Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603885 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406762 Dec 3, 2012
marge wrote:
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Nothing but the blood of Jesus!
You got that right, Sister.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#406763 Dec 3, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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So you are on this forum to discuss the four corners of the round table
RIGHT...
To talk about something that you know nothing about
and claim you don't believe in.
I to you ..GOD DOES NOT EXIST...WHO ARE YOU SHADOW BOXING WITH???
You always attack when you fail to have an answer.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#406764 Dec 3, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
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There's more than just a verse or two, and also Sacred Tradition which describes the Mass from the earliest days of Christianity. Don't forget, we're not 'bible alone', however, it is biblical.
What makes you think the younger generation doesn't like Latin? I've always loved the Latin Mass, and there are many Catholics (young Catholics) who prefer it.
Why are so many churches going away from Latin masses? To rid yourself of 'Sacred Traditions', you must have a very good reason. Do you still only eat fish on Fridays?
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>Why do anti-Catholic Christians always throw down the money card whenever they don't know the real reason behind something? And what, may I ask, is wrong with money? The Church needs it just the way everybody else does. How do you think the electric bill gets paid
Philadelphia trial revives Catholic Church sex-abuse crisis
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/...

Nothing is wrong with paying the electric bill, but after reading the above article, do you believe that the church has done right by its victims?

It was not just the priests abusing the children, it was also the priests, bishops and cardinals who covered up and are still covering up the crimes.

I am looking for the article where the catholic church is trying to get out of paying the victims, claiming that they cannot sell buildings that the church does not own. They claim that the people own the builds, not the church. Then the church turns around and buys the crystal cathedral for $58 million!?!?
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>Purgatory is still a doctrine of the Church. It's not an "invention" and hasn't been "gotten rid of". You need to find out what Catholicism actually teaches and why. You're denouncing something that you know nothing about. Disagree with it, if you must. But it's pretty obvious you've gotten hold of some erroneous information. It's like my basing a dislike of apples on the orange I've just eaten.
purgatory has its roots much deeper than the catholic church. Much older than any christian.

Couldn't you pray people out of purgatory? Didn't the church take money to help move loved one out of purgatory?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#406765 Dec 3, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing but the blood of Jesus!
What happened to all the people who lived before jesus died?

What happened to the billions of people who died after jesus, but never heard one word about him?

Can you imagine, 1 billion Chinese, standing at judgment day, "What?! No one told us!? We are damned to Hell because no one told us about jesus??! WTF?"

The Mayans, "Yeah, WTF?"

The Australian Aborigines, "Hey! Why didn't you tell us?"

jesus, "You did not know me in life, so I do not know you now?"

Chinese man, "Well, you're the f'cking god! You could have made the introductions, but no... you only wanted to tour a few towns in the Middle_East. Too cold in Peking for ya?"

Someday, you may see how silly your beliefs are.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406766 Dec 3, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
What happened to all the people who lived before jesus died?
What happened to the billions of people who died after jesus, but never heard one word about him?
Can you imagine, 1 billion Chinese, standing at judgment day, "What?! No one told us!? We are damned to Hell because no one told us about jesus??! WTF?"
The Mayans, "Yeah, WTF?"
The Australian Aborigines, "Hey! Why didn't you tell us?"
jesus, "You did not know me in life, so I do not know you now?"
Chinese man, "Well, you're the f'cking god! You could have made the introductions, but no... you only wanted to tour a few towns in the Middle_East. Too cold in Peking for ya?"
Someday, you may see how silly your beliefs are.
Someday you'll wish you had listened. You have been told about Him.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406767 Dec 4, 2012
When Jesus died on the cross,He said,"IT IS FINISHED." (John 19:30) Jesus COMPLETED the work of redemption at the cross. No puratory is needed for those who trust in Christ. First John 1:7 declares, "The blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from ALL SIN", Romans8:1 says,"
there is NOW no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." We are cleansed NOT by the "fire of purgatory", but by the blood of Jesus(Hebrews 9:14). Jesus"Himself is the propitiation for our sins"(1John 2:2). It is through Jesus' work on the cross that we are made righteous (2 Cor. 5:21). The apostle Paul spoke of himself as "not having a righteous of his own, derived from the Law, but that which is through FAITH in Christ, the righteousnes which comes from God on the basis of faith." (Philippians 3:9). It is through the wonderful work of Christ on the cross that believers are "blamesell", and hence they have no need of an imagined purgatory(Jude 1:24).
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#406768 Dec 4, 2012
By one offering He has (perfected for all time) those who are sanctfied".(Heb. 10:14)
No further purging is neccessary because Christ has perfected 'for all time' those who have believed in Him.
THAT WHICH IS ALREADY PERFECT "FOR ALL TIME" NEEDS NO FURTHER PURGING.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#406769 Dec 4, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Someday you'll wish you had listened. You have been told about Him.
You avoid the questions, Why? Because to answer them would bring to light your stupidity! Be a Man! Face reality.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#406770 Dec 4, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="7th Day Catholics Rock" He most certainly hated Essau now didn't he.
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We have to study the language of the Bible to understand. English can't always express the exact meaning. When Jesus mentioned 'hating' one's family for His sake, the word 'hate' meant to 'love less'.
KayMarie
Yeppers like with Persy putting his self and charfacter above the nature of the creator......lol........I continued the post but thanks any way.
Loren Eberly

