Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[confrinting with the word]

Clay wrote:

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Do you know that the Dead Sea Scrolls - written by a devout Jewish community from 250 BC -68 AD - had the books in their Scripture that you guys later removed? Tobit was one for sure, and I believe two others
I encourage you to do some homework on this.
The false Prophet Luther was wrong. He shouldn't have done what he'd done.

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YOUR WROTE..

"The false Prophet Luther was wrong. He shouldn't have done what he'd done."

QUESTION..

JUST HOW MANY MILLIONS MORE WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE BLOOD BATH OF THE INQUISITION...

Had not Luther attempted to stir up a revival in the Roman Catholic Church?

[LTM]

jethro8 wrote:

<quoted text>I don't take it every day, i take it for 10 days stop for seven days get a blood test done see the doctor and if my blood counts are ok i start the 10 day cycle again,as far as working goes i'm going to hang in there as long as i can.

Good for you Jethro, I think that is great.
I hope you get stronger every day.

[confrinting with the word]

Clay wrote:

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Oh? How am I not living by Gods word?
Id say I'm living by His word more than you, because I have 7 more books in my Bible. Thus, you're not technically "Confronting with the word"
You're "Confronting with some of the word".

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I have presented God's plan of salvation over and over again.

and you could not care less...

I HAVE GIVEN THOUSANDS OF SCRIPTURES OVER THE YEARS..

and you mock them...

As God has said...

Pro 1:22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

Pro 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

Pro 1:24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;

Pro 1:25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:

Pro 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;

Pro 1:27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.

Pro 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

Pro 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:

Pro 1:30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.

Pro 1:31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.

Pro 1:32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.


Pro 1:33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

[LTM]

confrinting with the word wrote:

who="LTM"
Clay, I just posted Matthew 24 to KM. not to discredit the catholic church .
I don't believe to a relgious denomination because I don't beleive any of them have it absolutely right.
God alone has it right and everyone else a lair .
When they started removing prayer and the Bible from schools the Ten Commandments from government buildings, and we Christians didn't say a word, is when Christianity went AWOL Clay.
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LTM...while there is some question as to who 'has it right', I associate with a church group BECAUSE He said not to 'forsake the assembly', and He desires us to be in one accord.
Maybe we haven't done enough, but I know Christians who are working hard to keep the Commandments, the Bible reading and prayer visible in America. We have a leftist media that stifles our voice, so the cry is not always heard.
KayMarie

Hi KM. Not to forsaken the assembly, exactly what does that mean KM.?? I know the government, wants to be politically correct so not to offend someones faith. But we elect these people into office over and over again.
We were band from protesting the gay parades up here,something about stepping on their civil rights, but no one did anything when we had a Jesus march and we were hackled, and stuff thrown at us.
When I go to a church I expect the truth to be taught, if its not how can we be in one accord with God???
I am all for being in assembly of God with fearing born again brothers and sisters KM I never want to leave the Church or have the worship service end.

[Clay]

confrinting with the word wrote:

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~~~
YOUR WROTE..
"The false Prophet Luther was wrong. He shouldn't have done what he'd done."
QUESTION..
JUST HOW MANY MILLIONS MORE WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE BLOOD BATH OF THE INQUISITION...
Had not Luther attempted to stir up a revival in the Roman Catholic Church?

We showed you the truth about the Inquisition and Crusades...we showed you the sex abuse scandal is blowin up and sensationalized by you all.. Millions were not tortured and killed... You have no credible argument to back up what you're sayin.
Question: knowing what you know now, do you STILL stand up at the pulpit on Sundays and spew your anti Catholic propaganda?
If so, may God have mercy on you.

[hojo]

jethro8 wrote:

<quoted text>you gave me the answer i expected,nothing,no history to deny the truth i posted,your living out the true faith of hypocrits,they tell you to follow the word of god treat your fellow man with love and honesty,and they do the opposite,ya your following the right church,and your number is wrong,it's no longer 1.168 billion catholics,it's 1 billion and shrinking by the day,the only place the church is doing ok is in third world countries where people are not educated about the truth of the church,why do you think the pope went to the poor countries of central america?they are desperate people looking for any kind of hope,did he leave behind any money to help them out?after all with 1.168 billion members at a dollar a week times 52 weeks,that's a lot of money,why didn't he offer to help the starving? the homeless? the sick? why not build a hospital for them? they had the money to build a 2 million dollar church in the midwest,and buy the crystal church,how come they never give to the people they are suppose to love and protect and guide? why didn't he stop here in america?? what's he afraid of? you tell me i'm lying abbout the church all the time yet you post nothing that can prove me wrong.

