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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658806 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#412832 Jan 2, 2013
I think I've made up my mind this time. I've hoped for some reasonable discussion on the issues, but all I get is 'liar', etc.

I hope that you discover the truth.

The Pope is NOT Jesus.

KayMarie

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412833 Jan 2, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> You're holding on to 1 scripture and avoiding the other ones I post. What you're saying is that Jehovah is cool with slave beatings and killings. I'm trying to point out other scriptures to show you that he had rights for them. They had privaleges...but you want to take that 1 scripture and squeeze the juice out of it.
What does this say?

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

If the slave suffered for two days and then died, was the master punished?

No!

You owned the slave?

Was the slave property?

Do you think that owning another human is right?

Why can't you beat a slave today?

Simple: Man's laws trump all gods' laws.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412834 Jan 2, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> Also, it would appear that for the master to have been considered free of guilt the beating could not have been administered with a lethal instrument, as would have signified intent to kill.(Compare Nu. 35:16-18.) Therefore if a slave lingered for a day or 2, there should be reasonable question as to whether the death resulted from chastisement. A beating with a rod, for example, would not normaly be fatal, as shown by the statement in Proverbs 23:13 "Do not hold back the discipline from the mere boy. In case you beat him with a rod he will not die."
ROTFLMAO! Change your god's words, I don't care! LOL!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412835 Jan 2, 2013
Aviela wrote:
<quoted text> BlackSheep when you have time read Numbers 35: 16-18
When you have time, read

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Then come up with a twist to make it sound not evil! LOL! Oops, you already tried that!

The thing that I love about the bible is; you can find a verse to support to denounce any stance you want to take! It was written that way for a reason! That is also the reason the layman was not supposed to have the holy book or scroll in his possession. DUH!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412836 Jan 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
I think I've made up my mind this time. I've hoped for some reasonable discussion on the issues, but all I get is 'liar', etc.
I hope that you discover the truth.
The Pope is NOT Jesus.
KayMarie
I like that! You lie but you don't want anyone else to lie! Rich! Very Rich!
Clay

Garden City, MI

#412838 Jan 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
I think I've made up my mind this time. I've hoped for some reasonable discussion on the issues, but all I get is 'liar', etc.
I hope that you discover the truth.
The Pope is NOT Jesus.
KayMarie
They called you liar... You disagreed ..

THEN

you said "I hope you discover the truth, The Pope is not Jesus".

What?? Kay, are you implying we think the Pope is Jesus?
If you are (and I think you are) implying this... It would be a lie. That is not ok to do that. I hope to God you don't actually preach this to others.
Fun Facts

Bay City, MI

#412839 Jan 2, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Glad I can teach you about your dubious church "tradition."
Yes, amazing.
So save souls and give us the proof -- or denounce the fraud.
you may have overlooked...

http://bible.cc/john/10-38.htm

Questions?

http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/l...

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#412840 Jan 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Robert F"
Hello KayMarie
I hope all is well with you and your husband. And may God be gracious to you both.
Concerning the Sacraments, I think of them as connecting points between heaven and earth, through which God's Grace works....
And this is especially true of what you call "repenting". Well, you know it is called something else in the RC Church..., The Sacrament of Reconciliation.
Well, the Sacrament of Baptism in the RCC is a one time event. But the problem is that even after one repents and is baptised, there is occassion(and for myself, many, many occasions) on which I have sinned after Baptism....
In the RCC one does not keep repenting, because one is not getting baptized over and over. Rather one comes to God sorrowful for committing sin, asks for forgiveness, resolves not to commit sin, and receives forgiveness and does penance.
It is a pretty well defined formula, but it really does rest on the fact of being a heartfelt confession. And more or less, this is what the Protestant and Catholic have in common hear. It must be of the heart, and not merely some intellectual exercise.
Problems arise when the intellect and heart are not in harmony. And that is because of the natural man's tendency toward sin, and the battle of the spiritual and natural man takes place....
**********
I understand, and pretty much agree with you. I would not include 'penance' however, because that appears that we can 'pay' for forgiveness.
KayMarie
KayMarie

God's grace and peace....

