Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Yes, but 4gvn says that ALL sins, past, presnt and future are covered no matter what. It sounds like you disagree with him.

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Christ died for our sins BEFORE we committed them. He esteemed us worthy before we were born, simply because we are His creation, and He loves us.
I 'sign' that covenant by agreeing in faith that HIS sacrifice is sufficient, that His Word is true.

Whatsoever is not of faith is SIN. Jesus said that if one knows to do good, and does not do it, it is sin to him. It is written:'Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.' I wouldn't want to take the risk.

This is not meant to scare someone who may have failed unintentionally or unknowingly, and cause them to fear the God will not forgive them. God is not willing that any will perish, and will go to great lengths to save mankind/me/you. But don't try His patience...

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“That which is infinite is known only to itself."
Memorable post. I will remember and use that post.It certainly helps when we approach trying to understand God. Thanks

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who="4GVN" KayMarie, please take the time to sincerely and PRAYERFULLY consider your response. DID Jesus pay for ALL of your (future) sins on the cross? Was it a (FULL) payment? Therefore are they not all(covered)?
I do understand the donfusion, but consider for a moment what your reply would entail. If (any) unconfessed sin was not (covered) we would be in danger of hell at any moment in our lives. In fact we could never be confident of our salvation because it would all hinge on the last moments before death. And what of the sins we commit(falling short of the Glory of God) that we are not even aware of. The scripture tells us that "to him that knows to to good and does it not, to him it is sin." How many times do we as christians fail to to that 'good' thing that we have thought(I should do this, or I should do that), but we just never get around to it. Scripture telles us that that is sin. If that is true and as you say since we did not repent of it we are lost, because that sin was not covered. If that were true we would have NO POSSIBILITY of ever reaching heaven. JESUS PAID IT ALL. They are ALL covered! And we were given the GIFT of eternal life the moment we trusted in that finished work(completed and paid in full) by Jesus. I believe taht what you are misunderstanding is chastisement."whom the Lord loves(His children) He chastises" to bring us back to where He wants us to be. God does not chastise anothers children. Only His own.

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I understand your point. But surely you also understand that one knows whether they are in rebellion against God.
If the heart is where it should be with God, there need be no fear that He will destroy us for some unknown/unintended offense. The just shall LIVE by his faith; if your faith is founded in HIM, you do not need to be afraid.

Yes, He does chasten/correct those He loves. If that happens and the heart is right, the individual will be led to repentance by His correction.

The rebel will turn against God, the church, and other people.

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<quoted text>Memorable post. I will remember and use that post.It certainly helps when we approach trying to understand God. Thanks
Not me. That is quoting Tertullian.
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Why is like that Confe?..give up..no.

Our lovely God created man and woman.
As well woman must be reproductive.

Who told you that woman need give up???
confeeeeeeeee

Its first commandments from God!
-be productive=plodite se

It is on beginning.

Man must provide and sustain family in all aspect.

If not like that man lose manhood!!!

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Yes, I'm well, thank you for asking. Please do keep the many who are still suffering from the storm in your prayers, particularly those who lost their primary residence and are struggling financially.
Your answer is quite a bit different from your previous posts, Kay. The priesthood is a choice, an answer to God's call. No one goes into it in ignorance. We're all fallen creatures, God knows this when He calls these men to serve Him. Much time, usually years, is spent in discernment of the vocation. Is adultery an indication that the married state isn't valid? Should a man or woman who cheats on their spouse throw in the towel and divorce because their "failing" means they shouldn't be married? We all fail.

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Different? How so?

There IS forgiveness for adultery in the marriage state...if both parties are willing. I have seen such restoration. But it is MUCH better if the adultery never occurred; it sends shock waves through family and friends.

It is much worse when it is spiritual adultery. The church is wounded; some never recover, and the enemy gloats over the failure.

My statement about 'ignorance' was in reference to the young man or woman who has never known sexual intimacy. They don't know what they are promising to give up. Nor do they know the intensity of the temptation they will face.

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When man lose manhood its depression..lose job family and everything..Why is like that confe?

Mind is only one place where and when man or woman fill hopeless..its game in your head which others have big diploma as well big money teach others find path.

Did farmaceutic company can help?
noooooo confeeeeeeeee

Head=mind.. person can help by themself!

Its mean game of others which always try have impact
over people as professional manipulation on massive scale or single issue are catastrophic.

To have healthy head as well mind is only one thing see yourself as worthy does meter how you look..old young poor rich..always exist path..knock knock knock..one door will be open.

Church is institution..prayers or believers take as they think what is good for them as they could understood.

byyyyyy confeeeeeee

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who="ReginaM" In the United States, about 50% of men arrested for pedophilia are married.
http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Pedophilia...
I guess marriage is a curse.

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You might say that some marriages ARE. Wives and/or husbands that shun or brutalize their spouse, are denying them the affection so necessary to a marriage. Their partners sometimes look for that affection elsewhere, and mess up the lives of others while they search.

