Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406752 Dec 3, 2012
What can wash away our sin?
How about our own suffering in PURGATORY?
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406753 Dec 3, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
There are a few other things Jesus 'forgot' to tell the Apostles.
One was to compile a bible, print it, and pass it out to you guys to determine your own Christianity.
Purgatory is biblical. It makes too much sense logically as well. Nothing unclean shall enter Heaven. If you so arrogantly think you're clean, then you're in for a rude awakening.
Why don't you keep it real with everybody. You're asking people to completely ignore the first 1,800 yrs of Christianity, and follow your take on it - based on what YOU think the bible is saying.
So you believe that PURGATORY os a place where you can go to pay your own sin debt by your own suffering. If only God had known about that, He could have spared His only Son.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#406754 Dec 3, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Pad good friend
I agree with what you write....
Here is a concern of mine, with all the spilling of innocent blood by abortion, there is coming a day of judgement for the U.S., and other nations that practice this form of what I call "sacrifice to Molech"....
I don't think the time is far off, and we may be seeing signs of this judgement in the environment(weather issues) the heavens already....
It seems that there are two reasons why God judges nations.One is of course the Abortion issue.I cannot imagine what is in store for countries like China that has set in law not only abortion,but prohibits couples to have more than one baby,and in some cases only two.The horrible decision on the Chinese to kill female babies,or put them up for adoption is terrible.

The Chinese men are going to want to move in every direction out of China to find for themselves wives.

As for this country,we have had real truth preched fro our pulpits,and there has been great moves of God in this land.Now we for convenience sake are enforcing laws to protect the Abortion industry,if weather conditions are the first sort of judgment on this land,I will not wonder why?

Decadence is also so apparent here,we Americans are not satisfied at all to settle for wholesome entertainment,our talk shows and standup comedies,or late nite junk all speak of raukus dissent from what was once "A good sense of humor".These garbage replacements for good humor are the basis of a mindset that supports socialism and eventually Communism.Oh someday we might know what communism is really like,one thing many people so not know is that Communistic societies abhor free speech,frivolotry and free expression.

Our present administration is heading fast toward totalitarianism,it won't be long before maybe even Obama demanding what Morsi in Egypt wants.

Judgment comes first in the way of disasters and the like,than also political upheavals and despot regimes are a form of judgment as well on nations that have forsaken truth for debauchery.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#406755 Dec 3, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
HOJO says.....
......I have told you before that Georgetown U. is one of the most liberal Catholic Universities in the U.S. and CARAServices have been "in bed" sleeping with them for years.
MICHAEL says....
CARA says.....
CARA has more than 40 years of experience in quality social science research on the Catholic Church. We offer a range of research and consulting services for dioceses, parishes, religious communities and institutes, and other Catholic organizations. CARAís longstanding policy is to let research findings stand on their own and never take an advocacy position or go into areas outside its social science competence. All CARA researchers have advanced degrees in relevant academic disciplines as well as pastoral experience. CARA researchers are active in the academic community publishing and presenting research about the Catholic Church.
They do RESEARCH and CONSULTING services for dioceses, parishes, and other Catholic organizations for over 40 years.
Sounds legit to me!
You don't like CARA because you claim its liberal, and their numbers don't reflect what you want them to be. You don't like the national catholic reporter because its liberal. You don't like the 47,000 nuns in america because they are too liberal. You don't like the president of the United STates because he is liberal......
What are you doing in AMERICA! lol!
What you are saying is that all these numbers are lies and completely the opposite of what they report?
Show me your numbers, or stop with your BS excuses!
UNBELIEVABLE!
You are right (for once-Michael) I do not like CARA because they (in no way) represent the true teachings of the Catholic Church--NOR do they represent the vast majority of Catholic who adhere to, follow and believe in the TRUE doctrinal teachings of the Catholic Church...... As I said before Georgetown is the most liberal University in the U.S.--Their distorted, perverted and skewed % statistics DO NOT speak for God, for Jesus Christ, for the Catholic Church nor do they speak for the 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world.
CARA Working Papers is a report done be analysis data from CARA
Catholic Poll volunteers with social justice attitudes that are liberal
CARA/georgetown.edu/publicatio n/working papers.html
scs.georgetown.edu/...of-arts-in-liberal-stud...

