Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
preston

Waverly, OH

#412647 Jan 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="preston"you are probably the biggest hypocrite that I have ever saw.
JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, YOU VOTED FOR A MORMON
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And YOU did not vote...allowing a dictator communist to stay in the office.
At least the Mormon was a gentleman who did not feed at the public 'trough'.
KayMarie
another accusation{dictator communist{ that you have no proof to verify that statement.

do you and your husband realize how stupid that you two really are?

Obama was born without a'golden spoon" in his mouth like the mormon was, and he achieved the American Dream, going all the way to the White House, and for that reason,people should show him that much more respect, unlike your local chapter of the KKK, which is probably the only group that your old man could minister your peculiar brand of hatred

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412648 Jan 1, 2013
who="TheBlackSheep"
Why were you miserable and lonely? Do you think that every Atheists is miserable and lonely? Maybe you think most of us are just too stupid to realize how miserable and lonely we are.
When I attended church, the feeling that if I forgot to ask for forgiveness for one sin, god would send me to hell to be tortured forever, was a pretty miserable feeling!

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So sad that you felt that God would send you to hell for forgetting to ask forgiveness for ONE sin! Your church should have taught you that God's love and forgiveness reaches beyond our 'forgetfulness'.

So you decided to just go to hell?

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412649 Jan 1, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
When you use quotation marks it indicates you are quoting the person verbatim. Robert did not use the phrase 'use sacraments because God works through them'. We don't "use" the sacraments. And yes, the sacraments are salvific because Jesus said they are.

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I didn't use quotation marks, only a couple of apostrophe's.
KM
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412650 Jan 1, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>the other day, reggie told me to watch out for the game being played out. I knew what you were doing when you threw out that I am pretty smart with my posts.
I didnt need you to give me any credit for my posts. the neg's that I get are proof that I hit the nail on the head.
and yeahhere are some protestants on here who agree with some of teh trash spoken on this forum. LTM taking sides with Orville after he posted that he was praying for God to kill me is proof that you are lying again. but considering how ignorant LTM is, nothing surprises me coming from her, I just considered the source
Preston, I never would agree with anyone who was praying to have God kill someone.
We are never suppose to pray for death but for life. It would go against everything I believe in.
Second of all I told you I never read Orvilles post where he stated that, but you refuse to believe me.
You are an out and out trouble maker Preston you have trash everyone on this post that has be on here at one time or another.
You have only proven that you are a miserable old coot, starving for company.
Orville, Confrinting and KM have more integrity in their baby finger then you have in your whole body.
You have caused nothing but strive on here, the only one playing games on here is you.
Your the only one doing trash talk on here, and probably every where else you go.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412651 Jan 1, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
DINNER TIME!! home made chicken pot pie,can't wait,made it myself.
Sounds yummy Jethro I could not look at any fowl for a while Hamburgers for supper LOL

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412652 Jan 1, 2013
who="preston"]****** ***
hey KM, these dont show on the screenunless you put them on there.
so why did you lie last night when asked why they appear on your posts only.

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I didn't lie at all, Preston. You did not explain what you were talking about.

********** these show up because I want to separate my comments from the one to whom I am responding.

KM
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#412653 Jan 1, 2013
Awe no one paid attention to my John 1:1 answer..I know I didn't finish my response I was about too, but non noticed my post..hehe..oh well maybe next ...have fun!!:oD
Clay

United States

#412654 Jan 1, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
anyone care to bet the pope never sets foot in a developed country for the rest of his term?? i'll bet a few bucks he doesn't
um, he lives is one. Italy.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412655 Jan 1, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
You mean like mocking the pope for saying the angels were not singing when in fact he was right and you were wrong? And then fighting for weeks to avoid admitting you were wrong? Does admitting you were wrong about a bible verse to Catholics go against your religion?

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You didn't hear the Pope's Christmas message in which he emphasized the ANGELS SINGING? Seems he might have reconsidered...

