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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 682009 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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preston

Athens, OH

#403327 Nov 18, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>Regina??
I can't get on your link on face book?
copy it and paste it on your browser. it looks like a gigantic yard sale.and it is really cool
preston

Athens, OH

#403328 Nov 18, 2012
4GVN wrote:
QUOTE who="preston" <quoted text> it just means that man, nor the devil can take their souls from Jesus.
SEE,.
I agreed with that verse, no man nor the devil can take a soul away from Jesus, neither are strong enough to take from God.

however in that equation you lose your focus on one thing.

that man or woman can take themself away from God.just as demas did.
ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#403329 Nov 18, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>Regina??
I can't get on your link on face book?
Hi, Clay! The link works okay on this end; it should take you to a picture with caption. I'm not on Facebook, but found this on the page of "A Place at the Table: A Thanksgiving Table Share":

https://www.facebook.com/tablesharing

If you scroll down, you'll see the picture I posted.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#403330 Nov 18, 2012
who="LTM" Some understand praying in tongues to be a “secret code language” that prevents Satan and his demons from understanding our prayers and thereby gaining an advantage over us. This interpretation is unbiblical for the following reasons: 1) The New Testament consistently describes tongues as a human language. It is unlikely that Satan and his demons are unable to understand human languages. 2) The Bible records countless believers praying in their own language, out loud, with no concern of Satan intercepting the prayer. Even if Satan and/or his demons hear and understand the prayers we pray, they have absolutely no power to prevent God from answering the prayers according to His will. We know that God hears our prayers, and that fact makes it irrelevant whether Satan and his demons hear and understand our prayers.
Acts chapter 2 describes the first occurrence of the gift of tongues. On the day of Pentecost, the apostles spoke in tongues. Acts chapter 2 makes it clear that the apostles were speaking in a human language (Acts 2:6-8). The word translated “tongues” in both Acts chapter 2 and 1 Corinthians chapter 14 is glossa which means “language.” It is the word from which we get our modern English word “glossary.” Speaking in tongues was the ability to speak in a language the speaker does not know, in order to communicate the gospel to someone who does speak that language. In the multicultural area of Corinth, it seems that the gift of tongues was especially valuable and prominent. The Corinthians believers were able to better communicate the gospel and God’s Word as a result of the gift of tongues. However, Paul made it abundantly clear that even in this usage of tongues, it was to be interpreted or “translated”(1 Corinthians 14:13, 27). A Corinthian believer would speak in tongues, proclaiming God’s truth to someone who spoke that language, and then that believer, or another believer in the church, was to interpret what was spoken so that the entire assembly could understand what was said.
gotquestions.com

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There is a difference in 'praying in the Spirit'(which Paul says he will do, though he does not understand what he says), and a Holy Ghost message to the church. Many people may be praying in the Spirit, and as their prayer may be personal, it is not necessary to interpret. They speak to God.

When a message is given to the church, it is plain to all that the speaker is addressing the body. This is to be interpreted, and he tells us to pray for the interpretation.(If it be a known language, why should I have to pray for its meaning?) I have witnessed whole congregations falling silent (even babies) when a message of this sort is given. He instructs that no more than three messages of this sort are to be given without an interpretation. Point being that if the Holy Spirit wishes to address the body, it would be rude to continue without seeking the interpretation.

Fifty years ago such manifestations were common. We do not see as much today because we are not 'tarrying' in prayer as they did in the Upper Room. All great revivals of history were a result of people gathering in prayer until they were "endued with power" as Jesus instructed.

KayMarie

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#403331 Nov 18, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi, Karen! Thank you for worrying, it means a lot to me.(That didn't come out right, but you know what I mean, lol.) Did you click on the link? That's just one example of what people are doing. Things are very bad for so many here. People are still walking around in a daze. The woman who hosts "A Place at the Table" is trying to match up the displaced and out-of-state workers with those willing to welcome them into their homes for Thanksgiving dinner.
That's wonderful Regina.

I pray that things get better real soon for all.

When things like that happen,we get a new perspective.
Little things don't matter like they once did.

I know that happened to me after I lost my son.