Michael--take your "junk % statistics" somewhere else. There is NOT ONE CATHOLIC on this forum that believes ANY of the anti-catholic "trash sources" that "throw out" on this forum, anti-catholic "hack writers" that you have become "addicted to". Maybe one, two or "even three" of your "bible only" 42,000 Protestants will want to add some of your "heretical BS" to their own "misery of hate" against Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church. You and your agnostic and atheists anti-catholic "personal opinions" are beginning to be a "waste of time. If you think that by bringing up these exaggerated and distorted statistics (over and over again) are going to change us or change our Catholic faith, beliefs or Our Personal Salvation and relationship to Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church--then you are becoming "more desperate" than any of us could EVER IMAGINE!!--Go look in the mirror Michael---and you will see the REAL PROBLEM!!.
marge

Ames, IA

#406756 Dec 3, 2012
4GVN wrote:
What can wash away our sin?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus!
marge

Ames, IA

#406757 Dec 3, 2012
SEE, I told ya they curse us without talking to them.

We'd be blessed <

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#406758 Dec 3, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>

anti-catholic Protestant preachers

One True Catholic Church

(especially Catholics)

my Catholic doctrinal faith

One True Catholic Church.

Good grief! ALL this time, and you still have never managed to say anything new or worthwhile...
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#406759 Dec 3, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi, Robert! You are so right. We are to fully participate in the Mass, we are to *pray* the Mass. It is the highest prayer we can offer. Sometimes I'm distracted with the stuff of life, worries and so forth, but the best and most fruitful masses are those in which I'm fully present. I love when I see someone with their hands together, pointing straight up to heaven for the entire Mass. It's so intimate, so inspiring. I think God puts those angels in our midst as an example. To be so deep into the Liturgy is such a joy. Thank you.
Go in peace to love and serve the Lord, and one another.
A blessed Advent season to you and yours!
Regina--Gods love to you and thank you for your Catholic faith and your comments, nurtured in Jesus Christ. As a brother/sister IN Christ, I would ask you to please keep me in your prayers during this season of Advent. It has been all that "I have been able to "stomach and endure" in attempting to keep patience, charity, benevolence and serving Christ in HIS love when dealing with "bible only Protestants" who beligerently and purposely attack, not only Our Catholic Faith, but our faith in Jesus Christ and Our Lord HIMSELF. Fortunately---the saving Grace of the Catholic Church (for me) has, is and will continue to be confession!!..Thanks again and a blessed, peaceful time of preparation during this season of Advent to you and your family!!
hojo
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#406760 Dec 3, 2012
JUST-A-CHRISTIAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Good grief! ALL this time, and you still have never managed to say anything new or worthwhile...
The TRUTH needs to be repeated over and over and over again until THAT TRUTH begins to sink in to those of you bible only Protestants who are the "repeat story" the Prodigal Son in Luke 15:11 defiant, rebellious and hostile----that is (of course) until--"he finally came to his senses"! There still may be hope for you "since you Confrinting, Orville, 4GVN, and many others------ are still only half-way there!!!

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#406761 Dec 3, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
TheBlackSheep.....
No one in the ENTIRE MEDITERANEAN past and present, outside of a handful of agenda driven christian ONLY writers ever mentions a miracle man named Jesus. I wonder why???
05Decc12.....

.....LIAR.....

The WHOLE of the Mediterranean knows about Jesus Christ.

Ps:....you 'sickel' breath have Never been to da Mediterranean or else you would know how to spell it correctly.

You are fulla schidt to the eyeballs....

....and den sum toooooo.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406762 Dec 3, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing but the blood of Jesus!
You got that right, Sister.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#406763 Dec 3, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
So you are on this forum to discuss the four corners of the round table
RIGHT...
To talk about something that you know nothing about
and claim you don't believe in.
I to you ..GOD DOES NOT EXIST...WHO ARE YOU SHADOW BOXING WITH???
You always attack when you fail to have an answer.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#406764 Dec 3, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
There's more than just a verse or two, and also Sacred Tradition which describes the Mass from the earliest days of Christianity. Don't forget, we're not 'bible alone', however, it is biblical.
What makes you think the younger generation doesn't like Latin? I've always loved the Latin Mass, and there are many Catholics (young Catholics) who prefer it.
Why are so many churches going away from Latin masses? To rid yourself of 'Sacred Traditions', you must have a very good reason. Do you still only eat fish on Fridays?
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>Why do anti-Catholic Christians always throw down the money card whenever they don't know the real reason behind something? And what, may I ask, is wrong with money? The Church needs it just the way everybody else does. How do you think the electric bill gets paid
Philadelphia trial revives Catholic Church sex-abuse crisis
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/...

Nothing is wrong with paying the electric bill, but after reading the above article, do you believe that the church has done right by its victims?

It was not just the priests abusing the children, it was also the priests, bishops and cardinals who covered up and are still covering up the crimes.

