Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Slavery in biblical times was very different from the slavery that was practiced in the past few centuries in many parts of the world.
People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin.
In Bible times, slavery was more a matter of social status.
People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their masters.
Economics.It is not a perfect match but it does compare somewhat to todays economic realities.
If we examine the economic classes, we can see, on some levels, a degree of slavery.
The Bible often approaches issues from the inside out. If a person experiences the love, mercy, and grace of God by receiving His salvation, God will reform his soul, changing the way he thinks and acts.Someone who has experienced Godís gift of salvation and freedom from the slavery of sin, as God reforms his soul, will realize that enslaving another human being is wrong. He who has truly experienced Godís grace will in turn be gracious towards others. That would be the Bibleís prescription for ending slavery.
Thank you, Herme!

Hope you are feeling better and getting stronger every day....
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God has His reasons for everything....

We are to do His Will...
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Clay wrote:
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So Marys words are absurd because you're not smart enough to comprehend the context.
Ya ok. Lol
Come on, I want to hear that story about you 'just finding out you were Catholic by baptism- and you never knew it.
Then months later, you made up a story about you being raised Catholic and your parents would not let your protestant friend attend Mass with you and your family.
Busted!
Again, you lie about things I have posted in order to avoid the point.

OK, I don't understand the context of Mary's Second Secret of Fatima.

Here are Mary's words: Please explain.

"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI."

Please explain why this "secret" was only released after-the-fact, in 1941 after Pius XI was already the Pope and after WW2 had already begun?

Why didn't the RCC warn the world in advance?

Why did the RCC wait until Hitler had invaded Russia?

Could it be that the Vatican wanted to get rid of Communism and appease Hitler?

Why did God murder so many Chinese and poor Russian peasants, yet Mary said it would be the Church that would suffer?

How does devotion to Mary's Sacred Heart save souls? Did Jesus make her a god?

It's all COMPLETELY ABSURD. But I'm sure you can explain. And if you cannot explain, then just lie and attack the messenger.
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confrinting with the word wrote:
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They are fulfilling the prophecies of Jesus...
JESUS SAID..
Mat_24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mar_13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Luk_21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying;
I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
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WHILE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC SAYS THAT JESUS IS CHRIST...
THEY ATTEMPT TO DECEIVE THE WORLD BY
EDITING. HIS WORD
DELETING FROM IT...
ADDING TO IT
DISTORTING IT.
DENYING IT...
BY
ATTEMPTING TO REPLACE IT
WITH THEIR OWN
ASSUMPTIONS,
PRESUMPTUOUSNESS, AND
CONJECTURE...
UNTIL IT IS NO LONGER CHRISTIANITY..
BUT
PURE PAGAN ROMAN CATHOLICISM...
WITH THEIR CATECHISM,
THEIR (so called )CHURCH,... AT THE FOREFRONT..
AND THE BIBLE (the word of God)
COMPLETELY/BLATANTLY IGNORED...
Liar. You're not doing a very good job of freeing me from Catholicism. I told you if what you say is the truth, I'll leave the Church today. So far everything you say is completely engulfed in deception, gossip, falsehoods and stereotypes.
How could I possibly think Confrint is doing the will of God?
You're so filled with pride that you can't even see that Christ was talking about YOU, when He said "many will come in my name... "
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Quite true! As far as the Latin Mass goes, anyone who didn't understand the language had no problem because Missals back then had the English translation on the opposing pages. So much for those just nodding their heads as if they understood when they didn't. What a crock! Another fairy tale from the faux "former Catholic". I feel sorry for the gullible protestants who believe them.
lol. The fairy tales are flying. These are the same folks who believe if it's on the internet it has to be true.
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FOLLOWERS OF YAH ~ The Answer is in the WORD ~ IN THE NAME OF YAHUAH AND YAHUSHUA16.flv

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<quoted text> Asked over Three hours ago. The silence is deafening!
WHICH OF YOUR SINS DID JESUS PAY FOR?
I'm a busy guy running two businesses you clown.

Are you saying as soon as you accept that Jesus died for your sins you can sin away and it doesn't matter?

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God has His reasons for everything....
We are to do His Will...
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Not every thing that is done ....BY MEN ...in the name of God ...

is GOD'S WILL...

IF IT WERE...OUR WHOLE WORLD WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

MEN START OUT WITH GOOD INTENTIONS....AND THE CARNAL MIND KICKS IN

AND THE WORKS OF THE FLESH SLIP IN AND EVENTUALLY WHAT HAS BEEN STARTED

WITH GOOD INTENTIONS TURNS SOUTH AND BECOMES

SELF SERVING...SENSUAL AND EXPLOITED BY GREED.

THE A.S.P.C.A. IS A prime EXAMPLE.

What was set up to provide animal shelters...( a non profit organization..) has become a money making conglomerate...
sheltering animals is no longer their priority..

Now you have to pay them to take an animal...and pay to adopt one

their original mission has been set aside..

Currently animals are being set out on the highways as the were before...because those that cannot afford to keep them..can ill afford to pay some one to take them..

Man corrupts his own mission..