I use to worry about little things,
as my Mamaw Partin alway's told me;

"Yer borrowin trouble"

After losing my son,the things that I once thougt was important
were not that important to me anymore.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#403332 Nov 18, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>copy it and paste it on your browser. it looks like a gigantic yard sale.and it is really cool
I agree is very cool.
Clay

Denver, CO

#403333 Nov 18, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>This guy is a seven day advertist who believes that every person who goes to church on Sunday is going to hell. now he mocks my description of how I feel about a false preacher but his doctrine condemms all of us to hell.
he has changed id's several times but I feel cetain that I have withstood him and embarressed him so much in the past that he tries his best to antagonize me, but it doesnt work,
the Bible speaks about where false teachers will end up, and also where someone who mocks the 'apple of Gods eye" which is Israel will end up.
as it is written, I shall curse them who curse you.
that is grahams future, not my words or decision. I can state what the Bible says.
anyway, he doesnt care what I say about graham or anyone else. he is just doing the work of his father the devil.
Conservative christians split with graham many years ago as I showed, and I have seen the farce that he presents
I personally like Billy Graham and many other Protestant preachers...(Rick Warren is another)

They are great within the bubble of the theology they accept.
Catholicism is true to the word of God.. In the language and culture of the Apostles time period.
I love that about it. Really.
guest

United States

#403334 Nov 18, 2012
guest wrote:
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Victims of Catholicism say - "The Inquisition was a Roman Catholic tribunal for discovery and punishment of heresy, which was marked by the severity of questioning and punishment and lack of rights afforded to the accused."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/H ...
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YOU say - "Any sins committee by members of the Catholic Church go AGAINST Catholic teachings."
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You know, Clay, when you say that, YOU sound just like the Muslim who says, "Islam is a *peaceful* religion." Which is a pretty ridiculous statement, don't you think?
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To think Muslims (Arabs) learned the art of 'religious warfare' by watching the Catholics in action - they watched for three hundred years! Then they got tired of being slaughtered, Mohammad was born, and now we have believers in Islam who believe much like the Catholic Church did - that it is OK for them to do God's job and execute evildoers. But the thing is, when self righteous religious leaders get busy 'executing' evildoers/heretics, they are especially brutal.
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Now I challenge you to look into THOSE subjects, but I don't think you will. Catholics can't handle the truth and so they must lie. But they mostly lie to themselves.
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Clay wrote:
Actually, Catholics would never deny sins of past Catholics in the Church.
All those members broke the rules of the Catholic Church. Why won't you get that?
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"All those members broke the rules of the Catholic Church. Why won't you get that?"
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Why. won't. you. get. that.?
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I DID, Clay. That's. why. I. left. the. Church.

Catholics "never" deny the sins of "past Catholics" -- but they certainly do a fine job of denying the sins of PRESENT Catholics, don't they? going so far as to protecting pedophile priests by housing them in Vatican City.
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Then again, Catholics 'never' really deny their own sins, either. Do they? No. They don't really have to - because they get this nifty little "get out of hell free" card every time they go to confession.
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How convenient.
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They never deny the sins of "past Catholics" ...and worse yet, they never acknowledge the sins of "present Catholics."
ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#403335 Nov 18, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
That's wonderul Regina.
I love how comunities get together when people are in need.
How did you fare in the storm?
My usbands nephew works for the Powell Valley electric company here and they sent him up that way to help get the power back on.
When you see him, give him a big kiss for all of us!! It was horrible being without power or phone, cold too!

I live "down the shore", very close to the barrier islands. Thank God, I'm just inland enough not to have been affected by flooding from storm surges. But there was a lot of wind damage. The night of the hurricane, I looked out the front door and the sky was lit up with what looked like fireworks...it was transformers exploding. I actually fared pretty well, only minor damage to the house and property. It looks like a mini war zone around here, huge trees are down everywhere, some smashed right through people's homes. The beach communities are devastated. Houses floated right off their foundations. After the flood waters receded, a house was found sitting right in the middle of a major road.

They just started letting residents back on the islands, but only for a few hours at a time and in some places are busing them back and forth. There are lots who were evacuated and now have no place to go, they lost everything. A friend and her husband who live a few miles away have to gut their house. They lost their car, too. The northern counties got hit hard, too, and those in NY are also suffering, especially the Rockaways and Staten Island. Please keep them in your prayers.
Clay

