Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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preston

Waverly, OH

#404158 Nov 22, 2012
I could literally write an entire book on the lies and false doctrines contained just in these two preceding paragraphs I’ve quoted to you. Wow, what a bunch of damnable heresies! Let’s take a closer look these SDA teachings and compare them to what the Word of God teaches. In John 5:39 Jesus commanded for us to… SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES!!! Let’s do so now.



The first thing I want to point out, which SDAs won’t, is that their religion DIDN’T exist until a wayward Baptist preacher by the name of Miller prophesied that the Lord would return in 1844, but He didn’t. 10,000 followers of Miller had sold their homes, given away all their earthly possessions, and were utterly disappointed when Jesus didn’t return in 1844. To save face, someone suggested that perhaps Miller had misunderstood the Bible, and the expected event had instead taken place in heaven. This is what they settled upon. Thus, a new religion was birthed and given the name in 1860 of Seventh-day Adventism.

There is absolutely nothing in the Bible to support such a bizarre claim by SDAs. By manipulating numbers and dates in the Bible, one can predict just about anything. Jehovah’s Witnesses have their own little cute way of ripping apart the Bible to make their false doctrines fit. SDAs have done the same thing, i.e., they have corrupted the Word of God in order to accommodate their false teachings.

It is very important to realize that SDA did not exist prior to Miller’s failed prophecy. If, as SDAs claim, the Bible teaches that the Lord would return in 1844, then why did only Miller and his followers believe this? The very manner in which the SDA religion came into existence is irrefutable proof that they are a manmade false religion.

Page 15 of the SDA Church Manual states:“In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry.” There is absolutely nothing in the Word of God teaching such nonsense. You can search the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and you won’t find anything about a “second phase” of Jesus’ atonement ministry. Even more bizarre is the ridiculous claim that the second phase began in 1844. Why hasn’t anyone, from any other religion, interpreted the Bible in such a way? It is only SDAs who make such bizarre claims, because their founders were made the laughing stock of an entire nation when Jesus failed to return in 1844.

Page 15 of the SDA Church Manual states:“It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin…” SDAs are liars. 1st John 1:7 states:“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” It is Jesus’ precious blood that washes away our sins, and nothing else. SDAs teach that Jesus’ blood sacrifice is insufficient by itself to pay for our sins; teaching instead that a separate work which Christ began in the year 1844 A.D. is absolutely essential to one’s salvation. This bizarre doctrine is nowhere taught in the Bible.

Page 15 and 16 of the SDA Church Manual states:“The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting Kingdom.” This plainly teaches works salvation. No one is worthy of salvation. SDAs teach that in order to enter into God’s everlasting Kingdom, the prerequisites of abiding in Christ and keeping God’s commandments must first be met. This is self-righteousness and a sure road to Hell.
preston

