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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 679163 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Orville

Portland, OR

#402934 Nov 17, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
You wrote
Then how come every analysis of supposed 'speaking in tongues' proves its not a language.
Since when is it... that God has to be subject to the puny analysis of Humanity...
Man what arrogance...
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Your concept of God must be very distorted..


Correctly stated. It is Clay's and other Romans who have the "concept of God" and not the embrace and reality of God.
Orville

Portland, OR

#402935 Nov 17, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Think about it...
Just because God is offering us a free gift, does not mean we have to take it! He isn't exchanging the free gift for free will. We still have a choice ya know.
Someone can give you a brand new car as a free gift. But you could refuse it. Or you can accept it, then later give it back.
The gift of salvation is given along with the gift of free will.



Think about it...free will is not a gift anymore than a box I present to you is a gift. Free will is inherent. A part of being human. But the box is only a gift if you accept it as a gift.
preston

Athens, OH

#402936 Nov 17, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Another failed diversion.
no diversion, and it certainly doesnt fail. it shows a total lack of morality on your part.

preston wrote:
<quoted text>when you came on line and said that you needed help and your church refused to help you
I WAS THE FIRST TO STICK OUT MY HAND AND OFFER ANY HELP OR ASSISTANCE THAT I COULD GIVE YOU AND I MEANT IT.
this is how you repay my generosity and kindness?

and some day it will up and bite you, and according to you, you aint got that long.

UNLESS YOU ARE LYING ABOUT THAT.TOO
preston

Athens, OH

#402937 Nov 17, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>I am going to use your post to me here to elaborate on some point concerning Billy Graham.
I read the Mea Culpa about Graham's very untimely comments concerning the Jewish people as a whole when discussing with Nixon over a phone or whatever.His conversation was taped,and voila the whole world knows about it.
Well I can't cover up for Graham,but he still is a man of God,and he still preaches the gospel with an anointing even in his old age. Cont.
you still dont get it do you, yes there are afew Jewish people that produce porn but so do other people and other nations. so that is not the issue, and I fail to see why YOU cant see that.there must be accountablility for those who are Ministers.

I can see the rage that would be given to me if I said something displeasing on this forum.

the man billy graham said something against the apple of God s eye. that is a sin against God Himself.

then he lied and said he knew nothing about that story, and this lie laid on the stove until the sins of Nixon brought this lie again to the forefront(BE SURE YOUR SINS WILL FIND YOU OUT, THAT IS BIBLE PAD).then he knew that his lie had been brought to the surface and tehr was no place for him to back up.

He sinned agaisnt God, PAD, against God, THEN HE LIED ABOUT IT.

No minister of Gods would ever take that chance to say something about the children of Abraham.

for it is written, "I SHALL CURSE THEM WHO CURSE YOU".And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

NOW YOU OR ANYONE THAT DOESNT LIKE ME CAN DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT WHAT I STATED IS THE TRUTH AND IN THE END, graham WILL GET WHAT HE SO RICHLY DESERVES.just as many of you THINK that this will happen to me.

But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

try and quit shooting your mouth off against me and then, maybe, just maybe, you night learn something.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#402938 Nov 17, 2012
who="orville"
Siding with the Romans again eh Wiley-preston?
Less the Romans, you have condemed every person in this thread who witnessed of Holy God.
GIF, FOL, JAC, Truth, 4GVN, Confrit, myself, and Old G.
Such a coincidence.
Your a Roman.

**********

There are 'closet Romans'?:)

KayMarie
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#402939 Nov 17, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Thought you weren't suppose to answer any of his posts...
Maybe he though Persy's FUEL was getting low.

Don't sweat the small stuff youe fuel may run out to.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#402940 Nov 17, 2012
Orville: no diversion, and it certainly doesnt fail. it shows a total lack of morality on your part.

preston wrote:
<quoted text>when you came on line and said that you needed help and your church refused to help you
I WAS THE FIRST TO STICK OUT MY HAND AND OFFER ANY HELP OR ASSISTANCE THAT I COULD GIVE YOU AND I MEANT IT.
this is how you repay my generosity and kindness?
and some day it will up and bite you, and according to you, you aint got that long.
UNLESS YOU ARE LYING ABOUT THAT.TOO

**********Can anyone imagine such cruelty? From some one who professes Christianity? Orville is in very serious condition; who would even think to mock his condition? One can disagree without BEING disagreeable...

KayMarie
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#402941 Nov 17, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Parrot talk again.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =K7ht0a2-OnAXX
The TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church needs to be "parroted" over and over and over again to anti-catholic "half-truth, half-heretical Protestants like you, confrinting, 4GVN, justachristian1, OLDJG and the rest of you bible only "buffoons" until it just MIGHT--POSSIBLY--MIRACULOUSLY
"sink in". This is "only" possibly until you come to TRUE SALVATION in Jesus Christ as a TRUE CHRISTIAN in the fullness of the FAITH in and through His One True Catholic Church.
Michael

Canada

#402942 Nov 17, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Romney would have repealed Obamacare. Obamas care, forces Catholic institutions to provide contraceptives and abortion related drugs to Catholic employees.
This is government crossing the line and imposing THEIR will on the people. Its fascism.
Obama and his cohorts disagree on the Catholic Churchs position on contraceptives and abortion. They see that many Catholics in America use contraceptives, so they have no problem forcing the Church to comply with what THEY view as truth. Its pathetic.
Btw, what the hell do you care what happens is America?
CLAY says........This is government crossing the line and imposing THEIR will on the people.

