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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665486 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#405858 Nov 29, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Sometimes, I wonder; are you a poe, a troll, a fundie, or just heavily indoctrinated.
To tell me that I do not have morals or that I hate 'morality' laws or god, is just plain stupid. Not just a little bit stupid; way over the top stupid.
"Some people are put off by the thought of having a "good friend". And they don't know how to respond..."
Stupidity Part II.
Who? Just because they don't like you?
No matter what words you try to impress with, your statements prove you true lack of intelligence. You wear your vocabulary like a mask; unfortunately, your mask has your true identity written all over it. You act as if you are disguising your obvious stupidity.
TBS

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I don't know what a poe is....I thought you meant Edgar Allen,(smile)?

I was addressing Michael about something and you seem to take it personally, and you really seem upset at me. Thats okay. Don't be afraid to talk with me.

In general it takes awhile to get some knowledge and understanding going between people....

The more we talk, the more specific I can get....

I saw you came on this thread after a bit of an absence. I am sorry but the way things went with us, I didn't think you cared much about talking with me....

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#405859 Nov 29, 2012
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you so much ,Pad, for your kind words.From the heart thank all of you that pryed for me. I had a very close call. My wife kept me up yo date on who0 here were praying for me, who here was emailing her, etc, and helped me immensely to get through.I still am on oxygen, but I am home. he lung disease I have is not as serious as what the previous doctors diagnosed.At first the other doctor thought I had contracted something rare that can get progressively worse and can often be terminal.The disease they diagnosed is not terminal though it has a pretty long period of rehabilitation.
This is the fourth life our Saviour has given me. First when I was born, second when I was told I had cancer, the third was this last bout, and the fourth, most important life He gave me was a new life in Him.
Its hard to express my gratitude to so many. Please know that I know each of your kindnesses and that they filled my heart.
Please know that the Lord, our God and Saviour is very real. Thank you Son of David for having mercy on me a sinner.May the uthor of Life cotinue to shed His mercy and compassionate bliessinmgs on you all.
Hermi
Peace

So glad. I am so glad for you.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#405860 Nov 29, 2012
Clay wrote:
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You're reading the bible thru the eyes of Protestantism. Read it thru the eyes of the Catholic Church. You will see its not meant to be a word for word literal translation. In fact, it never was like that until some knuckle heads came along and took our Bible and beat us over the head with it. These people are nomads.
The books that make up the Bible are inspired by God (we believe), using human thought with divine insights . The writers used LANGUAGE AND CULTURE from their own time period to paint a picture of God for the reader. Slavery is mentioned at times, simply because people around that time had slaves. The writer mentioned slaves because that was the normal speak.
God chose to let humanity figure out that slavery was wrong. In His eyes, we're all slaves anyway. Slaves to sin.
Yeah yeah yeah! Hear it all before. If the bible is not the word of god and just some nomads' story, why do you believe like you do?

Think about it. How many groups have written or told stories about their gods? Do you believe them? Do you give their gods respect? Do you follow their gods' laws?

No, you laugh at their stupidity. LOL! The world was populated by a snake! LOL! Those damned fools! LOL!

1 The Four Creations
2 Odin and Ymir
3 The Separation of Heaven and Earth
4 The Story of Corn and Medicine
5 The Origin of Japan and Her People
6 Death, and Life and Death
7 The Creation and the Emergence
8 Creation by and of the Self
9 Marduk Creates the World from the Spoils of Battle
10 The Golden Chain
11 The Menominee and Manabush
12 The Naba Zid-Wendé
13 Pan Gu and Nü Wa
14 Yahweh
15 The Elohim
16 A Potawatomi Story
17 Birth in the Dawn
18 Life from Moon and the Stars
19 Two Brothers and their Grandmother
20 The Moon and the Morning Star

Your story is just a silly as any of the others.

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#405861 Nov 29, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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The Bible says.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Do you concur?
TBS

Do you concur?

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#405862 Nov 29, 2012
Truth wrote:
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Yes, because of his belief and repentance, I believe Jesus saved him (forgiving his sins) as Jesus had the authority to forgive sins on earth.....
Truth good friend

:)

“cdesign proponentsists”

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Pittsburgh, PA

#405863 Nov 29, 2012
Robert F wrote:
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TBS
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I don't know what a poe is....I thought you meant Edgar Allen,(smile)?
I was addressing Michael about something and you seem to take it personally, and you really seem upset at me. Thats okay. Don't be afraid to talk with me.
In general it takes awhile to get some knowledge and understanding going between people....
The more we talk, the more specific I can get....
I saw you came on this thread after a bit of an absence. I am sorry but the way things went with us, I didn't think you cared much about talking with me....
Upset?!? Afraid?!?! With someone who has no influence on my life. I wouldn't waste the energy. I will waste enough energy to laugh at you and call you an idiot.

Now, you made a very stupid statement. In fact, you made several. I don't need to know too much about you to say, "That was f'ing stupid!"