Waverly, OH

#404159 Nov 22, 2012
Page 16 further states:“This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the Kingdom.” In other words, by our good works we prove that we are worthy of the salvation which was freely given in Christ. But what about those believers who commit horrible sins, deliberately disobey the commandments of God, fail to remain loyal, and follow Christ afar off? You see, SDA only works for those who are self-righteous. According to SDA doctrine, a person who lives in sin and fails to abide in Christ cannot go to Heaven. Clearly, the life one lives is a part of saving faith in the SDA religion.
Seventh-day Adventists Call God a Liar
The mythical doctrine of “Investigative Judgment” is based upon the idea of Christ analyzing each person’s life and trying to determine who is “worthy” to enter the Kingdom of God. In sharp contrast, the Word of God makes a PROMISE to every repentant sinner who calls upon the name of the Lord…“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved”(Romans 10:13). Whereas the Word of God promises salvation to anyone who trusts upon the name of Jesus for salvation; SDA teaches that there is NO guarantee of salvation until Christ’s work of Investigative Judgment is complete. SDAs are calling God a liar. Whereas 1st John 5:13 says that believers can “KNOW” they have eternal life; SDAs teach that only Christ knows who is truly worthy to enter the Kingdom.
In the Bible, salvation is based upon God’s unconditional love for sinful mankind (Romans 5:8), which caused Him to send His only begotten Son into the world to pay for our sins (John 3:16); but in SDA, salvation is based upon our loyalty to God, our faithfulness to keep God’s commandments, whether or not we abide in Christ, and then of course, our faith. SDAs speak double-talk. They profess to trust completely in Jesus Christ for salvation; while simultaneously claiming that one’s loyalty to God is a critical factor in salvation.
This is very similar to the damnable Calvinist doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints, which teaches that those who are genuinely saved will continue in the faith. Thus, in effect, holy living is required to keep one’s salvation. The problem with such sanctimonious thinking is that it ignores the Biblical reality of babes of Christ (i.e., immature believers) and backslidden believers. The Bible is filled with examples of believers who committed horrible sins, failed to remain loyal to God, failed to keep God’s commandments, failed to abide in Christ; yet, they were saved as by fire (1st Corinthians 3:15). Thank God, our salvation is not dependent upon anything we can do; but rather, upon what Jesus did at Calvary. Our part is simply to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31). Salvation is of God; not man. Eternal life is a “free gift” from God (Romans 5:15; 6:23; Revelation 22:17). Salvation is receiving; not giving.
God has promised to save anyone who believes on the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 10:13). SDAs are liars to teach a conditional type of salvation based upon one’s loyalty to God. Such doctrine is self-righteousness, which God condemns (Romans 10:3,4).
Ellen G. White and Freemasonry
Photo to Right: Founder of 7th Day Adventism, Ellen G. White's Tomb Stone. Notice the Illuminati symbol. Obelisks represent Freemasonry, clearly evidenced by the Washington Monument. George Washington was a 33rd Degree Freemason.
Ellen G. White (November 26, 1827 — July 16, 1915) is only vaguely mentioned in the preface of the SDA Church Manual. Without prophetess Ellen G. White there would be no SDA Church; however, SDAs seek to avoid the issue because Ellen G. White’s life was saturated with damnable New Age heresies and bizarre experiences. SDAs revere White’s writings as being equally inspired with the Bible.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi...
Live Action

Edmond, OK

#404160 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>God never said that I would be liked in fact just the opposite.
he said the World hated me first, so it will hate you too.
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
john 15:18.
I wonder what kind of reception that you would receive if I posted some posts about you on another forum when you use the nick of yadahim?
you make charles manson look like a prison superindent
post what you would like fred....you are still worshiping a man made god.....and to be honest i'm not to even talk with a god worshiper....you are way behind.post away......
preston

Waverly, OH

#404161 Nov 22, 2012
Conclusion



Throughout this article I have referred to the Seventh-day Adventist religion with the acronym SDA; but I think SAD is a better term, because there is nothing SADDER than the SDA religion. In fact, it’s pathetically reprehensible. On page 16 of the SDA Church Manual, it states:“The completion of this ministry of Christ will mark the close of human probation before the Second Advent.”… Probation? Since when are born-again Christians on probation with God? This is the BIG LIE of Seventh-day Adventism—on the surface they profess to trust Jesus Christ, saying that Jesus’ blood is what takes our sins away, and claiming that they believe faith is all that is necessary for salvation; BUT IN REALITY, they believe that they’re on “probation” with God, and that the life they live is taken into serious consideration by the Lord, in determining whether or not they are worthy of salvation.



The SDAs I have conversed with in the past were in denial. SDAs strongly deny trusting works for salvation; but simultaneously fail to realize (or refused to admit) that the very doctrine of “Investigative Judgment” is saturated in self-righteousness and works salvation. The very notion that Christ’s work of redemption is still not finished, and that the life we live is being examined by Christ as part of His investigative work of atonement is demonic to the core. The life we live has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not we go to Heaven when we die. Eternal life is a “free gift”(Romans 5:15), paid for by Jesus’ literal, physical, precious blood (1st Peter 1:18,19; Hebrews 9:12). To be saved, a person need only realize their guilt of sin (Romans 3:19), being condemned under God’s Holy Law, and turn by faith to Jesus Christ to be saved and forgiven (Acts 10:43). SDAs talk a good talk; but their official doctrinal statement condemns them.