No they are not. They are giving people choices. People buy contraceptives because they want to not because they have to. Woman have abortions because they have the right to not because they have to.

Did you know that the VAST MAJORITY of roman catholics have or use forms of birth control the church says is sinful?

Did you know that more catholic women per 1,000 women in america have abortions than non catholic women?

The church might speak, but most catholics today do not listen, because they have CHOICES.

I myself am pro-life.



Orville

Portland, OR

#402943 Nov 17, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>no diversion, and it certainly doesnt fail. it shows a total lack of morality on your part.
preston wrote:
<quoted text>when you came on line and said that you needed help and your church refused to help you
I WAS THE FIRST TO STICK OUT MY HAND AND OFFER ANY HELP OR ASSISTANCE THAT I COULD GIVE YOU AND I MEANT IT.
this is how you repay my generosity and kindness?
and some day it will up and bite you, and according to you, you aint got that long.
UNLESS YOU ARE LYING ABOUT THAT.TOO




“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#402944 Nov 17, 2012
who="Clay"
...
Orville, all you got is YOUR interpretations of the writings the Catholic Church declared as inspired!
That's it.
...
What's really odd is that Catholics view other people who profess Jesus as the Christ, as our brothers. In return, you guys condemn us to hell. And you do this by completely, deliberately, and BOLDLY submitting to ignorance, deceit and lies.
If you want proof of this, just ask me. I gotta run, but I'll break it down for you Ore.

**********

Clay...you misunderstand. The Catholics on this forum have not welcomed Protestants as Christians. They declare quite the contrary.

We (I) do not condemn you to hell, but sure would like to show you that it is the Catholic VIEW of the Bible that they profess to have given to the world. If the CC gave it, they should uphold it, and encourage others to do so. They should adjust their position to agree with what the Bible says, OR admit that they presented an imperfect document.(That wouldn't hurt us, of course...we know that it is true. IT WORKS.)

KayMarie

KayMarie
Michael

Canada

#402945 Nov 17, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes--and it is with "you" Michael---"THAT" is what is terribly wrong!...... The only person who cares about (micro-managing) the "exact date, exact location or the precise minute" (or maybe you prefer to break it down in "seconds") has lost the (entire concept and purpose) of what (Jesus) and the Christian life is all about.
If all you want to do is to "know about Jesus" instead of "KNOWING JESUS" --in the bible, and PROVEN Church History which is CONFIRMED in through His One True Catholic Church---------you can be assured that you will NEVER find answers to all of your interesting (but "frivolous--and meaningless (micro-aged) questions that don't really matter!!
HOJO says......

The only person who cares about (micro-managing) the "exact date, exact location or the precise minute" (or maybe you prefer to break it down in "seconds") has lost the (entire concept and purpose) of what (Jesus) and the Christian life is all about.
If all you want to do is to "know about Jesus" instead of "KNOWING JESUS" --in the bible.

There is nothing in the bible that gives any bio information about a miracle man named Jesus.

How can catholics claim this man to be the greatest man that ever lived and you know nothing in a personal nature about him?

something is wrong HOJO!
Michael

Canada

#402946 Nov 17, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes--and it is with "you" Michael---"THAT" is what is terribly wrong!...... The only person who cares about (micro-managing) the "exact date, exact location or the precise minute" (or maybe you prefer to break it down in "seconds") has lost the (entire concept and purpose) of what (Jesus) and the Christian life is all about.
If all you want to do is to "know about Jesus" instead of "KNOWING JESUS" --in the bible, and PROVEN Church History which is CONFIRMED in through His One True Catholic Church---------you can be assured that you will NEVER find answers to all of your interesting (but "frivolous--and meaningless (micro-aged) questions that don't really matter!!
Do you honestly believe God, hundreds of saints, and the souls of dead mankind, are sitting somewhere on puffy white clouds strumming harps and smiling as they look down at tiny spec earth watching every move you make, and counting every sparrow and Raccoon that dies?

