive.
Dear Jesus where is your address.

Many sick people please asked as well pray.

Please dear Jesus go inside take your big stick..yes
who ever need clean every blocked trough blade stream
o don't worry dear Jesus if you strike hard..Are you remember..when you strike with your stick.. clean water come beautiful as spring nice as well clean.
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Can he ever return in his human body?
Who can fault you for dissecting that which you do not understand Blacksheep. You want to say that Jesus did not or was not a Sacrifice for sin. How could He be a sacrifice if He rose from the dead?What happens to the slaughtered animals after they are sacrificed on the altar?They were eaten,you know that.

Jesus of course was not eaten,and His crucifixion basically was the same as thousands of Jews and other nationalities who were executed in the same fashion by the ROMANS. Did you know the Japanese also used crucifixion,and the Chinese in their history as well?

Why do we say Jesus was sacrificed? BECAUSE God the Father deemed it so,as His only begotten Son was sent to endure the Cross and die for the sins of all humanity,and the garden of Gethsemane is where HE(JESUS) labored in His mind and Will for the sins of all human kind,He sweat drops of Blood in agony for your sins and mine. It is the Garden of Gethsemane that really shows the PRICE JESUS was going to pay to redeem all humanity.

Jesus was a sacrifice because HE willingly laid down His life,and the truth of the matter here is that HE knew it was not going to be a p a i n l e s s event,and every fiber of His being would be maxed out in extreme suffering and anguish.Any teaching you might hear that Jesus did not suffer any pain is bogus beyond words. Every nerve and muscle of His body was taxed to the umph degree,as He was en route to Golgotha.Many people never survived the Scourging,let alone the journey carrying His own cross on those shoulders torn by whips and the cruel devices used to scourge Him.

The Crown of thorns was a thicket pressed on His Head,piercing into his skull and no doubt even reaching the brain.His beard was plucked,perhaps the least of what happened to Him,but a painful experience to say the least.

Sacrifice? YES,not that His rising would void out what He experienced,but the Scripture tells us that the FATHER raised Him from the dead,He did not raise Himself. Jesus laid down His life,and He could have asked the FATHER to destroy the world and set Him free from the anguish of the Cross and all that transpired around that event. Yes Jesus did ask the Father to remove that CUP from HIM,but nevertheless"Not My Will,but THINE be done." It was a sacrifice before the Living God,a mystery that human beings sinful and wretched we are could ever understand.

ANY type of anguish and suffering to redeem a violent society is a sacrifice!JESUS was the Anointed ONE chosen by His Father to be that Sacrifice,whether you understand it to be so or not BlackSheep.Your part in this? Believe and Receive it,it is FREE,and He will not cast you out if you go to Him.
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If you were not a gray boxer, I might have been able to find the trail of our conversation.
Many people believe that even if you live a good life, if you didn't believe just right, you are just as damned to hell and anyone else.
I have been living a good life, helping where I can, not breaking any laws and such, does that mean that your god would accept me, too? Most would say, "Nope!"
What kind of god would require belief/faith? That is silly. Faith is believe contrary to evidence; why would a god require that? That is a bronze age, or older, pile of crap and you are still buying into it.
Sacrificing is also a bronze age or older pile of crap. I am not talking about the police man who dies trying to save a victim or anything like that! I am talking about the killing of your best lamb so that a god will forgive you for not following his laws. That is stupid. Yet your god required that.
WHO has not raised the same questions you have for me here Blacksheep. I like black sheep,they are as precious as the white ones,by the way.

I am not thankfully god.I capitalize GOD because He is the Creator blest,and deserves every ounce of respect I can give to Him.

There is no expiration date on your foot that I can see.Who knows your end,and a minute from now you could have the new mind which only God can give to you.It is your opportunity to open up the deep recesses of your mind to HIM who created you.The whole story of Jesus is not to condemn you,but to rescue you from the despair of this life,which is the case when human beings rely only on what they physically respond to on this planet.

Our spiritual eyes need to be opened by Him who created us,with the whole of our who anatomy which has the physical and spiritual senses as well.If I condemn you to a n eternity in hell,that for one places me as your Judge,and only God is Judge.

Jesus spoke with Authority,and if you reading His words gather that He is giving you an opportunity to choose Him or death,than He is the ONE you need to confront with the question of your own end.I had no part in writing the Scriptures,and believe me,no human being could come up with the very unique way God challenges human beings to receive Him,and His dear Son,verses the grave and what is for them who reject Christ.