Interestingly, I couldn’t find anything about Hell or the Lake of Fire in the SDA Church Manual; in spite of the preponderance of doctrines covered in the book. Clearly they don’t believe in Hell. On page 190, the book states that the wicked will be resurrected at the end of the 1,000-year Millennium and then will be “consumed” by the same fire that God is going to use to cleanse the earth. In sharp contrast, the Bible teaches in Revelation 20:11-15 that the unsaved will be cast into the Lake of Fire forever; not consumed.



Miller messed up in 1844. You’d think today, after 164 years, that someone would finally give in and admit THEY WERE WRONG! Talk about an ego trip. SDAs have stubbornly refused to admit they’ve been wrong for the past 164 years. I think that’s a new Guinness World Record of some sort.



SDA is of the Devil—a manmade (or should I say “womanmade”) religion birthed out of confusion, panic and false doctrine. The big question is this—why follow any religion? Jesus never started a religion. Why cannot we just “SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES” as Jesus commanded in John 5:39? Religion is the worst thing that’s ever happened to this dark and dreary world of sin. Salvation is NOT found in any religion; but in a person—The Lord Jesus Christ …“To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins”(Acts 10:43).

preston

Waverly, OH

#404162 Nov 22, 2012
Live Action wrote:
<quoted text>post what you would like fred....you are still worshiping a man made god.....and to be honest i'm not to even talk with a god worshiper....you are way behind.post away......
what ever you say, knowing him.

what about the burro, any truth to that?LOL

Since: Nov 12

Hamilton, Canada

#404163 Nov 22, 2012
i agree; it is the church; but it is not the Body Yahusha was referring to; according to scripture.
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When Mashiach said he was building his assembly on this kepha/rock (which is Shimon's special name given by Yahusha) he was talking about the type of people he would build his body of believers with; people ready to obey and bold in action. He was not establishing the Roman Catholic Church; or giving away his authority as head of the assembly. According to YahshaYahu/Isaiah the government is on Yahusha's shoulders; he doesn't need a baby-sitter (vicar). In fact Yaaqub/James Yahusha's brother was the head of the K'hal/Assembly (since Jerusalem was the centre of all spiritual activity for Yshral). Some claim that Shimon the sorcerer is actually the founder of the Catholic Church.

Since: Nov 12

Hamilton, Canada

#404164 Nov 22, 2012
Several things i've learned from studying the Tanakh and Brit Chadashah (The Scriptures: 1st and 2nd Testaments), the book "From Babylon to Timbuktu", Ancient Writers, Josephus, "The Book of Yasher/Jasher" and Apocrypha (suppressed by protestants and Catholics alike):

..Romans are mixed with Esau's people; not Yaaqob/Yshral; this helped me to understand the need for Kristianay/Christians (pagan converts) to replace the Hebrews which is not commanded by YHUH. In Acts the converts were accepted on faith and eventually would learn because Mosha/Moses is taught every week in their meetings on the 7th/SaturDay.

..The Messiah was and remains the head of the family of Yashral; the aryah/lion of the tribe of Yahuda. He is not a Catholic. He remains a Yahudi, of Yashral, and Hebrew; read Chizun/Revelation. He never worshipped on 1st Day/Sun Day. He rose Saturday evening as the Wave Sheaf Offering (see Lev 23). The empty tomb was not discovered until the next morning; negating Easter/Ishtar which comes from Semiramis, Nimrod, and Tammuz Worship.

..Catholic means universal or global; that's where the illuminated ones got their idea for a new world order.

.."Church" comes from the name of a sorceress: circe. The people of Yahusha's time would be horrified because they recognized themselves as the k'hal/assembly; an ancient Hebrew understanding.

..YHUH, Aluhym does not change; but the Catholic authority has changed the very sayings of the Mighty One which were written in stone by YH's own finger (the Dbar/Word) for Yshral and the world. They have also absorbed pagan festivals not in line with Leviticus 23 and elsewhere which YHUH declares are His set apart times including the original Shabbat from creation: what the pagans call Saturday for Saturn. Those are not Jewish or Yshral's feasts; they are YHUH's appointed times.