I am looking for the article where the catholic church is trying to get out of paying the victims, claiming that they cannot sell buildings that the church does not own. They claim that the people own the builds, not the church. Then the church turns around and buys the crystal cathedral for $58 million!?!?
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>Purgatory is still a doctrine of the Church. It's not an "invention" and hasn't been "gotten rid of". You need to find out what Catholicism actually teaches and why. You're denouncing something that you know nothing about. Disagree with it, if you must. But it's pretty obvious you've gotten hold of some erroneous information. It's like my basing a dislike of apples on the orange I've just eaten.
purgatory has its roots much deeper than the catholic church. Much older than any christian.

Couldn't you pray people out of purgatory? Didn't the church take money to help move loved one out of purgatory?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#406765 Dec 3, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing but the blood of Jesus!
What happened to all the people who lived before jesus died?

What happened to the billions of people who died after jesus, but never heard one word about him?

Can you imagine, 1 billion Chinese, standing at judgment day, "What?! No one told us!? We are damned to Hell because no one told us about jesus??! WTF?"

The Mayans, "Yeah, WTF?"

The Australian Aborigines, "Hey! Why didn't you tell us?"

jesus, "You did not know me in life, so I do not know you now?"

Chinese man, "Well, you're the f'cking god! You could have made the introductions, but no... you only wanted to tour a few towns in the Middle_East. Too cold in Peking for ya?"

Someday, you may see how silly your beliefs are.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406766 Dec 3, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
What happened to all the people who lived before jesus died?
What happened to the billions of people who died after jesus, but never heard one word about him?
Can you imagine, 1 billion Chinese, standing at judgment day, "What?! No one told us!? We are damned to Hell because no one told us about jesus??! WTF?"
The Mayans, "Yeah, WTF?"
The Australian Aborigines, "Hey! Why didn't you tell us?"
jesus, "You did not know me in life, so I do not know you now?"
Chinese man, "Well, you're the f'cking god! You could have made the introductions, but no... you only wanted to tour a few towns in the Middle_East. Too cold in Peking for ya?"
Someday, you may see how silly your beliefs are.
Someday you'll wish you had listened. You have been told about Him.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406767 Dec 4, 2012
When Jesus died on the cross,He said,"IT IS FINISHED." (John 19:30) Jesus COMPLETED the work of redemption at the cross. No puratory is needed for those who trust in Christ. First John 1:7 declares, "The blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from ALL SIN", Romans8:1 says,"
there is NOW no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." We are cleansed NOT by the "fire of purgatory", but by the blood of Jesus(Hebrews 9:14). Jesus"Himself is the propitiation for our sins"(1John 2:2). It is through Jesus' work on the cross that we are made righteous (2 Cor. 5:21). The apostle Paul spoke of himself as "not having a righteous of his own, derived from the Law, but that which is through FAITH in Christ, the righteousnes which comes from God on the basis of faith." (Philippians 3:9). It is through the wonderful work of Christ on the cross that believers are "blamesell", and hence they have no need of an imagined purgatory(Jude 1:24).
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406768 Dec 4, 2012
By one offering He has (perfected for all time) those who are sanctfied".(Heb. 10:14)
No further purging is neccessary because Christ has perfected 'for all time' those who have believed in Him.
THAT WHICH IS ALREADY PERFECT "FOR ALL TIME" NEEDS NO FURTHER PURGING.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#406769 Dec 4, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Someday you'll wish you had listened. You have been told about Him.
You avoid the questions, Why? Because to answer them would bring to light your stupidity! Be a Man! Face reality.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#406770 Dec 4, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="7th Day Catholics Rock" He most certainly hated Essau now didn't he.
**********
We have to study the language of the Bible to understand. English can't always express the exact meaning. When Jesus mentioned 'hating' one's family for His sake, the word 'hate' meant to 'love less'.
KayMarie
Yeppers like with Persy putting his self and charfacter above the nature of the creator......lol........I continued the post but thanks any way.
Loren Eberly

Mount Vernon, OH

#406771 Dec 4, 2012
Fiscal Cliff and Budget:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service of paying all taxes White House and Congress levies on them. And workers, consumers, and taxpayer are paying all taxes. With money derived from wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

Workers, consumers, and taxpayers also pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream to fund schools. Pay bank interest on purchase price of American Dream for 30 years. Pay interest on lottery winners winnings Legislators invest in school bonds, Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

President, the Justices they appoint and Congress purging all laws of segregation, discrimination, extortion, and fraud. And holding every worker, consumer, and taxpayer accountable to get an agreement (union contract) with every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church agreeing; to market the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of workers, consumers and taxpayers paying all taxes; and paying for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages (union contract), investment and independent business profit.

Would enable President and Congress to evade fiscal cliff and balance every budget.

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