I cannot and will not tell you that you are going to hell,but I can tell you that the road you are on has, various turns, that you might want to consider what dirrection they are leading you to.It is so important to JESUS that you consider your travel down these roads,that He died on a cruel cross for you,that should tell you something.You claim it is all garbage and trash what we believe,but I would w a r n you that life itself does not promise us any comfort beyond the grave,and that even to your own end there is no assurance that you will not suffer horribly no matter what prosperity you might have now,or not have for that matter.Nothing is guaranteed,but we all die.Jesus said simply "Men die,and than the Judgment" Well,He is stating a fact! Whether you want to believe it or not,or find comfort in atheistic rhetoric,that is your decision.I love Him,He is so direct and to the point,He tells it as it is."YOU LIVE<YOU DIE,and than the Judgment"

You have nor more a guarantee than Jesus is not true to His word than I have to try and convince you of it.It is strictly your choice.But it is like Jesus said"Many will come to the Feast table but will not partake of it"It is parapharsed,but so true,we see what He offers,but we because of our own will decide it is not for us!
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You,'christians' cannot even agree on this one simple topic! LOL!
The 'Christians' can.
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27 Therefore, whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread and drink of the chalice. 29 For he that eats and drinks unworthily eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. 30 Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you: and many sleep.
Positive evidence that unbelievers, those who did not discern the body and blood of Christ in the miracle of the Eucharist, suffered PHYSICALLY.
Notice it says 'eat this BREAD and drink the chalice'. If it looks like a duck......
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4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>The 'Christians' can.
Are Catholics 'Christian?"
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<quoted text>Notice it says 'eat this BREAD and drink the chalice'. If it looks like a duck......
Yes, the bread is Jesus. Your quacking is the same as the unbelieving Jews and disciples.

47 Amen, amen, I say unto you: He that believes in me has everlasting life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate manna in the desert, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven: that if any man eat of it, he may not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh, for the life of the world."

52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"

53 Then Jesus said to them: "Amen, amen, I say unto you: unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. 54 He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will raise him up in the last day. 55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father has sent me and I live by the Father: so he that eats me, the same also shall live by me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers ate manna and are dead. He that eats this bread shall live for ever."
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TheBlackSheep wrote:
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If you were not a gray boxer, I might have been able to find the trail of our conversation.
Many people believe that even if you live a good life, if you didn't believe just right, you are just as damned to hell and anyone else.
I have been living a good life, helping where I can, not breaking any laws and such, does that mean that your god would accept me, too? Most would say, "Nope!"
What kind of god would require belief/faith? That is silly. Faith is believe contrary to evidence; why would a god require that? That is a bronze age, or older, pile of crap and you are still buying into it.
Sacrificing is also a bronze age or older pile of crap. I am not talking about the police man who dies trying to save a victim or anything like that! I am talking about the killing of your best lamb so that a god will forgive you for not following his laws. That is stupid. Yet your god required that.
God required it to lay down a PATH of righteousness for the many who would die before H I S Son would be crucified for our sins. We all wonder why animals have to die at the hands of human beings and their somewhat barbaric ways they do things.If left to his own devices MAN,would sacrifice human beings to some hideous idol to appease it for mistakes and blunders and so on.DID you forget BlackSheep that many cultures were doing such for centuries before even the Jews came on the scene,and God moved Abraham to do otherwise?

History tells us explicitly that gods were formed into images,and the people sacrificed their children,and other adults to them.God of the Hebrews instead had His people to sacrifice to Him for their sins animals.That may sound stupid,but it was God's way to impress on human beings that their instinct to sacrifice for their sins was innate and had to be addressed by God in some way.

Human beings have always been troubled by bad behavior,and called that behavior sin.JUST today watching the New Year's Day parade,a Buddhist float went down that avenue in CA,ringing bells to eradicate " S I N".And the Buddhists do not even believe in a Supreme Being.Why is it so ingrained in us all about sin.That is where your questions should be risen.

What is the SIN that so besets and causes such consternation in the human psyche?

Sin is the human malady which requires action,that results in trouble,anguish,suffering and ultimately death.Sin is a system of sorts that rules in the hearts of all humans,and many human beings are sincerly disraught over the results of sin and what it does in an individual life,affecting families and so on.

In Christ GOD has the only remedy for sin,not an animal as He required in the past before Christ,but His Son.You do know that the JEWS in ISrael and elsewhere do not sacrifice animals,interestingly,all ceased of sacrifices since the time of Christ,has a lot to do with the rending of the Temple walls and to the very altar that happened from the earthquake when Jesus breathed His last breath.

I have to run BlackSheep.Hope you enjoy this day,with family or whoever you enjoy being with.

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Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Who can fault you for dissecting that which you do not understand Blacksheep. You want to say that Jesus did not or was not a Sacrifice for sin. How could He be a sacrifice if He rose from the dead?What happens to the slaughtered animals after they are sacrificed on the altar?They were eaten,you know that.
Not always.
http://www.realtime.net/~wdoud/topics/levitsa...

The name for the burnt offering comes from the Hebrew word holah, "ascending", because, as the animal was wholly consumed in the fire (with the exception of the skin), the smoke would rise toward heaven.