The road to hell is paved with good intentions,... corrupted
and distorted by mans carnal Adamic nature.
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Taxes Wages and Fiscal Cliff:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully reelected President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, Congress, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americaís grandchildrenís children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream to fund schools. Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands does not enable President and Congress to evade fiscal cliff or balance budget and bankrupts USA; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohioís $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. Americaís grandchildrenís children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. Americaís grandchildrenís children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.
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Free Mind wrote:
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Again, you lie about things I have posted in order to avoid the point.
OK, I don't understand the context of Mary's Second Secret of Fatima.
Here are Mary's words: Please explain.
"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI."
Please explain why this "secret" was only released after-the-fact, in 1941 after Pius XI was already the Pope and after WW2 had already begun?
Why didn't the RCC warn the world in advance?
Why did the RCC wait until Hitler had invaded Russia?
Could it be that the Vatican wanted to get rid of Communism and appease Hitler?
Why did God murder so many Chinese and poor Russian peasants, yet Mary said it would be the Church that would suffer?
How does devotion to Mary's Sacred Heart save souls? Did Jesus make her a god?
It's all COMPLETELY ABSURD. But I'm sure you can explain. And if you cannot explain, then just lie and attack the messenger.
I don't get worked up in the secrets. For some odd reason.. You do.
Its my understanding, that Mary is a powerful powerful intercessor. But she can only act if we humans make the initiative. She brings the prayers to Jesus in a similar way when she interceded at the wedding in Cana when Christ performed His first miracle.
God, of course, knew WWII Was going to happen, but He respects our free will and even allows evil to interact in our lives in order to bring out the greater good in humans. We humans could have stopped WWII. Mary could not have on her own. It takes us to act first. Once we make that initial step, Mary, the Saints and our earthy friends can pull us along.
Its like the drug addict who badly needs treatment. His friends and family can't really do much UNLESS he makes the initial step. No matter how badly you wanna help the person, if they don't want it, you can't help them. You ever watch Intervention on TV? The ones who get help are the ones who look at their family members and say "ok, I need to be saved".. Then and only then, can the family really get the power to help.
Mary is our spiritual Mother, and the Saints are our friends. They desperately wanna get involved in helping us to Jesus Christ. But their hands are tied, unless we act first.

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I'm a busy guy running two businesses you clown.
Are you saying as soon as you accept that Jesus died for your sins you can sin away and it doesn't matter?
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Make it three businesses that you are attempting to run

You are failing miserably in attempting to run God's business.

If you attempt to ignore the rules of your other two businesses as

as you do God's you will fail with them too.
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Catholic's took the bible you claim you gave us and trashed it
I hope you get some help for your condition.
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Have you stopped sinning Kay?
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The Bible says that 'there is none that sinneth not'. I have no argument with that Book.
I DO, however, consciously watch to keep my words and my life 'clean'. The older I get, the less effort it takes.
My worst offenses are sins of omission...those good things that I don't get done.
KayMarie
You're going pretty easy on yourself Kay. You said when your child is truly repentant they don't get punished. If your child does the same thing again, do you punish them then?
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confrinting with the word wrote:
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Make it three businesses that you are attempting to run
You are failing miserably in attempting to run God's business.
If you attempt to ignore the rules of your other two businesses as
as you do God's you will fail with them too.
A lying tongue, pride, wrath and now envy. Do you think Jesus will overlook these sins of yours?
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Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Slavery in biblical times was very different from the slavery that was practiced in the past few centuries in many parts of the world.
People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin.
In Bible times, slavery was more a matter of social status.
People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their masters.
Economics.It is not a perfect match but it does compare somewhat to todays economic realities.
If we examine the economic classes, we can see, on some levels, a degree of slavery.
The Bible often approaches issues from the inside out. If a person experiences the love, mercy, and grace of God by receiving His salvation, God will reform his soul, changing the way he thinks and acts.Someone who has experienced Godís gift of salvation and freedom from the slavery of sin, as God reforms his soul, will realize that enslaving another human being is wrong. He who has truly experienced Godís grace will in turn be gracious towards others. That would be the Bibleís prescription for ending slavery.
You are right Hereme, It would be like a house keeper, or a butler.
Nannies etc.
People who were rich hired the whole family, some of them truly loved their Masters and served them even when they could have left.
After a debt was paid.
There were of course like to day the exceptions. men raided villages and inslaved people like the Egyptains did, and treated them very bad.
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I hope you get some help for your condition.
Thanks :)

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The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.
My confession:

Ben Stein on Christmas
I am a Jewish, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say,'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu . If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jewish, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God ? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Grahams daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?'(regarding Hurricane Katrina).. Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said,'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hara (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein

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The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.
My confession:

Ben Stein on Christmas
I am a jewish, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say,'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu . If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a jewish, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God ? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?'(regarding Hurricane Katrina).. Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said,'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

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xxxxxxx

In light of recent events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein
marge

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You're going pretty easy on yourself Kay. You said when your child is truly repentant they don't get punished. If your child does the same thing again, do you punish them then?
and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons, "MY SON, DO NOT REGARD LIGHTLY THE DISCIPLINE OF THE LORD, NOR FAINT WHEN YOU ARE REPROVED BY HIM;
FOR THOSE WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE DISCIPLINES, AND HE SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES."

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