There is a problem with penance, like you write....

Another way to say it is, that saying a few Hail Mary's and Our Father's is going to be enough to "pay" back for sins committed. And the answer for me is, "No." There is no real way to repay God for his Grace and Mercy.

So for this reason, one must resolve to not sin. And the best way so far is to practice in a practical way works of mercy(feeding the hungry, thirst, clothing the poor, visiting the sick, prisoners, helping the stranger) which lead to virtue, and gets one out of the bad habits of sinful ways, or practice some devotion.
ReginaM

Lakehurst, NJ

#412841 Jan 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
They called you liar... You disagreed ..
THEN
you said "I hope you discover the truth, The Pope is not Jesus".
What?? Kay, are you implying we think the Pope is Jesus?
If you are (and I think you are) implying this... It would be a lie. That is not ok to do that. I hope to God you don't actually preach this to others.
So what she said is she's not a liar, and then proceeded to tell a lie. LOL!

She's a hopeless bigot. Her definition of a "reasonable discussion" is to let her say whatever she darn well pleases, whether it's true or not, and then pout when she's called on it. If she didn't lie, then she wouldn't be called a liar. Simple. Even a child can understand it.
Free Mind

Eaton Park, FL

#412842 Jan 2, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
you may have overlooked...
http://bible.cc/john/10-38.htm
Questions?
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/l...
Fun, you jumped in late.

You say you have proof? OK, the RCC claims tested samples years ago, and surprise -- it's human heart tissue.

So do again. Only now we have DNA and other forensic tests that can tell us much more.

Sure, it's human heart tissue.(I wonder if anyone was murdered?)

So why not test again and show us that all these miracles contain the same DNA???

What's so odd about such a request?

Again -- the RCC tested in the 1970's, so do it again with the amazing new science that God has only recently revealed to us?

We BOTH know the answer to that question, don't we.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#412843 Jan 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
They called you liar... You disagreed ..
THEN
you said "I hope you discover the truth, The Pope is not Jesus".
What?? Kay, are you implying we think the Pope is Jesus?
If you are (and I think you are) implying this... It would be a lie. That is not ok to do that. I hope to God you don't actually preach this to others.
Well it's true you listen to the Pope and put his word ahead of the Word of God, what are we suppose to think?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#412844 Jan 2, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
What does this say?
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
If the slave suffered for two days and then died, was the master punished?
No!
You owned the slave?
Was the slave property?
Do you think that owning another human is right?
Why can't you beat a slave today?
Simple: Man's laws trump all gods' laws.
TBS

You love beating people with this verse.

And when they give you reasons not to beat. You don't listen, and you could care less to understand. Instead, in a frenzy, you do it all the more.

You are a real man....

You live by man's law.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/arch...

This law was given to the people, through Moses, by God because of the hardness of their hearts....And you have proved it.
Free Mind

Eaton Park, FL

#412846 Jan 2, 2013
The RCC claims to have done "scientific tests" on two or more real-presence miracle Eucharists.

But those tests were all done in the 1970's and early 1980's -- before DNA and other amazing forensic techniques -- which are accepted as evidence in a Court of Law today.

So why not help to save souls by testing anew, using this far more advanced science?

Isn't that why God revealed so much to mankind anyhow?

RCC -- time to put up or shut up.

If you claim spiritual superiority, then stop hiding and prove it.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#412847 Jan 2, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Well it's true you listen to the Pope and put his word ahead of the Word of God, what are we suppose to think?
Huh?? We put the Popes word ahead of the word of God?