Mount Vernon, OH

#406771 Dec 4, 2012
Fiscal Cliff and Budget:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service of paying all taxes White House and Congress levies on them. And workers, consumers, and taxpayer are paying all taxes. With money derived from wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

Workers, consumers, and taxpayers also pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream to fund schools. Pay bank interest on purchase price of American Dream for 30 years. Pay interest on lottery winners winnings Legislators invest in school bonds, Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

President, the Justices they appoint and Congress purging all laws of segregation, discrimination, extortion, and fraud. And holding every worker, consumer, and taxpayer accountable to get an agreement (union contract) with every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church agreeing; to market the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of workers, consumers and taxpayers paying all taxes; and paying for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages (union contract), investment and independent business profit.

Would enable President and Congress to evade fiscal cliff and balance every budget.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#406772 Dec 4, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
What happened to all the people who lived before jesus died? What happened to the billions of people who died after jesus, but never heard one word about him? Can you imagine, 1 billion Chinese, standing at judgment day, "What?! No one told us!? We are damned to Hell because no one told us about jesus??! WTF?" The Mayans, "Yeah, WTF?" The Australian Aborigines, "Hey! Why didn't you tell us?" jesus, "You did not know me in life, so I do not know you now?" Chinese man, "Well, you're the f'cking god! You could have made the introductions, but no... you only wanted to tour a few towns in the Middle_East. Too cold in Peking for ya?" Someday, you may see how silly your beliefs are.
05Dec12.....

.....while you oftenTimes quote the Old Testament to 'your' advantage as you are a hateful, hypocritical, hAtheist....why don'tCha readUP on the New Testament and STOP pestering posters with your assassinine questions.

In da case of da Chinks, dey deserved to suffer a little....as you do also.

Ps:.....You remain a schidt-for-brains.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Clay

Chicago, IL

#406773 Dec 4, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>So you believe that PURGATORY os a place where you can go to pay your own sin debt by your own suffering. If only God had known about that, He could have spared His only Son.
Please don't tell us what we believe Purgatory is.

Look at Purgatory as a process, instead of a place. You and I are going through that process as we speak. And it will continue after we die in order to cleanse ourselves. "Nothing unclean shall enter Heaven" Revelation 21:27
Purgatory might be minutes for some and days for others- although time as we understand it, ceases to exist after death.

You're not clean enough to automatically be in the presence of God in Heaven, 4gvn. But you are not bad enough for eternal separation in hell.
So now what? You think you are without blemish along with all the other born agains? I'm being serious.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#406774 Dec 4, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>You must of not kept reading the continued reply.........lol
Can't catch all of them....too many....
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#406775 Dec 4, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks Truth.Praise Christ!!!
AMEN!!!

Keep building your strength up....