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412656 Jan 1, 2013
who="preston" looks like you caught yourself in another lie/
here is my statement and then you add your lies to it.
ME:I realize that you have some sort of mental unbalance as everyone can easily recognize.
YOU:
Then you tell someone that they have mental unbalance{ because they don't agree with you?}
where is that in my statement?{because they dont agree with you".
why dont you quit lying? it doesnt look good for a wife of an alleged minister to be caught lying as often as you are caught. NEVER MIND, MR FRAUD GETS CAUGHT AS OFTEN AS YOU ARE.YOU TWO ARE CERTAINLY YOKED EQUALLY.LOL.
OK, NOT IT IS TIME FOR HIM TO COME ON AND SAY HE IS GOING TO SUE ME OR COMPLAIN BECAUSE I AM MISTREATING A OLD WOMAN OF 79.LOL

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No lie at all, Preston. You did tell her more times that one that she is mentally unbalanced...and you did it just because you wanted to...and blamed it on her.

I don't need anyone to defend me against the likes of you. If you were a gentleman, I might be worried about your nastiness. As it is, I just consider the source.

KayMarie
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412657 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued....
Read your Bible
New Testament Passages

Matthew 1:23-"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

John 1:1-3, 14-"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

"The late New Testament Greek scholar Colwell formulated a rule which clearly states that a definite predicate nominative (in this case theos meaning 'God') never takes an article when it precedes the verb ('was') as we find in John 1:1. It is therefore easy to see that no article is needed for theos (God), and to translate it 'a god' is both incorrect grammar and poor Greek, since theos is a predicate nominative of 'was' in the third sentence-clause of the verse and must refer back to the subject,'Word'(logos). Christ, then, if He is the Word "made flesh" (Jn. 1:14), can be no one else except God, unless the Greek text, and consequently God's Word, be denied." [2]

Cont
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#412658 Jan 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
When you use quotation marks it indicates you are quoting the person verbatim. Robert did not use the phrase 'use sacraments because God works through them'. We don't "use" the sacraments. And yes, the sacraments are salvific because Jesus said they are.
**********
I didn't use quotation marks, only a couple of apostrophe's.
KM
Lol. Ok Kay.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412659 Jan 1, 2013
who="preston" the other day, reggie told me to watch out for the game being played out. I knew what you were doing when you threw out that I am pretty smart with my posts.
I didnt need you to give me any credit for my posts. the neg's that I get are proof that I hit the nail on the head.
and yeahhere are some protestants on here who agree with some of teh trash spoken on this forum. LTM taking sides with Orville after he posted that he was praying for God to kill me is proof that you are lying again. but considering how ignorant LTM is, nothing surprises me coming from her, I just considered the source

**********

We know that you are smart, Preston. You tell us so all the time.

KM
Clay

United States

#412660 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
I'll come back and finish explaining the John 1:1 confussion...I need a break for now....
Aviela, the Bible is not to be read like that. You guys zig zag across the Holy Book like its a secret hidden code.
And you must agree, anyone can read those verses and see whatever they wanna see.

So then it comes down to who is the authority.

If its the Jehovah's Witness, then why? How come you guys didn't appear until a hundred yrs ago?
Why did God let something as important as the Ministry of Jesus Christ, get completely messed up for 1,800 + yrs?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412661 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued

John 1:18-"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he hath declared him."

John 20:27-28-"Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

Romans 9:5-"...Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen" (NKJV).

Philippians 2:5-8-"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

"'Who was in the form of God' are his [the Apostle Paul's] words: and they are words than which no others could be chosen which would more explicitly or with more directness assert the deity of...Jesus Christ.... Let us remember that the phraseology which Paul here employs was the popular usage of his day, though first given general vogue by the Aristotelian philosophy: and that it was accordingly the most natural language for strongly asserting the deity of Christ which could suggest itself to him....'Form,' in a word, is equivalent to our phrase 'specific character.'... With God...the 'form' is that body of qualities which distinguish Him from all other spiritual beings, which constitute Him God, and without which He would not be God. What Paul asserts, then, when he says that Christ Jesus existed in the 'form of God,' is that He had all those characterizing qualities which make God God, the presence of which constitutes God, and in the absence of which God does not exist. He who is 'in the form of God' is God."

Colossians 1:15-16-"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible...."

cont
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412662 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued

cont
When the Apostle Paul says that Christ is the firstborn over all creation, he does not mean that Christ is the first created being. For he goes on to explain that Jesus Christ created everything in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible. Jesus Christ could not create Himself. The idea among various cults that Christ is the first created being is an impossible absurdity.