Denver, CO

#403336 Nov 18, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
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<quoted text>
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"All those members broke the rules of the Catholic Church. Why won't you get that?"
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Why. won't. you. get. that.?
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I DID, Clay. That's. why. I. left. the. Church.
Catholics "never" deny the sins of "past Catholics" -- but they certainly do a fine job of denying the sins of PRESENT Catholics, don't they? going so far as to protecting pedophile priests by housing them in Vatican City.
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Then again, Catholics 'never' really deny their own sins, either. Do they? No. They don't really have to - because they get this nifty little "get out of hell free" card every time they go to confession.
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How convenient.
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They never deny the sins of "past Catholics" ...and worse yet, they never acknowledge the sins of "present Catholics."
So what you're really saying is you left catholicism because members of the Church sinned?? Thus..breaking the basic rules of Catholicism????
Wow.
I guess, whatever 'church' you discovered who is without sin, I'd love to join.(maybe)

The Catholic Church is made up of sinners. Always has.. And always will.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#403337 Nov 18, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="marge"
hey Gif, i'm not quibbling but trying to understand, so in the above verse,==>forbid not to speak with tongues.,<== we're still saying that is for the unbeliever, correct?
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Tongues ARE for the unbeliever, but they are also an evidence of the presence of the Holy Spirit to the believer. Peter and other Christians were convinced that God had truly come to the Gentiles when they heard them speak by the Holy Spirit. It greatly increases the faith of the believer when they experience a manifestation of the Holy Spirit.
KayMarie
'but they are also an evidence of the presence of the Holy Spirit to the believer.'

That's the way i see it too Kay Marie, it makes sense and agrees with Scripture.
ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#403338 Nov 18, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>thanks, that is exactly what I was doing. oddjg is the guy with the filthy mouth and now he has turned it on me, like he did to you and karen back in june.
and that is probably why God gave me something to tell her afew minutes ago.
glad and pleased that you are ok.
You're welcome! I figured as much. You're not going to let him bother you, are you? Don't waste your time. Put it in God's hands and move on.

Shhh, just between us, I had a feeling you prayed for me. If you didn't, don't tell me. Just let me live with my illusions. Yes, I'm okay, kind of. Thank you, dear Preston.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#403339 Nov 18, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
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When you see him, give him a big kiss for all of us!! It was horrible being without power or phone, cold too!
I live "down the shore", very close to the barrier islands. Thank God, I'm just inland enough not to have been affected by flooding from storm surges. But there was a lot of wind damage. The night of the hurricane, I looked out the front door and the sky was lit up with what looked like fireworks...it was transformers exploding. I actually fared pretty well, only minor damage to the house and property. It looks like a mini war zone around here, huge trees are down everywhere, some smashed right through people's homes. The beach communities are devastated. Houses floated right off their foundations. After the flood waters receded, a house was found sitting right in the middle of a major road.
They just started letting residents back on the islands, but only for a few hours at a time and in some places are busing them back and forth. There are lots who were evacuated and now have no place to go, they lost everything. A friend and her husband who live a few miles away have to gut their house. They lost their car, too. The northern counties got hit hard, too, and those in NY are also suffering, especially the Rockaways and Staten Island. Please keep them in your prayers.
Oh that sounds awful Regina.
I am really glad you wasn't in the worse part.
I bet you were terrified and did a lot of praying.

I know I would have been.

My thoughts and prayers are with all that had to endure such a horrible storm.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#403340 Nov 18, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
When you see him, give him a big kiss for all of us!! It was horrible being without power or phone, cold too!
I live "down the shore", very close to the barrier islands. Thank God, I'm just inland enough not to have been affected by flooding from storm surges. But there was a lot of wind damage. The night of the hurricane, I looked out the front door and the sky was lit up with what looked like fireworks...it was transformers exploding. I actually fared pretty well, only minor damage to the house and property. It looks like a mini war zone around here, huge trees are down everywhere, some smashed right through people's homes. The beach communities are devastated. Houses floated right off their foundations. After the flood waters receded, a house was found sitting right in the middle of a major road.
They just started letting residents back on the islands, but only for a few hours at a time and in some places are busing them back and forth. There are lots who were evacuated and now have no place to go, they lost everything. A friend and her husband who live a few miles away have to gut their house. They lost their car, too. The northern counties got hit hard, too, and those in NY are also suffering, especially the Rockaways and Staten Island. Please keep them in your prayers.
Regina,did you have any other source of heat?