Saying things like, "I hate your god.", "I cannot be moral or if I am, I got my morals from your god." or "I hate being moral.", is pretty damn stupid. I don't feel any emotion from your writings.

I am a bit confused. I am trying to figure out if you are stupid or if you are playing stupid. A good vocabulary, accurate spelling and grammar do not mean that you are intelligent or educated, just means that you are good at those things.

Your statements are you credentials.

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#405864 Nov 29, 2012
Truth wrote:
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Robert,
Sorry.....this makes no sense...
What is baptism for??? Forgiveness of sins...wash away your sins....
So if you are baptized as an infant...what sins have you committed???? Plus, you MUST CONFESS with YOUR MOUTH...how can an infant do that.....
So as you grow and get older and SIN, what happens with these sins???? You retain them and still in a lost state....outside of Christ.....
And, you are IN NEED to be BAPTIZED for the forgiveness of your sins.....BURIED WITH HIM IN BAPTISM....INTO HIS DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION....does an infant have the knowledge of how IMPORTANT this ACTION is????
Common now....
Truth good friend

When one is baptised in water, aren't sins washed away?

That inludes, past, present, and future....How far into the past?

Two questions:

What about original sin?(Isn't it in the nature of fallen man to sin?)

When does one start to sin after they are born.? Day one, day 8, day 10...?

I think where I am going with these questions is that it is the Grace of God that saves.

Another way to put it is that God's Faithfulness is vaster than the Creation, and man's faithfulness is at best but a mustard seed....

Why can't you believe that a baby cannot be baptised and saved? Have the faith of a mustard seed?

Do you think it is the water that washes sins away?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

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"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#405865 Nov 29, 2012
Michael wrote:
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If God as you claim is the creator of all, than God created the devil.
ps are there daily services at your church?
There are services on Sunday AM. and PM Wednesday PM.

the Ethnic group is there on Thursday PM.

God did create Lucifer...and he rebelled against God.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#405866 Nov 29, 2012
Father Free Mind wrote:
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Thank you for staying on topic.
"... ye shall know them by their deeds."
Jesus certainly did NOT lead the Vatican to issue an official statement a few years ago -- about how the child sex-abuse scandal was an invention of the American media.
Logic 101....
If Jesus really appointed and guides an institution which systematically covered up world-wide child sex abuse for so, so long -- then what does that say about Jesus?
I refuse to believe that the Jesus of the Jefferson Bible is such a creep, no mater what Catholics insist.
Don't the hate logic!?!? LOL! Especially when you can use the bible to prove how unchristlike they are!

“cdesign proponentsists”

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#405867 Nov 29, 2012
Father Free Mind wrote:
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I agree.
I may not understand the morality behind it, but if the Bible is unerring, then I must agree.
Now I just have to rationalize the (supposed) immorality of slavery and why neither Father nor Son spoke out against it.
I can do that.
Rationalization is the key! How can I rationalize slavery, rape and murder? And after I do that, how can I convince the Atheists that they are evil?
Free Mind

Eaton Park, FL

#405868 Nov 29, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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You are a bit of a thickie, aren't you?
Why am I against murder? Let's pretend that you sincerely need an answer for that.
1. I don't want to be murdered.
2. I don't want my family to be murdered.
3. I don't want my friends to be murdered.
4. I don't want people I know to be murdered.
5. I don't want strangers to be murdered.
Oh! You wanted me to say, cause god said not to murder, right? But then I can quote many parts of the bible were your god demanded that people be murdered.
The bible is cool! You can justify any horror that you want, just by knowing the proper verse, from the proper translation.
Sadly, so can everyone else.
Without the benefit of the Bible, how did the ancient Greeks know that murder was immoral?

How did the Chinese know? How did the rest of Asia know?

How did any civilization ever form and grow, without the benefit of the Bible?

And if the Bible is such a good source of morality, why do Catholic-majority countries have the highest murder rates in the world?

I'm so confused.

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#405869 Nov 29, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Upset?!? Afraid?!?! With someone who has no influence on my life. I wouldn't waste the energy. I will waste enough energy to laugh at you and call you an idiot.
Now, you made a very stupid statement. In fact, you made several. I don't need to know too much about you to say, "That was f'ing stupid!"
Saying things like, "I hate your god.", "I cannot be moral or if I am, I got my morals from your god." or "I hate being moral.", is pretty damn stupid. I don't feel any emotion from your writings.
I am a bit confused. I am trying to figure out if you are stupid or if you are playing stupid. A good vocabulary, accurate spelling and grammar do not mean that you are intelligent or educated, just means that you are good at those things.
Your statements are you credentials.
TBS

Thank you.

I try to keep my grammer, rhetoric, and logic when writing....Its part of the liberal arts....

By the way, I still don't know what a poe is?

I think, as I was writing Michael you noticed I wrote something about atheists concerning moral law..., true? If it is not, then your mind is imagining something I wrote directly to you....