Girls who are molested by their fathers see a husband as 'the old man who lays on the couch and tries to stop their fun. They are always looking for it elsewhere...unless they find effective counseling.

Todays society is in confusion because we are not taught that, as God's creation, every human being is valuable.

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To open for discussion is not adulatory..its old fashion thinking.

People is born with many character as well talent.
Our lovely Creator created us just like that.
Many people can tell you with art with many colors as well symbols but not speak to much..no.
Many people can wrote books poems what stay within mind as well heart as well many secrets too.
Many people can act or dance or sing..tell you many things as secrets too.
Many people can work in great creation with nature still tell you many things as secrets patterns.
Please forgive me about that!

Did our lovely Lord judging us because of that?

Its mean we stay in his Marcy!
Not because we deserve..because Our lovely Creator know everything about us..you can't hide nothing at all.

Pleasure..o yes yes yes dreaming..its in man or woman mind.

''Mind'' is great creation.
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Mercy!

Is that deference when already have that mercy
when he teach us
- be productive in all aspect

Why is adulatory..7 billions kids.
Did all of them been lost?

No..why is like that?
Creator created us with ability each his creation can find path..before and after.

Please tell me what is lost but can't find?!..no your God can find anything as well know why is like that..much more sometimes going put you on test of endurance.

Real massage is;''they attacking you because of me but you will ''endure''.

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Chastity is connected with proximity of the altar and the Old Testament laws of ritual purity applicable to the Levitical priesthood. Since the liturgical sacrifice was to be offered daily, the Levitical rules of abstinence before temple service made it impossible for clergy to ever have conjugal relations.

Marriage according to the Lord and celibacy for the Lord’s sake are two different spiritual paths.
A person is free to follow either, depending on their vocation for both are valid.Both have teir particular service to the Lord.We must respect those who have chosen the path of chastity but it gives them no right to consider themselves superior to married priests.

Re: Paul’s instructions never meant that one must be married to qualify for ordination.Paul assumed that most candidates would be converts with families. Paul favored but the Canons did not require celibacy. He understood it as “a gift”

As far as Catholic v Orthodox is concerned,in theory, there is really nothing to argue about: Rome favors the discipline of a continent and unmarried priesthood while the East feels that in general, married presbyters are better suited for non-monastic service to a parish. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that celibacy is not intrinsic to the priesthood, It is s disciplinary, non-dogmatic matter,.It could be revised.

However, as someone who has worked with sex offenders for around 20 years, I would say the issue of homosexualiy has some but very very little to do with the issue of sexual abuse in the church.First, even if the victims are pubescent or prepubescent there is the issue of power in the sexual acting out. The priest has a power position over the victim. Secondly some molester just have a target range of a pubescent or prepubescent preference.

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who="ReginaM" In the United States, about 50% of men arrested for pedophilia are married.
http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Pedophilia...
I guess marriage is a curse.
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You might say that some marriages ARE. Wives and/or husbands that shun or brutalize their spouse, are denying them the affection so necessary to a marriage. Their partners sometimes look for that affection elsewhere, and mess up the lives of others while they search.
Girls who are molested by their fathers see a husband as 'the old man who lays on the couch and tries to stop their fun. They are always looking for it elsewhere...unless they find effective counseling.
Todays society is in confusion because we are not taught that, as God's creation, every human being is valuable.
KayMarie
Kay Marie,

I used to think the same way as you described, but in time, working with abusers I learned that whether they get satisfied at home with their wives or not has nothing to do with their sexual abuse of others.Thuis is a preference and a problem. This is a compulsion that will drive them no matter what the wife presents. do agree that some husbands cheat because of the coldness and lack of affection from their wives.I know this is no excuse and the husbands are part of the problem.Love your posts and love you and your husband.
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Yes you can see kauc..so what.its very nice and please see that..don't you as well make you funny or worried..still does meter.
Why is like that?
We grow up..from seek pleasure..everything have time..our lovely Creator created everything within us as well know..each of us is deference.
You try spread something confe..then i will protect myself..Are you for sure you not thinking like that about protection in need..disease is very dangerous..but diploma as well law stop become law.
One reason is that Where I stop believe in law when others tray hide something.
Law exist on papers which only interest say yes or not.If someone have interest dined law and try destroy you then..you have what..sofa?!!!
No confe!!!

You have what your lovely God created within you mind and heart.Then your law is love yourself not hurt yourself ..not kill yourself..just disconnect or find path what is good or not by yourself.

Our lovely Lord give law some for everybody.
Law where abuse power stop become law.
Where possession of others become proclamation of law
where God not exist where every Lord become reject
as well each person..its law of anarchy
''kiss girls does meter which one is married or not''''take what ever you want as well do what ever you want''= Is that adulatory as well some abuse power?