I bet it was cold up there.
We had a few really cold nights during that time.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403341 Nov 18, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="marge"
hey Gif, i'm not quibbling but trying to understand, so in the above verse,==>forbid not to speak with tongues.,<== we're still saying that is for the unbeliever, correct?
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Tongues ARE for the unbeliever, but they are also an evidence of the presence of the Holy Spirit to the believer. Peter and other Christians were convinced that God had truly come to the Gentiles when they heard them speak by the Holy Spirit. It greatly increases the faith of the believer when they experience a manifestation of the Holy Spirit.
KayMarie
I believe in the GIFT of speaking in tongues and yes it is still for today. Been a witness to woman singing who mid ways in her song the Holy Spirit caame upon her and you could just see the and felll the glory and glowing shine from her face.
I also know Satan has a conterfiet and there are those who would fake it as well. That is why God allows us to discern the spirits.

1> As far as Preston goes I don't think the SDA believe in tongues for today.

2> I do not believe in OSAS as I believe one can Grieve away the Holy Spirit in which we are sealed unto the day of redemtion.

3> I do believe one should be baptised by water as an act of their faith if at all able. However water baptism thatlead one to be saved is his word and by his blood that he shed for us those who believe are baptise in the Fire and Holy Spirit this is what counts.

4> For these denominations with requiremnets to be a member of their Church is man made. Christ said come as you are !!!

Just adding my stand on speaking in tingues and som eof my beliefs for now.

God Bless
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#403342 Nov 18, 2012
BILLY GRAHAM EVANGELISTIC ASSOCIATION STATEMENT OF FAITH

We at the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association believe:

1. the Bible to be the infallible Word of God, that it is His holy and inspired Word, and that it is of supreme and final authority

2. In one God, eternally existing in three
persons – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

3. Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary. He led a sinless life, took on Himself all our sins, died and rose again, and is seated at the right hand of the
Father as our mediator and advocate

4. That all men everywhere are lost and face the judgment of God, and need to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ through His shed blood on the cross

5. That Christ rose from the dead and is coming soon

6. In holy Christian living, and that we must have concern for the hurts and social needs
of our fellow men

7. We must dedicate ourselves anew to the service of our Lord and to His authority over our
lives

8. In using every effective means of communication available to us to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ throughout the world.
4GVN

Saint Louis, MO

#403343 Nov 18, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I agreed with that verse, no man nor the devil can take a soul away from Jesus, neither are strong enough to take from God.
however in that equation you lose your focus on one thing.
that man or woman can take themself away from God.just as demas did.
So in typical fashion you state that 1. NO MAN can take a soul away from Jesus. AND 2. A MAN CAN take his soul away from Jesus. More jibber jabber from the thread clown.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403344 Nov 18, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree.
I could never wish someone to hell.
There is no love in that.
It sends the wrong message to ones who don't know the Lord.
It sets a bad example.
I have never known a deacon that wished someone to hell.
What to you think about someone who claims to be a pastor wishing God to find a place for another pastor to be there ?

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Truth wrote:

<quoted text>
And, why would we care what Billy Graham has to say....
He is another false teacher...so you think it is fine to follow a false teacher....come on now...

Preston wrote:

lol, I just got home and the phone rang and it was a telemarketer who had a three question survey that they wanted me to answer.
and the first qustion was about billy graham and what he thought about something and did I agree or disagree, well of course since I cant stand Billy Graham, I hit that I disagreed with him and as soon as I did that, they hung up and I never got to hear the other two questions.

Now I will miss hours of sleep worrying about those other two questions about billy graham.

graham ought tokeep his nose out of politics and I will never forgive him for the ranting that he did against Israel.

May God find him a nice quite out of the way place in a hot community. where the sun never shines.
4GVN

Saint Louis, MO

#403345 Nov 18, 2012
OldJG wrote:
BILLY GRAHAM EVANGELISTIC ASSOCIATION STATEMENT OF FAITH
We at the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association believe:
1. the Bible to be the infallible Word of God, that it is His holy and inspired Word, and that it is of supreme and final authority
2. In one God, eternally existing in three
persons – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
3. Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary. He led a sinless life, took on Himself all our sins, died and rose again, and is seated at the right hand of the
Father as our mediator and advocate
4. That all men everywhere are lost and face the judgment of God, and need to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ through His shed blood on the cross
5. That Christ rose from the dead and is coming soon
6. In holy Christian living, and that we must have concern for the hurts and social needs
of our fellow men
7. We must dedicate ourselves anew to the service of our Lord and to His authority over our
lives
8. In using every effective means of communication available to us to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ throughout the world.
So sad that BILLY GRAHM has been reduced to nothing since he has been judged by PRESTON THE GREAT (wanna be).lol
DANIEL

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