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#406776 Dec 4, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Please don't tell us what we believe Purgatory is.
Look at Purgatory as a process, instead of a place. You and I are going through that process as we speak. And it will continue after we die in order to cleanse ourselves. "Nothing unclean shall enter Heaven" Revelation 21:27
Purgatory might be minutes for some and days for others- although time as we understand it, ceases to exist after death.
You're not clean enough to automatically be in the presence of God in Heaven, 4gvn. But you are not bad enough for eternal separation in hell.
So now what? You think you are without blemish along with all the other born agains? I'm being serious.
BOLLOCKS.
'Purgatory' does NOT exist. JESUS completed HIS work. We don;t need any romanist crap about an imaginary place or state of 'purging', KNOWING Jesus did it ALL.
You're merely spouting romanist lies.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#406777 Dec 4, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
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I'd give you a 'heart', but apparently the icons upset 4BDN. I don't normally use them since they're so childish, but now that I know they get under his skin, I could learn to like them...a lot!
^^^^^^Which merely proves how hate-filled and childish you are, madam... You falsely claim to be a Christian, yet you go out of your way to annoy someone else.
Very telling about you, but what can we expect? You're a romanist...
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#406778 Dec 4, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Good morning, Preston,
I like you, too, Preston...you know how I feel about you...zealous for the Lord....
When I speak the word "power," listen to these verses:
Matthew 3:11
11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more <<<<<powerful >>>>> than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with [[[[[the Holy Spirit and fire.]]]]]
***powerful - Holy Spirit and fire
Mark 1:6-7
7 And this was his message:“After me comes the one more <<<<<powerful >>>>> than I, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie.
8 I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with [[[[[the Holy Spirit.”]]]]]
***powerful - Holy Spirit
Luke 3:16
16 John answered them all,“I baptize you with water. But one who is more <<<<<powerful >>>>> than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with [[[[[the Holy Spirit and fire.]]]]]
***powerful - Holy Spirit and fire
Luke 24:49
49 I am going to ~SEND~ you what my Father has ~PROMISED;~ but STAY in the city until you have been clothed with ~POWER~ from on high.”
***stay in the city - clothed with POWER from on high
Acts 1:2
2 until the day he was taken up to heaven,~~~~~after giving instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen.~~~~~
***after giving instructions through the Holy Spirit - APOSTLES
Acts 1:4
4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command:“Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.
***COMMAND - DO NOT LEAVE - stay - gift my Father promised - power - SPEAK ABOUT
Acts 1:5
5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”
***few days - baptized with the Holy Spirit
Acts 1:8
8 But you ~WILL~ receive <<<<<POWER >>>>> when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
***will receive power - when the Holy Spirit comes on you
THIS IS WHAT THE APOSTLES WHERE WAITING FOR.....
Acts 2:1-4
1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place.
2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting.
3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them.
4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.(POWER)
Acts 4:33
33 With great <<<<<power >>>>> the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all
***great POWER - apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus - WITNESSES - God's grace POWERFULLY at work IN THEM ALL
Acts 6:8
8 Now Stephen, a man full of God’s grace and <<<<<power,> >>>> [[[[[performed great wonders and signs among the people.]]]]]
***POWER - performed great WONDERS and SIGNS among the people
Acts 9:22
22 Yet Saul grew more and more <<<<<powerful >>>>> and baffled the Jews living in Damascus by proving that Jesus is the Messiah.
***Saul - more and more POWERFUL
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A chosen few obtain this kind of 'POWER' from God...
Now, look at John the Baptist....
John 10:41
41 and many people came to him. They said,“Though John never performed a sign, all that John said about this man was true.”
***John NEVER performed a sign....
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Just explaining myself concerning the word 'POWER' in which we DO NOT receive this kind of power at baptism today....
Nothing to argue about...discussing the Word of God...any time...
I pray people will make the connection....
Interesting....

Someone thinks that the Word of God is clueless...

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#406779 Dec 4, 2012
hojo wrote:
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The TRUTH needs to be repeated over and over and over again until THAT TRUTH begins to sink in to those of you bible only Protestants who are the "repeat story" the Prodigal Son in Luke 15:11 defiant, rebellious and hostile----that is (of course) until--"he finally came to his senses"! There still may be hope for you "since you Confrinting, Orville, 4GVN, and many others------ are still only half-way there!!!
YOUR problem is, you don't speak THE TRUTH. You speak the lies of romanism.
Your brainwashing is so clearly evident, it's pathetic.
And your arrogance speaks for itself, romanist.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#406780 Dec 4, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this something that God/Jesus would say about His creation?
Hate is a mighty strong word.....
Does God hate us, 4GVN???
Hmmmmm.....
I thought it was SIN that God hates...
Man, I am on a roll with the clueless icons...lol....

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#406781 Dec 4, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, but are you gonna do it?
the first thing that God impresses on sinners like you is to Repent and sin no more.
no matter what you and your other fellers on this forum think,you aint right with God, and lying is still a sin
'sinners like YOU'.... hahaha!! Obviously you fail to recognize YOUR OWN SINS, pressie...
What a hypocrite.

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