..my family is personally acquainted with the harm this church can do (pedophile) and how the church authorities protected the offender by simply shipping him off to some other unsuspecting parish of potential victims; which is why they converted from Catholicism (in the early 1900's) back into the true Faith of their Hebrew fathers and Abraham, Ytsaaq and Yaaqub; the Hebrew Way which i follow.

In my comments i mean no disrespect to the members of that church; but wonder if they have ever taken a critical look at what they have been commanded to do by the Catholic authority compared to scripture? "Teaching for doctrines the commandments of men..." Yahusha was hated by the Yahudi rulers because he revealed their traditions and commandments as simply the arrogant sayings of men.

Personally this is why i belong to no individual church or denomination but am simply being taught by YHUShA's own Ruach/Spirit to know YHUH; to worship YHUH in Ruach/Spirit (tphyla/prayer and conversation) and in Emet/Truth (scripture study); according to Yeremiyahu/Jeremiah 31.33.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#404165 Nov 22, 2012
Live Action wrote:
<quoted text>all i know is he is a full blown idiot.
"Nice talk" from a "so-called" Christian!!!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404166 Nov 22, 2012
1. "One True" Churches Claim to be the Only One

http://www.theholdemans.com/Compare.htm

One true church

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_true_church

Does Jesus Want One Church Today or Many?

http://www.gospelway.com/church/unique_church...

Since: Nov 12

Hamilton, Canada

#404167 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, as Christians,we enter into His rest with Him.
it makes no difference as to whether we consider Sunday as the 1st day or the 8th(I have heard of that before). the fact remains that His work was totally finished on Sunday. His death is very important to us but His Resurection is what puts Him above any other important person that has ever lived.
if he only died, then His work was uncompleted, we need that Resurection, to complete the Mission and work that His father gave Him
Tell me, was Messiah lying when he said he would be in the earth 3 days? By your reckoning of him dying on Good Friday he was only 1 1/2 days in the tomb. That's not a miracle, that's being unconscious. 3 days is the miracle since in that warm climate by that time his body would have begun to decay.

Unfortunately, the two of you come across as closet Catholics; since the Catholic church is the only religious authority who can claim to have changed the day of rest from the 7th/Saturday to the 1st/Sun Day. You both realize that the 1st Day/Sun Day is dedicated to Mithra right? And Easter/Ishtar is based on Semiramis, Nimrod, and Tammuz worship. My family are former Catholics.

And Yahusha died in the middle of the week (there were two Shabbats, Passover beginning Wednesday evening--nightfall--Roman time and the weekly 7th Day); and Yahusha rose on what the Roman time system calls Saturday evening. Yahusha was fulfilling the requirement of YHUH's Set Apart Times (Lev 23) as the Wave Sheaf Offering. Why do you think the Catholics call it H-ly Thursday, Good Friday and leave out the Sabbath (that's their competition)?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#404168 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
with this post, you can se why the sda cultist doesnt like me.lol
Seventh-day Adventists Falsely Claim They are the Only True Church
The key to the preceding quote I gave you is question #13, which mandates that a person joining the SDA Church MUST (without exception) believe that “the Seventh-day Adventist Church is the remnant church of Bible prophecy.” This means that all other religions, including Baptist and Presbyterian, are viewed as being of the Devil by SDAs. SDAs arrogantly, and sinfully, teach that their organization is the only True Church, and that everyone else is following the Devil.
I can proudly say that I am a Baptist; but there’s no such thing as “The Baptist Church.” Jesus never founded a “Baptist Church.” Jesus is the foundation of the Church, period (1st Corinthians 3:11). Thus, there are numerous denominations which teach the Word of God faithfully concerning the plan of salvation. The mighty evangelist, Billy Sunday, was a Presbyterian minister. The mighty pastor, Dwight Moody, was a Baptist. Many godly pastors are non-denominational. They are all a part of the Body of Christ. For any religious group, such as the SDAs or Jehovah’s Witnesses to claim that they are the only True Church is unbiblical and a false teaching.
Interesting, from looking at the “Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists”(outlined on pages 7-17 in the SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH MANUAL), Baptists and SDAs align almost identically doctrinally concerning the Godhead, the Deity of Jesus Christ, Jesus’ Shed Blood, the Virgin Birth, et cetera. In fact, some writers such as Walter Martin have made the fatal mistake of identifying the SDAs as a Christian cult. My friend, there is NO such thing as a “Christian cult.” SDA is a demonic cult, as you will learn in the next section.
You are a truly screwed freakshow. I worry about the people around you, as you are insane.
preston