Genesis 8:20 And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

Can you really imagine this? First, Noah and his family could not have eaten all these animals.

Second, really? God, "smelled a sweet savour"? and "and the Lord said in his heart", OK, is god a spirit or does he have a heart and the sense of smell?

Can you imagine a god that would want you to murder an innocent animal for no good reason?
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<quoted text>The Apostle Paul did not expound onCommunion,look at those Scriptures again,and he did not support the RC teaching of the transubstantiation,Paul spoke what Jesus said,and encouraged us to do so in REMEMBRACE,and not to make shallow that which was sacred.
Christians all through history have followed his teaching on this.I have seen some of the most profound Communion services especially in England years ago,and by evangelicals.Never was I moved by a communion service than when I visited:World Evangelization Crusade(WEC) in Bullstrode,London.The music,the words said,the sacredness was so precious and real.I had no problem reflecting on the Death of our Lord in that service,there was weeping and a real move by the Spirit,repentance was everywhere in that room of over 300 missionaries and visitors.
It is Christ who is our focus Clay,I am not arguing with you that you believe in the Real Presence.But I know that God's presence is active in all Christian affiliations and when they humble themselves to the SACRED,and focus on Jesus and His suffering,the Spirit moves and repentance is there,sometimes weeping and brokenness in the Body,that only Christ can inspire as the Real Presence with the Body.
The Lamb of God of course can not be anything but a Lamb,nevertheless no one but JESUS could have laid down His life for all of humanity.
No Catholic would EVER deny that Christ is not present in all of ya.
Remember Pad, its we Catholics who are on the defensive about our faith. People we call our fellow Christians, hate us. They spread propaganda and slander about us.
That is the only reason we are on here.
Your relationship with Jesus Christ is not threatened by Catholicism Pad. God is pure love. He loves the Atheist as equal as the born again. If He didnt, then He wouldn't be God.

However, since theological teachings are put out on the table here...and lots of accusations are flying around, Catholics will stand up and proclaim the truth.

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Yes and every 'christian' believes that they are truly christian and the others are headed down the wrong path. Sitting on the outside looking in, you are a riot!
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<quoted text>The Apostle Paul did not expound onCommunion,look at those Scriptures again,and he did not support the RC teaching of the transubstantiation,Paul spoke what Jesus said,and encouraged us to do so in REMEMBRACE,and not to make shallow that which was sacred.
Christians all through history have followed his teaching on this.I have seen some of the most profound Communion services especially in England years ago,and by evangelicals.Never was I moved by a communion service than when I visited:World Evangelization Crusade(WEC) in Bullstrode,London.The music,the words said,the sacredness was so precious and real.I had no problem reflecting on the Death of our Lord in that service,there was weeping and a real move by the Spirit,repentance was everywhere in that room of over 300 missionaries and visitors.
It is Christ who is our focus Clay,I am not arguing with you that you believe in the Real Presence.But I know that God's presence is active in all Christian affiliations and when they humble themselves to the SACRED,and focus on Jesus and His suffering,the Spirit moves and repentance is there,sometimes weeping and brokenness in the Body,that only Christ can inspire as the Real Presence with the Body.
The Lamb of God of course can not be anything but a Lamb,nevertheless no one but JESUS could have laid down His life for all of humanity.
Not only did the Apostle Paul believe in the Eucharist....but so did all the first Christians they Baptized.
None of the Apostles ran around handing out letters without explaining there contents.
That's why its really important to look at the first writings of the Apostolic fathers to get a clear sense of what was being taught.
You can't look at the writings 1,800 yrs later and decide for yourself!

Hardly any Protestant would dare venture into the writings of the first generation Christians. This is because Catholicism is completely spelled out in detail. Our teachings are laid out on the table. The title 'Catholic' is even laid out.

Those that do read these first hand accounts of the Apostles teachings usually become Catholic, if they are serious about their faith.
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<quoted text>Notice it says 'eat this BREAD and drink the chalice'. If it looks like a duck......
Also;

1 Cor. 10:16 - Paul asks the question, "the cup of blessing and the bread of which we partake, is it not an actual participation in Christ's body and blood?" Is Paul really asking because He, the divinely inspired writer, does not understand? No, of course not. Paul's questions are obviously rhetorical. This IS the actual body and blood. Further, the Greek word "koinonia" describes an actual, not symbolic participation in the body and blood.

1 Cor. 10:18 - in this verse, Paul is saying we are what we eat. We are not partners with a symbol. We are partners of the one actual body.

1 Cor. 11:23 - Paul does not explain what he has actually received directly from Christ, except in the case when he teaches about the Eucharist. Here, Paul emphasizes the importance of the Eucharist by telling us he received directly from Jesus instructions on the Eucharist which is the source and summit of the Christian faith.