Your anti-catholic "sickness" will not pollute the minds and hearts of the (yes) other 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world (and growing-each and every year) up 1.5% in 2011 and estimated to be higher in 2012. NOR will it "have any effects" on Clay, Regina, Anthony or ANY OTHER Catholic on this forum who know, believe, acknowledge proclaim and adhere to the TRUTH of Jesus
Christ and His One True (historically and biblically PROVEN Catholic Church. Over and over and over again, I have given you documented and authoritative TRUE Church historian apologistic authors and writers,(both Catholic and Protestant) along with the biographical writers from the Lives of the Saints from the Early Church along with over 2000 years of Apostolic Succession beginning with Saint Peter. It is TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY (YOUR PROBLEM) if you can't accept the TRUTH. Jethro8, you can moan, complain, and grumble" ALL YOU WANT, even on your death bed (God Help You) but your "bogus Church History rif-raf" isn't going to change the TRUTH of TRUE CHURCH HISTORY-----(one iota). Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church will CONTINUE to LIVE ON,(and grow) just like it has for over 2000 years.(Your choice)

[preston]

confrinting with the word wrote:

who="preston"IS THAT the SAME COLLEGE THAT MR FRAUD ATTENDED WHILE a JANITOR?
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My husband was never a janitor at a college. KayMarie

he is the person that said he cleaned blackboards and seats out.

NOT ME!!!

that eqautes to janitorial work, to people that arent as dumb as some frauds on this forum

[TheBlackSheep]

Bat Foy wrote:

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This is how an atheist try's to show evidence for no God.
"You're stupid"
Thank you this has been brought to your attention by Bat Foy

The, "evidence for no god" is the complete lack of evidence for god.

And yes, you are stupid if you think that Atheists and or Scientists are trying to disprove any of the 1,000's of gods that man has created.

[Robert F]

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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Was there a distinction, in the bible, between civil, ritual, or moral Laws? Where?

TBS

In all of Jesus' teachings, he in particular referenced the Ten Commandments(which are a moral law), and summed it up with two commanments, to love God and fellow man....Jesus fulfilled all the Law, as he stated.

Paul goes into the distinction in the N.T. a bit more concerning faith and the law, with for instance,(actually all of Galatians 3 is a good explanation of faith over the law) Galatians 3:9-11

"9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."

So would you be interested in writing about something more concrete, such as the existence of the Universe? But if you think you have some moral authority which is greater than God, I could continue on this as well?

[preston]

confrinting with the word wrote:

who="jethro8" there is no proof,no history,apostolic succession does not exist,jesus never said he is building his catholic church in italy,what proof do you have?? except a pack of lies,phony traditions created by men put together by an roman emporer.your right that's real proven historical fact.
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In ten days the Lord will prove Himself real to you.
KM

is this Orville the fase prophet that we are reading?

[hojo]

jethro8 wrote:

<quoted text>there is no proof,no history,apostolic succession does not exist,jesus never said he is building his catholic church in italy,what proof do you have?? except a pack of lies,phony traditions created by men put together by an roman emporer.your right that's real proven historical fact.

Like I have told you over and over again! BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT!!
Your "personal opinionated anti-catholic conclusions" have absolutely "no basis of TRUE historical TRUTH. If you choose to live in your "narrow world" of hostile anti-catholic vengeance, it is YOUR CHOICE. We as Catholics (CANNOT HELP YOU---ONLY PRAY FOR YOU)---and----we will CONTINUE to worship God Our Father, through His Son Jesus, in the reverence, solemnity and ambiance of Our Lords One True Catholic Church, the Bride of Christ!!!

[preston]

confrinting with the word wrote:

who="4GVN"
Do you think there is really 'anything' going on in that head'? The man is a nut job! When will you people get it? Why would you KEEP posting to him and subjecting yourselves to his issues?
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You are quite right.
KM

lets get one straight, mrs fraud.

NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVER SEEN ME TALKING FILTHY LIKE THE GUY THAT YOU JUST AGREED WITH.

NOR DO YOU EVER SEE ANTHONY CALL ME A LIAR AND A COWARD LIKE HE HAS YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND

[TheBlackSheep]

Bat Foy wrote:

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You atheists love using that. Works like this the United States had legalized slavery so we should trust the constitution? Or should we just see that slavery is wrong and not allow it to happen again? The rape issue in the bible was wrong should we not trust God? Or should we see that the law Moses set up had problems see the problems and not do that?
I haven't killed any disobedient children.

Are you claiming that the U.S. Constitution is a perfect, god inspired document like the bible is?

The U.S. Constitution is like the bible, they are both created by men to control others. The U.S. Constitution, like the bible has been altered by men, to fit with the changing times.

Also, like the bible, the U.S. Constitution is not always followed.

Two major differences between the U.S. Constitution and the bible:

The U.S. Constitution does not contain evil laws.

