So sorry Michael....I don't use a confessional...but you are welcome to use one if you so desire....<quoted text>
I do not live my life depending on quotes from the bible.
If going 5 mph over the speed limit is a sin then thats about all I have done wrong in the last while.
If you have sin, why not share it with us? You are willing to share it with a stranger in the confessional, why not share it with us, your friends?
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#405716 Nov 29, 2012
#405717 Nov 29, 2012
Sorry, KayMarie, they won't believe you though....
#405718 Nov 29, 2012
And why happens when you follow a different gospel message.....
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel
7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
In which you refuse to believe that you are following a different gospel....
#405719 Nov 29, 2012
It is called being a disciple of Christ...a follower of Christ......
You are the one being dishonest with yourself....
#405720 Nov 29, 2012
Do you know how many times OSAS followers slung that bible verse at me? My heart wants to believe they didn't know it had nothing to do with OSAS. But I'm not so sure. Some of ya don't have a problem with manipulating scripture to win an argument because you think its for the greater good.
The 'greater good' of course would be saving of Catholics from the Catholic Church. Too bad everyone has to lie to accomplish this.
#405721 Nov 29, 2012
TRUTH hurts doesn't it.....lol....
Satan's temptations or attacks.....
4 Skin for skin! Satan replied.A man will give all he has for his own life.
5 But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.
6 The Lord said to Satan,Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.
7 So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head.
9 His wife said to him,Are you still maintaining your integrity? Curse God and die!
10 He replied,You are talking like a foolish woman. Shall we accept good from God, and not trouble?
In all this, Job did not sin in what he said.
#405722 Nov 29, 2012
Common on 4GVN...you still don't know what the gospel is besides the good news....
That's Bible 101...
#405723 Nov 29, 2012
Still haven't figured it out yet, I see...
#405724 Nov 29, 2012
Sorry.....this makes no sense...
What is baptism for??? Forgiveness of sins...wash away your sins....
So if you are baptized as an infant...what sins have you committed???? Plus, you MUST CONFESS with YOUR MOUTH...how can an infant do that.....
So as you grow and get older and SIN, what happens with these sins???? You retain them and still in a lost state....outside of Christ.....
And, you are IN NEED to be BAPTIZED for the forgiveness of your sins.....BURIED WITH HIM IN BAPTISM....INTO HIS DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION....does an infant have the knowledge of how IMPORTANT this ACTION is????
#405725 Nov 29, 2012
I may not understand the morality behind it, but if the Bible is unerring, then I must agree.
Now I just have to rationalize the (supposed) immorality of slavery and why neither Father nor Son spoke out against it.
I can do that.
#405726 Nov 29, 2012
Think about it....if we have NOT crucified the flesh, we are not of Christ.
#405727 Nov 29, 2012
Praise the Lord!!!
We are so glad that you are feeling better, Hermi...
You will still be in our prayers....
#405728 Nov 29, 2012
When have I lied Clay...show me.
#405729 Nov 29, 2012
The Catholic Church is most certainly dictated my popular opinion or cultural influence.
Admittedly, it does so slowly and with caution.
Over 50,000 "carefully investigated" annulments in the USA alone. That's a 1000% change from just 50 years ago.
Vatican 2 was a huge change. Heck, even Protestants can be saved. That's a 100% change in former stated doctrine (Papal Bulls and Vatican Counsels).
Have the rituals and sacraments remained unchanged? There have certainly been fundamental changes in the Mass. Lay women can now deliver and administer the Eucharist!
You shouldn't fret too much about the changes. But denial is absurd.
#405730 Nov 29, 2012
You're reading the bible thru the eyes of Protestantism. Read it thru the eyes of the Catholic Church. You will see its not meant to be a word for word literal translation. In fact, it never was like that until some knuckle heads came along and took our Bible and beat us over the head with it. These people are nomads.
The books that make up the Bible are inspired by God (we believe), using human thought with divine insights . The writers used LANGUAGE AND CULTURE from their own time period to paint a picture of God for the reader. Slavery is mentioned at times, simply because people around that time had slaves. The writer mentioned slaves because that was the normal speak.
God chose to let humanity figure out that slavery was wrong. In His eyes, we're all slaves anyway. Slaves to sin.
#405731 Nov 29, 2012
I don't believe you have lied on this forum, to my knowledge.
Others have used that same verse to prove that people we *thought* were saved, really weren't.
So they can still justify OSAS.
#405732 Nov 29, 2012
We are called by the gospel...
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly <<<DESERTING> >> the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel
OSAS is false teachings....
#405733 Nov 29, 2012
That's minor changes. The Mass is the same in structure and substance since the first Century, when the Apostles taught it. You'll never see the Church eliminate the Liturgy of the Eucharist because people think its to boring or don't want to kneel. I guarantee you Protestant Churches will take a vote on it.
#405734 Nov 29, 2012
Now, Clay, look at these verses:
1 Timothy 4:1-3
4 The SPIRIT clearly SAYS that in later times some will <<<ABANDON the FAITH>>> and ~follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.~
2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.
OSAS is false teachings....
#405735 Nov 29, 2012
If someone uses a verse of scripture and believes with all their heart it's truth, that is not lying.
I don't think you know the difference.
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