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Not me. That is quoting Tertullian.
Tertullian, Free Mind-same wisdom. LOL

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Hermi - that is the BEST POST in a long, long time.
You faith is positive and optimistic. Apophatic philosophy is a very wise approach IMHO. It broadens the spectrum, gives greater glory to God, and leaves the petty dogmatic disputes on the curb.
No one can seriously argue with the VALUE of that kind of faith.
Again, wonderfully insightful post. Thank you.
He says that there is nothing wrong with faith. Wrong. Faith can be misplaced....faith in Hitler, Stalin, etc. His post is misleading and you really are led.

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Yes, they have a choice. They can CHOOSE to be married or they can CHOOSE to be a priest.
"Should we go beond what Christ required?"
Jesus (and St. Paul for that matter) clearly said that it is better, for the kingdom of heaven, for those who can handle it, to be unmarried.
"And would there have been all of the pedifilia in the church if this requirement had not been mandated?"
That's a low blow. The vast majority of guilty priests were homosexuals who preyed on post-pubescent adolescents.
"Did the mandate produce a blessing or a curse?"
A blessing without question. Absolutely. The Church's history is filled with Godly, blessed, holy, loving, caring, life sacrifying saints who were almost ALL celibate. They did it for the Kingdom of Heaven.
How many protestant pastors do you know that would give up sex in order to completely dedicate their lives to God?
Freakshow, the CC has a history of abuse going back 2000 years, including the inquisitions. This organization will be dismantled by the UN in due time. The CC is a phoney, scummy religion of idol worshipers. The exact teaching of the CC can be traced back to Babylon, 2000 years before Christ. You can sink, die, or change your form of devotion and live forever. The first Pope was Constantine, a pagan ruler of Rome who combined falsehoods and parts of true christianity. The CC is an organization of falsehood. In wars......the CC was on BOTH sides. Urging the young to die in the thousands.....
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ok
''brutal''..
i except what ever you say..ones when you become victim..does meter which one..man or woman..''you still have mind to ''realize'' something is around you or not''..

love or love-ones..heart is soul as well emotion..you can be very sad..then you let you down yourself..
ones open your mind then you will see what?''impact''.
Which spirit have impact as well act as accuser?
or perhaps attackers ..
When you notice make you free to except suffering
not give result as other negative side want.

Because ''every Spirit is not holy''..

As well Jesus Christ massage is clear;''they will attack you because of me, but you will ''endure''.

When I enetr in this house i notice as well see..how much..maybe just tiny things..did you see black hand confe?

When I start pray..as you do miracle on only one thing when ''your lovely mother please you''
do now for me who love you too.

How I fill..some without any reserve to be scare..i fill its going trough me..
bum..door in my heart become open as well door in my mind become open..some not deference 0003 per second
on other side is gone how?
out
bummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

by confe

Is that adulatory Confe?
Is that abuse confe?
Is that brutal assault confe?
by whom as invisible guest where law become stop law
where law dined or hide in silence..

Did they attacking every person then accuse does meter on which way!!!???

What I please and call upon name above all name?

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He says that there is nothing wrong with faith. Wrong. Faith can be misplaced....faith in Hitler, Stalin, etc. His post is misleading and you really are led.
Your argument about my post is disjointed.Hitler was a real person in thereal empirical world, who was observable,whose actions were observable ans could be known and tested empirically. Faith would not be the best way too kow Hitler.Hitler was not in the spiritual dimension.
God is in the spiritual dimension. We cannot know God empirically . We cannot observe or way to God. We cannot reason our way to God etc . The only way to know God is through faith.
Our minds lack the capacity to know God in this way. Our conceptual context and language cannot aptly describe God.
And please do not come back with misplaced faith in Voodoo and spirits etc.We can rule these out apophatically.

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Freakshow, the CC has a history of abuse going back 2000 years, including the inquisitions. This organization will be dismantled by the UN in due time. The CC is a phoney, scummy religion of idol worshipers. The exact teaching of the CC can be traced back to Babylon, 2000 years before Christ. You can sink, die, or change your form of devotion and live forever. The first Pope was Constantine, a pagan ruler of Rome who combined falsehoods and parts of true christianity. The CC is an organization of falsehood. In wars......the CC was on BOTH sides. Urging the young to die in the thousands.....
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The exact teaching of the CC can be traced back to Babylon, 2000 years before Christ.

What I find interesting is the EXACT teaching, not some teachings etc.

This is the first time I heard that the UN will dismantle the Catholic Church. Will this happen before or after they dismantle the Jihadists?
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0003 per second..how much is fast that?
ok

sStill nothing change when you say hitler stalin this or that..its secret society know about that..if yes please tell me why yes and why not..if you liked make product as great manipulation..its so easy who did not know what others prepare on long run then accuse..Did you do that?

Just a minute!
Its not like that!

Long long long period of great manipulation..did you do that?
Why is like that?
Someone calculated about what?

''On every action will be reaction''.

We as human have ''conciseness'' to be control as well that we can control.
Your lazy and crazy craft=gdje netreba raditi mnogo as you describe miracle like never before ''robotic intellect design is set up as deadly act where not to much left for reverse or stop''.

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