If that is what your future is going to be like doesn't sound like fun to me.(lol)

Something is wrong HOJO! Terribly wrong!
Live Action

Oklahoma City, OK

#402947 Nov 17, 2012
May Yahweh 613.
Orville

Portland, OR

#402948 Nov 17, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>you still dont get it do you, yes there are afew Jewish people that produce porn but so do other people and other nations. so that is not the issue, and I fail to see why YOU cant see that.there must be accountablility for those who are Ministers.
I can see the rage that would be given to me if I said something displeasing on this forum.
the man billy graham said something against the apple of God s eye. that is a sin against God Himself.
then he lied and said he knew nothing about that story, and this lie laid on the stove until the sins of Nixon brought this lie again to the forefront(BE SURE YOUR SINS WILL FIND YOU OUT, THAT IS BIBLE PAD).then he knew that his lie had been brought to the surface and tehr was no place for him to back up.
He sinned agaisnt God, PAD, against God, THEN HE LIED ABOUT IT.
No minister of Gods would ever take that chance to say something about the children of Abraham.
for it is written, "I SHALL CURSE THEM WHO CURSE YOU".And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
NOW YOU OR ANYONE THAT DOESNT LIKE ME CAN DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT WHAT I STATED IS THE TRUTH AND IN THE END, graham WILL GET WHAT HE SO RICHLY DESERVES.just as many of you THINK that this will happen to me.
But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
try and quit shooting your mouth off against me and then, maybe, just maybe, you night learn something.



Perhaps we should remove "Jesus" as Lord & Savior, and replace HIM with "Wiley Coyote-Preston".

Because in your mind, your the "man". "Can't touch this" can we "Wiley".


Michael

Canada

#402949 Nov 17, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
God must be a bad communicator, because there is so much disagreement about what the "clear word of God" really means --- and beyond that, the meaning seems to change from era to era.
So-called "perfect teachings" change.
No one knows what is "infallible teaching" and what is not. People can only surmise, because not even the RCC itself is certain.
A true God would do a better job of communicating, that's for sure.
Or perhaps, we are simply here for God's amusement and we're all part of a game.
That's one explanation.
Early Evolution of mankind feared the thunder in the sky believing God was angry at them.

3,000 years ago egyptian Kings worshipping the stars in the sky as the Gods.

If there is a real God, why did it take him so long to inspire a select few small number of men in just one tiny part of the world to write about him in the TRUE SENSE?

something is terribly wrong!

BUSTED!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#402950 Nov 17, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>That is another rabbit. I would ask you to just hold that thought for now until we have dealt with the passages at hand. I will be willing to address that thought in time, but for now it is not productive. Just see if we can agree on the point at hand, please. I understand that that is what you have been taught, and it is a point that will need to be addressed, but for us to reach a mutual agreement, we must take passages and doctrines one at a time or we can be jumping all over the bible with 'dueling verses'.
Agreed. Dualing bible verses is not helpful. The first thing I would ask you to consider is that the Catholic Church's baptismal doctrine can indeed be supported by the bible. You may disagree with our interpretation of said passages, by nonetheless, in order for us to have a productive conversation you need to at least admit it. The next topic could be who has the authority to interpret these passages. The ball is in your court.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#402951 Nov 17, 2012
About Billy Graham...

God's promise to Abraham was that his descendants would bless all the families of the earth. True to His promise, the Jews are Masters of finance. They do bless all nations of the earth in matters of finance, health and other things.

Germany and other nations hated the Jews because they were jealous of their financial holdings, not realizing that they themselves were enriched by them.

But Jews are 'dull of hearing'; they rejected the gospel, even as Paul did, and continue to resist it and its inherent's. Thus they are like Paul was when he persecuted the Christians. Multitudes of them have sided with communism, because they see it as opposed to Christianity. They have furthered the cause of Communism/the left in the hope of defeating those Jesus followers.

This was what Billy Graham was attempting to explain to Nixon. Billy Graham perhaps did not understand this picture, or know how to express it...or have time in his limited interview to clarify it.

Now we know...and WE are not to judge the Jews OR Billy Graham. The Jews will pay for their lack of faith; ever read of The Troubles of Jacob? The Bible declares that it will be the worst time they have ever known. But it also declares that "they (Jews) will look upon Him Whom they have pierced, and mourn for Him as one mourns for an only son." When they see Him return, they will be moved for Him. They will BELIEVE.

God is merciful to us all...and exhorts us to BE merciful to one another. Pray for the Jews. Pray for Billy Graham. Pray for all who declare themselves 'Christian'. God commands it.

KayMarie
Orville

Portland, OR

#402952 Nov 17, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>no diversion, and it certainly doesnt fail. it shows a total lack of morality on your part.
preston wrote:
<quoted text>when you came on line and said that you needed help and your church refused to help you
I WAS THE FIRST TO STICK OUT MY HAND AND OFFER ANY HELP OR ASSISTANCE THAT I COULD GIVE YOU AND I MEANT IT.
this is how you repay my generosity and kindness?
and some day it will up and bite you, and according to you, you aint got that long.
UNLESS YOU ARE LYING ABOUT THAT.TOO


Didn't work. Again, "Wiley-Preston". Get over it.....

7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#402953 Nov 17, 2012
orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Wiley. Your consorting with your Roman friends again....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =YIPr23xyoZgXX&feature=rel ated
They spoon feed him enough to stroke his EGO and then laugh at him behind his back and he is to stupid to realize it.

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