Waverly, OH

#404169 Nov 22, 2012
passinby wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me, was Messiah lying when he said he would be in the earth 3 days? By your reckoning of him dying on Good Friday he was only 1 1/2 days in the tomb. That's not a miracle, that's being unconscious. 3 days is the miracle since in that warm climate by that time his body would have begun to decay.
Unfortunately, the two of you come across as closet Catholics; since the Catholic church is the only religious authority who can claim to have changed the day of rest from the 7th/Saturday to the 1st/Sun Day. You both realize that the 1st Day/Sun Day is dedicated to Mithra right? And Easter/Ishtar is based on Semiramis, Nimrod, and Tammuz worship. My family are former Catholics.
And Yahusha died in the middle of the week (there were two Shabbats, Passover beginning Wednesday evening--nightfall--Roman time and the weekly 7th Day); and Yahusha rose on what the Roman time system calls Saturday evening. Yahusha was fulfilling the requirement of YHUH's Set Apart Times (Lev 23) as the Wave Sheaf Offering. Why do you think the Catholics call it H-ly Thursday, Good Friday and leave out the Sabbath (that's their competition)?
what ever you want, but I dont remember ever saying that it was on a Friday, but if you insist, you can choose the day, k?

but to help you out. you do need to know just how the Israelites chose to list their days and their hours..etc.
preston

Waverly, OH

#404170 Nov 22, 2012
TJ Monk wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a truly screwed freakshow. I worry about the people around you, as you are insane.
your presence is wanted on the gay/lesbian forum.

dont keep your friend waiting.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#404171 Nov 22, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You see what you wanna see.. And people get a thrill off Apocalyptic talk.
When I was a kid (in Catholic school) my friends and I would read Revelation all the time. We would bring it down to the lunch room and go over that stuff. Then, we'd compare it to the Metallica and Slayer songs we were listening to. Like "The Four Horsemen"
It was a cheap thrill.
You risk your soul adding things to Revelation. You're only fooling yourself if you think your justified teaching what you think the Angel told John.
Clay!!--Always enjoy your comments!! A happy and blessed Thanksgiving to you and your family!! We (my family and I) will remember you at Daily Mass!!

Since: Nov 12

Hamilton, Canada

#404172 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>what ever you want, but I dont remember ever saying that it was on a Friday, but if you insist, you can choose the day, k?
but to help you out. you do need to know just how the Israelites chose to list their days and their hours..etc.
It is not my words but the Dbar/Word of Aluhaym that matters and to which i defer. I don't believe that rebelling by doing away with Torah is the way to establish it. Our Saviour said not one Yud or one stroke would be changed from the YHUH's Torah (what Kristianay/Christians call "Law") until all be fulfilled. That fulfillment did not come with his resurrection since the fall feasts have not been fulfilled yet (Lev 23). We are not tabernacling with him in a physical sense yet either which is a requirement of the fulfillment of his word.

You and Robert F (?) were discussing a new creation. I haven't seen the sky split yet; have you? Sure we are being restored in the Ruach/spiritually but we are not the shalwm/completed new creation yet until our bodies change to be like Yahusha's. All of YHUH's words must be fulfilled for Him to be truthful and righteous as he is.