1 Cor. 11:27-29 - in these verses, Paul says that eating or drinking in an unworthy manner is the equivalent of profaning (literally, murdering) the body and blood of the Lord. If this is just a symbol, we cannot be guilty of actually profaning (murdering) it. We cannot murder a symbol. Either Paul, the divinely inspired apostle of God, is imposing an unjust penalty, or the Eucharist is the actual body and blood of Christ.

1 Cor. 11:30 - this verse alludes to the consequences of receiving the Eucharist unworthily. Receiving the actual body and blood of Jesus in mortal sin results in actual physical consequences to our bodies.

1 Cor. 11:27-30 - thus, if we partake of the Eucharist unworthily, we are guilty of literally murdering the body of Christ, and risking physical consequences to our bodies. This is overwhelming evidence for the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. These are unjust penalties if the Eucharist is just a symbol.

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/
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Since the Protestant reformation in the 16th century, there has been an on-going of dividing, fracturing, and splintering of one denomination after another, who "have never", NOR "will ever"agree on (anything) regarding the (true authenticated and proven) interpretation of the bible handed down by the Early Church Fathers in 382,393 and 397 AD.---- We as Catholics,continue to embrace, hold fast and adhere to the "true interpretation of the bible" from which we all know that our Protestant brothers and sisters in Christ choose to rely upon their own on (anti-catholic) distorted, contradicting and conflicting "personal opinions" --as the "final authority" by rejecting the TRUTH handed down by Jesus Christ to His Apostles....Furthermore, Bible Only Protestants, who (also) are in "denial of the truth" need to have this TRUTH of biblical and historical church history and the TRUTH of Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church repeated over and over again! Therefore--here is a partial list of the 42,000+ conflicting , inconsistent and contradicting "hodge-podge" of "personal opinionated" denominations since the beginning of the Reformation: This list does not include the small % of agnostics and atheists who, like most Protestants, rely on attacking over 2000 years of historical and biblical (proven truth) in order to keep their bible only (relative truth) beliefs "together and intact"
.Luther (eliminated some original books of the bible)
2.Zwingli (eliminated and rejected the Eucharist)
3.Knox (threw out some of the Sacraments)
4.Wesley (each one rejected something to start a new denomination
5.Huss " " "
6.Cromwell " " "
7.Wycliff " " "
8.(Beginning with the A's " "
Advent Christian Church
Advent Christian Conference
Advent Christian Conference of Japan
Adventist Church
Adventists of the True Remnant
Africa Christian network
Africa Evangelical Church
Africa Evangelical Church of Malawi
Africa Gospel Church
Africa Gospel Unity Church
Africa Inland Church
African Apostolic Church of Johane Maranke
African Apostolic Church of Johane Masowe
African Apostolic Church of Nigeria & Benin
African Apostolic Church St Simon & St Johane
African Apostolic Faith Mission
African Assemblies of God
African Baptist Assembly Malawi
African Born Full Gospel Apostolic Ch
African Brotherhood Church
African Catholic Church
African Christian Church & Schools
African Christians Fellowship
African Church

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<quoted text>WHO has not raised the same questions you have for me here Blacksheep.
So far, you have only preached; you have not answered a single question.
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Yes and every 'christian' believes that they are truly christian and the others are headed down the wrong path. Sitting on the outside looking in, you are a riot!
I have been on the outside looking in, and it is a miserable lonely empty place to be. Take your eyes off of the people and place them on Jesus.
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African Church Mission
African Church of Jesus Christ in Kenya
African Church of the Holy Spirit
African Church The
African Congregational Church
African Covenant Church
African Disciples of Christ
African Divine Church
African Evangelical Presbyterian Ch
African Faith Tabernacle Church
African Free Presb Church of Zimbabwe
African Full Gospel Church
African Gospel Church
African Holy Zionist Church
African Independent Church of Kenya
African Independent Pentecostal Church of Africa
African Interior Church
African Methodist Church in Zimbabwe
African Methodist Episcopal Church
African Methodist Episcopal Zion Ch
African Mission of Holy Ghost Church
African National Church
African National/International Church.....
55.- 41,992 The rest of the A's through Z
41,993. Confrinting
41,994. Orville
41,995. 4GVN
41,996. OLDJG
41,997. justachristian1
41,998. New Age
41,999. Marge
42,000.+ Whomever on this forum that we missed
ALL have their own "self appointed popes and rely upon "inventing and creating" their own "modernistic" truth-- which is "predicated upon" and determined by "whichever way the political or social wind blows"---- supporting ABORTION, GAY MARRIAGE, EMBROYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH, EUTHENASIA, HOMOSEXUALITY, WOMAN MINISTERS, and on and on and on.
The "total reliance and basis" of EVERY ONE these 42,000+ Protestant beliefs, is to aggressively attack, THE TRUTH and to judge and condemn over 2000 years of the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.

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