I can officially call you a liar too. Because, you are well aware by now, of the Church's teachings. So when you throw silly stuff like that out, its deliberately being deceitful, and you know it.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#412848 Jan 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
So what she said is she's not a liar, and then proceeded to tell a lie. LOL!
She's a hopeless bigot. Her definition of a "reasonable discussion" is to let her say whatever she darn well pleases, whether it's true or not, and then pout when she's called on it. If she didn't lie, then she wouldn't be called a liar. Simple. Even a child can understand it.
Excuse me Regina but day after day we show you from the Bible where and how the catholic teaching is wrong and misguided, which clearly proves to everyone you follow the pope rather than the Word.

She did not lie but is showing you the truth because she loves you and cares what happens to you, the opposite of a bigot dear.
ReginaM

Lakehurst, NJ

#412849 Jan 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
KayMarie
God's grace and peace....
There is a problem with penance, like you write....
Another way to say it is, that saying a few Hail Mary's and Our Father's is going to be enough to "pay" back for sins committed. And the answer for me is, "No." There is no real way to repay God for his Grace and Mercy.
So for this reason, one must resolve to not sin. And the best way so far is to practice in a practical way works of mercy(feeding the hungry, thirst, clothing the poor, visiting the sick, prisoners, helping the stranger) which lead to virtue, and gets one out of the bad habits of sinful ways, or practice some devotion.
"We need concrete acts to counteract habits. Because our sorrow for sin is sometimes imperfect (though adequate), we do penance. Because Christ joins our penances to His own perfect act of satisfaction for our sins and offers them for us to the Father, we do penances. Because we receive something, yes, ineffable, through no merit of our own we do penances in reparation for our faults and in gratitude for the pardon we have been given."
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2011/09/quaeritur-am-i...

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#412850 Jan 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
TBS
You love beating people with this verse.
And when they give you reasons not to beat. You don't listen, and you could care less to understand. Instead, in a frenzy, you do it all the more.
You are a real man....
You live by man's law.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/arch...
This law was given to the people, through Moses, by God because of the hardness of their hearts....And you have proved it.
I know that you are doing your best to insult me, but you have failed miserably.

If I gave you 100 reasons why 2 + 2 = 5, would I be right? Would you be a hard head for not listening to me and agreeing with me?

You have proven nothing. Your god came up with this law and he never rescinded it.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#412851 Jan 2, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
The RCC claims to have done "scientific tests" on two or more real-presence miracle Eucharists.
But those tests were all done in the 1970's and early 1980's -- before DNA and other amazing forensic techniques -- which are accepted as evidence in a Court of Law today.
So why not help to save souls by testing anew, using this far more advanced science?
Isn't that why God revealed so much to mankind anyhow?
RCC -- time to put up or shut up.
If you claim spiritual superiority, then stop hiding and prove it.
Why?

So you can get back on the computer after the results are in and claim they tampered with it? lol

Get real...nothing will ever convince you. You're a bigot. Bigots are not easily changed.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#412852 Jan 2, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Fun, you jumped in late.
You say you have proof? OK, the RCC claims tested samples years ago, and surprise -- it's human heart tissue.
So do again. Only now we have DNA and other forensic tests that can tell us much more.
Sure, it's human heart tissue.(I wonder if anyone was murdered?)
So why not test again and show us that all these miracles contain the same DNA???
What's so odd about such a request?
Again -- the RCC tested in the 1970's, so do it again with the amazing new science that God has only recently revealed to us?
We BOTH know the answer to that question, don't we.
By the way, why are you telling us this? Go tell the Church.

Catholics are not required to believe any of these Miracles. They are never discussed. Never preached. Never taught to Catholic students.
Heck, I just learned about 3 more events from YOU!! I been to Church thousands of times; I went to a Catholic grade school; I read tons of books on Catholicism related stuff.
But today is the only time I ever came across these Eucharistic Miracles (except for the Lanciano one. I did hear about that before).
Irish

Dublin, Ireland

#412853 Jan 2, 2013
Isnt it logical to know they have to say that, as they believe in their faith and church.Saying otherwise is lack of faith in their church.
So who cares what they say.All others say theirs is the one true faith.
I dont care what anyone else believes. But for me Catholicism is the one true faith.If i said other wise i would be not very good catholic.lol

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