The entering YH's rest was Paul's way of letting the Hebrews know that belief in Yahusha was based on Torah; my forefathers were rebellious in the wilderness and never entered YH's rest as a result. In other words we have to emulate his action of resting on the 7th as he did from the very beginning. He never changed the day. My family's former churches did. My relative was a Yshralite hiding out as a Baptist until he learned about the Shabbat.'Course he could have become a 7th day Baptist; but i don't think he knew about that particular denomination.

Don't you know that the scriptures from Brshyt/Genesis onward (including Hanwkh/Enoch, Apocrypha, Josephus, and Jasher mentioned in Yahusha/Joshua to name a few) says evening and morning make the day? Tryin' to test me or something? It's written in black and white. Perhaps you think that justifies Easter/Ishtar? Nope. It fulfills the wave sheaf offering on the first day of the week (not a regular rest day or indicating a change in observing Sun Day as the Shabbat) to fulfill a requirement of Lev 23. But keep on with what appears to be closet Catholic you. My eyes and those of many others have been opened by the grace of Yahusha. You can go back to sleep if you want; but you do it at your own soul's peril.
preston

Waverly, OH

#404174 Nov 22, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay!!--Always enjoy your comments!! A happy and blessed Thanksgiving to you and your family!! We (my family and I) will remember you at Daily Mass!!
good night.

it has been so refreshing since confint and his wife have nor graced us with their presence.

when i was looking for that post by orville, i saw many posts from LTM to you.

she is one weird woman.
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#404175 Nov 22, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
preston
I kind of disagree with you here. It is our sense of "weekend", which is the problem.
On Good Friday, Jesus declared, It is finished. Yes....This is the 6th day of creation.
On Holy Saturday, he was dead, and buried....The work was finished. It was a time of rest in a sense, for the old creation....The seventh day....
On Resurrection Sunday, he was resurrected, and the new creation began. And this was of bodily form.
The problem is our secularization of the "weekend". Actually Saturday is the 7th day. And Sunday is either the 8th day, or the 1st day of a new week. This is what we are a part of, the New Creation, and it is perpetual....
But as you say he entered back into his rest. And we also when we become Christians enter it also....

For you Robert with your reasoning explained.

"Let no man judge you in meat and drink, or in respect of a festival day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbaths."

Article on Sabbath contained.

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologeti...

http://www.catholicdoors.com/misc/apologetics...

Since: Nov 12

Hamilton, Canada

#404176 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>your presence is wanted on the gay/lesbian forum.
dont keep your friend waiting.
So this is your Christian way of attempting to save souls?

wow. just wow.

When i talk to gays and lesbians they know where i stand but it's not offensive.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#404177 Nov 22, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Relationship with Christ is a relationship of LOVE...
Amen...So true

Since: Nov 12

Hamilton, Canada

#404178 Nov 22, 2012
@Dust Storm

...When Paul writes let no man judge you... etc in the KJV you'll notice italics (which are inserted words to help the meaning along; only this time they were inserted to mislead).

Paul is telling the new Hebrews not to let their pagan associates judge or condemn them but to rely on the Body of Mashiach who could guide them appropriately in keeping the set apart times of YHUH (Lev 23).

The Catholics tried to keep people in the dark with their superstitions. Some in my family were well within the hierarchy and know what was done to keep the people ignorant. Including putting people to death for reading the KJV without Catholic authority say-so.

Plucking grain to satisfy hunger on Shabbat or saving an animal is not breaking it; since Shabbat is all about mercy; bringing rest to a hungry person or distressed animal is a righteous thing to do; the Pharisees (precursors of the Talmud) were the ones who were bent out of shape. The lack of compassion is what Yahusha was addressing; not breaking the Shabbat. They didn't gather grain for later or for gain which would have been a transgression; just to satisfy their immediate hunger.

Look for excuses or nitpick all you want; Yahusha never kept Sun Day nor sanctified it for regular rest. When He arose Saturday evening He was fulfilling his role as part of the best of the first fruits of believers (the wave sheaf offering) since he is the Rosh/head of the body of believers who must be changed to be like him on the last great day.

Nothing will change from the YH's word until every last thing is fulfilled including Shatan being destroyed and earth being renewed. That has not happened yet.

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