By the way, something you might like to try is a bit of temperance in your writing. It would go a long way in strengthening the character of your views. You would be respected a bit more as well....But its your choice.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#405870 Nov 29, 2012
Robert F wrote:
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TBS
Do you concur?
There you go! How can anyone take you seriously when you say the dumbest things?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#405871 Nov 29, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>God did create Lucifer...and he rebelled against God.
No, man created both lucy and god.

“cdesign proponentsists”

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Pittsburgh, PA

#405872 Nov 29, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
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Without the benefit of the Bible, how did the ancient Greeks know that murder was immoral?
How did the Chinese know? How did the rest of Asia know?
How did any civilization ever form and grow, without the benefit of the Bible?
And if the Bible is such a good source of morality, why do Catholic-majority countries have the highest murder rates in the world?
I'm so confused.
Me too! How could it be?
Free Mind

Eaton Park, FL

#405874 Nov 29, 2012
Clay wrote:
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The last time God revealed Himself (as one of us) we tortured and killed Him.
If He appeared in the sky tomorrow, people will look to the Vatican for answers, trust me .
Then, most likely, WWIII will break out because Muslims will think God Just gave the sign to attack Israel. Atheist will say it wasn't a sign at all, but just a natural event.(Fatima 1917)
OMG!!! Not Fatima again?

The Church wanted to get rid of Communism. Hitler had just invaded Russia, so the Vatican concocted an absurd story that would curry favor with Mussolini, his pal Hitler, and hopefully help their mutual cause.

So they made up an absurd story that upon inspection, makes Mary sound like a narcissistic slut -- and you believe it!!! Shame on you for ever thinking Mary would be so self-centered as to say:

"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI."

Pleeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz!!! World devotion to ME, or World War Two?

The humble and devoted young Jewish girl of the Bible would NEVER say such a thing.

Shame on you and the RCC!!!!

“cdesign proponentsists”

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#405875 Nov 29, 2012
Robert F wrote:
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TBS
Thank you.
I try to keep my grammer, rhetoric, and logic when writing....Its part of the liberal arts....
By the way, I still don't know what a poe is?
I think, as I was writing Michael you noticed I wrote something about atheists concerning moral law..., true? If it is not, then your mind is imagining something I wrote directly to you....
By the way, something you might like to try is a bit of temperance in your writing. It would go a long way in strengthening the character of your views. You would be respected a bit more as well....But its your choice.
I wonder... How does one find out something that they don't know? Maybe a little research would do the trick? Naw! Maybe some self-adulation would work?

Why would I worry about what you think of my writings? You don't seem to worry too much about what the bible says; unless of course it agrees with your point of view, then it is as if god is speaking directly to you! But if you do not like it; then there is something wrong with the reader, the translation, or some other such bullshit.

No worries. I will just quote your god.

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

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#405876 Nov 29, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Truth wrote:
If you can’t lose your salvation, why is Satan STILL tempting you today??????????
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Citation please.
....Or probably more accurately, this will be another post that you skip by, or change the topic, or some other diversion tactic to avoid answering.
In honesty, you should change your name to one that is more appropriate for your responses.
<quoted text>
Yep - avoiding the question with more non-answers.
FYI - the Book of Job basically shows us how "God" and "Satan" like to play with humans as toys and part of their game.
If one lets it happen, it probably will.
If one strives to succeed without these character's involved, one will realize that they will.
But the funny thing about the success, the person will probably give credit to "God" and if they failed, they seem to not give the credit to "Satan". Why is that?
A: because they know deep down inside that that failure was of their own making and doing. Nothing more or nothing less.
But being a so-called "Christian", you have a false sense of security through men, that has caused this.
In a nutshell, your dishonesty will only cause more hatred of others.
IMO - you sound as if "Satan" has "his" grip around you and hasn't let go.
NASL good friend

lol

How so very wrong you have the Book of Job!

How so very blind, that you put God and Satan, playing a game, as equals!

Gnosticism at its best is the worst sort of darkness....
Free Mind

Eaton Park, FL

#405877 Nov 29, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Me too! How could it be?
I don't know.

Maybe one of the deeply enlightened ones can explain it -- how civilizations from Ancient Greece and China to today could possibly figure out that murder is immoral -- without the benefit of the Bible.

Deep.

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#405878 Nov 29, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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I can understnd this, because I also believe there is no god that controls this world - only men do.
Unfortunately, many a man, believe that one does, even though they can never explain why, if such a god exists, "He" doesn't stop wars, famine, poverty, homelessness, murder, kids freezing to death trying to get home, etc.
They would just rather blame it on men, even though out of the other side of their mouth, they say "God" created us.
They are so confused in their belief, they only believe what they do, because they want to be part of a larger lie.
Shoot - if honesty is a good example - it is far and few between with the posters on this forum, barring any recent posters sincerity (i.e "Clay").
NASL

If God created a circle, then it can't be a square.
If God created a stick, then it must have two ends.
If God created free-will, then there must be good and bad.

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