The U.S. Constitution is not based on mythology.

"should we see that the law Moses set up had problems", obviously, you did not read your bible. moses did not set up the laws. The laws were given to him by god. They are god's laws.

[Loren Eberly]

Government Spending More Than Taxes Support:

President Obama tax the rich to fund holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid. With money derived from wages (union contract), investment and independent business profit.

This is defiant of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA; and won’t enable President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff or balance budget. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

[preston]

Clay wrote:

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We showed you the truth about the Inquisition and Crusades...we showed you the sex abuse scandal is blowin up and sensationalized by you all.. Millions were not tortured and killed... You have no credible argument to back up what you're sayin.
Question: knowing what you know now, do you STILL stand up at the pulpit on Sundays and spew your anti Catholic propaganda?
If so, may God have mercy on you.

which one are you referring that to? or Both?

they love to throw stones at people when they are proven wrong, have u noticed?

[hojo]

confrinting with the word wrote:

who="4GVN"
Do you think there is really 'anything' going on in that head'? The man is a nut job! When will you people get it? Why would you KEEP posting to him and subjecting yourselves to his issues?
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You are quite right.
KM

Preston is as much of a "child of God" as anyone else on this forum!!

[TheBlackSheep]

Bat Foy wrote:

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Awwww here you are again saying you do believe in God/Jesus! I thought you were atheist soooo which is it?

No matter what name you go by, you still say the dumbest things. If I said that Harry Potter said hello to Ron, does that mean that I believe there are really wizards?

There is no evidence of any god. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Not even a little.

[confrinting with the word]

who="LTM"
Hi KM. Not to forsaken the assembly, exactly what does that mean KM.?? I know the government, wants to be politically correct so not to offend someones faith. But we elect these people into office over and over again.
We were band from protesting the gay parades up here,something about stepping on their civil rights, but no one did anything when we had a Jesus march and we were hackled, and stuff thrown at us.
When I go to a church I expect the truth to be taught, if its not how can we be in one accord with God???
I am all for being in assembly of God with fearing born again brothers and sisters KM I never want to leave the Church or have the worship service end.

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Hebrews 10:25 "...not forsaking the assembling OF OURSELVES TOGETHER, as is the manner of some..." The Apostles gathered together daily, sharing the Word and communion...Acts 2:46, 47. Speaking of this, Hebrews says, "If we sin WILLFULLY after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin."

Too many 'Christians' avoid meeting with others because of their opinions or other differences.

KayMarie

[TheBlackSheep]

Robert F wrote:

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TBS
In all of Jesus' teachings, he in particular referenced the Ten Commandments(which are a moral law), and summed it up with two commanments, to love God and fellow man....Jesus fulfilled all the Law, as he stated.

Read the damn bible. jesus said, "There is none other commandment greater than these." He did sum shit up, he simply said that these two were the top two.

Again, did the heaven and the Earth pass away will I was not watching? No.

Finally, what does it mean that jesus fulfilled the law? How do you fulfill, thou shall not murder?

According to the bible, jesus fulfilled the prophecies, not the law. You cannot fulfill, thou shall not steal.

[Hermeneutics Smutics]

preston wrote:

<quoted text>thanks a lot HS.
so you think it is ok for LTM to lie about me when she knows better?.
It amazes me those of us who call ourselves christians, are rising up calling each other lairs, and many other names.
THE REASON WHY I CALLED HER A LIAR IS BECAUSE SHE IS ONE.
LAST WEEK OR SO, SHE SAID THAT I WAS ATTACKING ORVILLE, WHO SAID ON HERE THAT HE PRAYED THAT GOD WOULD KILL ME AND HE HAS REPEATED IT SEVERAL TIMES
THEN I SHOWED ONE PAGE WHERE HE, ORVILLE ,ATTACKED ME 5 TIMES AND THERE ARE ONLY 20 POSTS PER PAGE.
I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY MR/MRS FRAUD(YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW) WOULD SIDE WITH HER AGAINST ME, WITH HER ALLEDGELY POOR EYESIGHT, SHE PROBALBY MISSED THAT PAGE EVEN THOUGH I POSTED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES FOR HER TO LOOK AT BUT LIKE THE LIAR THAT SHE HAS B EN PROVEN, NOT ONLY BY ME BUT BY REGGIE ET AL

I did not know about her calling you a liar or about Orville attacking you.
In that case she has wronged you and needs to apologize. got in the middle of something an mispoke. As they say on the street "Youse my boy".Why would Orville pray to God that he would kill you. That is out of bounds and a sin.Orville needs to apologize as well. Lets try to keep it straight here.We can argue intensely about our faith but this stuff is does not come from a good place. We need to think where it does come from and "keep the devil down in the hole".