Colossians 2:8-10-"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power."

1 Timothy 1:16-17-"Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen."

1 Timothy 2:3-4-"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."

1 Timothy 3:16-"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

1 Timothy 6:14-16-"...the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: Which in his times he shall show, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

Titus 1:3-"But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour."

Titus 2:10-"...showing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things."

Titus 2:13-"Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ" (NKJV).

Hebrews 1:1-3-"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high."

Hebrews 1:8-"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

Jude 25-"To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and for ever. Amen."

cont
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#412663 Jan 1, 2013
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued

cont
Jesus Christ Clearly Taught His Own Divinity

Revelation 21:6-7-"And he [Jesus Christ] said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."

John 8:57-59-"Then the Jews said to Him,'You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?' Jesus said to them,'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.' Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple..." (NKJV).

John 5:17-26-"But Jesus answered them,'My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.' Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. Then Jesus answered and said to them,...'For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.... For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself'" (NKJV).

John 10:28-39-"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them,... If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand."

Mark 2:5-11-"When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?...[Jesus] said unto them, But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,(he saith to the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house" (cf. Lk. 5:20-24).

The scribes' theology was correct: "Who can forgive sins but God only?" Jesus didn't disagree with their conclusion; rather, through the miraculous healing He proved that He in fact was God and had the authority to forgive sins.

The Spirit-inspired writers of the New Testament applied Old Testament passages which specifically refer God-Jehovah to Jesus Christ; therefore, Jesus must be God-Jehovah.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#412664 Jan 1, 2013
who="preston" another accusation{dictator communist{ that you have no proof to verify that statement.
do you and your husband realize how stupid that you two really are?
Obama was born without a'golden spoon" in his mouth like the mormon was, and he achieved the American Dream, going all the way to the White House, and for that reason,people should show him that much more respect, unlike your local chapter of the KKK, which is probably the only group that your old man could minister your peculiar brand of hatred

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I have lots of proof...and his skin color has nothing to do with that proof.

Except on his side, for he hates all those old rich white men. Guess that hits you, huh?

KayMarie
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#412665 Jan 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
You mean like mocking the pope for saying the angels were not singing when in fact he was right and you were wrong? And then fighting for weeks to avoid admitting you were wrong? Does admitting you were wrong about a bible verse to Catholics go against your religion?
**********
You didn't hear the Pope's Christmas message in which he emphasized the ANGELS SINGING? Seems he might have reconsidered...
KayMarie
Wow. Yeah, he said essentially the same thing you said, like it was singing to his ears. The BIG difference between you and the pope is that YOU came on here stirring up trouble by mocking him when you were wrong in what you were mocking him about.

You still won't admit it. You're one of the more stubborn bigots I've ever come across. But you have no problem with bigotry as long as its directed at the Catholic Church. Kay, you talk a good game, but your heart is far from God.
Aviela

Los Angeles, CA

#412666 Jan 1, 2013
LTM wrote:
Aviela wrote:
......what did the apostle mean John mean when he wrote John 1:1 Did he mean that Jesus is himself God or perhaps that Jesus is one God with the father? In the same chapter, 18,......to be continued
cont
Jesus Christ Clearly Taught His Own Divinity
Revelation 21:6-7-"And he [Jesus Christ] said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."
John 8:57-59-"Then the Jews said to Him,'You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?' Jesus said to them,'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.' Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple..." (NKJV).
John 5:17-26-"But Jesus answered them,'My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.' Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. Then Jesus answered and said to them,...'For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.... For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself'" (NKJV).
John 10:28-39-"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them,... If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand."
Mark 2:5-11-"When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?...[Jesus] said unto them, But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,(he saith to the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house" (cf. Lk. 5:20-24).
The scribes' theology was correct: "Who can forgive sins but God only?" Jesus didn't disagree with their conclusion; rather, through the miraculous healing He proved that He in fact was God and had the authority to forgive sins.
The Spirit-inspired writers of the New Testament applied Old Testament passages which specifically refer God-Jehovah to Jesus Christ; therefore, Jesus must be God-Jehovah.
Do you believe Jesus was praying to himself the whole time he was on earth?

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